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3rd Jun '16 12:14:51 PM StarSword
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Compare TooKinkyToTorture, where someone is so tough that torture gets them off, and CombatSadomasochist. Contrast SafeSaneAndConsensual, CasualKink and the ObligatoryBondageSong. Note that is rapidly becoming a DiscreditedTrope -- with the rising mainstream acceptance of alternative sexualities using this trope straight will often raise the ire of many real life practitioners.

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Compare TooKinkyToTorture, where someone is so tough that torture gets them off, and CombatSadomasochist. Contrast SafeSaneAndConsensual, CasualKink and the ObligatoryBondageSong. Note that is rapidly becoming a DiscreditedTrope -- with the rising mainstream acceptance of alternative sexualities using this trope straight will often raise the ire of many real life practitioners.
practitioners. See also BrainsAndBondage, where highly intelligent characters have a taste for BDSM.
14th May '16 7:12:49 AM halcyonsMonolith
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Some media dress their villains up in "S&M gear" ([[IThoughtItMeant No, not that]] [[PokemonSunAndMoon S&M]]) in order to make them {{stripperiffic}} (because they're [[EvilIsSexy villains]], after all), and don't actually have them engage in BDSM. Depending on context, Bondage Is Bad is often a subtrope of SexIsEvil, EvilIsSexy, or both. If played straight, it's often reinforced with hints of PuttingOnTheReich or whatever. A woman dressed as a {{Dominatrix}} will often be portrayed as a villain in fiction -- or at least a violent type -- for this reason.

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Some media dress their villains up in "S&M gear" ([[IThoughtItMeant No, not that]] [[PokemonSunAndMoon [[VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon S&M]]) in order to make them {{stripperiffic}} (because they're [[EvilIsSexy villains]], after all), and don't actually have them engage in BDSM. Depending on context, Bondage Is Bad is often a subtrope of SexIsEvil, EvilIsSexy, or both. If played straight, it's often reinforced with hints of PuttingOnTheReich or whatever. A woman dressed as a {{Dominatrix}} will often be portrayed as a villain in fiction -- or at least a violent type -- for this reason.
14th May '16 7:12:08 AM halcyonsMonolith
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The use of a character's interest in BDSM (or similar) to reinforce the idea that they're evil ([[IThoughtItMeant no, not that]] [[PokemonSunAndMoon S&M]]), probably because of the ColdBloodedTorture symbolism. [[RuleOfCreepy Portraying]] them as [[UnsexySadist creepy and hideously unsexy]] can also ramp up the "ick" factor.

Some media dress their villains up in "S&M gear" in order to make them {{stripperiffic}} (because they're [[EvilIsSexy villains]], after all), and don't actually have them engage in BDSM. Depending on context, Bondage Is Bad is often a subtrope of SexIsEvil, EvilIsSexy, or both. If played straight, it's often reinforced with hints of PuttingOnTheReich or whatever. A woman dressed as a {{Dominatrix}} will often be portrayed as a villain in fiction -- or at least a violent type -- for this reason.

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The use of a character's interest in BDSM (or similar) to reinforce the idea that they're evil ([[IThoughtItMeant no, not that]] [[PokemonSunAndMoon S&M]]), evil, probably because of the ColdBloodedTorture symbolism. [[RuleOfCreepy Portraying]] them as [[UnsexySadist creepy and hideously unsexy]] can also ramp up the "ick" factor.

Some media dress their villains up in "S&M gear" ([[IThoughtItMeant No, not that]] [[PokemonSunAndMoon S&M]]) in order to make them {{stripperiffic}} (because they're [[EvilIsSexy villains]], after all), and don't actually have them engage in BDSM. Depending on context, Bondage Is Bad is often a subtrope of SexIsEvil, EvilIsSexy, or both. If played straight, it's often reinforced with hints of PuttingOnTheReich or whatever. A woman dressed as a {{Dominatrix}} will often be portrayed as a villain in fiction -- or at least a violent type -- for this reason.
14th May '16 7:11:37 AM halcyonsMonolith
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The use of a character's interest in BDSM (or similar) to reinforce the idea that they're evil, probably because of the ColdBloodedTorture symbolism. [[RuleOfCreepy Portraying]] them as [[UnsexySadist creepy and hideously unsexy]] can also ramp up the "ick" factor.

