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* ''Series/DegrassiJuniorHigh'' reshot scenes involving money for the US version. Later, ''Series/{{Degrassi}}'' became a notable subversion although generic rather than Ontario-specific terms are still used when discussing things like driver licensing and standardized tests. More recent seasons of ''Series/{{Degrassi}}'' are showing signs of EaglelandOsmosis, though, as the generic Canadian universities of the early seasons have been replaced with very specific American universities (NYU and Yale, to be specific).

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* ''Series/DegrassiJuniorHigh'' reshot scenes involving money for the US version. Later, ''Series/{{Degrassi}}'' became a notable subversion although generic rather than Ontario-specific terms are still used when discussing things like driver licensing and standardized tests. More recent seasons of ''Series/{{Degrassi}}'' are showing signs of EaglelandOsmosis, though, as the generic Canadian universities of the early seasons have been replaced with very specific American universities (NYU and Yale, to be specific).specific), and characters regularly reference studying for the SATs - which is not a requirement for Canadian students ''unless'' they want to attend an American university.

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** Likewise, ''[[Literature/TheLeagueOfPeoplesVerse Commitment Hour]]'' is set in "Tober Cove" (Tobermory, Ontario), and even name-checks the RealLife ferry that runs from Tobermory to Manitoulin Island.



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** Likewise ''[[Literature/TheLeagueOfPeoplesVerse Commitment Hour]]'' is set in "Tober Cove" (Tobermory, Ontario), and even name-checks the RealLife ferry that runs from Tobermory to Manitoulin Island.
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** Likewise ''[[Literature/TheLeagueOfPeoplesVerse Commitment Hour]]'' is set in "Tober Cove" (Tobermory, Ontario), and even name-checks the RealLife ferry that runs from Tobermory to Manitoulin Island.
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** All of which hides the fact that the series was shot in Reyðarfjörður, Iceland. Iceland's Ring Road can be seen entering and leaving "Fortitude" in several shots, despite there not being a road network outside Longyearbyen in Svalbard.

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** All of which hides the fact that the series was shot in Reyðarfjörður, Iceland. Iceland's Ring Road Route 92 can be seen entering and leaving "Fortitude" in several shots, to link up with the nearby Ring Road, despite there not being a road network outside Longyearbyen in Svalbard.
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* ''Series/{{Fortitude}}'' might be a rare non-North American version of this trope, and a weak one at that. Yes, you see the Norwegian flag flying, several major characters are Norwegian and have Norwegian names, there are references to "the mainland", the two fictional communities on the island strongly resemble their real-life counterparts, and lutefisk is mentioned and even eaten at one point. But ... the Norwegian characters almost always speak English, even among themselves, no particular unit of currency is ever mentioned, the research station on the island seems to be run by the British government, and no one ever says "Norway" or any other placename in that country. In short, if you didn't actually know the archipelago of Svalbard or the island of Spitsbergen actually exist, you'd be forgiven for assuming the show's setting is completely fictional and not entirely part of Norway.

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* ''Series/{{Fortitude}}'' might be a rare non-North American version of this trope, and a weak one at that. Yes, you see the Norwegian flag flying, several major characters are Norwegian and have Norwegian names, there are references to "the mainland", the two fictional communities on the island strongly resemble their real-life counterparts, and lutefisk is mentioned and even eaten at one point. But ... the Norwegian characters almost always speak English, even among themselves, no particular unit of currency is ever mentioned, the research station on the island seems to be run by the British government, and no one ever says "Norway" or any other placename place name in that country. In short, if you didn't actually know the archipelago of Svalbard or the island of Spitsbergen actually exist, you'd be forgiven for assuming the show's setting is completely fictional and not entirely part of Norway.Norway.
** All of which hides the fact that the series was shot in Reyðarfjörður, Iceland. Iceland's Ring Road can be seen entering and leaving "Fortitude" in several shots, despite there not being a road network outside Longyearbyen in Svalbard.
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* ''Series/TheLetsGoShow'' was filmed in Canada, but was [[Creator/{{Sprout}} broadcast in America]].

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Canada Does Not Exist is a strange, location-based trope distantly related to WhereTheHellIsSpringfield. Though this trope might arguably apply to a tiny handful of shows shot in other countries, it's the relative closeness of American and Canadian culture, contrasted with their distinct differences, that really defines it. CDNE shows are virtually always shot in a Canadian location, while the fictional setting is deliberately left vague, a generic North American location that is neither fully America nor completely Canada.

