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13th May '16 7:32:54 PM Woggs123
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* VideoGame/FallenLondon has devils walking the street and squid-faced citizens known as the Rubbery Men, although oddly there don't appear to be any angels. The Church does have a large presence in the city though.[[Spoiler: The Rubbery Men are just regular aliens. The actual Squid role is played by [[LightIsNotGood the stars themselves.]]]]

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* VideoGame/FallenLondon has devils walking the street and squid-faced citizens known as the Rubbery Men, although oddly there don't appear to be any angels. The Church does have a large presence in the city though.[[Spoiler: [[spoiler: The Rubbery Men are just regular aliens. The actual Squid role is played by [[LightIsNotGood the stars themselves.]]]]
13th May '16 7:32:24 PM Woggs123
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* VideoGame/FallenLondon has devils walking the street and squid-faced citizens known as the Rubbery Men, although oddly there don't appear to be any angels. The Church does have a large presence in the city though.

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* VideoGame/FallenLondon has devils walking the street and squid-faced citizens known as the Rubbery Men, although oddly there don't appear to be any angels. The Church does have a large presence in the city though.[[Spoiler: The Rubbery Men are just regular aliens. The actual Squid role is played by [[LightIsNotGood the stars themselves.]]]]
7th May '16 4:06:57 PM nombretomado
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* ''GoodOmens'' turns this trope on its head a bit. The heavenly host and the armies of hell play the squids, working in tandem but not together to bring about the apocalypse, with a lot of talk about an "ineffable" plan that none of the humans and not even the angels or demons can understand. A third faction consisting of a single angel, a single demon, and a few humans (including a witch, a witch hunter, and the AntiChrist) is trying to prevent the apocalypse. This third faction alternates between playing the role of the demons and the angels, thanks to having nominal members of the other two factions, and various humans trying to uphold or subvert the order around them.

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* ''GoodOmens'' ''Literature/GoodOmens'' turns this trope on its head a bit. The heavenly host and the armies of hell play the squids, working in tandem but not together to bring about the apocalypse, with a lot of talk about an "ineffable" plan that none of the humans and not even the angels or demons can understand. A third faction consisting of a single angel, a single demon, and a few humans (including a witch, a witch hunter, and the AntiChrist) is trying to prevent the apocalypse. This third faction alternates between playing the role of the demons and the angels, thanks to having nominal members of the other two factions, and various humans trying to uphold or subvert the order around them.
14th Apr '16 12:54:44 PM Godzillawolf
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* In the ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'', the Alicorns and Draconequi are the 'angels' side (as despite representing Order and Chaos respectively, they're both actively benevolent, with even Havoc, who rules Tartarus, being more of its prison warden than the devil), while Discord and Morning Star are the 'demons' side (with [[[FallenAngel Fallen Alicorns and Draconequi]] being called Devils and Demons respectively). The Pain Monsters sealed deep within Tartarus also fit, being very demon-like. The 'Squids' are the [[EldritchAbomination Outer Concepts]], a third family of gods born from their [[TopGod Elder]], Azerhorse. They're so completely alien that they're not only different from the Alicorns and Draconequi in every sense, but can't even relate to ''each other''. They collectively represent the Fear of the Unknown and exist to keep mortals from being too reckless in their progress. There's also a ''fourth'' variety of deity who are a part of none of the above families, which includes Mother Deer ([[spoiler:actually the Tree of Harmony, which is born of both order AND chaos]]), Queen Tiamat, and King Bahamut.

