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20th Mar '16 9:24:36 PM 10-13-2
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In the more farcical fictional works, an extremely perverse showman might [[TheChessmaster deliberately bring together differing factions he knows full well will try to]] ''[[TheChessmaster kill]]'' [[TheChessmaster each other]], either for [[PassThePopcorn sadistic entertainment]] or for some other flagrantly selfish purpose.

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In the more farcical fictional works, an extremely perverse showman might [[TheChessmaster deliberately bring together differing factions factions]] [[LetsYouAndHimFight he knows full well will try to]] ''[[TheChessmaster ''[[LetsYouAndHimFight kill]]'' [[TheChessmaster [[LetsYouAndHimFight each other]], either for [[PassThePopcorn sadistic entertainment]] or for some other flagrantly selfish purpose.



* In recent decades, cable news shows have been increasingly hosting loudly ranting panelists with inflammatory views - the kind of people who would ''never'' have been allowed on the air on the major networks in the past, even during the Fairness Doctrine era - especially if these loud guests hold views opposite to most viewers or to the news program itself (if said program has a sociopolitical agenda). At its worst, this setup leads to the "discussion" devolving into a shouting match or even name-calling, giving the lie to the notion that the program is merely "being fair and allowing all views to be expressed." An arguable low point was when Michelle Malkin, guest-hosting ''TheOReillyFactor'', brought some loud-mouthed members of the New Black Panther Party on as guests, apparently just to see what would happen. Malkin and the Panther spokesman ended up calling each other whores.

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* In recent decades, cable news shows have been increasingly hosting loudly ranting panelists with inflammatory views - views. They're the kind of people who would ''never'' have been allowed on the air on the major networks in the past, even during the Fairness Doctrine era - especially if these loud guests hold views opposite to most viewers or to the news program itself (if said program has a sociopolitical agenda). At its worst, this setup leads to the "discussion" devolving into a shouting match or even name-calling, giving the lie to the notion that the program is merely "being fair and allowing all views to be expressed." An arguable low point was when Michelle Malkin, guest-hosting ''TheOReillyFactor'', brought some loud-mouthed members of the New Black Panther Party on as guests, apparently just to see what would happen. Malkin and the Panther spokesman ended up calling each other whores.
12th Jan '16 4:14:59 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* The Buckley/Vidal debates in 1968 were the TropeMakers for the modern [[PompousPoliticalPundit 'talking head' political talk show]]. Creator/{{ABC}} didn't have the money to provide full news coverage of the Democratic and Republican conventions that year, so instead, they hosted a series of debates between a pair of East Coast intellectuals and bitter ideological rivals, the conservative William F. Buckley, Jr. and the leftist Creator/GoreVidal. Among the highlights of the debates, Vidal called Buckley a [[GodwinsLaw 'crypto-Nazi']], to which Buckley responded by calling Vidal a 'queer' and threatening to [[TalkToTheFist punch him in the face]].
15th Dec '15 11:52:48 AM cdrood
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** George and Archie argued when it was believed another black family was moving onto the street. When it was discovered the family was Puerto Rican, George joined with Archie.
19th Oct '15 5:01:18 PM jormis29
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* In ''AllInTheFamily'', bigoted white guy Archie Bunker got a new neighbor in the form of George Jefferson (who would later star in the SpinOff ''TheJeffersons'') who is a bigoted black guy who couldn't stand Whitey. They had the [[NotSoDifferent same repulsed reaction]] upon meeting the interracial (white man, black woman) parents of Jenny, George's soon-to-be daughter-in-law, leading them to commiserate "What's the world coming to?"

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* In ''AllInTheFamily'', ''Series/AllInTheFamily'', bigoted white guy Archie Bunker got a new neighbor in the form of George Jefferson (who would later star in the SpinOff ''TheJeffersons'') who is a bigoted black guy who couldn't stand Whitey. They had the [[NotSoDifferent same repulsed reaction]] upon meeting the interracial (white man, black woman) parents of Jenny, George's soon-to-be daughter-in-law, leading them to commiserate "What's the world coming to?"



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* ''{{Spinnerette}}'' has [[{{Ghostapo}} Nazi Sorceror]] Kugelbitz getting into a fight with Roberta Lee, white supremacist descendant of General Lee (who, despite her beliefs is a practitioner of HollywoodVoodoo).

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* ''{{Spinnerette}}'' ''Webcomic/{{Spinnerette}}'' has [[{{Ghostapo}} Nazi Sorceror]] Kugelbitz getting into a fight with Roberta Lee, white supremacist descendant of General Lee (who, despite her beliefs is a practitioner of HollywoodVoodoo).



* ''Franchise/{{ShinMegamiTensei}}'': A very, very not-funny variant in God and Lucifer's [[ForeverWar endless]], world-spanning war with each other. God's a rigid control freak who believes the only path to peace is blind worship of him, while Lucifer stands for absolute, unrestrained freedom with no rules or security whatsoever. What pushes it into NightmareFuel is their nasty habit of picking the Human World as their battleground, and between their shared LackOfEmpathy, their willingness to do [[TheUnfettered virtually anything to win]], and their [[PhysicalGod mind-shattering levels of power]], their feud has left more than one apocalypse in its wake.