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The use of a character's interest in BDSM (or similar) to reinforce the idea that they're evil, evil ([[IThoughtItMeant no, not that]] [[PokemonSunAndMoon S&M]]), probably because of the ColdBloodedTorture symbolism. [[RuleOfCreepy Portraying]] them as [[UnsexySadist creepy and hideously unsexy]] can also ramp up the "ick" factor.
1st Apr '16 9:58:21 AM Willbyr
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* In the Impel Down arc of ''Main/OnePiece'', Sadi-Chan is one of the worst examples of this Trope. Her devil-themed {{Dominatrix}} outfit along with the whip gives the image, and she is clearly the most sadistic member of the prison staff, using bondage methods as ColdBloodedTorture on the inmates, often to death.
* ''Digimon'' gives us [=LadyDevimon=], an evil humanoid Digimon clad in skin-tight black leather and [[ChainedByFashion chains]]. [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids It is not hard to imagin what kind of data she spawned from…]]

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* In the Impel Down arc of ''Main/OnePiece'', ''Manga/OnePiece'', Sadi-Chan is one of the worst examples of this Trope. Her devil-themed {{Dominatrix}} outfit along with the whip gives the image, and she is clearly the most sadistic member of the prison staff, using bondage methods as ColdBloodedTorture on the inmates, often to death.
* ''Digimon'' ''Franchise/{{Digimon}}'' gives us [=LadyDevimon=], an evil humanoid Digimon clad in skin-tight black leather and [[ChainedByFashion chains]]. [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids It is not hard to imagin what kind of data she spawned from…]]
11th Mar '16 7:27:49 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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* [[Wrestling/TheWorldsGreatestTagTeam Shelton Benjamin's]] Smackdown valet, Shaniqua, was revealed to be a {{dominatrix}} but this really didn't come into play until she switched from his valet to manager of the Basham Bros, who were totally submissive to her and Shaniqua started attacking their opponents with "The Magic Stick". Wrestling/{{Tazz}} and Ernest Miller were about their only supports, not even Shelton approved.

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* In the original [[Wrestling/NationalWrestlingAlliance Championship Wrestling From Florida]] and FCW, Wrestling/KevinSullivan often kept "The Fallen Angel", a woman who had pledged her soul to his [[{{cult}} Army Of Darkness]], bound to him by a chain and she seemed to enjoy this, as well as being smacked around by him.
* [[Wrestling/TheWorldsGreatestTagTeam Shelton Benjamin's]] Smackdown valet, Shaniqua, was revealed to be a {{dominatrix}} but this really didn't come into play until she switched from his valet to manager of the Basham Bros, who were totally submissive to her and Shaniqua started attacking their opponents with "The Magic Stick". Wrestling/{{Tazz}} and Ernest Miller were about their only supports, supporters, not even Shelton approved.
5th Mar '16 1:32:31 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/ReeferMadnessTheMusical'': After Mary Lane smokes that evil reefer for the first time, she starts to fantasize about being a dominatrix to show her descent into [[AC:debauchery]]!
20th Feb '16 3:35:38 PM Eievie
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* ''Manga/AirGear'': Arthur is a DepravedHomosexual masochist who displays sexualized behavior towards his antagonist Agito. He also frequently releases heart marks whenever he's reveling in the feeling of pain.

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* * ''Manga/AirGear'': Arthur is a DepravedHomosexual masochist who displays sexualized behavior towards his antagonist Agito. He also frequently releases heart marks whenever he's reveling in the feeling of pain.



-->''Hit me one time
\\Hit me twice\\

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-->''Hit me one time
\\Hit
time\\
Hit
me twice\\
20th Feb '16 3:35:13 PM Eievie
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Some media dress their villains up in "S&M gear" in order to make them {{stripperiffic}} (because they're [[EvilIsSexy villains]], after all), and don't actually have them engage in BDSM. Depending on context, Bondage Is Bad is often a subtrope of SexIsEvil, EvilIsSexy, or both. If played straight, it's often reinforced with hints of PuttingOnTheReich or whatever. A woman dressed as a {{Dominatrix}} will often be portrayed as a villain in fiction--or at least a violent type--for this reason.

Compare TooKinkyToTorture, where someone is so tough that torture gets them off, and CombatSadomasochist. Contrast SafeSaneAndConsensual, CasualKink and the ObligatoryBondageSong. Note that is rapidly becoming a DiscreditedTrope - with the rising mainstream acceptance of alternative sexualities using this trope straight will often raise the ire of many real life practitioners.

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Some media dress their villains up in "S&M gear" in order to make them {{stripperiffic}} (because they're [[EvilIsSexy villains]], after all), and don't actually have them engage in BDSM. Depending on context, Bondage Is Bad is often a subtrope of SexIsEvil, EvilIsSexy, or both. If played straight, it's often reinforced with hints of PuttingOnTheReich or whatever. A woman dressed as a {{Dominatrix}} will often be portrayed as a villain in fiction--or fiction -- or at least a violent type--for type -- for this reason.

Compare TooKinkyToTorture, where someone is so tough that torture gets them off, and CombatSadomasochist. Contrast SafeSaneAndConsensual, CasualKink and the ObligatoryBondageSong. Note that is rapidly becoming a DiscreditedTrope - -- with the rising mainstream acceptance of alternative sexualities using this trope straight will often raise the ire of many real life practitioners.



