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26th Jun '16 12:47:39 AM BoxerAndCrewSocks
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** Team Rocket is also subject to several of their humorous quirks stemming from tragic backstories. Jessie's vanity and desire to lead the group is due to the fact that her mother was an operative that went missing, presumed dead on a mission and was subsequently shuttled around in foster care before enlisting herself. James' goofy persona and cowardice were the result of him running away from home to avoid the pressures of his aristocratic upbringing and a controlling fiancé. Meowth's desire to be "top cat" instead of Giovanni's Persian came from the fact that he scrounged for food under the tutelage of a Persian in Hollywood. Furthermore, his walking upright and human speech were to impress a rich Meowth that didn't appreciate what he did.


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** The film also reveals that Randal Boggs' competitive nature and antagonism stemmed from fraternity hazing and bullying; leading to his StartOfDarkness.


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** The sequel also turns several of her personality quirks from the original film (such as the "just keep swimming" RunningGag) and has them PlayedForDrama as a result of ParentalAbandonment.


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** Han Solo's ArbitrarySkepticism towards the Force and Obi-Wan in ''A New Hope'' take on new meaning after ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', where he goes through a similar pattern of a mentor that lost someone he cared for to the Dark Side [[spoiler: to the point of dying at the hands of Kylo Ren; who was once Ben Solo before he was corrupted by Supreme Leader Snoke]].
25th Jun '16 5:36:45 PM BustlingKoala
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** It becomes even worse in ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'', where it's revealed that her memory problems caused her to lose her family, that she outright catches anxiety when faced with throught that she will be left all alone, with nobody to help her, that even her parents were worried about her future and so much more...
20th Jun '16 1:09:57 PM TheMightyHeptagon
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* In most versions of ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'', the Turtles' famous color-coded ninja headbands are one of the most unabashedly goofy elements of the Turtles' design. Even when the franchise is at its [[DarkerAndEdgier Darkest and Edgiest]], there's something inherently silly about seeing four giant turtles walking around a crowded city wearing nothing but tiny cloth scarves around their heads. But in [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesIDW the IDW comic book series]], Peter Laird explores the idea that the Turtles weren't just randomly mutated by ooze, but are actually {{reincarnation}}s of Hamato Yoshi's four biological children who were murdered by Oroku Saki. When they were alive, Yoshi's sons always wore red, blue, purple and orange, respectively; as the Turtles, they still wear those colors as a marker of their previous lives, even if they don't understand why.
11th Jun '16 3:09:32 AM Dravencour
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** The Sailor V manga however DID include the joke, it's pointed out a a couple of times she's had a couple dozen crushes she's called "her first love"

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** The Sailor V manga however DID include the joke, it's pointed out a a couple of times [[SerialRomeo she's had a couple dozen crushes she's called "her first love"love"]].
11th Jun '16 3:07:33 AM Dravencour
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* ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', Goku's tail is revealed to indicate he is actually a Saiyan rather than just a boy with a tail. His kindly nature is also revealed to be the result of brain damage; if he'd never injured his head, Goku would have grown up to be a BloodKnight. Or a more sociopathic one than he already is.

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* ''Anime/DragonBallZ'', Goku's tail is revealed to indicate he is actually a Saiyan rather than just a boy with a tail.tail, and the giant were-ape form he turns into on a full moon is revealed to be a trait of all Saiyans that he never learned to fully control. His kindly nature is also revealed to be the result of brain damage; if he'd never injured his head, Goku would have grown up to be a BloodKnight. Or a more sociopathic one than he already is.
6th Jun '16 5:48:06 AM ChronoLegion
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** Episode 2-4 of Season 14 turned the entire first season on its head. [[spoiler:Agent Florida himself picked out the Blood Gulch team, Sarge is so lost in his PatrioticFervor that he murders his CO in cold blood thinking he was a Blue in disguise and we find out the identity of the Alpha AI host - Private Jimmy, the guy who was said to have been beaten to death with his own skull by Tex. Even more, Caboose, Donut and Sister was never meant to go to Blood Gulch!]]