Superficially similar to CaliforniaDoubling and other location tropes, CDNE is distinguished by the way the shoot location actually affects the story. With CaliforniaDoubling, the audience needs to accept the desert-scrub of a Burbank backlot as the Amazon rainforest, but the location of the shoot has no effect on the story itself. With CDNE, the location affects the script considerably, forcing the writers into crazy contortions to avoid mentioning or even giving hints about the show's fictional setting.

In the 1980s, a very low Canadian dollar, the construction of a bunch of new production facilities in UsefulNotes/{{Vancouver}}, UsefulNotes/{{Toronto}} and UsefulNotes/{{Montreal}}, and a host of tax incentives triggered a wave of drama TV production by local (though often transplanted American) producers. These quasi-Canadian producers started churning out a bunch of reasonably slick cop and action-adventure shows for a fraction of what they cost to produce in Hollywood, and eventually allowed them to crack the notoriously foreign-phobic U.S. network market.

The first show of this type was ''Series/NightHeat'', a cop series produced in Toronto by Sonny Grosso Productions. It premiered in Canada on CTV in 1985, and later joined the CBS Late Night lineup in 1987. It was the first Canadian-produced drama ever to air on a U.S. network.

That's when things started to get weird. CBS wanted a gritty U.S. cop show set in a gritty U.S. inner city, but CTV (which was still paying most of the bills) needed more domestic drama. When the characters started flashing American eagle police badges and calling up the "district attorney," CTV went ballistic. Already under fire for producing so few domestic TV shows, the last thing the network wanted was for ''Night Heat'' to be perceived as yet another American import in its prime time line-up. Moreover, the Canadian federal tax incentives and production grants the producers were getting likely bound them to certain minimal "Canadian content" rules.[[note]] Indeed, Canadian TV stations must air 55% Canadian content daily; however, this doesn't result in as much Canadian drama or comedy programming as you would think, as local and network news already fills up much of the quota.[[/note]]

Forced to square the circle, the producers decided to set the show ''nowhere,'' albeit a very American-flavoured nowhere. The American eagle police badge became a mutant eagle/beaver hybrid that was never seen in close-up, and all sorts of innocuous words and objects suddenly became more taboo than Creator/GeorgeCarlin's infamous "[[SevenDirtyWords seven words you can't say on TV]]." You couldn't show flags, currency, or license plates, or make overt references to town names or any level of government. Instead of a "district attorney" or "crown prosecutor", the cops would phone the generic "prosecutor." Courtroom scenes were laughably torturous to produce, for obvious reasons. The producers even went out of their way to keep the words "out" and "about" out of the scripts, as those words are infamous shibboleths that, when pronounced by people with Canadian accents, supposedly sound like "oat" and "aboat"

As CBS and other U.S. networks started picking up more Canadian productions, an unspoken "scale of hidden Canadianness" started to emerge. ''Night Heat'' was a pure, level-10 Hidden Canada, bent almost comically out of shape in its attempts to be 100% Yankee Doodle American without ever actually saying so out loud.

'''Note:''' CDNE does not affect plain-vanilla "Hollywood North" productions like ''Series/TheXFiles'', ''[[Franchise/StargateVerse Stargate SG-1]]'' [[Franchise/StargateVerse and its spinoffs]], ''Series/{{Andromeda}}'' and ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}''. These shows are usually big-budget, all-American or international co-venture productions simply outsourced to Canada. They're either set unequivocally in the USA or in a futuristic setting where the whole question is moot.

Compare with CaliforniaDoubling, WeAllLiveInAmerica, CityWithNoName, WhereTheHellIsSpringfield, HollywoodProvincialism, BigApplesauce, NoCommunitiesWereHarmed, and NegativeContinuity.

Contrast with EaglelandOsmosis.

[[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant Not to be confused with]] a character actually believing Canada does not exist. That would fall under EskimosArentReal.

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Canada Does Not Exist is a strange, location-based trope distantly related to WhereTheHellIsSpringfield. Though this trope might arguably apply It's where a cross-border production between Canada and the United States refuses to a tiny handful of shows shot in other countries, acknowledge that it's the relative closeness of American set in ''either'' country, and Canadian culture, contrasted with their distinct differences, that really defines it. CDNE shows are virtually always shot therefore appears to exist in a Canadian location, while the fictional setting is deliberately left vague, a some bizarre generic North American location that location.

The trope arises from the peculiarities of producing television in Canada. Let's face it -- Canada
is neither fully America nor completely Canada.

