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24th Aug '16 2:54:35 PM Kereea1
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* The ''ComicBook/BuffyTheVampireSlayer'' main comic book has done this in season 10 several times, usually aimed at season 6 of the show. When fighting the Soul Glutton Spike asks to be immediately staked is is soul is destroyed since he'll go back to being a souless monster, refuting a lot of his pre-Season 7 character development and even claiming he couldn't "really" love Buffy before the soul (this coming from a character who is primarily defined as being "love's bitch"). Similarly Buffy outright tells Spike she was never upset with her friends for bringing her back to life in season six, but upset ''with herself'' for being upset and missing heaven. This has caused some serious FanWank as Spike being able to love Buffy even without a soul and Buffy being upset at the Scoobies for pulling her out of heaven were very common interpretations.
** A major part of the "Venegance" arc is discussing the idea that Spike puts the women he cares for on a pedestal and then forces them to push him away so he doesn't have to break up with them. Given this is the vampire who was slavishly devoted to Drusilla for over a hundred years and only broke up with her after she cheated on him repeatedly and refused to be with him and he never had anything resembling a high opinion of Harmony, ''and'' his famous "you're a hell of a woman" speech to Buffy it has been [[BrokenBase a contentious move]]. And then Spike, the man who has gone to ridiculous lengths to both prove his love and not be broken up with, gets it in his head that the way to break the cycle is to ''try and break up with Buffy'' just so she can call him out on it.
13th Aug '16 7:07:26 PM Sayacha
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* ''Manga/ElfenLied'' had the anime team fighting a [[ShipToShipCombat shipping war]] with the manga. In the manga, [[spoiler: Lucy dies and Kouta gets with [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Yuka]]]]. In the anime, Kouta/Yuka is played down a bit while Kouta/Lucy is played up, and while the ending is ambiguous, [[spoiler: it's implied that Lucy survives the BolivianArmyEnding and returns to Kouta.]] Of course, since it was CutShort, the LoveTriangle is never formally resolved in the anime.

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* ''Manga/ElfenLied'' had the anime team fighting a [[ShipToShipCombat shipping war]] with the manga. In the manga, [[spoiler: Lucy dies and Kouta gets with [[ChildhoodFriendRomance [[KissingCousins Yuka]]]]. In the anime, Kouta/Yuka is played down a bit while Kouta/Lucy is played up, and while the ending is ambiguous, [[spoiler: it's implied that Lucy survives the BolivianArmyEnding and returns to Kouta.]] Of course, since it was CutShort, the LoveTriangle is never formally resolved in the anime.
20th Jun '16 3:48:51 PM pinkdalek
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* The ''Series/DoctorWho'' story "[[Recap/DoctorWho20thASTheFiveDoctors The Five Doctors]]" had an example of this within the story itself. The writer of the story, Creator/TerranceDicks, got fed up with his script editor Eric Saward's insistence that the Cybermen [[CreatorsPet have a bigger and bigger role]] in the story. As a result, he added a memorable scene in which a Raston Warrior Robot, a very low-budget monster portrayed by a ballet dancer in a silver zentai suit, which had never appeared in the show previously, turned up and absolutely massacred a whole platoon of Cybermen in one of the most extreme examples of CurbStompBattle ever to appear in ''Doctor Who''.

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* The ''Series/DoctorWho'' ''Series/DoctorWho'':
** Philip Hinchcliffe hated the character of the Master, viewing him as a boring '[[DastardlyWhiplash music hall villain]]' and borderline IneffectualSympatheticVillain. This was why he decided to SameCharacterButDifferent him in Season 14, reimagining him as a rotting corpse cheating death by his own willpower (influenced by ''Literature/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' and the {{Lich}} trope). When John Nathan-Turner took over the show, he [[RevisitingTheRoots changed the character back]], making him {{Camp}}ier than ever.
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story "[[Recap/DoctorWho20thASTheFiveDoctors The Five Doctors]]" had an example of this within the story itself. The writer of the story, Creator/TerranceDicks, got fed up with his script editor Eric Saward's insistence that the Cybermen [[CreatorsPet have a bigger and bigger role]] in the story. As a result, he added a memorable scene in which a Raston Warrior Robot, a very low-budget monster portrayed by a ballet dancer in a silver zentai suit, which had never appeared in the show previously, turned up and absolutely massacred a whole platoon of Cybermen in one of the most extreme examples of CurbStompBattle ever to appear in ''Doctor Who''.