* Gauron from ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic'' is into BDSM. He's shown in the novels to have a thing for erotic asphyxiation (as he strangles the female scientist in Khanka, and they [[TooKinkyToTorture both enjoy it]]). And numerous times, he's described to get off when he makes others "submit" to him and "break their will." The author even jokingly {{lampshade|Hanging}}s how Gauron is into S&M--in an episode of Lucky Star (that the author had a hand in), there's a doujinshi for Full Metal Panic shown, with Gauron molesting a [[ChainsOfLove chained up]] and {{bound|AndGagged}} Sousuke. To further follow this trope, seeing how he's the domineering aggressive one, he's a [[AxCrazy dangerous serial killer lunatic]] that should be feared.

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* Gauron from ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic'' is into BDSM. He's shown in the novels to have a thing for erotic asphyxiation (as he strangles the female scientist in Khanka, and they [[TooKinkyToTorture both enjoy it]]). And numerous times, he's described to get off when he makes others "submit" to him and "break their will." The author even jokingly {{lampshade|Hanging}}s how Gauron is into S&M--in S&M -- in an episode of Lucky Star (that the author had a hand in), there's a doujinshi for Full Metal Panic shown, with Gauron molesting a [[ChainsOfLove chained up]] and {{bound|AndGagged}} Sousuke. To further follow this trope, seeing how he's the domineering aggressive one, he's a [[AxCrazy dangerous serial killer lunatic]] that should be feared.



* ''Digimon'' gives us [=LadyDevimon=], an evil humanoid Digimon clad in skin-tight black leather and [[ChainedByFashion chains]]. [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids It is not hard to imagin what kind of data she spawned from...]]

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* ''Digimon'' gives us [=LadyDevimon=], an evil humanoid Digimon clad in skin-tight black leather and [[ChainedByFashion chains]]. [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids It is not hard to imagin what kind of data she spawned from...]]from…]]



* In the first album of ''Comicbook/{{Lucifer}}'', CasualKink and this trope are both expressed as attitudes held by characters: Jill has a speech about how she's not into BDSM herself but doesn't mind it as long as it's [[{{SSC}} consensual]]--while Elaine writes a [[ShowWithinAShow story within the story]] where her way of establishing the bad guy as bad is to state that he fantasizes about three creepy things, one of them being tied up women. (The other two are money and selling drugs. It should be noted that since this is in the first issue, Elaine is still an immature and inexperienced 12-year-old psychic.) See page quote.

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* In the first album of ''Comicbook/{{Lucifer}}'', CasualKink and this trope are both expressed as attitudes held by characters: Jill has a speech about how she's not into BDSM herself but doesn't mind it as long as it's [[{{SSC}} consensual]]--while consensual]] -- while Elaine writes a [[ShowWithinAShow story within the story]] where her way of establishing the bad guy as bad is to state that he fantasizes about three creepy things, one of them being tied up women. (The other two are money and selling drugs. It should be noted that since this is in the first issue, Elaine is still an immature and inexperienced 12-year-old psychic.) See page quote.



* In ''Film/{{Nymphomaniac}}'', BDSM will make a woman find her lost sexuality... but also obsess over her master so that she neglects her child and leaves her husband.

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* In ''Film/{{Nymphomaniac}}'', BDSM will make a woman find her lost sexuality... sexuality… but also obsess over her master so that she neglects her child and leaves her husband.



* Used in ''Film/TheCell''; it just so happens that every woman in the 'menagerie' is stuck in what are real life kinks (doll play, pony play, medical play, statue fetish)....in the mind of a sociopathic serial killer.

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* Used in ''Film/TheCell''; it just so happens that every woman in the 'menagerie' is stuck in what are real life kinks (doll play, pony play, medical play, statue fetish)....fetish)… in the mind of a sociopathic serial killer.



* Alasdair Gray: A lot of his work involves deeply flawed and often unsympathetic protagonists who are also sado-masochists. The flaw and the kink may or may not be related, but they're usually both there. One novel features a character who claims to be a "rational sadist", which apparently means his ideal partner is not a masochist but a weaker sadist--someone who wants to hurt him but can't. The word "consensual" never comes up.

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* Alasdair Gray: A lot of his work involves deeply flawed and often unsympathetic protagonists who are also sado-masochists. The flaw and the kink may or may not be related, but they're usually both there. One novel features a character who claims to be a "rational sadist", which apparently means his ideal partner is not a masochist but a weaker sadist--someone sadist -- someone who wants to hurt him but can't. The word "consensual" never comes up.



