History Main / AncientConspiracy

18th Mar '17 12:19:19 PM nombretomado
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%%* The Masonic group protecting the ''NationalTreasure''.

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%%* The Masonic group protecting the ''NationalTreasure''.''Film/NationalTreasure''.
15th Mar '17 9:09:58 PM SoapheadChurch
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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': SEELE has the trappings of one, but they can't possibly have existed before the 1950s - when the actual Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered - and they couldn't have done much without modern technology anyway; the Evangelion series barely work as it is.
** The extra-canonical material sets the organization to have existed in some form or another since the Dark Ages, but notes that they didn't really rise to any kind of prominence before the 20th Century.

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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': SEELE has the trappings of one, but there's a lot of confusion about exactly ''how'' ancient they can't possibly have existed before really are. The series proper seems to imply that they came into existence near the end of WWII, and came to prominence during the 1950s - when (when the actual real life Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered - and they couldn't have done much without modern technology anyway; the Evangelion series barely work as it is.
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discovered). The extra-canonical material sets (the canonicity of which hovers uncomfortably between WordOfStPaul and WordOfDante) states the organization to have has existed in some form or another since the Dark Ages, but notes that they didn't really rise to any kind of prominence before the 20th Century. They couldn't have done much without modern technology anyway, and their crowning achievement -- [[HumongousMecha the Evangelion series]] -- barely work as it is.



* Yliaster in ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds''. A particularly notable example in that the founders of the organization are ironically [[spoiler: four [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned extremists]] from the future; having harnessed the ability to TimeTravel with the intention of going back and preventing the [[ApocalypseHow global catastrophe that led to the devastated future in which they are the only surviviors]]. It is eventually revealed that the claims of Yliaster being around since ancient times were untrue; they were a relatively new organization with possibly a few members (the ones involved with the Dark Signers) ''inspired'' by the original Star Dragon King.]]

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* Yliaster in ''Anime/YuGiOh5Ds''. A particularly notable example Two versions of it exist in the series:
** The first Yliaster was an Illuminati-like cult founded 3000 years prior to the start of the series in South America. Their goal was to gain control over human society, and to use their power and influence to ensure humanity's survival in the cyclical DivineConflict between the BigGood Crimson Dragon and the EldritchAbomination Earthbound Immortals. The BigBad of the first arc is the leader of the organization, who seeks to [[AGodAmI become an all-powerful god]] so he can end the cycle once and for all.
** The second Yliaster comes about when a three-man BigBadEnsemble uses their powers to take over and CosmicRetcon the previous origin out of existence, with the new origin being
that they were a relatively new organization with possibly a few members (the ones involved with the Dark Signers) ''inspired'' by the original Star Dragon King. In its new incarnation, the founders of the organization are ironically [[spoiler: actually four [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-intentioned extremists]] from the future; having harnessed the ability to TimeTravel with the intention of going back and preventing the [[ApocalypseHow global catastrophe that led to the devastated future in which they are the only surviviors]]. It is eventually revealed This change in depictions was the result of some [[RealLifeWritesThePlot behind-the-scenes difficulties]]: one of the voice actresses had been fired from the show due to her involvement with a cult that had been getting bad press recently; to avoid any scandal, the claims of series producers removed references to cult-like activity, rewriting Yliaster being around since ancient times were untrue; they were a relatively new organization with possibly a few members (the ones involved with the Dark Signers) ''inspired'' by the original Star Dragon King.]] more Sci-Fi origin and a more antagonistic role.
11th Mar '17 2:26:59 PM nombretomado
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* In the novel ''Country of the Blind'', by MichaelFlynn, the ancient conspiracy is not all that ancient, going back only to the early 19th Century, when a handful of American mathematicians, armed with Babbage's Analytical Engine, discovered the science of "cliology" (substantially similar to psychohistory in [[Creator/IsaacAsimov Asimov's]] ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' novels), which can be used to reliably both predict and manipulate the course of historical events. This underground society soon schisms into several antagonistic groups, one of which prefers to play the Ancient Tradition role of usually passive observation (while making killings in the stock market), the others seeking power for its own sake. It eventually develops that there may be another set of cliological societies that emerged in Europe at about the same time, because, as Charles Fort put it, "It steam-engines when it comes steam-engine time."

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* In the novel ''Country of the Blind'', by MichaelFlynn, Creator/MichaelFlynn, the ancient conspiracy is not all that ancient, going back only to the early 19th Century, when a handful of American mathematicians, armed with Babbage's Analytical Engine, discovered the science of "cliology" (substantially similar to psychohistory in [[Creator/IsaacAsimov Asimov's]] ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' novels), which can be used to reliably both predict and manipulate the course of historical events. This underground society soon schisms into several antagonistic groups, one of which prefers to play the Ancient Tradition role of usually passive observation (while making killings in the stock market), the others seeking power for its own sake. It eventually develops that there may be another set of cliological societies that emerged in Europe at about the same time, because, as Charles Fort put it, "It steam-engines when it comes steam-engine time."
8th Mar '17 11:43:57 PM TheWildWestPyro
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*** Scratch 'nationalist'. Most dictatorships, including socialist ones (Stalin being the perfect example) must have had invented imaginary conspiracies to give their regime at last some hint of legitimation. The conspirators were people not fitting into the political milieu of the government: foreigners for nationalists, people of different racial descent for racists, aristocrats for populists, bourgeois for communists etc.

