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1st Sep '17 7:44:12 PM KnightSpark
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-->'''Michael''': You know what? That might be the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me.

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-->'''Michael''': You know what? That just might be the nicest thing anyone's anybody's ever said to me.
20th Aug '17 8:35:50 PM PaulA
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* Creator/MercedesLackey does this one to a turn in ''[[Literature/LastHeraldMageTrilogy Magic's Pawn]]'': after a series of traumatic experience that include the death of his first love, a failed attempt at suicide, and the sudden acquisition of a massive array of powers that he doesn't really want, Vanyel is drugged to the gills and barely conscious but still able to pull a mild {{Carrie}} on his abusive father for spending his entire childhood trying to have the "weakness" beaten out of him and make sure that he became a "real man." He repeatedly uses his new telekinetic powers to knock his father to the ground, demanding to know if he's finally "strong enough" and how his father likes being pushed around by someone bigger and stronger than he is. (His father gets the message, and by the third book of the trilogy, the two of them manage to reconcile.)

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* Creator/MercedesLackey does this one to a turn in Creator/MercedesLackey's ''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'' series:
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''[[Literature/LastHeraldMageTrilogy Magic's Pawn]]'': after After a series of traumatic experience that include the death of his first love, a failed attempt at suicide, and the sudden acquisition of a massive array of powers that he doesn't really want, Vanyel is drugged to the gills and barely conscious but still able to pull a mild {{Carrie}} Literature/{{Carrie}} on his abusive father for spending his entire childhood trying to have the "weakness" beaten out of him and make sure that he became a "real man." He repeatedly uses his new telekinetic powers to knock his father to the ground, demanding to know if he's finally "strong enough" and how his father likes being pushed around by someone bigger and stronger than he is. (His father gets the message, and by the third book of the trilogy, the two of them manage to reconcile.)
19th Aug '17 4:45:31 AM Hjortron18
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* The titular character in ''Film/Boy2010'' does this finally to his father who left him and his little brother to live with their granny and only returns when he tries to find robbed money he buried in the area.
-->'''Boy:''' I don't remember you! You weren't there! You weren't there when he was born! You weren't there when she died! Where were you?
17th Aug '17 12:14:47 PM ShorinBJ
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* ''Series/HartOfDixie'': Zoe gives one to her father for abandoning her after he found out he wasn't her biological father.



** Eric gets one when he finally stands up to his overbearing father Red, who is particularly bitter over having sold his Corvette to raise money for what he thinks is his wife Kitty's pregnancy, only to realize he did it for nothing when Kitty's actually going through menopause. After Red snaps at Eric one too many times, Eric finally loses his temper and tears a strip off Red for whining about losing his Corvette, when Kitty is extremely upset and needs his support. Eric concludes by reminding Red of all the times he'd told Eric to "be a man", and then tells Red to practice what he preaches and "be a man" for his wife.

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** Eric gets one when he finally stands up to his overbearing father Red, who is particularly bitter over having sold his Corvette to raise money for what he thinks is his wife Kitty's pregnancy, only to realize he did it for nothing when Kitty's pregnancy (turns out she's actually going through menopause.menopause). After Red snaps at Eric one too many times, Eric finally loses his temper and tears a strip off Red for whining about losing his Corvette, when Kitty is extremely upset and needs his support. Eric concludes by reminding Red of all the times he'd told Eric to "be a man", and then tells Red to practice what he preaches and "be a man" for his wife. It does a good job of snapping Red out of his self-pity, too.



** Logan hates his Dad, and is calls him out a few times -- once on [[spoiler:Lynn's death]], which Aaron is held accountable for, given how he [[spoiler:cheated on her until she couldn't take it, and threw herself off a bridge.]] Later, in Season 2, the two are put in a [[spoiler:jail cell]] together, and Logan yells at Aaron about the fact he [[spoiler:slept with then ''killed'' Logan's girlfriend, then tried to kill Logan's next girlfriend]], despite Aaron's denials.
** Dick gets a pretty epic one in Season 3, when his Dad suddenly returns and he calls Dad out on the way they treated Cassidy, how much responsibility they have in [[spoiler:Cassidy killing a dozen people and throwing himself off a hotel roof]], and why Dad didn't come back for [[spoiler:Cassidy's funeral]].

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** Logan hates his Dad, dad, and is calls him out a few times -- once on [[spoiler:Lynn's death]], which Aaron is held accountable for, given how he [[spoiler:cheated on her until she couldn't take it, and threw herself off a bridge.]] Later, in Season 2, the two are put in a [[spoiler:jail cell]] together, and Logan yells at Aaron about the fact he [[spoiler:slept with then ''killed'' Logan's girlfriend, then tried to kill Logan's next girlfriend]], despite Aaron's denials.
** Dick gets a pretty epic one in Season 3, when his Dad dad suddenly returns and he calls Dad dad out on the way they treated Cassidy, how much responsibility they have in [[spoiler:Cassidy killing a dozen people and throwing himself off a hotel roof]], and why Dad dad didn't come back for [[spoiler:Cassidy's funeral]].
15th Aug '17 7:23:30 PM Qrow
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* In Volume 4 of ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', Weiss ''finally'' calls out her [[TheSociopath father]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Jacques]] in the episode "Punished", declaring that she'll leave and be a [[HunterOfMonsters Huntress]] no matter what he says. She even puts a stop on his rant about "the Schnee name" by reminding him he ''[[GoldDigger married into that name]]'', so it's not his to protect. Unfortunatley, he responds by [[spoiler: [[AbusiveParents slapping her in the face]], disinheriting her, and deciding to keep her prisoner until she bends to his wishes, and just tell anyone who asks about her that she became mentally-unstable after the Battle of Beacon]]. Of course, this just means [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere there's no longer any reason for her to stay in Atlas]].
12th Aug '17 1:12:29 PM Gosicrystal
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* [[DarkMagicalGirl Fate Testarossa]] in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', after years of abuse by her mother MadScientist Precia, [[spoiler:subverts this when instead of calling her mother out, she tries to redeem her to the very end. Instead, Nanoha and Lindy Harlaown are the ones to call her out. Psycho lady is so far gone that she just shakes their insults off and commits suicide with the [[PeopleJars jar]] containing the dead body of little Alicia, the daughter Fate was supposed to [[ReplacementGoldfish replace]]]].

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[[DarkMagicalGirl Fate Testarossa]] in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', Testarossa]], after years of abuse by her mother MadScientist Precia, [[spoiler:subverts this when instead of calling her mother out, she tries to redeem her to the very end. Instead, Nanoha and Lindy Harlaown are the ones to call her out. Psycho lady is so far gone that she just shakes their insults off and commits suicide with the [[PeopleJars jar]] containing the dead body of little Alicia, the daughter Fate was supposed to [[ReplacementGoldfish replace]]]].



* In Chapter 440 of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', [[spoiler:Naruto calls out his father Minato Namikaze ([[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/pic-6-440-greeting-dad.jpg quite physically at first]]), the 4th Hokage, (or the spirit of the 4th, [[JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind it's not really clear]]) on his decision to seal the Nine-tails in Naruto, which led to his early years of loneliness and becoming a target of Akatsuki. Minato goes on to explain his reasons (which ''are'' pretty good, by the way), but he ''does'' acknowledge that he caused Naruto a great deal of pain and that he probably doesn't have a right to act like a father anymore.]]
** Considerably earlier, we have his chewing out and calling out Tsunade as a drunken coward unworthy of the title of Hokage after Sarutobi dies. As the whole reason he and Jiraiya found her was that she was supposed to be his new boss, this would have to count. [[spoiler:Admittedly, she does smack him around in the fight, but he makes her go beyond her boast of doing it with but a single finger. Naruto's a master of taking every victory he can.]]