Superficially similar
not a big place compared to CaliforniaDoubling its [[{{Eagleland}} massive, culturally influential southern neighbour]], and other location tropes, CDNE is distinguished by the way the shoot location actually affects the story. With CaliforniaDoubling, the audience needs to accept the desert-scrub of a Burbank backlot as the Amazon rainforest, but the location of the shoot has no effect on the story itself. With CDNE, the location affects the script considerably, forcing the writers into crazy contortions to avoid mentioning or even giving hints about the show's fictional setting.

In the 1980s, a
it would be very low Canadian dollar, the construction of a bunch of new production facilities in UsefulNotes/{{Vancouver}}, UsefulNotes/{{Toronto}} easy and UsefulNotes/{{Montreal}}, and a host convenient for Canada to just import all of tax incentives triggered a wave of drama TV production by local (though often transplanted American) producers. These quasi-Canadian producers started churning out a bunch of reasonably slick cop and action-adventure its shows for a fraction of what they cost to produce in Hollywood, and eventually allowed them to crack from the notoriously foreign-phobic U.S. network market.

The Canadian government provides several incentives to Canadian producers to make Canadian content, but Canadian federal tax incentives and production grants are usually predicated on there being a certain amount of "Canadian content". Ordinarily, this can be easily satisfied with a fully Canadian production -- even something as mundane as a news broadcast -- but it's not so easy to put together an ''entirely'' Canadian production, so producers seek help from across the border. And they're allowed to do that -- as long as the show is still "Canadian". This trope is therefore quite narrow, and falls into a bizarre situation where the American and Canadian partners each want to broadcast the show in their respective countries -- Americans aren't going to tune in to watch something that's [[CanadaEh obviously Canadian]] without risking their audience, and Canadians won't show something that's obviously American without risking their funding. Therefore, the show has to avoid showing or mentioning anything that could place it in ''either'' country.

The first show of this type was ''Series/NightHeat'', a cop series produced in Toronto by Sonny Grosso Productions. It premiered CTV first aired it in Canada on CTV in 1985, and later joined the CBS put it on its Late Night lineup in 1987. It was 1987, making it the first Canadian-produced drama ever to air on a U.S. network.

That's when things started to get weird.
network. It was quite tempting for CBS, as the Canadian dollar was damn cheap in the 1980s, so production costs were lower in Canada, and cities like UsefulNotes/{{Vancouver}}, UsefulNotes/{{Toronto}}, and UsefulNotes/{{Montreal}} were building all kinds of production facilities. CBS wanted the show to be a gritty American cop drama like everything else, but CTV couldn't allow it to be too "American" without risking losing its tax incentives. ''Night Heat'' therefore became notable for its ''enthusiastic'' practice of this trope, as all sorts of innocuous words and objects suddenly became more taboo than the famous SevenDirtyWords -- no flags, no currency, no license plates, nothing. The police badge became a bizarre hybrid between an eagle and a beaver that was never shown in closeup. Courtroom scenes were laughably torturous to produce because the legal terminology was so different; even mentioning a "district attorney" or "crown prosecutor" was forbidden, and characters just referenced a generic "prosecutor". The producers even went out of their way to keep the words "out" and "about" out of the scripts, given the distinct Canadian way of pronouncing them. As more U.S. cop show set in a gritty U.S. inner city, but CTV (which was still paying most of the bills) needed more domestic drama. When the characters started flashing American eagle police badges and calling up the "district attorney," CTV went ballistic. Already under fire for producing so few domestic TV shows, the last thing the network wanted was for ''Night Heat'' to be perceived as yet another American import in its prime time line-up. Moreover, the Canadian federal tax incentives and production grants the producers were getting likely bound them to certain minimal "Canadian content" rules.[[note]] Indeed, Canadian TV stations must air 55% Canadian content daily; however, this doesn't result in as much Canadian drama or comedy programming as you would think, as local and network news already fills up much of the quota.[[/note]]

Forced to square the circle, the producers decided to set the show ''nowhere,'' albeit a very American-flavoured nowhere. The American eagle police badge became a mutant eagle/beaver hybrid that was never seen in close-up, and all sorts of innocuous words and objects suddenly became more taboo than Creator/GeorgeCarlin's infamous "[[SevenDirtyWords seven words you can't say on TV]]." You couldn't show flags, currency, or license plates, or make overt references to town names or any level of government. Instead of a "district attorney" or "crown prosecutor", the cops would phone the generic "prosecutor." Courtroom scenes were laughably torturous to produce, for obvious reasons. The producers even went out of their way to keep the words "out" and "about" out of the scripts, as those words are infamous shibboleths that, when pronounced by people with Canadian accents, supposedly sound like "oat" and "aboat"

As CBS and other U.S.
networks started picking up more Canadian productions, an unspoken "scale of hidden Canadianness" started to emerge. ''Night Heat'' was a pure, level-10 Hidden Canada, bent almost comically out of shape in its attempts to be 100% Yankee Doodle American without ever actually saying they got more adept at doing this, so out loud.