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2nd Apr '16 3:47:54 AM TSBasilisk
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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' have a loose version in their universe's mythology. Aedra and Daedra equate loosely with the Angels and Devils, respectively, while the squid is represented by Sithis, a primordial spirit representing the void and chaos incarnate.
** There actual is a lot of variety among the daedra. Among the Daedric Princes, Molag Bal and Mehrunes Dagon are the most demonic by far. Hermaeus Mora is a Squid, as he looks like a large eye or several large eyes surrounded by tentacles and many smaller eyes and has no interest in good or bad, he just wants to hoard all knowledge in the universe. Meridia and Azura are the most angelic. The rest of the Deadric Princes are more demonic although most of them have both good and evil traits, though some lean much further to good or evil than others. The various lesser Daedra have a similar amount of variety, from the demonic dremora, to the squid like seekers and the elemental atronachs. As for the Aedra, we know far less about them due to a huge amount of UnreliableNarrator and most are either dead or don't interact much with mortals. The one that we have the most accurate information about is Alduin, who is more demonic than anything, although his father Akatosh was good. Anui-El and Sithis, also called Anu and Padomay, the entities from which Aedra and Deadra are descended are even more obscured. For some the two of them are the ultimate gods of good and evil respectively, and to others they are not gods at all but are unintelligent natural forces, or one of several other theories so they could be angel, devil, squid, or none depending on which of the many creation myths is the most accurate, and it is important to point out that in some versions Padomay/Sithis was the good guy rather than Anu/Anui-El.

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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' have a loose version in their universe's mythology. Aedra and Daedra the more friendly Daedra, such as Azura, roughly equate loosely with to the Angels and Devils, respectively, angels while the squid is represented by Sithis, a primordial spirit representing the void and chaos incarnate.
** There actual is a lot of variety among the daedra. Among the Daedric Princes, Molag Bal and
more hostile Daedra, such as Mehrunes Dagon Dagon, equate to the devils. The squid are the most demonic by far. more alien of the Daedra, such as Hermaeus Mora is a Squid, as he looks like a large eye or several large eyes surrounded by tentacles and many smaller eyes and has no interest in good or bad, he just wants to hoard all knowledge in the universe. Meridia and Azura are the most angelic. The rest of the Deadric Princes are more demonic although most of them have both good and evil traits, though some lean much further to good or evil than others. The various lesser Daedra have a similar amount of variety, from the demonic dremora, to the squid like seekers and the elemental atronachs. As for the Aedra, we know far less about them due to a huge amount of UnreliableNarrator and most are either dead or don't interact much with mortals. The one that we have the most accurate information about is Alduin, who is more demonic than anything, although his father Akatosh was good. Anui-El Mora, and Sithis, also called Anu the primal force of chaos and Padomay, the entities from which Aedra and Deadra are descended are even more obscured. For some the two of them are the ultimate gods of good and evil respectively, and to others they are not gods at all but are unintelligent natural forces, or one of several other theories so they could be angel, devil, squid, or none depending on which of the many creation myths is the most accurate, and it is important to point out that in some versions Padomay/Sithis was the good guy rather than Anu/Anui-El.void lurking outside existence.
20th Mar '16 4:45:58 PM Pyrentis
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* VideoGame/FallenLondon has devils walking the street and squid-faced citizens known as the Rubber Men, although oddly there don't appear to be any angels. The Church does have a large presence in the city though.

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* VideoGame/FallenLondon has devils walking the street and squid-faced citizens known as the Rubber Rubbery Men, although oddly there don't appear to be any angels. The Church does have a large presence in the city though.
29th Feb '16 7:34:06 PM OminousBoardOfInvestors
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* Demons in ''[[NexusWar Nexus Clash]]'' are divided into archetypical devils ruled by the iron fist of [[ManipulativeBastard Tlacolotl]] and BodyHorror-based tentacles and gibbering masses of flesh drawn from the incomprehensible body and mind of [[EldritchAbomination Tholaghru]]. The angels' response to both is usually some combination of KillItWithFire and HolyHandGrenade.

