History Main / AppealToFlattery

1st Sep '16 11:22:51 AM Fireblood
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* While people of any belief, or lack thereof, are prone to this, an example is the atheist website "Rational Wiki" (as shown by the name).
31st Aug '16 11:31:22 PM BroTim11
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* Some proponents of the New Atheist movement are prone to this in RealLife. An example of this is the website "Rational Wiki" (as shown by the name).

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* Some proponents While people of the New Atheist movement any belief, or lack thereof, are prone to this in RealLife. An this, an example of this is the atheist website "Rational Wiki" (as shown by the name).
31st Aug '16 11:30:29 PM BroTim11
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* Some proponents of the New Atheist movement are prone to this in RealLife. An example of this is the website RationalWiki.

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* Some proponents of the New Atheist movement are prone to this in RealLife. An example of this is the website RationalWiki."Rational Wiki" (as shown by the name).
31st Aug '16 11:29:40 PM BroTim11
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* Some proponents of the New Atheist movement are prone to this in RealLife. An example of this is the website RationalWiki.
24th Apr '16 4:31:21 PM Tarlonniel
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Appeal to Flattery has a flip side. It is known as "blocking disagreement" and usually involves a personal attack. [[HypocriticalHumor Of course, only an idiot would fail to recognize this for a fallacy.]]

In a variant, one can appeal to perceived positive qualities of a group and a course of action, without ever establishing a link between them or even demonstrating that the group has those qualities. "Surely loyal, patriotic soldiers like yourselves would be willing to put up with the mild inconvenience of public, mandatory cavity searches of all passengers embarking on a plane in order to make sure terrorists don't threaten our civil liberties."

And of course [[HypocriticalHumor witty, tolerant tropers such as yourselves]] would have the patience to bear with a [[RuleOfThree third example]] of HypocriticalHumor in what is becoming a RunningGag.



* Anytime an advert implies that only intelligent, strong or popular people buy its products.
** This overlaps with the BandwagonFallacy, and [[HypocriticalHumor surely a rapidly growing contingent of very intelligent, clever, and sexy tropers]] would see how an advertisement can easily commit both at once.
* When someone begins a sentence with "Surely even an idiot cannot deny that ..." or "Obviously, it is true that ...", this trope is likely (but not always) being used. The implication for the first one is that a person who denies the claim is worse than an idiot; the second implies that, if you don't think it is true, you are missing the obvious.
** Often used by conspiracy theorists. For example, "Don't tell me ur 2 stupid to realize 9/11 was an inside job lol."
** Some Democrats in the US claimed that, on average, Democrats were more intelligent than the opposing Republicans. [[NotSoDifferent Naturally,]] some Republicans have put forth [[http://therightstuff.biz/2014/11/05/republicans-are-smarter-than-democrats/ similar]] [[http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/03/10/pew-makes-it-official-republicans-are-smarter-than-democrats-54686 claims.]]
*** This also serves as an example of the FallacyFallacy. There is [[http://www3.norc.org/GSS+Website/ some evidence]] that those who identify as "very liberal" in the United States have a mean IQ about ten points higher than those who identify as "very conservative." The Democrats are using a fallacious AppealToFlattery, but that does not mean the results of the General Social Survey or the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health - the sources of these claims - can be dismissed just on those grounds. It gets more complex because intelligence correlates best with the philosophy of classical liberalism, a belief that has ties both to left-liberalism and to libertarianism. The former is very close the Democrat's position, but neither party reflects the intellectual tradition of classical liberalism via libertarianism very well.

Appeal to Flattery has a flip side. It is known as "blocking disagreement" and usually involves a personal attack. [[HypocriticalHumor Of course, only an idiot would fail to recognize this for a fallacy.]]

In a variant, one can appeal to perceived positive qualities of a group and a course of action, without ever establishing a link between them or even demonstrating that the group has those qualities. "Surely loyal, patriotic soldiers like yourselves would be willing to put up with the mild inconvenience of public, mandatory cavity searches of all passengers embarking on a plane in order to make sure terrorists don't threaten our civil liberties."
** And of course [[HypocriticalHumor witty, tolerant tropers such as yourselves]] would have the patience to bear with a [[RuleOfThree third example]] of HypocriticalHumor in what is becoming a RunningGag.

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* Anytime an advert implies that only intelligent, strong or popular people buy its products.
** This overlaps with the BandwagonFallacy, and [[HypocriticalHumor surely a rapidly growing contingent of very intelligent, clever, and sexy tropers]] would see how an advertisement can easily commit both at once.
* When someone begins a sentence with "Surely even an idiot cannot deny that ..." or "Obviously, it is true that ...", this trope is likely (but not always) being used. The implication for the first one is that a person who denies the claim is worse than an idiot; the second implies that, if you don't think it is true, you are missing the obvious.
** Often used by conspiracy theorists. For example, "Don't tell me ur 2 stupid to realize 9/11 was an inside job lol."
** Some Democrats in the US claimed that, on average, Democrats were more intelligent than the opposing Republicans. [[NotSoDifferent Naturally,]] some Republicans have put forth [[http://therightstuff.biz/2014/11/05/republicans-are-smarter-than-democrats/ similar]] [[http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/03/10/pew-makes-it-official-republicans-are-smarter-than-democrats-54686 claims.]]
*** This also serves as an example of the FallacyFallacy. There is [[http://www3.norc.org/GSS+Website/ some evidence]] that those who identify as "very liberal" in the United States have a mean IQ about ten points higher than those who identify as "very conservative." The Democrats are using a fallacious AppealToFlattery, but that does not mean the results of the General Social Survey or the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health - the sources of these claims - can be dismissed just on those grounds. It gets more complex because intelligence correlates best with the philosophy of classical liberalism, a belief that has ties both to left-liberalism and to libertarianism. The former is very close the Democrat's position, but neither party reflects the intellectual tradition of classical liberalism via libertarianism very well.