'''Note:''' CDNE does
it's not affect plain-vanilla nearly as jarring, but you can still pick up on it if you know where to look.

Given the trope's relative narrowness, it's distinct from CaliforniaDoubling -- the audience may be forced to accept the desert scrub of a Burbank backlot as the Amazon rainforest, but it's still explicitly set in the Amazon rainforest. It's also distinct from
"Hollywood North" productions like ''Series/TheXFiles'', ''[[Franchise/StargateVerse Stargate SG-1]]'' [[Franchise/StargateVerse and its spinoffs]], ''Series/{{Andromeda}}'' and ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}''. These shows are usually big-budget, all-American or international co-venture productions simply outsourced to Canada. They're either set unequivocally in the USA or in a futuristic setting productions, where an American production outsources a lot of work to Canada; these are still considered American imports and made for American TV. This is how, say, ''Series/TheXFiles'' can reference distinctly American institutions like [[FBIAgent the whole question is moot.

FBI]] despite being shot in Canada.

Compare with CaliforniaDoubling, CityWithNoName, WeAllLiveInAmerica, CityWithNoName, WhereTheHellIsSpringfield, and NoCommunitiesWereHarmed. Contrast WeAllLiveInAmerica, HollywoodProvincialism, BigApplesauce, NoCommunitiesWereHarmed, EaglelandOsmosis, and NegativeContinuity.

Contrast with EaglelandOsmosis.

BigApplesauce (Toronto's been known to pretend to be New York).

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[[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant Not to be confused with]] thought this trope meant]] a character ''character'' who actually believing believes that Canada does not exist. That would fall under EskimosArentReal.doesn't exist, you're looking for EskimosArentReal.
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* In ''Series/TheTribe'', which was filmed in New Zealand, the show was set in a vaguely-defined place called simply "The City". Most of the characters spoke with New Zealand accents (and those that didn't had British or American ones), the scenery was obviously New Zealand, and the money though rarely shown was British banknotes. But New Zealand definitely did not exist.
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* ''Series/TheListener'' At least partially subverted with prominent views of the Toronto skyline. When the main character gives a homeless man a dollar, it's a coin. References to Canada were deliberately changed in the closed captions for the American market. Averted with a vengeance from the second season onward, with direct references to Canadian cities and politics, the RCMP, a massive Canadian flag, and shout-outs to Canadian bands and TV shows.

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* ''Series/TheListener'' At ''Series/TheListener'': Originally broadcast both on CTV and NBC, causing its Canada-ness to be muted in the first season--though this was at least partially subverted with prominent views of the Toronto skyline. When skyline (which an American viewer might or might not recognize); also, when the main character gives a homeless man a dollar, it's a coin. References Nonetheless, references to Canada were deliberately changed in the closed captions for the American market. Averted with a vengeance from the second season onward, onward (after NBC canceled the series), with direct references to Canadian cities and politics, the RCMP, a massive Canadian flag, and shout-outs to Canadian bands and TV shows.shows.
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* This is a very common trend with Canadian animated series, especially those aimed at children, with the settings of most shows usually being a relatively nondescript North American town and the characters giving no indication of being Canadian in any way. It's arguably much easier to list Canadian cartoons that are openly stated to be set in Canada than it is to list those that aren't.
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* ''Film/DiaryOfAWimpyKid'' was filmed in Vancouver, but was set in [[CityWithNoName an unnamed city]] with its location never mentioned.
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Forced to square the circle, the producers decided to set the show ''nowhere,'' albeit a very American-flavoured nowhere. The American eagle police badge became a mutant eagle/beaver hybrid that was never seen in close-up, and all sorts of innocuous words and objects suddenly became more taboo than Creator/GeorgeCarlin's infamous "[[SevenDirtyWords seven words you can't say on TV]]." You couldn't show flags, currency, or license plates, or make overt references to town names or any level of government. Instead of a "district attorney" or "crown prosecutor", the cops would phone the generic "prosecutor." Courtroom scenes were laughably torturous to produce, for obvious reasons. The producers even went out of their way to keep the words "out" and "about" out of the scripts, as those words are infamous shibboleths that, when pronounced by people with Canadian accents, sound like "oat" and "aboat".