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In Chapter 440 of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'', 440, [[spoiler:Naruto calls out his father Minato Namikaze ([[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/pic-6-440-greeting-dad.jpg quite physically at first]]), the 4th Hokage, (or the spirit of the 4th, [[JourneyToTheCenterOfTheMind it's not really clear]]) on his decision to seal the Nine-tails in Naruto, which led to his early years of loneliness and becoming a target of Akatsuki. Minato goes on to explain his reasons (which ''are'' pretty good, by the way), but he ''does'' acknowledge that he caused Naruto a great deal of pain and that he probably doesn't have a right to act like a father anymore.]]
** Considerably earlier, we We have his Naruto chewing out and calling out Tsunade as a drunken coward unworthy of the title of Hokage after Sarutobi dies. As the whole reason he and Jiraiya found her was that she was supposed to be his new boss, this would have to count. [[spoiler:Admittedly, she does smack him around in the fight, but he makes her go beyond her boast of doing it with but a single finger. Naruto's a master of taking every victory he can.]]



** Boruto himself does this with his father Naruto in ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie''.

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** %%** Boruto himself does this with his father Naruto in ''Anime/BorutoNarutoTheMovie''.



** Despite really deserving it, Gendo Ikari never got called out by his son Shinji, although his wife's ghost did confront him about his behavior close to the end [[spoiler:and his last words before dying were "I'm sorry, Shinji"]].
*** For what it is worth, Shinji admits late in the series that his main motivation for coming to Tokyo-3 was originally to tell Gendo off for abandoning him. But when Gendo sprung the surprise on Shinji that he wanted him to become Unit-01's pilot, Shinji's resolve vanished and he never got around to it.

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** Despite really deserving it, Gendo Ikari never got called out by his son Shinji, although his wife's ghost did confront him about his behavior close to the end [[spoiler:and his last words before dying were "I'm sorry, Shinji"]].
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Shinji"]]. For what it is worth, Shinji admits late in the series that his main motivation for coming to Tokyo-3 was originally to tell Gendo off for abandoning him. But when Gendo sprung the surprise on Shinji that he wanted him to become Unit-01's pilot, Shinji's resolve vanished and he never got around to it.



* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', one of Whitebeard's allies Squardo [[spoiler: stabs Whitebeard and angrily calls him out for selling out his allies to the Marines, which was a lie that Akainu made up.]] His bitter resentment towards Ace's father (who had eliminated his crew, leaving him the sole survivor) and discovering just who Ace's father was also led to the calling out.

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* In ''Manga/OnePiece'', one ''Manga/OnePiece'':
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of Whitebeard's allies Squardo [[spoiler: stabs Whitebeard and angrily calls him out for selling out his allies to the Marines, which was a lie that Akainu made up.]] His bitter resentment towards Ace's father (who had eliminated his crew, leaving him the sole survivor) and discovering just who Ace's father was also led to the calling out.



* {{Subverted}} in an early episode of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}''. Flint presents himself upon his son Brock after having abandoned him and his nine siblings some time ago, and tells him he's going to take care of them again. Brock approaches Flint while he braces himself, preparing for the worst, when Brock gives him...a needle and cloth. Brock then proceeds to [[TheLongList list all the tasks his father has to do daily]] to care for the children, while Flint struggles to take notes of them all. Afterward, Brock is free to leave with Ash and Misty. (Surprisingly, in an abridged series, this is played far straighter.)
** He gets a chance to call out ''both'' his parents properly later in two separate episodes for not taking care of the Pewter Gym properly.

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* {{Subverted}} in an early episode of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}''. Flint presents himself upon his son Brock after having abandoned him and his nine siblings some time ago, and tells him he's going to take care of them again. Brock approaches Flint while he braces himself, preparing for the worst, when Brock gives him...a needle and cloth. Brock then proceeds to [[TheLongList list all the tasks his father has to do daily]] to care for the children, while Flint struggles to take notes of them all. Afterward, Brock is free to leave with Ash and Misty. (Surprisingly, in an abridged series, this is played far straighter.)
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) He gets a chance to call out ''both'' his parents properly later in two separate episodes for not taking care of the Pewter Gym properly.



* Although Ranma and Genma from ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' routinely fight as part of both their training routine and their personal interaction, the former ''really'' let the latter have it when he recalled that his father regularly bullied him for food... merely because Ranma was still comparatively weaker and couldn't stop the then-older, stronger martial artist from taking his meal. And the incidents with the [[Main/TrainingFromHell Cat Fist]] or the very fact that Ranma [[Main/GenderBender turns into a woman]] because of him...
** In a rather surprising instance, ''Kasumi'', [[ThePollyanna of all people]], gets angry enough to [[BewareTheNiceOnes yell at Genma and demand explanations]] for [[WhatWereYouThinking why he took Ranma to a place as dangerous as Jusenkyo]].
*** This is Kasumi from Volume One, Chapter Two of the manga. [[{{Flanderization}} This is before she became the girl that can only say "Oh My" that is so common in fanfics and later parts of the manga and anime]].

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Although Ranma and Genma from ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' routinely fight as part of both their training routine and their personal interaction, the former ''really'' let the latter have it when he recalled that his father regularly bullied him for food... merely because Ranma was still comparatively weaker and couldn't stop the then-older, stronger martial artist from taking his meal. And the incidents with the [[Main/TrainingFromHell Cat Fist]] or the very fact that Ranma [[Main/GenderBender turns into a woman]] because of him...
** In a rather surprising instance, ''Kasumi'', [[ThePollyanna of all people]], gets angry enough to [[BewareTheNiceOnes yell at Genma and demand explanations]] for [[WhatWereYouThinking why he took Ranma to a place as dangerous as Jusenkyo]].
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Jusenkyo]].[[note]]This is Kasumi from Volume One, Chapter Two of the manga. [[{{Flanderization}} This is before she became the girl that can only say "Oh My" that is so common in fanfics and later parts of the manga and anime]].[[/note]]



*** Also revived in the anime, when the Principal goes back home to attend Kodachi's school conferences instead of Kuno, whos had to raise his little sister himself ever since Daddy left. Kuno, no matter how he can't get along with Kodachi ''and'' how she actually is a DaddysGirl, refuses to just take it and again challenges his dad. Again, Kuno wins.

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*** Also revived in the anime, when ** When the Principal goes back home to attend Kodachi's school conferences instead of Kuno, whos had to raise his little sister himself ever since Daddy left. Kuno, no matter how he can't get along with Kodachi ''and'' how she actually is a DaddysGirl, refuses to just take it and again challenges his dad. Again, Kuno wins.



* Nicely subverted in ''Manga/SakuraGari''. [[spoiler:Souma ''starts'' to call his father out loudly for his LovingAShadow obsession with his MissingMom Abigail... but what works is to kindly speak to him and tell him that Abigail has forgiven him.]]
* Horribly and massively subverted in ''Manga/SoulEater''. [[spoiler:Medusa starts treating Crona kindly after [[AmbiguousGender s/he]] kills Tsar. Crona is so shocked that s/he kills Medusa brutally, saying that his/her abusive mother wouldn't treat him/her so kindly ever. But actually, it was ''a ThanatosGambit from Medusa'', who by making him/her throw away the last one s/he relayed on by killing her (Medusa), Crona completed the whole Black Blood process, ''thus making Crona crazier than ever''. Just like Medusa wanted.]] Hoo. Lee. Sheeeeeet.

