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18th Nov '16 2:08:15 PM HiddenWindshield
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* ''TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}'' splits this into two distinct forms. The "Truthfulness" disadvantage represents a deep aversion to lying, leading to a lack of practice and giving penalties to social skills where deception is required. The "Easy to Read" disadvantage represents very open body language, giving other characters bonuses to read ''you'', including when spotting your lies (but also in other circumstances, all so long as they can see you). One is assumed to be moral, the other more physical. A character with ''both'' is a completely open book.\\
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(Note: the "Honesty" disadvantage is about obeying the law, and has nothing to do with lying, except in circumstances where that happens to be illegal.)

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* ''TabletopGame/{{GURPS}}'' splits this into two distinct forms. The "Truthfulness" disadvantage represents a deep aversion to lying, leading to a lack of practice and giving penalties to social skills where deception is required. The "Easy to Read" disadvantage represents very open body language, giving other characters bonuses to read ''you'', including when spotting your lies (but also in other circumstances, all so long as they can see you). One is assumed to be moral, the other more physical. A character with ''both'' is a completely open book.\\
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[[note]]There's also an "Honesty" disadvantage disadvantage, which is actually about obeying the law, and law. Despite its name, it has nothing to do with lying, except in circumstances where that lying happens to be illegal.)[[/note]]
6th Nov '16 3:56:11 AM Vir
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* Liar Starscream (whom WordOfGod definitely hasn't named Ramjet...) from ''TransformersAnimated'' [[BlatantLies never speaks a word other than the truth. Everything he says most certainly does not sound like a lie.]] [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ramjet_(Animated) This page]] at the [[Wiki/TFWikiDotNet Transformers Wiki]] is not about him, and does not make his lying (which he never does BTW) [[SelfDemonstratingArticle really, really obvious.]]

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** Peter is often shown to be this, usually in {{Cutaway Gag}}s; in one, he denies having eaten some of the candy in Willy Wonka's factory despite having swelled up into a giant blue ball (like Violet in every adaptation), and in another he farts and tells the guy next to him "Uh, it was you."
* Liar Starscream (whom WordOfGod definitely hasn't named Ramjet...) from ''TransformersAnimated'' ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' [[BlatantLies never speaks a word other than the truth. Everything he says most certainly does not sound like a lie.]] [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Ramjet_(Animated) This page]] at the [[Wiki/TFWikiDotNet Transformers Wiki]] is not about him, and does not make his lying (which he never does BTW) [[SelfDemonstratingArticle really, really obvious.]]
5th Oct '16 12:09:49 PM Morgenthaler
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* In ''HelloCheeky'', John occasionally suffered this trope, usually while trying to conceal something he had just said about his affair with Barry's wife.

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* In ''HelloCheeky'', ''Radio/HelloCheeky'', John occasionally suffered this trope, usually while trying to conceal something he had just said about his affair with Barry's wife.
29th Sep '16 8:15:59 PM cpslck
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** Heartbreakingly subverted in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''. While Steve is still a bad liar, [[KeepingSecretsSucks he's capable deliberately hiding information]]. Despite knowing for two years HYDRA was responsible [[spoiler: the death's of Tony Stark's parents]], he never told him. Tony is as enraged by this deception as he is by the act itself.

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** Heartbreakingly subverted in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''. While Steve is still a bad liar, [[KeepingSecretsSucks he's capable of deliberately hiding information]]. Despite knowing for two years HYDRA was responsible for [[spoiler: the death's of Tony Stark's parents]], he never told him. Tony is as enraged by this deception as he is by the act itself.
29th Sep '16 8:14:15 PM cpslck
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** Heartbreakingly subverted in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''. While Steve is still a bad liar, [[KeepingSecretsSuck he's capable deliberately hiding information]]. Despite knowing for two years HYDRA was responsible [[spoiler: the death's of Tony Stark's parents]], he never told him. Tony is as enraged by this deception as he is by the act itself.

