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29th Apr '16 5:56:22 PM eroock
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Unless the character is showing ItsAllAboutMe or MoralMyopia or even worse ButForMeItWasTuesday-- which are possible -- this is a sympathetic characterization. An innocent character taken for a crime that no one will identify is common, especially in RevengeByProxy, SinsOfOurFathers, and CriminalDoppelganger, but not the only possibility. DisproportionateRetribution will often inspire it. Even if the crime was real, and the punishment not disproportionate, punishing an amnesiac character tends to come off as wrong. Those with ignorance of the law, stemming [[ChildrenAreInnocent child-like innocence]] or [[NaiveNewcomer unfamiliarity with the location]], generally come off almost as well. Especially if YouKnowWhatYouDid follows. GuiltByAssociationGag is related but generally involves the target genuinely not being involved at all.

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Unless the character is showing ItsAllAboutMe or MoralMyopia or even worse ButForMeItWasTuesday-- ButForMeItWasTuesday -- which are possible -- this is a sympathetic characterization. An innocent character taken for a crime that no one will identify is common, especially in RevengeByProxy, SinsOfOurFathers, and CriminalDoppelganger, but not the only possibility. DisproportionateRetribution will often inspire it. Even if the crime was real, and the punishment not disproportionate, punishing an amnesiac character tends to come off as wrong. Those with ignorance of the law, stemming [[ChildrenAreInnocent child-like innocence]] or [[NaiveNewcomer unfamiliarity with the location]], generally come off almost as well. Especially if YouKnowWhatYouDid follows. GuiltByAssociationGag is related but generally involves the target genuinely not being involved at all.
29th Apr '16 5:55:47 PM eroock
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->''All right guv! All right! Whatever I did, I'm sorry! And if you tell me what it was I won't do it again!''

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->''All ->''"All right guv! All right! Whatever I did, I'm sorry! And if you tell me what it was I won't do it again!''again!"''
16th Apr '16 5:41:33 AM JackG
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* An Eastern European film taking place in an unnamed state had a communist functionary being reassigned. She thinks she's been promoted, but instead ends up in a frozen rat-infested hovel with an old man who says only, "They sent you here, so you could think about why they sent you here."
7th Apr '16 7:28:44 AM erforce
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-->''All right guv! All right! Whatever I did, I'm sorry! And if you tell me what it was I won't do it again!''
-->--'''One of the player's hoodlums''' after some "Bloody-knuckled discipline", ''Videogame/FallenLondon''

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-->''All ->''All right guv! All right! Whatever I did, I'm sorry! And if you tell me what it was I won't do it again!''
-->--'''One -->-- '''One of the player's hoodlums''' after some "Bloody-knuckled discipline", ''Videogame/FallenLondon''



* In ''Film/{{Oldboy}}'' the protagonist is kidnapped and held in a private prison. When released, he spends the rest of the movie trying to track down who did this to him and why.

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* In ''Film/{{Oldboy}}'' ''Film/{{Oldboy 2003}}'' the protagonist is kidnapped and held in a private prison. When released, he spends the rest of the movie trying to track down who did this to him and why.
19th Mar '16 3:20:58 PM Lopiny
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-->''All right guv! All right! Whatever I did, I'm sorry! And if you tell me what it was I won't do it again''

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-->''All right guv! All right! Whatever I did, I'm sorry! And if you tell me what it was I won't do it again''again!''
27th Feb '16 8:51:48 PM Lopiny
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-->''All right guv! All right! Whatever I did, I'm sorry! And if you tell me what it was I won't do it again''
-->--'''One of the player's hoodlums''' after some "Bloody-knuckled discipline", ''Videogame/FallenLondon''
16th Jan '16 8:03:43 PM RavenWilder
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* An episode of ''Series/{{Friends}}'' has Phoebe giving Ross the cold shoulder because she's mad at him. He doesn't know ''why'' she's mad at him, though, and after some prodding, Phoebe admits that she doesn't know either. She's actually forgotten whatever it was Ross did to upset her, she just remembers being mad about it.
22nd Oct '15 5:59:31 AM Shadowgazer
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22nd Oct '15 4:36:03 AM Shadowgazer
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Unless the character is showing ItsAllAboutMe or MoralMyopia -- which are possible -- this is a sympathetic characterization. An innocent character taken for a crime that no one will identify is common, especially in RevengeByProxy, SinsOfOurFathers, and CriminalDoppelganger, but not the only possibility. DisproportionateRetribution will often inspire it. Even if the crime was real, and the punishment not disproportionate, punishing an amnesiac character tends to come off as wrong. Those with ignorance of the law, stemming [[ChildrenAreInnocent child-like innocence]] or [[NaiveNewcomer unfamiliarity with the location]], generally come off almost as well. Especially if YouKnowWhatYouDid follows. GuiltByAssociationGag is related but generally involves the target genuinely not being involved at all.

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Unless the character is showing ItsAllAboutMe or MoralMyopia -- or even worse ButForMeItWasTuesday-- which are possible -- this is a sympathetic characterization. An innocent character taken for a crime that no one will identify is common, especially in RevengeByProxy, SinsOfOurFathers, and CriminalDoppelganger, but not the only possibility. DisproportionateRetribution will often inspire it. Even if the crime was real, and the punishment not disproportionate, punishing an amnesiac character tends to come off as wrong. Those with ignorance of the law, stemming [[ChildrenAreInnocent child-like innocence]] or [[NaiveNewcomer unfamiliarity with the location]], generally come off almost as well. Especially if YouKnowWhatYouDid follows. GuiltByAssociationGag is related but generally involves the target genuinely not being involved at all.
18th Oct '15 11:50:44 AM nombretomado
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* An episode of ''ThePowerpuffGirls'' has them accidentally discovering a new swear word, which they proceed to use constantly. Ms. Keane hears them say it in class and punishes them, but of course [[InnocentSwearing the girls don't know its a bad word]], and when they ask her what they did, she answers, "[[YouKnowWhatYouDid You know perfectly well what you did!]]"

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* An episode of ''ThePowerpuffGirls'' ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' has them accidentally discovering a new swear word, which they proceed to use constantly. Ms. Keane hears them say it in class and punishes them, but of course [[InnocentSwearing the girls don't know its a bad word]], and when they ask her what they did, she answers, "[[YouKnowWhatYouDid You know perfectly well what you did!]]"
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