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Forced to square the circle, the producers decided to set the show ''nowhere,'' albeit a very American-flavoured nowhere. The American eagle police badge became a mutant eagle/beaver hybrid that was never seen in close-up, and all sorts of innocuous words and objects suddenly became more taboo than Creator/GeorgeCarlin's infamous "[[SevenDirtyWords seven words you can't say on TV]]." You couldn't show flags, currency, or license plates, or make overt references to town names or any level of government. Instead of a "district attorney" or "crown prosecutor", the cops would phone the generic "prosecutor." Courtroom scenes were laughably torturous to produce, for obvious reasons. The producers even went out of their way to keep the words "out" and "about" out of the scripts, as those words are infamous shibboleths that, when pronounced by people with Canadian accents, supposedly sound like "oat" and "aboat".
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* Applies to most "tax shelter films" of the 1970s and '80s, if not outright [[CaliforniaDoubling Canada Doubling]]. These films intended audiences were primarily American, so at best the films would be set in a CityWithNoName filled with allusions to American popular culture to create a suitably generic "North American" urban setting. This extended to the practice of dubbing local actors with strong regional accents, particularly those from Francophone regions. See ''Film/{{Scanners}}'' and its sequel ''Film/ScannersIITheNewOrder''; both of them were shot in Montreal and adhere to this trope.
* A funny Canada Does Not Exist moment was related about Creator/DavidCronenberg's remake ''Film/{{The Fly|1986}}'' (1986), shot in Toronto. During production, they hit a crisis moment when the script called for Jeff Goldblum's character to prominently pay someone $50 in cash. Cronenberg, himself a Canadian, couldn't decide whether to use Canadian or American currency. In the end, he opted for U.S. greenbacks, pretty ironic considering that [[Film/TheFly1958 the 1950s Vincent Price original]], shot in Hollywood, was actually set in Montreal, and given that several of his other movies were unequivocally set in Canada, even if they had mostly American actors (like ''Film/{{Videodrome}}''), ''and'' given that the CN Tower, a major Toronto landmark, is clearly visible in one shot.
* ''Film/HoboWithAShotgun'' features many of the hallmarks of this trope, what with the oddly-generic police badges, fake currency that resembles neither American nor Canadian bills, and so on and so forth.

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* Applies to most "tax shelter films" of the 1970s and '80s, if not outright [[CaliforniaDoubling Canada Doubling]]. These films intended audiences were primarily American, so at best the films would be set in a CityWithNoName filled with allusions to American popular culture to create a suitably generic "North American" urban setting. This extended to the practice of dubbing local actors with strong regional accents, particularly those from Francophone regions. See ''Film/{{Scanners}}'' and its sequel ''Film/ScannersIITheNewOrder''; both of them were shot mostly in Montreal and adhere strongly to this trope.
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* A funny Canada Does Not Exist moment was related about Creator/DavidCronenberg's remake version of ''Film/{{The Fly|1986}}'' (1986), shot in Toronto. During production, they hit a crisis moment when the script called for Jeff Goldblum's character to prominently pay someone $50 in cash. Cronenberg, himself a Canadian, couldn't decide whether to use Canadian or American currency. In the end, he opted for U.S. greenbacks, pretty ironic considering that [[Film/TheFly1958 the 1950s 1950s Vincent Price original]], shot in Hollywood, was actually set in Montreal, and given that several of his other movies were unequivocally set in Canada, even if they had mostly American actors (like ''Film/{{Videodrome}}''), ''and'' given that the CN Tower, a major Toronto landmark, is clearly visible in one shot.
* ''Film/HoboWithAShotgun'' features many of the hallmarks of this trope, what with the oddly-generic police badges, fake currency that resembles neither American nor Canadian bills, and so on and so forth. It was shot in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, and is filled with subtle Canadian references.



* ''Film/DiaryOfAWimpyKid'' was filmed in Vancouver, but was set in an unnamed city with its location never mentioned.

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* ''Series/{{Goosebumps}}'': Toronto, Canada was one of the series' primary filming locations, but most episodes were set in a vaguely North American town.

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* ''Series/{{Goosebumps}}'': Toronto, Canada was one of the series' primary filming locations, but most episodes were set in a vaguely North American town. The "Don't Go To Sleep" episode had a shouty hockey coach that Canadian audiences will immediately recognize as hockey commentator Don Cherry. To Americans, however, he's simply a weird red-faced man who keeps yelling.



* Both of Rick Siggelkow's AdaptationExpansion series, ''Series/ShiningTimeStation'' and ''Series/TheNoddyShop'', are filmed in Canada but appear to take place in the United States (in the latter case, the titular store was based on a real antique store in upstate New York). However, in some cases they do mess up-one episode of ''The Noddy Shop'' had a scene where a character said "Zed" instead of "Z".