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** Episode 2-4 of Season 14 turned the entire first season on its head. [[spoiler:Agent Florida himself picked out the Blood Gulch team, Sarge is so lost in his PatrioticFervor that he murders his CO in cold blood thinking he was a Blue in disguise (while Florida [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness simply watches]]) and we find out the identity of the Alpha AI host - Private Jimmy, the guy who was said to have been beaten to death with his own skull by Tex. Church's memory of that is a strange mix of Alpha's and Jimmy's memories. Even more, Caboose, Donut and Sister was were never meant to go to Blood Gulch!]]Gulch! Vic's eccentric personality is a computer glitch, caused by Flowers/Florida tripping on a power cable, as the AI was much more business-like before.]]
1st Jun '16 7:54:25 AM Willbyr
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** ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' becomes this to the KamenRider franchise as a whole. [[spoiler:As it turns out, almost all of the [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monsters of the Week]] were humans that ate the fruits from Helheim Forest. Unlike the past human turned monsters from other Kamen Rider shows, save for KamenRiderWizard, they can't be saved (though it becomes all the more darker that it's revealed that they can be saved). It becomes worse when the Beat Riders are eventually blamed by the public for all monster attacks occurring in the city.]] Considering that Creator/GenUrobuchi is the head writer, many saw something like this coming.

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** ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' becomes this to the KamenRider Franchise/KamenRider franchise as a whole. [[spoiler:As it turns out, almost all of the [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monsters of the Week]] were humans that ate the fruits from Helheim Forest. Unlike the past human turned monsters from other Kamen Rider shows, save for KamenRiderWizard, they can't be saved (though it becomes all the more darker that it's revealed that they can be saved). It becomes worse when the Beat Riders are eventually blamed by the public for all monster attacks occurring in the city.]] Considering that Creator/GenUrobuchi is the head writer, many saw something like this coming.



** It's played absurdly straight in the "Coon and Friends" saga. Kenny, [[spoiler:who is revealed to be the real Mysterion]], has stated that his [[BlessedWithSuck superpower]] is that he cannot die, and that even when he does die, no-one ever remembers it happening to him (itself a bit of a RetCon, since they sometimes did in the early seasons). He hates it so much that his near-HeroicSacrifice at the end comes off like [[DeathSeeker a desperate attempt to die for real]]. One might even see it as a {{Deconstruction}} of NegativeContinuity. Also, this ability apparently comes from his parents having been involved with the Cult of {{Cthulhu}}.

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** It's played absurdly straight in the "Coon and Friends" saga. Kenny, [[spoiler:who is revealed to be the real Mysterion]], has stated that his [[BlessedWithSuck superpower]] is that he cannot die, and that even when he does die, no-one ever remembers it happening to him (itself a bit of a RetCon, since they sometimes did in the early seasons). He hates it so much that his near-HeroicSacrifice at the end comes off like [[DeathSeeker a desperate attempt to die for real]]. One might even see it as a {{Deconstruction}} of NegativeContinuity. Also, this ability apparently comes from his parents having been involved with the Cult of {{Cthulhu}}.Literature/{{Cthulhu|Mythos}}.
31st May '16 12:26:41 PM Blazer
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** Episode 2-4 of Season 14 turned the entire first season on its head. [[spoiler:Agent Florida himself picked out the Blood Gulch team, Sarge is so lost in his PatrioticFervor that he murders his CO in cold blood thinking he was a Blue in disguise and we find out the identity of the Alpha AI host - Private Jimmy, the guy who was said to have been beaten to death with his own skull by Tex. Even more, Caboose, Donut and Sister was never meant to go to Blood Gulch!]]
28th May '16 2:07:59 PM Midna
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** A guy called Senor Pink who dresses up like a baby and rejects all woman around him? Hilarious. A guy called Senor Pink who dresses up like a baby [[spoiler:not only because he hopes his late wife will find it funny from heaven as it was the only thing that made her smile when an accident rendered her comatose, but as a tribute to his own infant son who died at a very fragile age]] and rejects all woman around him [[spoiler:because his heart belongs to said late wife]]? TearJerker.

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** A guy called Senor Pink who dresses up like a baby and rejects all woman around him? Hilarious. A guy called Senor Pink who dresses up like a baby [[spoiler:not only because he hopes his late wife will find it funny from heaven as it was the only thing that made her smile when an accident rendered her comatose, but as a tribute to his own infant son who died at a very fragile age]] and rejects all woman around him [[spoiler:because his heart belongs to said late wife]]? TearJerker.Not so funny.