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* Nicely subverted Subverted in ''Manga/SakuraGari''. [[spoiler:Souma ''starts'' to call his father out loudly for his LovingAShadow obsession with his MissingMom Abigail... but what works is to kindly speak to him and tell him that Abigail has forgiven him.]]
* Horribly and massively subverted Subverted in ''Manga/SoulEater''. [[spoiler:Medusa starts treating Crona kindly after [[AmbiguousGender s/he]] kills Tsar. Crona is so shocked that s/he kills Medusa brutally, saying that his/her abusive mother wouldn't treat him/her so kindly ever. But actually, it was ''a ThanatosGambit from Medusa'', who by making him/her throw away the last one s/he relayed on by killing her (Medusa), Crona completed the whole Black Blood process, ''thus making Crona crazier than ever''. Just like Medusa wanted.]] Hoo. Lee. Sheeeeeet.



* Happens with [[ConflictBall distressing]] and [[AesopAmnesia perfectly typical]] regularity to [[IWorkAlone Batman]]. The ones doing the calling out tend to be Nightwing and Oracle -- the oldest son and the not-quite-daughter with the most equal standing with Batman. Oracle criticizes him openly a lot more than Nightwing does, whereas Nightwing's are more violent. Stephanie Brown ''unleashes'' on Batman in the Road Home for all the manipulation crap she's been through. Jason Todd has called him out on his moral selfishness.

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Happens with [[ConflictBall distressing]] and [[AesopAmnesia perfectly typical]] regularity to [[IWorkAlone Batman]]. The ones doing the calling out tend to be Nightwing and Oracle -- the oldest son and the not-quite-daughter with the most equal standing with Batman. Oracle criticizes him openly a lot more than Nightwing does, whereas Nightwing's are more violent. Stephanie Brown ''unleashes'' on Batman in the Road Home for all the manipulation crap she's been through. Jason Todd has called him out on his moral selfishness.



* In The ''Comicbook/{{Incredible Hulk}}'' #319, General Ross comes in to stop the wedding between Bruce Banner and Betty Ross. After he accidentally shoots Rick Jones, Betty calls him a stupid, miserable, interfering, old fool. And that's not all--she also calls him out for being less of a parent and more of a strict, tyrannical bully, and says that the real reason why Ross didn't like Bruce (even before Bruce became the Hulk) was because Bruce was kinder and more supportive to Betty than her own father. Also Betty gave her father an awesome ultimatum: if he really wants keep Betty away from Bruce, then he has to kill her. Of course he doesn't do it and instead breaks down emotionally while Bruce and Betty finally get married.

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In The ''Comicbook/{{Incredible Hulk}}'' #319, General Ross comes in to stop the wedding between Bruce Banner and Betty Ross. After he accidentally shoots Rick Jones, Betty calls him a stupid, miserable, interfering, old fool. And that's not all--she also calls him out for being less of a parent and more of a strict, tyrannical bully, and says that the real reason why Ross didn't like Bruce (even before Bruce became the Hulk) was because Bruce was kinder and more supportive to Betty than her own father. Also Betty gave her father an awesome ultimatum: if he really wants keep Betty away from Bruce, then he has to kill her. Of course he doesn't do it and instead breaks down emotionally while Bruce and Betty finally get married.



* This is the entire driving motivation for Jesse Custer in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'', except instead of calling out his father, he wants to call out [[RageAgainstTheHeavens the Father of all Creation]].
** It's true that the overall RageAgainstTheHeavens plot of ''Preacher'' fits this trope, but long before the end of the series there's another example of it. Jesse had a great, happy childhood until he was around six or maybe even younger, when Jesse's father was killed in front of his eyes [[BigScrewedUpFamily by Jesse's uncle Jody]]. Jody raised Jesse brutally for the rest of his childhood, also taking Jesse's mother aside to shoot her and using horrific child abuse. All this is revealed in the third or fourth story arc of the series, and by the end of it [[spoiler: Jesse has finally killed Jody and everyone else on that side of the family responsible for his misery]].

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This is the entire driving motivation for Jesse Custer in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'', Custer, except instead of calling out his father, he wants to call out [[RageAgainstTheHeavens the Father of all Creation]].
** It's true that the overall RageAgainstTheHeavens plot of ''Preacher'' fits this trope, but long before the end of the series there's another example of it. Jesse had a great, happy childhood until he was around six or maybe even younger, when Jesse's father was killed in front of his eyes [[BigScrewedUpFamily by Jesse's uncle Jody]]. Jody raised Jesse brutally for the rest of his childhood, also taking Jesse's mother aside to shoot her and using horrific child abuse. All this is revealed in the third or fourth story arc of the series, and by the end of it [[spoiler: Jesse has finally killed Jody and everyone else on that side of the family responsible for his misery]].



** This trope also plays part in the origin of ComicBook/DoctorOctopus. His [[MyBelovedSmother overprotective mother]] forced Otto Octavius to break off his engagement to take care of her, only for Otto to discover her going out on a date. Enraged, he finally stood up to her and called her out, leading to her having a fatal heart attack in shock that her boy did that. The emotional duress Otto had from all of this lead to him not catching the warning signs his experiment was going wrong and exploding.

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** * This trope also plays part in the origin of ComicBook/DoctorOctopus. His [[MyBelovedSmother overprotective mother]] forced Otto Octavius to break off his engagement to take care of her, only for Otto to discover her going out on a date. Enraged, he finally stood up to her and called her out, leading to her having a fatal heart attack in shock that her boy did that. The emotional duress Otto had from all of this lead to him not catching the warning signs his experiment was going wrong and exploding.



* ''Comicbook/XMen'': [[ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} Scott Summers]]' father Christopher aka Corsair was abducted by aliens when he and his brother were fairly young; when Dad showed up many years later, Scott vented his displeasure that a) he hadn't bothered to come back and look for them earlier, despite having plenty of opportunity, and b) he'd become a ruthless [[SpacePirates space pirate]] in the interim. The [[WesternAnimation/XMen animated series]] used a similar storyline, with even more shouting on Scott's part.

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[[ComicBook/{{Cyclops}} Scott Summers]]' father Christopher aka Corsair was abducted by aliens when he and his brother were fairly young; when Dad showed up many years later, Scott vented his displeasure that a) he hadn't bothered to come back and look for them earlier, despite having plenty of opportunity, and b) he'd become a ruthless [[SpacePirates space pirate]] in the interim. The [[WesternAnimation/XMen animated series]] used a similar storyline, with even more shouting on Scott's part.



* In ''[[ComicBook/XMen Astonishing X-Men]]'' Cyclops "fires" Professor X after he finds out that Xavier knew the whole time that the Danger Room had become sentient, and that he continued to use her (and keep the secret to himself).

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* In ''[[ComicBook/XMen Astonishing X-Men]]'' X-Men]]'', Cyclops "fires" Professor X after he finds out that Xavier knew the whole time that the Danger Room had become sentient, and that he continued to use her (and keep the secret to himself).



* As mentioned above in the "Anime and Manga" section, Gendo never got called out by his son, Shinji, in the original Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion. This is ''Not'' the case in quite a few Fan Works.
** ''Fanfic/TheChildOfLove'': In the sequel, Shinji calls Gendo out on lying about destroying all Yuiís pictures and then Shinji says after everything Gendo has done to him and his family he wants nothing of him.