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* Both of Rick Siggelkow's AdaptationExpansion series, ''Series/ShiningTimeStation'' and ''Series/TheNoddyShop'', are filmed in Canada but appear to take place in the United States (in the latter case, the titular store was based on a real antique store in upstate New York). However, in some cases they do mess up-one episode of ''The Noddy Shop'' had a scene where a character said "Zed" pronounced the letter Z as "Zed", instead of "Z".the American "Zee".


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* The CBC courtroom drama ''Series/ThisIsWonderland'' made a point of not doing this, being pretty unambiguously set not only in Toronto, but in the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_City_Hall_(Toronto) Old City Hall Courthouse]]. It did, however, provide subtle ExpoSpeak for some very regionally-specific things, like when Elliot, despite being a lawyer, didn't know that a [=G1=] driver's license was equivalent to a learner's permit. This may have been more for the benefit of viewers in other provinces than in the States, though.


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* ''WebVideo/BrandonsCultMovieReviews'' makes a running gag out of pointing out these kinds of discrepancies in Canadian-made movies, many of which will try very hard to pass as American-made. Brandon himself is from Saskatchewan.
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* Played with in the Canadian-produced ''WesternAnimation/CloneHigh''. It is explicitly set in the fictional town of "Exclamation, USA", but one character spends her spring break on "the sunny beaches of Canada, where the sun is always shining." An American viewer unaware of the show's Canadian origins [[InsideJoke would be quite puzzled]] about the point of the joke.



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' was probably meant to take place in Pennsylvania, given that creator Marc Brown based Elwood City off of his hometown (Erie, which sits directly across Lake Erie from Canada). One of the earliest episodes has the family go to D.C. to see the White House and meet UsefulNotes/BillClinton (sure, he's an aardvark, but still...), which seems to imply they are at least American. Later episodes occasionally reference Canadian cities and culture (likely since co-producer Cinar/Cookie Jar was based in Canada).
** More recent episodes seem to go back to the American setting, as new character Ladonna references being from New Orleans, and is never outright treated as being from a different country.
** ''WesternAnimation/PostcardsFromBuster'' also seemed to support the American setting. One of the characters mentioned growing up in Washington. Another episode, while visiting Canada, had Buster be surprised by the concept of "poutine." Makes sense for an American (let's not get into New Jersey having disco fries)...not so much from a Canadian.
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* Comedian Julie Nolke is Canadian, but her sketches often obscure this fact and get presented from an American point of view. For example, her viral "Explaining the Pandemic to My Past Self" series focuses largely on local American events, like the California wildfires and the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
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* ''{{Film/DiaryOfAWimpyKid}}'' was filmed in Vancouver, but was set in an unnamed city with its location never mentioned.

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** In an episode involving a ghost train, however, locomotives and rolling stock with VIA Rail Canada and Canadian National lettering and paint schemes feature prominently; in addition, a soldier on board the ghost train wears an ambiguous khaki uniform that isn't quite American ''or'' Canadian.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' was probably meant to take place in Pennsylvania, given that creator Marc Brown based Elwood City off of his hometown (Erie, about ninety miles from the Canadian border). One of the earliest episodes has the family go to D.C. to see the White House and meet UsefulNotes/BillClinton (sure, he's an aardvark, but still...), which seems to imply they are at least American. Later episodes occasionally reference Canadian cities and culture (likely since co-producer Cinar/Cookie Jar was based in Canada).

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' was probably meant to take place in Pennsylvania, given that creator Marc Brown based Elwood City off of his hometown (Erie, about ninety miles which sits directly across Lake Erie from the Canadian border).Canada). One of the earliest episodes has the family go to D.C. to see the White House and meet UsefulNotes/BillClinton (sure, he's an aardvark, but still...), which seems to imply they are at least American. Later episodes occasionally reference Canadian cities and culture (likely since co-producer Cinar/Cookie Jar was based in Canada).
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* Both of Rick Siggelkow's AdaptationExpansion series, ''Series/ShiningTimeStation'' and ''Series/TheNoddyShop'', are filmed in Canada but appear to take place in the United States (in the latter case, the titular store was based on a real antique store in New York City). However, in some cases they do mess up-one episode of ''The Noddy Shop'' had a scene where a character said "Zed" instead of "Z".