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** Steven Moffat admitted he never liked the idea of the Doctor committing genocide against the Time Lords in the Time War. One of his most prominent stories was about the Doctor {{Cosmic Retcon}}ning the incident out of existence.
16th Jun '16 7:58:25 PM nombretomado
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* ComicBook/SquirrelGirl is almost an ArmedWithCanon game of tennis. First, she was shown beating Doctor Doom. So a later appearance of Doom mentions it was ActuallyADoombot (see above). Then Squirrel Girl beats {{Thanos}}, and [[AllPowerfulBystander Uatu]] is present just to say that it isn't a "Robot, clone, or simulacrum". Later on, Thanos mentions that he can create clones of himself that even the Watcher cannot tell aren't him. So then another Squirrel Girl adventure goes back to the beginning: by having Doctor Doom be unwilling to fight her when she shows up in his castle.

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* ComicBook/SquirrelGirl is almost an ArmedWithCanon game of tennis. First, she was shown beating Doctor Doom. So a later appearance of Doom mentions it was ActuallyADoombot (see above). Then Squirrel Girl beats {{Thanos}}, ComicBook/{{Thanos}}, and [[AllPowerfulBystander Uatu]] is present just to say that it isn't a "Robot, clone, or simulacrum". Later on, Thanos mentions that he can create clones of himself that even the Watcher cannot tell aren't him. So then another Squirrel Girl adventure goes back to the beginning: by having Doctor Doom be unwilling to fight her when she shows up in his castle.
14th Jun '16 1:39:28 PM LondonKdS
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* Creator/GregRucka's run on ''ComicBook/WonderWoman'' during the "Rebirth" era began with an issue entirely devoted to denouncing many controversial elements of the "New 52" era comics about the character as the result of propaganda and/or malicious reality-warping.
12th Jun '16 4:09:39 PM fdsa1234567890
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** Curtis Saxton, originally a PromotedFanboy, wrote a lot of data in several technical manuals for the EU. Unfortunately, he has been accused of trying to rewrite ''Franchise/StarWars'' to be more in line with the views of the pro-Wars online Vs. debate, and as such gave hugely inflated numbers for pretty much everything. This caused all sorts of problems, particularly with troop numbers. He established that the Separatists have quintillions of droids. Given that the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie novelization, a higher canonical source over his lesser canonical status, pretty much told us that the "million more well on the way" was a million clone warriors, he had given the Separatists more than a trillion droids for every clone the other side had.

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** Curtis Saxton, originally a PromotedFanboy, wrote a lot of data in several technical manuals for the EU. Unfortunately, he has been accused of trying to rewrite ''Franchise/StarWars'' to be more in line with the views of the pro-Wars online Vs. debate, and as such gave hugely inflated numbers for pretty much everything. This caused all sorts [[SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale He and his fans argue that it is simply a consequence of problems, what is shown onscreen]]. The acceleration needed to get to orbit as fast as is shown in Star Wars requires the ability to produce insane levels of firepower, as well as being consistent with what the Death Star does. Though the problem is that this is wholly inconsistent with what is observed in the rest of canon. Troop numbers are particularly with troop numbers. problematic. He established that the Separatists have quintillions of droids. droids based on the industrial potential shown by the Death Star. Given that the ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' movie novelization, a higher canonical source over his lesser canonical status, pretty much told us implied that the "million more well on the way" was a million clone warriors, he had given the Separatists more than a trillion droids for every clone the other side had.
8th Jun '16 11:07:11 AM Doug86
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* Years ago, Eric Larsen had the ComicBook/SpiderMan villain [[ComicBook/DoctorOctopus Dr. Octopus]] deliver the [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk Hulk]] a [[CurbStompBattle severe smackdown]] during the "Revenge of the Sinister Six" storyarc. In the story, "Doc Ock" was given [[AppliedPhlebotinum extremely powerful adamantium limbs]] which made him far more dangerous. Hulk writer Creator/PeterDavid accused Larsen of a making a personal attack when he wrote that story and responded with a story written for the sole purpose of mocking Dr. Octopus. Larsen denied this, claiming he had used the Hulk to show how deadly Ock had become in a rather obvious demonstration of TheWorfEffect. (And it made sense; what better way to prove a villain has [[TookALevelInBadass Taken a Level in Badass]] than have him beat up the Hulk?)