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** Heartbreakingly subverted in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''. While Steve is still a bad liar, [[KeepingSecretsSuck [[KeepingSecretsSucks he's capable deliberately hiding information]]. Despite knowing for two years HYDRA was responsible [[spoiler: the death's of Tony Stark's parents]], he never told him. Tony is as enraged by this deception as he is by the act itself.
29th Sep '16 8:13:12 PM cpslck
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** Heartbreakingly subverted in ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''. While Steve is still a bad liar, [[KeepingSecretsSuck he's capable deliberately hiding information]]. Despite knowing for two years HYDRA was responsible [[spoiler: the death's of Tony Stark's parents]], he never told him. Tony is as enraged by this deception as he is by the act itself.
5th Sep '16 12:54:53 AM TitaniumDragon
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** ''WebAnimation/TurnaboutStorm'':
*** [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Twilight and Rainbow]] are so bad at lying that [[Franchise/AceAttorney Phoenix]] can easily tell when they are hiding something from him without the help of [[LieDetector his lie detecting Magatama]].
*** Gilda lies constantly, and never stops to consider if she's contradicting previously established facts. Eventually, even the prosecutor gets fed up with it.
* Shows up in other MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic fanfics as well:
** ''Fanfic/IHaveThisFriend'' is about Twilight going to Celestia, asking for romantic advice on behalf of a "friend" about a pony who sounds suspiciously similar to Princess Celestia. [[spoiler: Ultimately subverted, as Twilight was telling the truth. But Celestia is left with the impression that Twilight just sort of confessed to her, and is now planning some sort of grand romantic gesture.]]



* ''WebAnimation/TurnaboutStorm'':
** [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Twilight and Rainbow]] are so bad at lying that [[Franchise/AceAttorney Phoenix]] can easily tell when they are hiding something from him without the help of [[LieDetector his lie detecting Magatama]].
** Gilda lies constantly, and never stops to consider if she's contradicting previously established facts. Eventually, even the prosecutor gets fed up with it.
30th Aug '16 10:43:25 AM NNinja
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* Frank Sawhit in ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney''. Justified, as he's the killer in the first ever case in the series, [[ReverseWhodunnit (and that's not even a spoiler)]] and thus serves to get the player used to finding contradictions in witness testimonies. He somehow manages to be [[UpToEleven even WORSE]] when he appears in prison in ''Investigations 2'', though.


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* Frank Sawhit in ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorney''. Not a suprise, as he's the killer in the first ever case in the series, [[ReverseWhodunnit (and that's not even a spoiler)]] and thus serves to get the player used to finding contradictions in witness testimonies. He somehow manages to be [[UpToEleven even WORSE]] when he appears in prison in ''Investigations 2'', though.
19th Aug '16 9:01:24 PM SWFMax
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* WebVideo/MatthewSantoro is never able to tell a convincing lie, because whenever he lies, he inadvertently gives it away by getting shifty eyes.
23rd Jul '16 12:05:06 PM Wyldchyld
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** Simon doesn't handle being put on the spot very well. Not only does it cause him to fall apart in social situations, but it means he cannot carry a spontaneous disguise well either. When Mal decides at the last minute to force Simon to play the role of a mud buyer in "Jaynestown", he stammers and relies heavily on prompts from Mal. However, when Simon is given the opportunity to plan a scenario (such as "Ariel" or the beginning of ''Film/{{Serenity}}''), he actually turns out to be a criminal mastermind. The only spontaneous situations he handles well are medial emergencies.

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** Simon doesn't handle being put on the spot very well. Not only does it cause him to fall apart in social situations, but it means he cannot carry a spontaneous disguise well either. When Mal decides at the last minute to force Simon to play the role of a mud buyer in "Jaynestown", he stammers and relies heavily on prompts from Mal. However, when Simon is given the opportunity to plan a scenario (such as "Ariel" or the beginning of ''Film/{{Serenity}}''), he actually turns out to be a criminal mastermind. The only spontaneous situations he handles well are medial medical emergencies.
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