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* Both of Rick Siggelkow's AdaptationExpansion series, ''Series/ShiningTimeStation'' and ''Series/TheNoddyShop'', are filmed in Canada but appear to take place in the United States (in the latter case, the titular store was based on a real antique store in upstate New York City).York). However, in some cases they do mess up-one episode of ''The Noddy Shop'' had a scene where a character said "Zed" instead of "Z".
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* ''{{Film/DiaryOfAWimpyKid}}'' was filmed in Vancouver, but was set in an unnamed city with its location never mentioned.
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* A version of this trope appears in the Irish film ''The Brylcreem Boys'', VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory about Allied and German military personnel who were stranded in neutral Ireland during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and held in adjacent internment camps. One of the main characters is an officer of the RCAF and [[InformedAttribute explicitly stated to be Canadian]], but, other than a few obligatory lines inserted to establish his nationality, he consistently acts like an American and all other characters treat him as such (he talks about American isolationist politicians with a telling "we," the other main character, a German patriot but no Nazi, insistently laces his lines with "you Americans" in conversations with him, etc.). This might be because of CriticalResearchFailure by filmmakers who failed to appreciate that Canada is not same as the US. Or, this might be because the character is intended to be an AudienceSurrogate for American audiences to whom Canadian perspectives on UsefulNotes/WorldWarII would not be familiar.

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* A version of this trope appears in the Irish film ''The Brylcreem Boys'', VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory about Allied and German military personnel who were stranded in neutral Ireland during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and held in adjacent internment camps. One of the main characters is an officer of the RCAF and [[InformedAttribute explicitly stated to be Canadian]], but, other than a few obligatory lines inserted to establish his nationality, he consistently acts like an American and all other characters treat him as such (he talks about American isolationist politicians with a telling "we," the other main character, a German patriot but no Nazi, insistently laces his lines with "you Americans" in conversations with him, etc.). This might be because of CriticalResearchFailure by filmmakers who failed to appreciate that Canada is not the same as the US. Or, this might be because the character is intended to be an AudienceSurrogate for American audiences to whom Canadian perspectives on UsefulNotes/WorldWarII would not be familiar.
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* ''{{Film/Clara}}'': Except for the mere mention that it's set in Toronto, the film never displays any signs that this is Canada.
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* ''Series/SchittsCreek'': The show keeps the location of Schitt's Creek ambiguous, never explicitly referencing its location either in Canada or the United States. The official reason is so the characters stand on their own and do not represent the real-world denizens of any specific region.

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* ''Series/SchittsCreek'': The show keeps the location of Schitt's Creek ambiguous, never explicitly referencing its location either in Canada or the United States. The official reason is so the characters stand on their own and do not represent the real-world denizens of any specific region. Eagle-eyed viewers, however, will still spot "Canadian Content" such as Canadian style railroad crossing signs, police wearing Canadian-style uniforms with red cap bands and trouser stripes, and Roland wearing a Commonwealth-style mayoral collar.
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* A notable ''aversion'' may be ''Private Eyes'', a 2016 DetectiveDrama and [[Creator/{{ION}} Ion Original]], in the USA, centering on a retired sports star using his remaining clout and fame to get where his actual PrivateDetective partner can't. His sport? ''Hockey''. Their city? Actually, ''obviously'', Toronto, skyline, flags, and all. The fact Ion imported it is rather baffling.
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Forced to square the circle, the producers decided to set the show ''nowhere,'' albeit a very American-flavoured nowhere. The American eagle police badge became a mutant eagle/beaver hybrid that was never seen in close-up, and all sorts of innocuous words and objects suddenly became more taboo than Creator/GeorgeCarlin's infamous "[[SevenDirtyWords seven words you can't say on TV]]." You couldn't show flags, currency, or license plates, or make overt references to town names or any level of government. Instead of a "district attorney" or "crown prosecutor", the cops would phone the generic "prosecutor." Courtroom scenes were laughably torturous to produce, for obvious reasons.