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* As mentioned above in the "Anime and Manga" section, Gendo never got called out by his son, Shinji, in the original Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion. ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. This is ''Not'' ''not'' the case in quite a few Fan Works.
** ''Fanfic/TheChildOfLove'': In the sequel, ''Fanfic/TheChildOfLove'', Shinji calls Gendo out on lying about destroying all Yuiís pictures and then Shinji says after everything Gendo has done to him and his family he wants nothing of him.



*** And in chapter 11 Shinji explodes in public:

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*** And in In chapter 11 Shinji explodes in public:



* [[OriginalCharacter Langxue]] does this to Iroh in the ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' fanfic ''Fanfic/{{Embers}}'', in proxy for Zuko, over how Iroh's well-intentioned but ultimately misinformed actions are just causing more and more problems for Zuko.
** Unfortunately for Iroh, he doesn't take it to heart, and the results are an implicit disowning by Zuko in chapter 85.
*** In chapter 88, ''Aang'' does this to the whole White Lotus, calling them out on various inefficiencies of theirs -- Bumi's stupid tests that accomplished nothing when he could have directly helped Aang by being straightforward, Pakku over his refusal to train Katara (something that came back to bite them both in the fanfic), Iroh refusing to trust that his nephew's trust of Iroh could have led to Zuko making a HeelFaceTurn if Iroh had just been honest about why Zuko's loyalty to Ozai is misplaced...

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[[OriginalCharacter Langxue]] does this to Iroh in the ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' fanfic ''Fanfic/{{Embers}}'', Iroh, in proxy for Zuko, over how Iroh's well-intentioned but ultimately misinformed actions are just causing more and more problems for Zuko.
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Zuko. Unfortunately for Iroh, he doesn't take it to heart, and the results are an implicit disowning by Zuko in chapter 85.
*** ** In chapter 88, ''Aang'' does this to the whole White Lotus, calling them out on various inefficiencies of theirs -- Bumi's stupid tests that accomplished nothing when he could have directly helped Aang by being straightforward, Pakku over his refusal to train Katara (something that came back to bite them both in the fanfic), Iroh refusing to trust that his nephew's trust of Iroh could have led to Zuko making a HeelFaceTurn if Iroh had just been honest about why Zuko's loyalty to Ozai is misplaced...



* ''Fanfic/PastSins'' has a heartwrenching scene that plays with this trope...
* In [[http://percyjacksonfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Nine_Months Nine Months]], April does this to her mother, Artemis.

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* ''Fanfic/PastSins'' has a heartwrenching scene that plays with this trope...
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In [[http://percyjacksonfanfiction.wikia.com/wiki/Nine_Months Nine Months]], April does this to her mother, Artemis.



** Case in point ''Naruto: Asunder'' except to BOTH parents (the fourth was in a form of stasis until his spirit was returned to his body. Kushina was forcefully sent back to Whirlpool to make it a Plan B safe haven if Konoha gets trashed.). Naruto, to his credit, says he understands fully WHY they sealed the Kyuubi in him but while they (Minato and Kushina) try to justify their actions Naruto points out that A) His mom SHOULD HAVE fought harder to stay with Naruto B) Thanks to their [[SarcasmMode excellent parenting]], he doesn't understand the concept of love in any form C) His life was shit because of what they did. Naruto even questions why the 4th didn't let the 3rd seal the Kyuubi, only for the 4th to say it was his burden to bear. Naruto FLIPS, calls bullshit and says the 3rd would've been happy to save the village. Naruto ends off saying that they shouldn't have had him if they were going to give him up and "It doesn't matter if you're back. I made it fine without you and still don't need you. Don't bother me again.". Even at the end of the story Naruto never forgives them but extends a "I don't completely hate your guts" gesture.

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** Case in point ''Naruto: Asunder'' except to BOTH parents (the fourth was in a form of stasis until his spirit was returned to his body. Kushina was forcefully sent back to Whirlpool to make it a Plan B safe haven if Konoha gets trashed.). Naruto, to his credit, says he understands fully WHY they sealed the Kyuubi in him but while they (Minato and Kushina) try to justify their actions Naruto points out that A) His mom SHOULD HAVE fought harder to stay with Naruto B) Thanks to their [[SarcasmMode excellent parenting]], he doesn't understand the concept of love in any form C) His life was shit because of what they did. Naruto even questions why the 4th didn't let the 3rd seal the Kyuubi, only for the 4th to say it was his burden to bear. Naruto FLIPS, calls bullshit and says the 3rd would've been happy to save the village. Naruto ends off saying that they shouldn't have had him if they were going to give him up and "It doesn't matter if you're back. I made it fine without you and still don't need you. Don't bother me again.". Even at the end of the story Naruto never forgives them but extends a "I don't completely hate your guts" gesture.



* In ''FanFic/WhiteDevilOfTheMoon'', [[spoiler: Nanoha, who in this story is the reincarnation of Princess Serenity, calls out Queen Serenity for her lax attention in raising Princess Serenity, both as a mother and as a queen, saying that if she had prepared her for her duties better and not let her sneak away to Earth so much, Serenity might not have committed suicide upon Endymion's death. She also points out that there were several other possible negative outcomes to Serenity and Endymion's relationship, which Serenity did not foresee due to not being raised well.]]

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* In ''FanFic/WhiteDevilOfTheMoon'', [[spoiler: Nanoha, ''FanFic/WhiteDevilOfTheMoon'':
** [[spoiler:Nanoha,
who in this story is the reincarnation of Princess Serenity, calls out Queen Serenity for her lax attention in raising Princess Serenity, both as a mother and as a queen, saying that if she had prepared her for her duties better and not let her sneak away to Earth so much, Serenity might not have committed suicide upon Endymion's death. She also points out that there were several other possible negative outcomes to Serenity and Endymion's relationship, which Serenity did not foresee due to not being raised well.]]



-->'''Akio''': The only one here thatís a disgrace here is you, Nishizumi. Victory or nothing? If that was true, wouldnít Mahoís defeat have been enough for you to give her a chance? Miho is twice the tank commander you ever were Shiho.Ē
-->'''Shiho''': I will not be spoken to in such a fashion!
-->'''Akio''': Itís the only fashion you deserve to be spoken to. Sensha-do isnít just about victory. Itís about camaraderie and friendship. Miho faced your team outnumbered more than two to one and she won. With her leadership a team made up of inferior tanks bested yours with their King Tigers, Maus, and Panthers. She beat Maho herself in a singular duel with a Panzer IV. Why are you punishing her for doing well?
-->'''Shiho''': [[ShutUpKirk That is not what Sensha-do is about, little boy]]!
-->'''Akio''': [[GetOut GET OUT]]! If [[spoiler:youíre not claiming her as your daughter]] you have no right to be here.

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-->'''Akio''': --->'''Akio''': The only one here thatís a disgrace here is you, Nishizumi. Victory or nothing? If that was true, wouldnít Mahoís defeat have been enough for you to give her a chance? Miho is twice the tank commander you ever were Shiho.Ē
-->'''Shiho''': --->'''Shiho''': I will not be spoken to in such a fashion!
-->'''Akio''': --->'''Akio''': Itís the only fashion you deserve to be spoken to. Sensha-do isnít just about victory. Itís about camaraderie and friendship. Miho faced your team outnumbered more than two to one and she won. With her leadership a team made up of inferior tanks bested yours with their King Tigers, Maus, and Panthers. She beat Maho herself in a singular duel with a Panzer IV. Why are you punishing her for doing well?
-->'''Shiho''': --->'''Shiho''': [[ShutUpKirk That is not what Sensha-do is about, little boy]]!
-->'''Akio''': --->'''Akio''': [[GetOut GET OUT]]! If [[spoiler:youíre not claiming her as your daughter]] you have no right to be here.



