History Main / AnimalTesting

23rd Mar '17 1:44:13 AM Carnel
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It's pretty obvious that even in fiction, there are no easy answers. For a start, whichever side of the debate that the show/book/comic falls in, it will probably caricature the other side - either scientists are evil animal killers who will do anything ForScience, or anyone who has anything to do with animal rights is a misinformed and fanatical vigilante or a NaziByAnyOtherName. It would be extremely unusual for a scientist and an animal rights person to sit down and have a civil conversation about their differing points of view (for a start, it makes for [[RuleOfDrama pretty bad drama]].)

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It's pretty obvious that even in fiction, there are no easy answers. For a start, whichever side of the debate that the show/book/comic falls in, it will probably caricature the other side - either scientists are evil animal killers who will do anything ForScience, or anyone who has anything to do with animal rights is a misinformed and fanatical vigilante or a NaziByAnyOtherName.ANaziByAnyOtherName. It would be extremely unusual for a scientist and an animal rights person to sit down and have a civil conversation about their differing points of view (for a start, it makes for [[RuleOfDrama pretty bad drama]].)
23rd Mar '17 1:43:48 AM Carnel
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* '''You will probably NOT see''': the people whose lives have been saved via medical research; their families; the actual point of the procedures themselves; the ordinary lives of the scientists; the animals being looked after in any way; proposals for a viable alternative ([[ThoseWackyNazis some]] tried [[TestedOnHumans less acceptable ones]]).

It's pretty obvious that even in fiction, there are no easy answers. For a start, whichever side of the debate that the show/book/comic falls in, it will probably caricature the other side - either scientists are evil animal killers who will do anything ForScience, or anyone who has anything to do with animal rights is a misinformed and fanatical vigilante. It would be extremely unusual for a scientist and an animal rights person to sit down and have a civil conversation about their differing points of view (for a start, it makes for [[RuleOfDrama pretty bad drama]].)

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* '''You will probably NOT see''': the people whose lives have been saved via medical research; their families; the actual point of the procedures themselves; the ordinary lives of the scientists; the animals being looked after in any way; proposals for a viable alternative ([[ThoseWackyNazis some]] tried [[TestedOnHumans less acceptable ones]]).

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It's pretty obvious that even in fiction, there are no easy answers. For a start, whichever side of the debate that the show/book/comic falls in, it will probably caricature the other side - either scientists are evil animal killers who will do anything ForScience, or anyone who has anything to do with animal rights is a misinformed and fanatical vigilante.vigilante or a NaziByAnyOtherName. It would be extremely unusual for a scientist and an animal rights person to sit down and have a civil conversation about their differing points of view (for a start, it makes for [[RuleOfDrama pretty bad drama]].)
4th Mar '17 6:10:13 PM Carnel
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* '''You will see:''' The LittlestCancerPatient, desperate for the laboratory to come up with a miracle cure; those who owe their lives to the research in the lab; families of seriously ill patients; affable scientists dedicated to preserving human life; the AnimalWrongsGroup, possibly the scientists looking after the animals and a few [[YouDirtyRat rats]] pottering around their cages in some fairly benign experiments.

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* '''You will see:''' The LittlestCancerPatient, desperate for the laboratory to come up with a miracle cure; those who owe their lives to the research in the lab; families of seriously ill patients; affable scientists dedicated to preserving human life; the AnimalWrongsGroup, possibly the scientists looking after the animals and a few [[YouDirtyRat rats]] pottering around their cages in some fairly benign experiments. Rarely, GodwinsLaw is invoked on those protesting against it (see below), [[FalseDichotomy equating that those who don't support animal testing must support experimentation on humans instead.]]



* '''You will probably NOT see''': the people whose lives have been saved via medical research; their families; the actual point of the procedures themselves; the ordinary lives of the scientists; the animals being looked after in any way; proposals for a viable alternative ([[ThoseWackyNazis some]] tried less acceptable ones).

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* '''You will probably NOT see''': the people whose lives have been saved via medical research; their families; the actual point of the procedures themselves; the ordinary lives of the scientists; the animals being looked after in any way; proposals for a viable alternative ([[ThoseWackyNazis some]] tried [[TestedOnHumans less acceptable ones).ones]]).



See also AnimalWrongsGroup and ScienceIsBad for in-universe negative connotations towards this.

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See also AnimalWrongsGroup and ScienceIsBad for in-universe negative connotations towards this.
this. See TestedOnHumans for the ''much maligned'' [[TakeAThirdOption third option]].
18th Jan '17 4:52:59 AM thatawesomedude13
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* ''VideoGame/Whiplash''.You play as two animals attempting to escape a lab.Note the sheer ridiculousness of the experiments being performed

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* ''VideoGame/Whiplash''.''VideoGame/{{Whiplash}}''.You play as two animals attempting to escape a lab.Note the sheer ridiculousness of the experiments being performed
18th Jan '17 4:52:01 AM thatawesomedude13
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* ''VideoGame/Whiplash''.You play as two animals attempting to escape a lab.Note the sheer ridiculousness of the experiments being performed
27th Dec '16 5:44:41 PM Dravencour
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* '''You will see:''' The LittlestCancerPatient, desperate for the laboratory to come up with a miracle cure; those who owe their lives to the research in the lab; familes of seriously ill patients; affable scientists dedicated to preserving human life; the Animal Wrongs Group, possibly the scientists looking after the animals and a few [[YouDirtyRat rats]] pottering around their cages in some fairly benign experiments.

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* '''You will see:''' The LittlestCancerPatient, desperate for the laboratory to come up with a miracle cure; those who owe their lives to the research in the lab; familes families of seriously ill patients; affable scientists dedicated to preserving human life; the Animal Wrongs Group, AnimalWrongsGroup, possibly the scientists looking after the animals and a few [[YouDirtyRat rats]] pottering around their cages in some fairly benign experiments. experiments.
27th Dec '16 5:43:59 PM Dravencour
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* '''You will probably NOT see:''' the gorier of the procedures; dead animals; cosmetic testing; very much of the animal subjects themselves (unless the scene is set up to show the scientist caring for them), far less their viewpoint; cats, dogs and [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute other cute animals]] that are kept as pets or that people [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys tend to have an affinity for]]; an animal rights person with any semblance of sanity.

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* '''You will probably NOT see:''' the gorier of the procedures; dead animals; cosmetic testing; very much of the animal subjects themselves (unless the scene is set up to show the scientist caring for them), far less their viewpoint; cats, dogs and [[WhatMeasureIsANonCute other cute animals]] that are kept as pets or that people [[EverythingsBetterWithMonkeys tend to have an affinity for]]; an animal rights person activist with any semblance of sanity.
12th Sep '16 10:51:39 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheTimeTravelersWife featured a geneticist experimenting on mice to make them time travel in order to figure out a cure, but there isn't much said or implied one way or the other about the morality of doing so.

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* TheTimeTravelersWife ''Literature/TheTimeTravelersWife'' featured a geneticist experimenting on mice to make them time travel in order to figure out a cure, but there isn't much said or implied one way or the other about the morality of doing so.
14th Aug '16 9:57:15 AM zarpaulus
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* ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'': The reason why Dr. Schlock wears an eyepatch? When he was younger he tried testing cosmetics on [[KillerRabbit Bun-Bun]].
1st Aug '16 7:25:15 AM matteste
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* Parodied in the comic ''Betty''. Plenty of question marks followed upon one of the characters reading the label for a dog shampoo product.
-->"Dog Shampoo, Not tested on animals."
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