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Forced to square the circle, the producers decided to set the show ''nowhere,'' albeit a very American-flavoured nowhere. The American eagle police badge became a mutant eagle/beaver hybrid that was never seen in close-up, and all sorts of innocuous words and objects suddenly became more taboo than Creator/GeorgeCarlin's infamous "[[SevenDirtyWords seven words you can't say on TV]]." You couldn't show flags, currency, or license plates, or make overt references to town names or any level of government. Instead of a "district attorney" or "crown prosecutor", the cops would phone the generic "prosecutor." Courtroom scenes were laughably torturous to produce, for obvious reasons.
reasons. The producers even went out of their way to keep the words "out" and "about" out of the scripts, as those words are infamous shibboleths that, when pronounced by people with Canadian accents, sound like "oat" and "aboat".
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' was probably meant to take place in Pennsylvania, given that creator Marc Brown based Elwood City off of his hometown (Erie, about ninety miles from the Canadian border). One of the earliest episodes has the family go to D.C. to see the White House and meet UsefulNotes/BillClinton (sure, he's an aardvark, but still...), which seems to imply they are at least American. Later episodes occasionally reference Canadian cities and culture.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' was probably meant to take place in Pennsylvania, given that creator Marc Brown based Elwood City off of his hometown (Erie, about ninety miles from the Canadian border). One of the earliest episodes has the family go to D.C. to see the White House and meet UsefulNotes/BillClinton (sure, he's an aardvark, but still...), which seems to imply they are at least American. Later episodes occasionally reference Canadian cities and culture.culture (likely since co-producer Cinar/Cookie Jar was based in Canada).
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* Applies to most "tax shelter films" of the 1970s and '80s, if not outright [[CaliforniaDoubling Canada Doubling]]. These films intended audiences were primarily American, so at best the films would be set in a CityWithNoName filled with allusions to American popular culture to create a suitably generic "North American" urban setting. This extended to the practice of dubbing local actors with strong regional accents, particularly those from Francophone regions. See ''Film/{{Scanners}}'' and its sequel ''Film/ScannersIITheNewOrder'', both of such were shot in Montreal and adhere to this trope.

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* Applies to most "tax shelter films" of the 1970s and '80s, if not outright [[CaliforniaDoubling Canada Doubling]]. These films intended audiences were primarily American, so at best the films would be set in a CityWithNoName filled with allusions to American popular culture to create a suitably generic "North American" urban setting. This extended to the practice of dubbing local actors with strong regional accents, particularly those from Francophone regions. See ''Film/{{Scanners}}'' and its sequel ''Film/ScannersIITheNewOrder'', ''Film/ScannersIITheNewOrder''; both of such them were shot in Montreal and adhere to this trope.
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* ''Podcast/{{Qwerpline}}'' is intentionally vague as to whether it takes place in America or WebVideo/LoadingReadyRun's native Canada.

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* ''Podcast/{{Qwerpline}}'' is intentionally vague as to whether it takes place in America or WebVideo/LoadingReadyRun's native Canada. Even the characters in the show don't seem to know; there's a running gag in one episode that nobody knows whether the drinking age is 19 or 21 and they eventually just declare it a "grey area".



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' was probably meant to take place in Pennsylvania, given that creator Marc Brown based Elwood City off of his hometown. One of the earliest episodes has the family go to D.C. to see the White House and meet UsefulNotes/BillClinton (sure, he's an aardvark, but still...), which seems to imply they are at least American. Later episodes occasionally reference Canadian cities and culture.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' was probably meant to take place in Pennsylvania, given that creator Marc Brown based Elwood City off of his hometown.hometown (Erie, about ninety miles from the Canadian border). One of the earliest episodes has the family go to D.C. to see the White House and meet UsefulNotes/BillClinton (sure, he's an aardvark, but still...), which seems to imply they are at least American. Later episodes occasionally reference Canadian cities and culture.

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* A version of this trope appears in the Irish film ''The Brylcreem Boys'', VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory about Allied and German military personnel who were stranded in neutral Ireland during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and held in adjacent internment camps. One of the main characters is an officer of the RCAF and [[InformedAttribute explicitly stated to be Canadian]], but, other than a few obligatory lines inserted to establish his nationality, he consistently acts like an American and all other characters treat him as such. (He talks about American isolationist politicians with telling "we," the other main character, a German patriot but no Nazi, insistently laces his lines with "you Americans" in conversations with him, etc.) This might be because of CriticalResearchFailure by filmmakers who failed to appreciate that Canada is not same as the US. Or, this might be because the character is intended to be an AudienceSurrogate for American audiences to whom Canadian perspectives on UsefulNotes/WorldWarII would not be familiar.

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* A version of this trope appears in the Irish film ''The Brylcreem Boys'', VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory about Allied and German military personnel who were stranded in neutral Ireland during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII and held in adjacent internment camps. One of the main characters is an officer of the RCAF and [[InformedAttribute explicitly stated to be Canadian]], but, other than a few obligatory lines inserted to establish his nationality, he consistently acts like an American and all other characters treat him as such. (He such (he talks about American isolationist politicians with a telling "we," the other main character, a German patriot but no Nazi, insistently laces his lines with "you Americans" in conversations with him, etc.) ). This might be because of CriticalResearchFailure by filmmakers who failed to appreciate that Canada is not same as the US. Or, this might be because the character is intended to be an AudienceSurrogate for American audiences to whom Canadian perspectives on UsefulNotes/WorldWarII would not be familiar.


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* ''Film/BelowHerMouth'': Though it's set in Toronto, you'd find it hard to notice if you didn't know.

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