* Happens in the sixth flashback chapter ([[{{Doorstopper}} forty-sixth overall]]) of FanFic/TheTwilightChild, when the main character finally snaps at her mother. Neither of them were on a good basis with each other anyway, but from thereon out neither speaks to each other until the very end of the story. Even worse since the mother is actually trying to get on with her daughter. The name of this person? [[spoiler:Twilight Sparkle.]]

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* Happens in the sixth flashback chapter ([[{{Doorstopper}} forty-sixth overall]]) of FanFic/TheTwilightChild, ''FanFic/TheTwilightChild'', when the main character finally snaps at her mother. Neither of them were on a good basis with each other anyway, but from thereon out neither speaks to each other until the very end of the story. Even worse since the mother is actually trying to get on with her daughter. The name of this person? [[spoiler:Twilight Sparkle.]]



* Stephanie Brown's argument with Batman in Fanfic/AngelOfTheBat deconstructing his claim that he "thought she was alive" after the events of War Games just reeks of this, though she does bitterly point out that he can't be her old man, since no matter how hard she tried, he never let her into his family.

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* Stephanie Brown's argument with Batman in Fanfic/AngelOfTheBat ''Fanfic/AngelOfTheBat'' deconstructing his claim that he "thought she was alive" after the events of War Games just reeks of this, though she does bitterly point out that he can't be her old man, since no matter how hard she tried, he never let her into his family.



** The fanfic comic [[http://miyukey.deviantart.com/gallery/60808776/ML-comic-DOWN Down]] features Adrien, who has had his confession to Ladybug thrown in his face and Alya and Marinette ignoring and avoiding him with the former throwing him a DeathGlare every chance she gets, finally snapping when his father scolds him for making him look bad and launching into one of these speeches, including claiming his MissingMom was right to call Gabriel "a selfish bastard who doesn't need a family". [[NotHelpingYourCase Gabriel slaps Adrien to shut him up]] and while he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone immediately regrets it and tries to apologize]], [[BreakTheCutie Adrien is broken and no longer has any energy to stand up for himself]], [[IHaveNoSon though in a second shorter example of this trope, he pointedly reframes his relationship with Gabriel as that of employee/employer rather than father/son.]]

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** * The fanfic comic [[http://miyukey.deviantart.com/gallery/60808776/ML-comic-DOWN Down]] features Adrien, who has had his confession to Ladybug thrown in his face and Alya and Marinette ignoring and avoiding him with the former throwing him a DeathGlare every chance she gets, finally snapping when his father scolds him for making him look bad and launching into one of these speeches, including claiming his MissingMom was right to call Gabriel "a selfish bastard who doesn't need a family". [[NotHelpingYourCase Gabriel slaps Adrien to shut him up]] and while he [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone immediately regrets it and tries to apologize]], [[BreakTheCutie Adrien is broken and no longer has any energy to stand up for himself]], [[IHaveNoSon though in a second shorter example of this trope, he pointedly reframes his relationship with Gabriel as that of employee/employer rather than father/son.]]



** Kovu also calls his mother Zira out after she holds him responsible for the death of his brother Nuka.
-->'''Kovu:''' I did nothing!\\

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** Kovu also calls his mother Zira out after she holds him responsible for the death of his brother Nuka.
-->'''Kovu:''' --->'''Kovu:''' I did nothing!\\



* ''Film/TheAddamsFamily'': Used with Fester/Gordon after his [[spoiler:fake]] mother pushes him just a little too far....

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* %%* ''Film/TheAddamsFamily'': Used with Fester/Gordon after his [[spoiler:fake]] mother pushes him just a little too far....



* Film/BeyondTheLights: After bottling up her emotions for years and even attempting suicide rather than actually address it, Noni finally calls her mother out on being a micromanaging, [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]], StageMom. She isn't wrong and her mother slaps her in frustration.

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* Film/BeyondTheLights: ''Film/BeyondTheLights'': After bottling up her emotions for years and even attempting suicide rather than actually address it, Noni finally calls her mother out on being a micromanaging, [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]], StageMom. She isn't wrong and her mother slaps her in frustration.



* ''Franchise/StarWars'': The whole issue of "Jedi truths" ought to count.

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* %%* ''Franchise/StarWars'': The whole issue of "Jedi truths" ought to count.truths".



* William de Worde does this to his father at the end of the Literature/{{Discworld}} novel ''Discworld/TheTruth''.
* ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''

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* %%* William de Worde does this to his father at the end of the Literature/{{Discworld}} ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'' novel ''Discworld/TheTruth''.
* ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'':



** In ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]]''

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** In ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheDeathlyHallows Deathly Hallows]]'' Hallows]]'':



*** He also gets to call out [[spoiler:Dumbledore again, when they meet in Harry's [[ItMakesSenseInContext dreamworld limbo train station]]]], towards the end of the book.

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*** He also Harry gets to call out [[spoiler:Dumbledore again, when they meet in Harry's [[ItMakesSenseInContext dreamworld limbo train station]]]], towards the end of the book.



* ''Literature/TheMortalInstruments'':
** For the entire duration of Jocelyn's kidnapping and subsequent coma, Clary is completely devoted to bringing her back. When Jocelyn finally is cured and returned, the very first thing Clary does is tear into her for depriving Clary of her Sight and not preparing her for the Shadowhunters' world.

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* ''Literature/TheMortalInstruments'':
**
''Literature/TheMortalInstruments'': For the entire duration of Jocelyn's kidnapping and subsequent coma, Clary is completely devoted to bringing her back. When Jocelyn finally is cured and returned, the very first thing Clary does is tear into her for depriving Clary of her Sight and not preparing her for the Shadowhunters' world.



* In ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'', Luke is...very ticked with his father.

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* In ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'', ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'':
**
Luke is...very ticked with his father.
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* In ''Series/HouseOfAnubis'', Eddie did this to Mr. Sweet when the audience learned they are his father. He felt abandoned and unwanted, and at first refused to see him as a father at all. They made up later though, but Eddie got upset once again when he realized secrets were still being kept.
** Jerome also had a minor one when meeting his father in jail, getting angry at first and saying he didn't want to talk to him. Like Eddie and Mr. Sweet, he and his father soon made up and got closer.

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* In ''Series/HouseOfAnubis'', ''Series/HouseOfAnubis'':
**
Eddie did this to Mr. Sweet when the audience learned they are his father. He felt abandoned and unwanted, and at first refused to see him as a father at all. They made up later though, but Eddie got upset once again when he realized secrets were still being kept.
** Jerome also had has a minor one when meeting his father in jail, getting angry at first and saying he didn't want to talk to him. Like Eddie and Mr. Sweet, he and his father soon made up and got closer.



* Sawyer unknowingly does this for Locke's father in ''Series/{{Lost}}'' which culminates in [[spoiler:Sawyer killing him]]. When Sawyer learns of this revelation, he finds out that's precisely why Locke wanted him to meet him since the man had done terrible wrongs of the same nature to the both of them.

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* ''Series/{{Lost}}'':
**
Sawyer unknowingly does this for Locke's father in ''Series/{{Lost}}'' father, which culminates in [[spoiler:Sawyer killing him]]. When Sawyer learns of this revelation, he finds out that's precisely why Locke wanted him to meet him since the man had done terrible wrongs of the same nature to the both of them.



** Later on, Sun does this to her father, chewing him out for his treatment of her husband. She also informed him that she had bought a controlling share in his company.

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** Later on, Sun does this to her father, chewing him out for his treatment of her husband. She also informed him that she had bought a controlling share in his company.



* ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle''. Francis's final words to Lois before moving to Alaska were nothing short of hateful.
** Hal also berates his dad. It starts out with how his entire family is being horrible to Lois at his dad's party and and his dad is doing nothing about it. It then extends to how his dad doing nothing is a running theme; while his dad was always joking around with him, they never had an emotionally close relationship because of this. He goes on to list problems he had while growing up that were made worse because they were ignored (Interestingly, Hal himself ignored one of these same problems in Francis, Reese, and Malcolm just a few episodes before.).

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* ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle''. ''Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle'':
**
Francis's final words to Lois before moving to Alaska were nothing short of hateful.
** Hal also berates his dad. It starts out with how his entire family is being horrible to Lois at his dad's party and and his dad is doing nothing about it. It then extends to how his dad doing nothing is a running theme; while his dad was always joking around with him, they never had an emotionally close relationship because of this. He goes on to list problems he had while growing up that were made worse because they were ignored (Interestingly, Hal himself ignored one of these same problems in Francis, Reese, and Malcolm just a few episodes before.).



* ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' -- Cementing his status as PapaWolf to his team, episode 7x12, "Flesh and Blood" features Gibbs calling out the elder Anthony [=DiNozzo=], on Tony's behalf. Specifically for one incident, and implicitly for a lifetime of neglect.

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* ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' -- ''Series/{{NCIS}}'':
**
Cementing his status as PapaWolf to his team, episode 7x12, "Flesh and Blood" features Gibbs calling out the elder Anthony [=DiNozzo=], on Tony's behalf. Specifically for one incident, and implicitly for a lifetime of neglect.



** [[spoiler:He also does this for Ziva, although he delivers the speech to a messenger instead of her actual father.]]
** And now, as of season 10, Gibbs has called out [[spoiler:[=McGee=]'s father]], a Navy Admiral who was up for a Presidential cabinet post and seemed to have little problem being verbally demeaning to [[spoiler:Tim]] right in front of Gibbs. Ever the PapaWolf, Gibbs finally told the man rather scathingly what he thought of him.

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** [[spoiler:He also Gibbs does this for Ziva, [[spoiler:Ziva]], although he delivers the speech to a messenger instead of her actual father.]]
father.
** And now, as As of season 10, Gibbs has called out [[spoiler:[=McGee=]'s father]], a Navy Admiral who was up for a Presidential cabinet post and seemed to have little problem being verbally demeaning to [[spoiler:Tim]] right in front of Gibbs. Ever the PapaWolf, Gibbs finally told the man rather scathingly what he thought of him.



** Then Baelfire/[[spoiler: Neal]] does this to his father later in the season.

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** Then Baelfire/[[spoiler: Neal]] %%** Baelfire/[[spoiler:Neal]] does this to his father later in the season.father.



* Lex Luthor does this to Lionel every other Sunday in ''Series/{{Smallville}}''. Well, he did it before he [[spoiler:threw the old man out a window.]] The Voice of Jor-El's been called out a few times as well, both by Clark and by Jonathan on Clark's behalf.

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* ''Series/{{Smallville}}'':
**
Lex Luthor does this to Lionel every other Sunday in ''Series/{{Smallville}}''.Sunday. Well, he did it before he [[spoiler:threw the old man out a window.]] The Voice of Jor-El's been called out a few times as well, both by Clark and by Jonathan on Clark's behalf.



* Subverted in ''Series/TheSopranos'': After Tony finds out that mother [[spoiler: tried to have him killed]], he goes to her retirement home to Call The Old Woman Out, only to find that [[spoiler: she's had a stress-induced stroke, and is probably unable to consciously hear any of his rage-fueled confrontation.]]
** This continues in later seasons, as Tony tries to call her out more than once about her [[spoiler: attempt at killing him, and the heaps of psychological abuse she's put on him and his family over the years. Each attempt never comes to any kind of definitive resolution of their issues]]. In the end, [[spoiler: she dies at the beginning of the third season, leaving Tony psychologically scarred with no clear picture or resolution of his feelings of his mother, and this affects him for years afterwards]].

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* Subverted in ''Series/TheSopranos'': After Tony finds out that mother [[spoiler: tried to have him killed]], he goes to her retirement home to Call The Old Woman Out, only to find that [[spoiler: she's had a stress-induced stroke, and is probably unable to consciously hear any of his rage-fueled confrontation.]]
**
]] This continues in later seasons, as Tony tries to call her out more than once about her [[spoiler: attempt at killing him, and the heaps of psychological abuse she's put on him and his family over the years. Each attempt never comes to any kind of definitive resolution of their issues]]. In the end, [[spoiler: she dies at the beginning of the third season, leaving Tony psychologically scarred with no clear picture or resolution of his feelings of his mother, and this affects him for years afterwards]].



* On ''Series/That70sShow'', Eric gets one when he finally stands up to his overbearing father Red, who is particularly bitter over having sold his Corvette to raise money for what he thinks is his wife Kitty's pregnancy, only to realize he did it for nothing when Kitty's actually going through menopause. After Red snaps at Eric one too many times, Eric finally loses his temper and tears a strip off Red for whining about losing his Corvette, when Kitty is extremely upset and needs his support. Eric concludes by reminding Red of all the times he'd told Eric to "be a man", and then tells Red to practice what he preaches and "be a man" for his wife.
** Also, when Hyde's father comes back to town. Hyde eventually calls him out on abandoning him, but it's subverted when he readily acknowledges that he pulled a dick move. It ends with them calmly discussing it over a beer, then getting smashed.
* Done for laughs on ''Series/{{Titus}}''. Titus has a flashback, when he tried to do the 'coming of age' thing by picking a fight with his father. Cut to the 'fist cam' of dad knocking Titus on his ass. Dad happens to be played by Stacy Keach. If you have ever seen the film ''The Ninth Configuration'', you know what a bad idea it is to mess with 'Killer Kaine'.
** Having seen his run as ''Mike Hammer'', it always was a bad, bad idea.
*** The source material lampshades [[BullyingADragon just how bad an idea this was]].
---->'''Titus''': Hi, you've just instigated your own mugging, come on down!
* [[spoiler:Suki]] does this to her father in ''TowerPrep''

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* On ''Series/That70sShow'', ''Series/That70sShow'':
**
Eric gets one when he finally stands up to his overbearing father Red, who is particularly bitter over having sold his Corvette to raise money for what he thinks is his wife Kitty's pregnancy, only to realize he did it for nothing when Kitty's actually going through menopause. After Red snaps at Eric one too many times, Eric finally loses his temper and tears a strip off Red for whining about losing his Corvette, when Kitty is extremely upset and needs his support. Eric concludes by reminding Red of all the times he'd told Eric to "be a man", and then tells Red to practice what he preaches and "be a man" for his wife.
** Also, when When Hyde's father comes back to town. Hyde eventually calls him out on abandoning him, but it's subverted when he readily acknowledges that he pulled a dick move. It ends with them calmly discussing it over a beer, then getting smashed.
* Done for laughs on ''Series/{{Titus}}''. Titus has a flashback, when he tried to do the 'coming of age' thing by picking a fight with his father. Cut to the 'fist cam' of dad knocking Titus on his ass. Dad happens to be played by Stacy Keach. If you have ever seen the film ''The Ninth Configuration'', you know what a bad idea it is to mess with 'Killer Kaine'.
**
Kaine'. Having seen his run as ''Mike Hammer'', it always was a bad, bad idea.
***
idea. The source material lampshades [[BullyingADragon just how bad an idea this was]].
---->'''Titus''': -->'''Titus''': Hi, you've just instigated your own mugging, come on down!
* [[spoiler:Suki]] does this to her father in ''TowerPrep''''Series/TowerPrep'':



* In a surprisingly serious moment in an otherwise pretty funny episode of a pretty funny series, Charlie of ''Series/TwoAndAHalfMen'', having been bugged all day by his mother to try and get him to tell her why he hates her, finally calls out his mother on how horrible she was to him and Alan and blames her for their father's death. Evelyn, true to character, acts as if Charlie is being a whiny brat and walks out.
** This trope becomes a major plot point in a later episode, where Evelyn makes Jake uncertain about his abilities after getting his first (and only) A on a test. Alan, having enough, manages to tell her off, saying that she doesn't want her to do to Jake what she did to him and Charlie.
-->'''Evelyn''': What did I ever do to you and Charlie?
-->'''Alan''': What did you do- what did she- Charlie, tell her!
-->'''Charlie''': Why tell her when we can show her?