Appeal to Flattery has a flip side. It is known as "blocking disagreement" and usually involves a personal attack. [[HypocriticalHumor Of course, only an idiot would fail to recognize this for a fallacy.]]

In a variant, one can appeal to perceived positive qualities of a group and a course of action, without ever establishing a link between them or even demonstrating that the group has those qualities. "Surely loyal, patriotic soldiers like yourselves would be willing to put up with the mild inconvenience of public, mandatory cavity searches of all passengers embarking on a plane in order to make sure terrorists don't threaten our civil liberties."
** And of course [[HypocriticalHumor witty, tolerant tropers such as yourselves]] would have the patience to bear with a [[RuleOfThree third example]] of HypocriticalHumor in what is becoming a RunningGag.
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4th Jun '15 3:21:55 PM poi99
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** The Democratic political party in the US claimed that, on average, Democrats were more intelligent than the opposing Republicans.

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** The Democratic political party Some Democrats in the US claimed that, on average, Democrats were more intelligent than the opposing Republicans.Republicans. [[NotSoDifferent Naturally,]] some Republicans have put forth [[http://therightstuff.biz/2014/11/05/republicans-are-smarter-than-democrats/ similar]] [[http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/03/10/pew-makes-it-official-republicans-are-smarter-than-democrats-54686 claims.]]
27th Jan '14 10:25:36 AM LongLiveHumour
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* This is one of many techniques Palpatine uses to manipulate Anakin in the ''StarWars'' prequels. He tells Anakin that he is the most awesome Jedi ever and that he is just way too awesome to take orders from that silly Jedi Council, who are clearly [[YoureJustJealous Just Jealous]] if they don't treat someone as awesome as Anakin with the proper reverence. This works extremely well because it's exactly what Anakin ''wants'' to believe.

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* This is one of many techniques Palpatine uses to manipulate Anakin in the ''StarWars'' ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels. He tells Anakin that he is the most awesome Jedi ever and that he is just way too awesome to take orders from that silly Jedi Council, who are clearly [[YoureJustJealous Just Jealous]] if they don't treat someone as awesome as Anakin with the proper reverence. This works extremely well because it's exactly what Anakin ''wants'' to believe.
11th Sep '13 7:39:53 PM TheDocCC
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*** This also serves as an example of the FallacyFallacy. There is [[http://www3.norc.org/GSS+Website/ some evidence]] that those who identify as "very liberal" in the United States have a mean IQ about ten points higher than those who identify as "very conservative." The Democrats are using a fallacious AppealToFlattery, but that does not mean the results of the General Social Survey or the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health - the sources of these claims - can be dismissed just on those grounds. It gets more complex because intelligence correlates best with the philosophy of classical liberalism, a belief that has ties both to left-liberalism and to libertarianism. The former is very close the Democrat's position, but neither party reflects the intellectual tradition of classical liberalism via libertarianism very well.
8th Jul '13 5:49:09 PM Luigifan
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::Another simple fallacy in which it is suggested that accepting a particular conclusion speaks well of the person who accepts it. This is a variant of Appeal to Consequences, since the unstated suggestion is that if someone does ''not'' accept the argument, the flattery is untrue. Very, very popular in advertising.

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::Another simple fallacy in which it is suggested that accepting a particular conclusion speaks well of the person who accepts it. This is a variant of Appeal {{Appeal to Consequences, Consequences}}, since the unstated suggestion is that if someone does ''not'' accept the argument, the flattery is untrue. Very, very popular in advertising.




In a variant, one can appeal to perceived positive qualities of a group and a course of action, without ever establishing a link between them or even demonstrating that the group has those qualities. "Surely loyal, patriotic soldiers like yourselves would be willing to put up with the mild inconvenience of public, mandatory cavity searches of all passengers embarking on a plane in order to make sure terrorists don't threaten our civil liberties."

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\n In a variant, one can appeal to perceived positive qualities of a group and a course of action, without ever establishing a link between them or even demonstrating that the group has those qualities. "Surely loyal, patriotic soldiers like yourselves would be willing to put up with the mild inconvenience of public, mandatory cavity searches of all passengers embarking on a plane in order to make sure terrorists don't threaten our civil liberties."
30th Jun '13 2:12:14 PM Azzizzi
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** The Democratic political party in the US claimed that, on average, Democrats were more intelligent than the opposing Republicans.
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