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* Demons While some demons in ''[[NexusWar "[[NexusWar Nexus Clash]]'' are divided into archetypical devils Clash]]" ruled by the iron fist of [[ManipulativeBastard Tlacolotl]] tend to take after [[BigRedDevil the archetypical "horned devil" image,]] many others, especially those born of [[ChaosIsEvil Tholaghru]], exhibit [[CombatTentacles tentacles]] and BodyHorror-based tentacles and gibbering [[HellIsThatNoise gibbering]] [[MeatMoss masses of flesh drawn from flesh]] and BodyHorror, [[Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz oh my!]] Meanwhile [[VoidBetweenTheWorlds beyond the incomprehensible body and mind of void,]] the actual [[EldritchAbomination Tholaghru]]. The angels' response Eldritch Abominations]] just as often turn out to both is usually some combination be EnergyBeings of KillItWithFire and HolyHandGrenade.endlessly varied types. Angels [[KnightTemplar aren't exactly fond of either,]] but at least (usually) have an incentive to work together with our cuddly little [[AboveGoodAndEvil unaligned]] eldritch [[AdorableAbomination Squiddle-Buddies.]]
20th Dec '15 10:27:55 AM NOYB
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** There actual is a lot of variety among the daedra. Among the Deadric Princes Molag Bal and Mehrunes Dagon are the most demonic by far. Hermaeus Mora is a Squid, as he looks like a large eye or several large eyes surrounded by tentacles and many smaller eyes and has no interest in good or bad, he just wants to hoard all knowledge in the universe. Meridia and Azura are the most angelic. The rest of the Deadric Princes are more demonic although most of them have both good and evil traits, though some lean much further to good or evil than others. The various lesser Daedra have a similar amount of variety, from the demonic dremora, to the squid like seekers and the elemental atronachs. As for the Aedra, we know far less about them due to a huge amount of UnreliableNarrator and most are either dead or don't interact much with mortals. The one that we have the most accurate information about is Alduin, who is more demonic than anything, although his father Akatosh was good. Anui-El and Sithis, also called Anu and Padomay, the entities from which Aedra and Deadra are descended are even more obscured. For some the two of them are the ultimate gods of good and evil respectively, and to others they are not gods at all but are unintelligent natural forces, or one of several other theories so they could be angel, devil, squid, or none depending on which of the many creation myths is the most accurate, and it is important to point out that in some versions Padomay/Sithis was the good guy rather than Anu/Anui-El.

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** There actual is a lot of variety among the daedra. Among the Deadric Princes Daedric Princes, Molag Bal and Mehrunes Dagon are the most demonic by far. Hermaeus Mora is a Squid, as he looks like a large eye or several large eyes surrounded by tentacles and many smaller eyes and has no interest in good or bad, he just wants to hoard all knowledge in the universe. Meridia and Azura are the most angelic. The rest of the Deadric Princes are more demonic although most of them have both good and evil traits, though some lean much further to good or evil than others. The various lesser Daedra have a similar amount of variety, from the demonic dremora, to the squid like seekers and the elemental atronachs. As for the Aedra, we know far less about them due to a huge amount of UnreliableNarrator and most are either dead or don't interact much with mortals. The one that we have the most accurate information about is Alduin, who is more demonic than anything, although his father Akatosh was good. Anui-El and Sithis, also called Anu and Padomay, the entities from which Aedra and Deadra are descended are even more obscured. For some the two of them are the ultimate gods of good and evil respectively, and to others they are not gods at all but are unintelligent natural forces, or one of several other theories so they could be angel, devil, squid, or none depending on which of the many creation myths is the most accurate, and it is important to point out that in some versions Padomay/Sithis was the good guy rather than Anu/Anui-El.
20th Dec '15 10:20:17 AM NOYB
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* ''Literature/TheChroniclesOfNarnia'' gave us [[CrystalDragonJesus Aslan]] as the Angel, [[SatanicArchetype the White Witch]] as the Devil, and [[spoiler:[[TheAntiGod Tash]]]] as the Squid.
20th Dec '15 10:18:04 AM NOYB
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* Open to interpretation and dissent, but possibly a case in the CanonDiscontinuity Literature/TheChroniclesOfAmber prequels. The canon series gave us the ''Evil'' Courts of Chaos and the ''Good'' City of Amber (for varying degrees of good and evil), while the prequel series started to introduce the Keye, an alien-looking and inscrutable third force that seemed to be trying to manipulate the protagonists.

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* Open to interpretation and dissent, but possibly a case in the CanonDiscontinuity Literature/TheChroniclesOfAmber prequels. The canon series gave us the ''Evil'' Courts of Chaos and the ''Good'' City of Amber (for varying degrees of good and evil), while the prequel series started to introduce the Keye, Feynim, an alien-looking and inscrutable third force that seemed to be trying to manipulate the protagonists.
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