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* Years ago, Eric Larsen had the ComicBook/SpiderMan villain [[ComicBook/DoctorOctopus Dr. Octopus]] deliver the [[ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk Hulk]] a [[CurbStompBattle severe smackdown]] during the "Revenge of the Sinister Six" storyarc. In the story, "Doc Ock" was given [[AppliedPhlebotinum extremely powerful adamantium limbs]] which made him far more dangerous. Hulk writer Creator/PeterDavid accused Larsen of a making a personal attack when he wrote that story and responded with a story written for the sole purpose of mocking Dr. Octopus. Larsen denied this, claiming he had used the Hulk to show how deadly Ock had become in a rather obvious demonstration of TheWorfEffect. (And it made sense; what better way to prove a villain has [[TookALevelInBadass Taken a Level in Badass]] than have him beat up the Hulk?)
22nd May '16 12:06:01 AM Anddrix
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* Writer Alan Grant was told straight up that this would be the fate of his ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' character ComicBook/{{Anarky}}, who he'd set out to establish as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker's son. Originally conceived as a plan by ''Anarky'' illustrator, Norm Breyfogle, to create tension in the character, Grant approached Dennis O'Neil, who had editorial oversight on all Batman books at the time. O'Neil was dead-set against the idea, but gave permission on the express condition that it wouldn't be true, and would be revealed as false months later, whether by Grant or by another writer. As the series was canceled before this could happen, it remains unaddressed. With the establishment of the New 52, it no longer exists as a hanging storyline at all.

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* Writer Alan Grant was told straight up that this would be the fate of his ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' character ComicBook/{{Anarky}}, who he'd set out to establish as SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker's ComicBook/TheJoker's son. Originally conceived as a plan by ''Anarky'' illustrator, Norm Breyfogle, to create tension in the character, Grant approached Dennis O'Neil, who had editorial oversight on all Batman books at the time. O'Neil was dead-set against the idea, but gave permission on the express condition that it wouldn't be true, and would be revealed as false months later, whether by Grant or by another writer. As the series was canceled before this could happen, it remains unaddressed. With the establishment of the New 52, it no longer exists as a hanging storyline at all.
14th May '16 8:14:08 PM jerodast
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*** As a side note, some of these were only points of contention at the time, and later became official Blizzard canonicity as well through the usual monthly retcons of the continuity snarl. The death knights' addition showed that all undead do have free will, the high and blood elves were just two of the survivor splinter factions, etc.
14th May '16 1:42:38 AM Doug86
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* When Creator/ChrisClaremont wrote Margali Szardos as "Sorceress Supreme" over in Comicbook/{{X-Men}}, the writer of Comicbook/DoctorStrange responded with a story revealing that she had been possessed and really had no magical powers at all.

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* When Creator/ChrisClaremont wrote Margali Szardos as "Sorceress Supreme" over in Comicbook/{{X-Men}}, Comicbook/XMen, the writer of Comicbook/DoctorStrange responded with a story revealing that she had been possessed and really had no magical powers at all.
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