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* In a surprisingly serious moment in an otherwise pretty funny episode of a pretty funny series, Charlie of ''Series/TwoAndAHalfMen'', ''Series/TwoAndAHalfMen'':
** Charlie,
having been bugged all day by his mother to try and get him to tell her why he hates her, finally calls out his mother on how horrible she was to him and Alan and blames her for their father's death. Evelyn, true to character, acts as if Charlie is being a whiny brat and walks out.
** This trope becomes a major plot point in a later episode, where when Evelyn makes Jake uncertain about his abilities after getting his first (and only) A on a test. Alan, having enough, manages to tell her off, saying that she doesn't want her to do to Jake what she did to him and Charlie.
-->'''Evelyn''': --->'''Evelyn''': What did I ever do to you and Charlie?
-->'''Alan''': --->'''Alan''': What did you do- what did she- Charlie, tell her!
-->'''Charlie''': --->'''Charlie''': Why tell her when we can show her?



* The whole point of Everclear's "Father of Mine."

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* %%* The whole point of Everclear's "Father of Mine."



* The ''TabletopGame/HorusHeresy'', where Calling The Old Man Out resulted in a galaxy-splitting civil war which left trillions dead, trapped a comatose CrystalDragonJesus on life support, and started ten thousand years of the worst regime imaginable as mankind slowly shudders its way towards extinction. Never let it be said that ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' does anything by halves.
** Well, it does a few people by halves, but only after the [[ChainsawGood chainswords]] have been shut down.

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* The ''TabletopGame/HorusHeresy'', where Calling The Old Man Out resulted in a galaxy-splitting civil war which left trillions dead, trapped a comatose CrystalDragonJesus on life support, and started ten thousand years of the worst regime imaginable as mankind slowly shudders its way towards extinction. Never let it be said that ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' does anything by halves.\n** Well, it does a few people by halves, but only after the [[ChainsawGood chainswords]] have been shut down.



** He's not the only one. [[spoiler:His brother Larry does it posthumously. In his last letter to Ann, he asks her not to wait for him if he is reported missing because he will commit suicide since he cannot live with what his father had done.]] This is the final straw that breaks Joe Keller [[spoiler:leading to his own suicide.]]

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** He's not the only one. [[spoiler:His brother Larry [[spoiler:Larry does it posthumously. In his last letter to Ann, he asks her not to wait for him if he is reported missing because he will commit suicide since he cannot live with what his father had done.]] This is the final straw that breaks Joe Keller [[spoiler:leading to his own suicide.]]



* ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'':
** Hamlet absolutely rips his mother to shreds for her quasi-incestuous ways.
---> '''Hamlet:''' Now, mother, what's the matter?\\

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* ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'':
**
''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}'': Hamlet absolutely rips his mother to shreds for her quasi-incestuous ways.
---> --> '''Hamlet:''' Now, mother, what's the matter?\\



'''Hamlet:''' Mother, ''you'' have ''my'' father much offended.
** And again, a few lines later:
---> '''Gertrude:''' Have you forgotten me?\\

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'''Hamlet:''' Mother, ''you'' have ''my'' father much offended.
** And again, a few lines later:
--->
offended.\\\
'''Gertrude:''' Have you forgotten me?\\



* Jude in ''{{Agarest Senki 2}}'' does this to his father Jainus calling him on his ChronicHeroSyndrome when he offers to help Yumil. While Jude says he has no problem helping Yumil, he tells his dad that they can't go risking their necks for a job (they're mercenaries) that either doesn't pay or pays little as they are working to support Chloe (Jainus' wife) and can't afford to play hero.

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* Jude in ''{{Agarest ''VideoGame/{{Agarest Senki 2}}'' does this to his father Jainus calling him on his ChronicHeroSyndrome when he offers to help Yumil. While Jude says he has no problem helping Yumil, he tells his dad that they can't go risking their necks for a job (they're mercenaries) that either doesn't pay or pays little as they are working to support Chloe (Jainus' wife) and can't afford to play hero.



* Franchise/DragonAge:
** In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'', Dorian's entire personal quest revolves around confronting his father for [[spoiler:trying to change his sexuality with blood magic,]] in order to better fit with the Tevinter idea of perfection. It's up to the player if Dorian leaves it at that after his callout, or if he decides to try and reconcile with his father.
--->'''Halward:''' I only wanted what was best for you!\\

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* Franchise/DragonAge:
''Franchise/DragonAge'':
** In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'', ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'':
***
Dorian's entire personal quest revolves around confronting his father for [[spoiler:trying to change his sexuality with blood magic,]] in order to better fit with the Tevinter idea of perfection. It's up to the player if Dorian leaves it at that after his callout, or if he decides to try and reconcile with his father.
--->'''Halward:''' ---->'''Halward:''' I only wanted what was best for you!\\



** [[spoiler:Morrigan]] of all people gets an absolutely heartwrenching one in in the same game, provided that you [[spoiler: imported a world state where Kieren has the Old God Soul. When Flemeth leads Kieren into the Fade, Morrigan is more [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness fearful and desperate than at any other point in the series]], but that doesn't stop her from trying to defend herself and her son, or calling her mother out on her horrible parenting and body-snatching tendencies. Doubles as a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, because the player gets to see that she truly does care about her son, beyond whatever ambiguous power he is said to have.]]
---> [[spoiler:'''Morrigan:''' [[CharacterDevelopment I am many things, but I will not be the mother you were to me]].]]

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** *** [[spoiler:Morrigan]] of all people gets an absolutely heartwrenching one in in the same game, one, provided that you [[spoiler: imported a world state where Kieren has the Old God Soul. When Flemeth leads Kieren into the Fade, Morrigan is more [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness fearful and desperate than at any other point in the series]], but that doesn't stop her from trying to defend herself and her son, or calling her mother out on her horrible parenting and body-snatching tendencies. Doubles as a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming, because the The player gets to see that she truly does care about her son, beyond whatever ambiguous power he is said to have.]]
---> [[spoiler:'''Morrigan:''' ----> '''[[spoiler:Morrigan]]:''' [[CharacterDevelopment I am many things, but I will not be the mother you were to me]].]]