** Another one comes in ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', where Apollo Justice's CatchPhrase of "I'm fine!" is given some clarification. In Apollo's [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney game of origin]], it initially seemed like a nervous habit of Apollo's, since he usually said it when he was... well, nervous. Then ''Dual Destinies'' reveals that [[spoiler: it was a catchphrase shared with his childhood friend, Clay Terran, which they both shouted to cheer themselves up when their spirits were low]]. This, along with [[spoiler: Clay's murder]] turns it from a seemingly nervous habit to TearJerker.

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** Another one comes in In ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies Dual Destinies]]'', where Apollo Justice's CatchPhrase of "I'm fine!" is given some clarification. In Apollo's [[VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney game of origin]], it initially seemed like a nervous habit of Apollo's, since he usually said it when he was... well, nervous. Then ''Dual Destinies'' reveals that [[spoiler: it was a catchphrase shared with his late childhood friend, Clay Terran, which they both shouted to cheer themselves up when their spirits were low]]. This, along with [[spoiler: Clay's murder]] turns it from a seemingly nervous habit to TearJerker.low]].



** "Jerome is the New Black" also had a gag involving Quagmire's sister and her abusive boyfriend, which was played for [[RefugeInAudacity tragic laughs]] (as Brian thought Quagmire's battered sister was just some one-night stand Quagmire had rough sex with). Two seasons later in "Screams of Silence: The Story of Brenda Q.", Quagmire's sister and her abusive boyfriend come back, and the abuse is PlayedForDrama (soul-crushing, brutally realistic, [[{{TearJerker}} tear-jerking drama]]).

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** "Jerome is the New Black" also had a gag involving Quagmire's sister and her abusive boyfriend, which was played for [[RefugeInAudacity tragic laughs]] (as Brian thought Quagmire's battered sister was just some one-night stand Quagmire had rough sex with). Two seasons later in "Screams of Silence: The Story of Brenda Q.", Quagmire's sister and her abusive boyfriend come back, and the abuse is PlayedForDrama (soul-crushing, brutally realistic, [[{{TearJerker}} tear-jerking drama]]).PlayedForDrama.



** The first episode makes Fry's life in the year 2000 seem utterly miserable, so that it's understandable how he celebrates after being unfrozen a millennium later. Since then episodes have gone back and explored his previous life more closely, creating drama as Fry remembers his family, his girlfriend, and, most famously, [[TearJerker his beloved dog]].

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** The first episode makes Fry's life in the year 2000 seem utterly miserable, so that it's understandable how he celebrates after being unfrozen a millennium later. Since then episodes have gone back and explored his previous life more closely, creating drama as Fry remembers his family, his girlfriend, and, most famously, [[TearJerker his beloved dog]].dog.
27th May '16 9:13:13 AM Cintari
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* In ''Series/GameOfThrones'', Hodor has consistently been portrayed as a hulking simpleton with childlike intelligence, and his GentleGiant persona has always been used for comic relief--as has the fact that [[PokemonSpeak he can only say his own name]]. The books and the TV show had long cryptically hinted that there was ''something'' more to Hodor than the Starks suspected, with the eventual revelation that his birth name was actually "Walder" ([[AdaptationNameChange "Willis" in the show]]). Then come the events of the WhamEpisode "The Door". It turns out that Hodor was once of perfectly normal intelligence, but suffered a massive seizure when [[spoiler: Bran [[MentalTimeTravel seized control of his younger self's mind]], inadvertently splitting his mind between two time periods]]. He can only say the word "Hodor" because [[spoiler: he heard Meera Reed shouting ''"Hold the door!"'' when he glimpsed into the future]].

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* In ''Series/GameOfThrones'', Hodor has consistently been portrayed as a hulking simpleton with childlike intelligence, and his GentleGiant persona has always been used for comic relief--as has the fact that [[PokemonSpeak he can only say his own name]]. The books and the TV show had long cryptically hinted that there was ''something'' more to Hodor than the Starks suspected, with the eventual revelation that his birth name was actually "Walder" ([[AdaptationNameChange "Willis" "Wylis" in the show]]). Then come the events of the WhamEpisode "The Door". It turns out that Hodor was once of perfectly normal intelligence, but suffered a massive seizure when [[spoiler: Bran [[MentalTimeTravel seized control of his younger self's mind]], inadvertently splitting his mind between two time periods]]. He can only say the word "Hodor" because [[spoiler: he heard Meera Reed shouting ''"Hold the door!"'' when he glimpsed into the future]].
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