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20th Feb '17 2:27:31 AM jormis29
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** It's said that the same thing happened with the first "Castle Greyhawk" module, which was seen as a massive TakeThat against the then-departing Creator/GaryGygax (who had created Castle Greyhawk and was never able to [[{{Vaporware}} release it properly while at TSR]]). It cheesed off enough people that TSR ordered a few years later "Greyhawk Ruins", which was a deadly serious (and [[AncientTomb just]] [[MalevolentArchitecture plain]] ''[[KillerGameMaster deadly]]'') version of the location. Players (and even [[WordOfGod TSR itself]]) later declared "Ruins" to be [[CanonDiscontinuity the official version]], leaving Castle Greyhawk as a rarely spoken-of joke module.

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** It's said that the same thing happened with the first "Castle Greyhawk" module, which was seen as a massive TakeThat against the then-departing Creator/GaryGygax (who had created Castle Greyhawk and was never able to [[{{Vaporware}} release it properly properly]] while at TSR]]).Creator/{{TSR}}). It cheesed off enough people that TSR ordered a few years later "Greyhawk Ruins", which was a deadly serious (and [[AncientTomb just]] [[MalevolentArchitecture plain]] ''[[KillerGameMaster deadly]]'') version of the location. Players (and even [[WordOfGod TSR itself]]) later declared "Ruins" to be [[CanonDiscontinuity the official version]], leaving Castle Greyhawk as a rarely spoken-of joke module.
7th Feb '17 5:21:34 PM eroock
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3rd Feb '17 4:26:33 AM Doug86
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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'': A minor case. Creator/DaveFiloni deliberately gave Literature/DarthBane a cameo in the final episode to ensure the character (who he was a fan of) would remain canon after Disney announced their plans to de-canonize the original StarWarsExpandedUniverse.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'': A minor case. Creator/DaveFiloni deliberately gave Literature/DarthBane a cameo in the final episode to ensure the character (who he was a fan of) would remain canon after Disney announced their plans to de-canonize the original StarWarsExpandedUniverse.Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse.
31st Jan '17 11:33:36 PM RacattackForce
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** And then, both of them then left the comic at the same time, allowing new writer Ian Flynn to scrap the majority of their ideas and replace them with his own.
*** Actually it's not as simple as that: with the bridges between Ken Penders & Archie/Sega permanently burned, the writer has launched lawsuits concerning the characters & concepts that he created, stating the belonged to him and for them to be removed from the comics. Since this would [[ContinuitySnarl essentially gut a very good portion of the comic's universe]] (and indeed, Flynn had to hurriedly write out all of Penders's echidna character in the ''middle'' of the "Endangered Species" arc ''off-screen''), the ending of ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogMegaManWorldsCollide'' (in which [[spoiler:Eggman botches Super Sonic's in-universe Armed With Canon powers (aimed at undoing the two doctors' Armed With Canon device that started the crossover to begin with) by firing an Armed With Canon-disrupting cannon]]) pretty much says that Flynn's going for a Crisis-style retcon come #252.

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** And then, both of them then left the comic at the same time, allowing new writer Ian Flynn to scrap the majority of their ideas and replace them with his own.
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own...kinda. Actually, it's not as simple as that: with the bridges between Ken Penders & Archie/Sega permanently burned, the writer has launched ending up launching lawsuits concerning the characters & concepts that he created, stating the that belonged to him and for them to be removed from the comics. Since this would [[ContinuitySnarl essentially gut They eventually lead to a very good portion of the comic's universe]] (and indeed, settlement that, in part, had Ian Flynn had to hurriedly write out all of Penders's echidna character in the ''middle'' of the "Endangered Species" arc ''off-screen''), use the ending of ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogMegaManWorldsCollide'' (in which [[spoiler:Eggman botches Super Sonic's in-universe Armed With Canon powers (aimed at undoing as a CosmicRetcon for the two doctors' Armed With Canon device series, in order to remove every element that started the crossover to begin with) by firing an Armed With Canon-disrupting cannon]]) pretty much says that Flynn's going for a Crisis-style retcon come #252.Penders created.
5th Jan '17 10:15:19 AM N1KF
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'' Timmy/Tootie shippers have [[Film/AFairlyOddMovieGrowUpTimmyTurner a live action movie which shows them getting together as adults]]. Whether or not the movie is canonical is hotly contested by other FOP fans, who do not like the live action movie for various reasons, including Timmy's status as a 23 year old 5th grader who refuses to grow up. What makes things even more confusing is that the live action movie was created by Butch Hartman and Scott Fellows, both of whom worked on movies where Timmy romanced other girls such as "Wishology", yet all other romantic plots are retconned into non-existence by the FOP movie.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddParents'' Timmy/Tootie shippers have [[Film/AFairlyOddMovieGrowUpTimmyTurner a live action movie which shows them getting together as adults]]. Whether or not the movie is canonical is hotly contested by other FOP fans, who do not like the live action movie for various reasons, including Timmy's status as a 23 year old 5th grader who refuses to grow up. What makes things even more confusing is that the live action movie was created by Butch Hartman and Scott Fellows, both of whom worked on movies where Timmy romanced other girls such as "Wishology", ''WesternAnimation/{{Wishology}}'', yet all other romantic plots are retconned into non-existence by the FOP movie.
23rd Dec '16 1:34:27 PM T3rr0rd0me
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** [[http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff230/BPHaru3/RND/Fate_chan_is_a_prince_en.jpg In this article]], the two [=VA=]s mention that in 10 years, Nanoha will be a housewife for Fate. The original writer, Tsuzuki, also says Vivio "frequently keeps in contact with Fate-''mama'', as often as contacting ''the father'' who works away from home, with a communication tool."