* You have exactly one chance to do this in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' after rescuing your father from Tranquility lane, but disappointingly it changes nothing.
** This is chiefly due to the disappointingly small range of dialogue options that would allow you to truly Call The Old Man Out. You're never able to mention that his leaving created too much turmoil and danger for you to remain in Vault 101 as he intended and the option that comes closest requires you to have performed one of the game's more evil acts [[spoiler:(blowing up Megaton)]], which allows your father to maintain the moral high ground. Similarly, you're unable to explain to Doctor Li why you left the Vault against James' wishes, except with a childish "I do what I want" kind of answer.
** You can also do this when talking to Sentinel Cross. She calls you an UngratefulBastard and is so offended she will not be your companion.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'':
**
You have exactly one chance to do this in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'' after rescuing your father from Tranquility lane, but disappointingly it changes nothing.
**
nothing. This is chiefly due to the disappointingly small range of dialogue options that would allow you to truly Call The Old Man Out. You're never able to mention that his leaving created too much turmoil and danger for you to remain in Vault 101 as he intended and the option that comes closest requires you to have performed one of the game's more evil acts [[spoiler:(blowing up Megaton)]], which allows your father to maintain the moral high ground. Similarly, you're unable to explain to Doctor Li why you left the Vault against James' wishes, except with a childish "I do what I want" kind of answer.
** You can also do this when talking to Sentinel Cross. She calls you an UngratefulBastard and is so offended she will not be your companion.



** ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'' changes their dynamic a bit; Jecht is more or less something of a PosthumousCharacter (kind of, it's complicated) in ''Final Fantasy X'', but in Dissidia, he's fully alive and his normal self. Tidus's showdown with Jecht has Jecht initially beating the tar out of Tidus, only for Tidus to recover and yell, "There's no tomorrow for me until I beat you today!" It's actually pretty cool.
*** Before the fight he did get the chance to call him a "no good, self-centered old bastard."
*** And his antagonistic relationship with his father is never actually explained in ''Dissidia'', beyond the need to settle things with Jecht. It's unclear if it's a case of hatred and loathing or anger at living in the old man's shadow and disgust at his father's being manipulated.

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** ''VideoGame/DissidiaFinalFantasy'' changes their dynamic a bit; Jecht is more or less something of a PosthumousCharacter (kind of, it's complicated) in ''Final Fantasy X'', but in Dissidia, he's fully alive and his normal self. Tidus's showdown with Jecht has Jecht initially beating the tar out of Tidus, only for Tidus to recover and yell, "There's no tomorrow for me until I beat you today!" It's actually pretty cool.
***
Before the fight he did get the chance to call him a "no good, self-centered old bastard."
***
" And his antagonistic relationship with his father is never actually explained in ''Dissidia'', beyond the need to settle things with Jecht. It's unclear if it's a case of hatred and loathing or anger at living in the old man's shadow and disgust at his father's being manipulated.



* In [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Seisen no Keifu]], there are many examples:

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* In [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Seisen no Keifu]], there are many examples:Keifu]]'':



* In the last chapter of ''VideoGame/MaxPayne2'', checking Senator Woden's phone messages will reveal a recent one where Vlad, who saw Woden as a father figure, rants about having never received a word of thanks from him. [[spoiler:This is a rather extreme example of the trope, as Vlad was planning to kill Woden.]]
** Vlad is also pretty egotistical about it. "Would it have killed you to say 'thank you' for once in your life? 'Vlad, my son--can I call you my son, because I sure do love you like one. Vlad, my son, you are a true prodigy. Everything you touch turns to gold!'"
* Oswald does this to Odin at the end of the first episode of ''VideoGame/OdinSphere''.

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* In the last chapter of ''VideoGame/MaxPayne2'', ''VideoGame/MaxPayne2'':, checking Senator Woden's phone messages will reveal a recent one where Vlad, who saw Woden as a father figure, rants about having never received a word of thanks from him. [[spoiler:This is a rather extreme example of the trope, as Vlad was planning to kill Woden.]]
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]] Vlad is also pretty egotistical about it. "Would it have killed you to say 'thank you' for once in your life? 'Vlad, my son--can I call you my son, because I sure do love you like one. Vlad, my son, you are a true prodigy. Everything you touch turns to gold!'"
* ''VideoGame/OdinSphere'':
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Oswald does this to Odin at the end of the first episode of ''VideoGame/OdinSphere''.episode.



*** Cornelius arguably has a moment like this with his dad: [[spoiler:After one royal blunder too many, King Edmund tries to abdicate the throne and give the crown to his son. Cornelius tells him that he can't - the people will never accept a cursed Pooka as their king - and while Edmund never deserved the crown in the first place, now is the time for him to stop being a coward and act like a true ruler.]]

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*** ** Cornelius arguably has a moment like this with his dad: [[spoiler:After one royal blunder too many, King Edmund tries to abdicate the throne and give the crown to his son. Cornelius tells him that he can't - the people will never accept a cursed Pooka as their king - and while Edmund never deserved the crown in the first place, now is the time for him to stop being a coward and act like a true ruler.]]



** Also in VideoGame/Persona4, near the end of Dojima's [[RelationshipUpgrade Social Link]], you, as the PlayerCharacter and provided your courage parameters are high enough, have a dialogue option to call him a coward for his inability to interact with his daughter Nanako, following her mother's death. He calls you a punk for doing so, but nonetheless agrees with you.

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** Also in VideoGame/Persona4, * In ''VideoGame/Persona4'', near the end of Dojima's [[RelationshipUpgrade Social Link]], you, as the PlayerCharacter and provided your courage parameters are high enough, have a dialogue option to call him a coward for his inability to interact with his daughter Nanako, following her mother's death. He calls you a punk for doing so, but nonetheless agrees with you.



** [[spoiler:Lillie]] to [[spoiler:her and Gladion's mother, Lusamine]] late in ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'', laying out every horrible thing the character in question has done.

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** * [[spoiler:Lillie]] to [[spoiler:her and Gladion's mother, Lusamine]] late in ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'', laying out every horrible thing the character in question has done.
30th Jul '17 1:26:00 PM TallTroper
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* After taking his own measures to be more proactive following his cannonical 5th year, Harry gives a royal one to Dumbledore in [[https://m.fanfiction.net/s/1657629/26/Harry-Potter-and The Power of Time]], when the latter still tries to meddle in his life for his ''own good." Harry then proceeds to go on a royal rant, pointing out Dumbledore knew how the Dursleys treated him, but did nothing, robbing Harry of his childhood, only to still send him back to the same environment year after year, (made worse after the psychologically damaging deaths of Cedric and Sirius), kept information about Harry's family from him, (Harry's own classmates knew more than he did), and no faculty members were forthcoming), not standing up to Fudge in regards to Voldemort's resurrection, (Which could have prevented a lot of their current problems), as well as excusing Snape's hatred of him and abuse of other students. He finishes by asking why Dumbledore expects him to trust him after all that?
23rd Jul '17 4:56:33 AM BlackSwan81
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* Reversed in Genesis' "No Son of Mine". The song tells the story of a boy who runs away from home, and after some consideration attempts to return, only to be berated by his jerkass abusive father. [[note]]Phil Collins has said in interviews that the lyrics are deliberately vague as to whether the narrator or his mother is the victim of the abuse.[[/note]]

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* Reversed in Genesis' Music/{{Genesis}}' "No Son of Mine". The song tells the story of a boy who runs away from home, and after some consideration attempts to return, only to be berated by his jerkass abusive father. [[note]]Phil Collins has said in interviews that the lyrics are deliberately vague as to whether the narrator or his mother is the victim of the abuse.[[/note]]
8th Jul '17 7:11:24 PM AsleepInTheBooks
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* Despite the idea of God being a perfect being who knows how humanity should act, the Bible is full of people calling the old man out. Typically God will get angry, smite some people or send a calamity to punish them, and some human will demand to know just ''what'' the hell he thinks he's doing. Typically he responded by admitting he might have overreacted just a bit.
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