* Creator/MercedesLackey: Run--relentlessly, inexorably--into the ground in the oeuvre of this author. Any faint taste for a manner of lovemaking that involves physical restraint or power leads inevitably to sorcerous torture and blood sacrifice, usually of children.
** Notable examples: Mornelithe Falconsbane in the Mage Winds trilogy uses restraints, rape, and inventive torture (mental, emotional, physical) to MindRape his victims into his obedient slaves and spies (one description is their very bodies are puppeted by him into a new persona... while the real person is bound, gagged and screaming while watching this occur) and the German porn shop owner in ''[[Literature/DianaTregarde Burning Water]]'', who at least shows very real callousness when he didn't check that a sub had a rubber/latex allergy and caused her death from anaphylactic shock.

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* Creator/MercedesLackey: Run--relentlessly, inexorably--into Run -- relentlessly, inexorably -- into the ground in the oeuvre of this author. Any faint taste for a manner of lovemaking that involves physical restraint or power leads inevitably to sorcerous torture and blood sacrifice, usually of children.
** Notable examples: Mornelithe Falconsbane in the Mage Winds trilogy uses restraints, rape, and inventive torture (mental, emotional, physical) to MindRape his victims into his obedient slaves and spies (one description is their very bodies are puppeted by him into a new persona... persona… while the real person is bound, gagged and screaming while watching this occur) and the German porn shop owner in ''[[Literature/DianaTregarde Burning Water]]'', who at least shows very real callousness when he didn't check that a sub had a rubber/latex allergy and caused her death from anaphylactic shock.



** The Groosalugg, who's from the alternate dimension of Pylea, knows only of conventional slavery. When he has to visit a brothel to acquire a paranormal prophylactic before sleeping with Cordelia, he's understandably alarmed to see a man in chains. Angel sets him straight...kinda.

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** The Groosalugg, who's from the alternate dimension of Pylea, knows only of conventional slavery. When he has to visit a brothel to acquire a paranormal prophylactic before sleeping with Cordelia, he's understandably alarmed to see a man in chains. Angel sets him straight...straight… kinda.



* Dark Eldar in ''{{TabletopGame/Warhammer 40000}}'' personify this with the Wracks and [[MadDoctor Haemonculi]]. Then again, they're evil for lots and lots of different reasons--BDSM simply comes with their general gig as sadomasochisic hedonists who literally feed on pain and suffering.

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* Dark Eldar in ''{{TabletopGame/Warhammer 40000}}'' personify this with the Wracks and [[MadDoctor Haemonculi]]. Then again, they're evil for lots and lots of different reasons--BDSM reasons -- BDSM simply comes with their general gig as sadomasochisic hedonists who literally feed on pain and suffering.



* Cain in ''VideoGame/{{Galerians}}'' fits the "villain who dresses in S&M wear, but doesn't actually engage in it" bill. Probably because he [[{{Squick}} looks fourteen]]... and is technically even ''younger'' than that.

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* Cain in ''VideoGame/{{Galerians}}'' fits the "villain who dresses in S&M wear, but doesn't actually engage in it" bill. Probably because he [[{{Squick}} looks fourteen]]... fourteen]]… and is technically even ''younger'' than that.



* Catalina in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas'' is [[SociopathicHero technically on the protagonist's side]], but she's also one of the craziest characters in the game. When she drags him into her cabin for a good time (involving a whip and a rack--[[SexyDiscretionShot we don't see what goes on inside the cabin]]), he winds up screaming for her to stop (with no success.) (This is PlayedForLaughs, and [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential he probably had it coming after all the stuff you've been having him do]].)

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* Catalina in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas'' is [[SociopathicHero technically on the protagonist's side]], but she's also one of the craziest characters in the game. When she drags him into her cabin for a good time (involving a whip and a rack--[[SexyDiscretionShot rack -- [[SexyDiscretionShot we don't see what goes on inside the cabin]]), he winds up screaming for her to stop (with no success.) (This is PlayedForLaughs, and [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential he probably had it coming after all the stuff you've been having him do]].)



* ''WesternAnimation/{{FernGully|TheLastRainforest}}'': In the VillainSong "Toxic Love", the villain Hexxus alludes to S&M with the lyrics "Hit me one time / Hit me twice / Oh! Ah! Ohhh! / Well, that's rather nice..."

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{FernGully|TheLastRainforest}}'': In the VillainSong "Toxic Love", the villain Hexxus alludes to S&M with the lyrics "Hit lyrics
-->''Hit
me one time / Hit time
\\Hit
me twice / twice\\
Oh! Ah! Ohhh! / Ohhh!\\
Well, that's rather nice..."nice…''
24th Jan '16 1:26:35 PM TheJohnWayne
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* [[ShellShockedVeteran Bryan]] in ''Series/FleshAndBone'' is suggested to be irredeemably sexually disturbed when he hog-ties [[spoiler: Mia]] against her will half-way through a previously consensual act. His penchant for bondage appears again when he restrains another girl during sex by wrapping his hand tightly in her pony-tail.
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