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* ''Franchise/{{ShinMegamiTensei}}'': ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'': A very, very not-funny variant in God and Lucifer's [[ForeverWar endless]], world-spanning war with each other. God's a rigid control freak who believes the only path to peace is blind worship of him, while Lucifer stands for absolute, unrestrained freedom with no rules or security whatsoever. What pushes it into NightmareFuel is their nasty habit of picking the Human World as their battleground, and between their shared LackOfEmpathy, their willingness to do [[TheUnfettered virtually anything to win]], and their [[PhysicalGod mind-shattering levels of power]], their feud has left more than one apocalypse in its wake.
19th Oct '15 6:48:43 AM 10-13-2
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In the more farcical fictional works, an extremely perverse showman might deliberately bring together differing factions he knows full well will try to ''kill'' each other, either for [[PassThePopcorn sadistic entertainment]] or for some other flagrantly selfish purpose.

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In the more farcical fictional works, an extremely perverse showman might [[TheChessmaster deliberately bring together differing factions he knows full well will try to ''kill'' to]] ''[[TheChessmaster kill]]'' [[TheChessmaster each other, other]], either for [[PassThePopcorn sadistic entertainment]] or for some other flagrantly selfish purpose.



See also RuleOfDrama. Compare and contrast with LetsYouAndHimFight, which is when the two bigots are actually on the same side and don't realize it.

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See also RuleOfDrama. Compare and contrast with LetsYouAndHimFight, which is when the two bigots are actually on the same side and don't realize it.
19th Oct '15 6:26:30 AM 10-13-2
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See also RuleOfDrama.

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See also RuleOfDrama. Compare and contrast with LetsYouAndHimFight, which is when the two bigots are actually on the same side and don't realize it.
19th Oct '15 6:20:10 AM 10-13-2
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This fighting will be completely pointless, of course, since both sides will be far too narrow-minded to even consider the other side's arguments. Both sides will also be too stubborn to see this, or the fact that they're NotSoDifferent. Their issues with each other may be inexplicably resolved when the show ends with the Apology Scene. (Interesting how they only decide to apologize when the show's about to end, though ManipulativeEditing might have a hand in that)

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This fighting will be completely pointless, of course, since both sides will be far too narrow-minded to even consider the other side's arguments. Both sides will also be too stubborn to see this, or the fact that they're NotSoDifferent. Their issues with each other may be inexplicably resolved when the show ends with the Apology Scene. (Interesting how they only decide to apologize when the show's about to end, though ManipulativeEditing might have a hand in that)
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In the more farcical fictional works, an extremely perverse showman might deliberately bring together differing factions he knows full well will try to ''kill'' each other, either for [[PassThePopcorn sadistic entertainment]] or for some other flagrantly selfish purpose.
19th Oct '15 6:17:14 AM 10-13-2
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* Used by the DangerouslyGenreSavvy [[SociopathicHero Ananse the spider]] in an African folktale. Ananse owed debts to all the other animals in the jungle, so he secretly arranged to meet with them one at a time. But this was a lie: while one animal was seated in his parlor waiting for the debt settlement to begin, Ananse would keep bringing in an animal that was the natural predator of the one already there, knowing full well that the former would kill and eat the latter. He kept doing this, working his way up through the food chain, until only two of his creditors were left - a lion and a leopard who were equally matched as carnivores. So Ananse ambushed and killed them both while they were fighting each other, and in this way managed to cancel out all his debts with relatively little blood on his own hands.
19th Oct '15 6:10:12 AM 10-13-2
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* In recent decades, cable news shows have been increasingly hosting loudly ranting panelists with inflammatory views - the kind of people who would ''never'' have been allowed on the air on the major networks in the past, even during the Fairness Doctrine era - especially if these loud guests hold views opposite to most viewers or to the news program itself (if said program has a sociopolitical agenda). At its worst, this setup leads to the "discussion" devolving into a shouting match or even name-calling, giving the lie to the notion that the program is merely "being fair and allowing all views to be expressed." An arguable low point was when Michelle Malkin, guest-hosting ''TheOReillyFactor'', brought some loud-mouthed members of the New Black Panther Party on as guests, apparently just to see what would happen. Malkin and the Panther spokesman ended up calling each other whores.
20th Aug '15 6:58:31 AM Freezer
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* Dan Aykroyd says to Jane Alexander, "Jane, you ignorant slut!" in their parody of ''Sixty Minutes' Point/Counterpoint''.

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* Dan Aykroyd says to ** "Count/Pointercount": SNL's parody of the above-mentioned "Point/Counterpoint". Jane Alexander, Curtin would usually go first, with Dan Ackroyd leading off his rebuttal with "Jane, you ignorant slut!" in their parody of ''Sixty Minutes' Point/Counterpoint''.slut!"
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