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** WordOfGay [[http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff230/BPHaru3/RND/Fate_chan_is_a_prince_en.jpg In from this article]], article]] has the two [=VA=]s mention mentioning that in 10 years, Nanoha will be a housewife for Fate. The original writer, Tsuzuki, also says Vivio "frequently keeps in contact with Fate-''mama'', as often as contacting ''the father'' who works away from home, with a communication tool."
22nd Dec '16 10:06:24 PM BURGINABC
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* ''Series/{{Community}}'' does this a bunch of times. The reasons for which all center on the removal of the original creator - Dan Harmon - in the fourth season. When Harmon Later picked up the show again you could say he was not too pleased with many of the decisions made in the fourth season
** This is made clear in season six, not very subtly - when Chang 'farts during the fourth one'. Explaining it as an inside joke.




* ''Series/{{Community}}'' does this a bunch of times. The reasons for which all center on the removal of the original creator - Dan Harmon - in the fourth season. When Harmon Later picked up the show again you could say he was not too pleased with many of the decisions made in the fourth season
** This is made clear in season six, not very subtly - when Chang 'farts during the fourth one'. Explaining it as an inside joke.
22nd Dec '16 10:05:39 PM BURGINABC
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* On ''Series/{{House}}'', the friendship between [[HeterosexualLifePartners House and Wilson]] had such intense HoYay overtones that writer Doris Egan couldn't resist writing just a bit more of it each episode, but the other writers weren't on board and kept downgrading Egan's RelationshipUpgrade moments again. Showrunner David Shore had to WordOfGod nix the canon likelihood of House and Wilson becoming a couple in a semi-famous interview with TV critic Mo Ryan, after Doris Egan's writing on the "Amber" StoryArc made the subtext nearly text.
12th Dec '16 7:11:01 PM Steam_Lord
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** There's also a whole list of cases where White Wolf took a distinctly different stance than Blizzard. They considered the ''Warcraft'' setting to revolve around [[UnequalRites the conflict between arcane and divine magic]], thought that all undead were free-willed, suggested that the Blood Elves were only a small magic-obsessed faction of the survivors of Quel'thalas, and that Illidan was trying to become the new Lich King to conquer Azeroth. Some of these were from pre-''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' sourcebooks, others don't have that excuse.

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** There's also a whole list of cases where White Wolf took a distinctly different stance than Blizzard. They considered the ''Warcraft'' setting to revolve around [[UnequalRites the conflict between arcane and divine magic]], thought that all undead were free-willed, suggested that the Blood Elves were only a small magic-obsessed faction of the survivors of Quel'thalas, and that Illidan was trying to become the new Lich King to conquer Azeroth. Some of these were from pre-''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' sourcebooks, sourcebooks), others don't have that excuse.excuse. There are also excuses like the blood elves being minor antagonists before TBC made them a playable race, with all the inclusion that entails, but the RPG books stayed what they were.
10th Dec '16 5:24:19 AM pinkdalek
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** In the Hinchcliffe Era, script editor Creator/RobertHolmes spent a lot of time kicking at things from the Pertwee Era that he disliked (like the Third Doctor's BoringInvincibleHero problems) and providing explanations for NecessaryWeasel tropes in the show that had been previously ignored (AliensSpeakingEnglish, WalkingDisasterArea, HeroBall). He also retconned Time Lord society into a DeadlyDecadentCourt of elderly bureaucrats because he disliked the MarySueTopia concept that the previous era used, something that is [[FanDislikedExplanation still fairly controversial]]. He was also the first writer to confirm that regeneration can happen across gender, though he envisioned Time Lord society as a OneGenderRace of men unlike later writers.



** Moffat then produced one of the most aggressive examples of this in the whole history of the franchise (which has many previous ones) with the ending of "Face the Raven[="/"=]Heaven Sent[="/"=]Hell Bent", which gets right in the face of both Davies as writer and the Tenth Doctor in-universe for the decisions they made at the end of "The Stolen Earth[="/"=]Journeys' End".

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** Moffat then produced one of the most aggressive examples of this in the whole history of the franchise (which has many previous ones) with the ending of "Face the Raven[="/"=]Heaven Sent[="/"=]Hell Bent", which gets right in the face of both Davies as writer and the Tenth Doctor in-universe for the decisions they made at the end of "The Stolen Earth[="/"=]Journeys' End". These stories also specifically show a white male Time Lord getting shot and regenerating on screen into a black woman.
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