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*** Scratch 'nationalist'. Most dictatorships, including socialist Marxist ones (Stalin being the perfect example) must have had invented imaginary conspiracies to give their regime at last some hint of legitimation. The conspirators were people not fitting into the political milieu of the government: foreigners for nationalists, people of different racial descent for racists, aristocrats for populists, bourgeois for communists etc.
27th Feb '17 4:40:06 PM Amahn
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* James Rollins' ''Literature/SigmaForce'' series has a recurring adversary in The Guild. Early on it's thought to be just a very powerful terrorist organization, but he slowly unfolds more of its backstory with each book. ''The Devil Colony'' and ''Blood Line'' brings their story arc to its (current) conclusion revealing that [[spoiler: their origins can be traced back through every conspiracy organization through history, going back literally thousands of years. With their every action and goal working towards uncovering the secret of immortality, which was once granted by a now extinct herb during biblical times.]]
24th Feb '17 11:35:31 AM ChronoLegion
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* ''Series/{{Timeless}}'': Rittenhouse has apparently been controlling America since the days of the Revolutionary War, and according to the Doc in episode 6, it was founded in 1778 [[spoiler:by a clockmaker named David Rittenhouse]]. The secret is held so tightly that even rumors of the existence of Rittenhouse are violently suppressed before they can spread. [[spoiler:This was Flynn's StartOfDarkness. While working as a contractor for the NSA, he found a series of large transactions between Rittenhouse and Mason Industries (to develop TimeTravel). Four days after he reported it to his boss, there was a home invasion, and his wife and daughter were killed. Flynn himself barely managed to escape and swore to avenge them. Since he has no idea who ordered the hit, his plan is to RetGone Rittenhouse using Mason's time machine, even if it means destroying the US]].

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* ''Series/{{Timeless}}'': Rittenhouse has apparently been controlling America since the days of the Revolutionary War, and according to the Doc in episode 6, it was founded in 1778 [[spoiler:by a clockmaker named David Rittenhouse]]. The secret is held so tightly that even rumors of the existence of Rittenhouse are violently suppressed before they can spread. [[spoiler:This was Flynn's StartOfDarkness. While working as a contractor for the NSA, he found a series of large transactions between Rittenhouse and Mason Industries (to develop TimeTravel). Four days after he reported it to his boss, there was a home invasion, and his wife and daughter were killed. Flynn himself barely managed to escape and swore to avenge them. Since he has no idea who ordered the hit, his plan is to RetGone Rittenhouse using Mason's time machine, even if it means destroying the US]].US. At the end of season 1, Lucy convinces her grandfather in 1954 to gather evidence against Rittenhouse. By the time they meet again in 2017, he has enough solid evidence to arrest all known members of the organization, although, it appears that Rittenhouse has a backup plan in place. She also gives Flynn the name of the man, who ordered the hit on his family, but Flynn is arrested before he can make use of the information. Throughout the season, Lucy learns that she's more intimately connected to Rittenhouse than she likes, as the Cahill family (her father's) is a longstanding member of Rittenhouse. The CliffHanger at the end also has her discover that her mother's family are also Rittenhouse members and that her conception was no accident]].
11th Jan '17 5:36:36 PM nombretomado
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%%* The Order of Denderah from ''{{lonelygirl15}}'' and other Breeniverse series.

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%%* The Order of Denderah from ''{{lonelygirl15}}'' ''WebVideo/Lonelygirl15'' and other Breeniverse series.
8th Jan '17 6:50:02 PM nombretomado
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** Every famous figure in history is a Templar/Assassin/Ally of either side. For the third variety, see LeonardoDaVinci. Yes, ''that'' da Vinci.

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** Every famous figure in history is a Templar/Assassin/Ally of either side. For the third variety, see LeonardoDaVinci.Creator/LeonardoDaVinci. Yes, ''that'' da Vinci.
24th Dec '16 9:52:41 AM StarSword
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* In ''Literature/{{Aeon 14}}: Destiny Lost'', the {{terraform}}ers guild, of all people, has become a BenevolentConspiracy aiming to shepherd humanity out of the [[LostTechnology technological dark age]] brought about by the development of FasterThanLightTravel: the sudden relief of resource strains meant humanity gave up on being efficient, and the ability to travel between stars in weeks or months rather than decades meant interstellar warfare was now possible, [[LostTechnology causing some pre-FTL knowledge to become lost]]. The FGT have covert operatives subtly influencing humanity's governments and sometimes provide new planets beyond their reach to allow threatened populations a fresh start.
20th Dec '16 10:51:35 PM Gamermaster
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* Parodied by ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' with the Illuminutty, a group attempting to keep the secret that [[spoiler:George Washington Carver wasn't the one who really invented Peanut Butter. It was actually Abraham Lincoln's wife who invented it as some bizarre ingredient for calling on spirits. The conspiracy intended to give credit of the invention to an African American to help rebuild race relations after the Civil War, but the plan was delayed due to Lincolns death, and didnt come to fruition until years later when the credit was given to Carver, who did in fact invent all the other peanut stuff, he just hadnt thought of mashing them up and putting them on bread for some reason.]]

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* Parodied by ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'' with the Illuminutty, a group attempting to keep the secret that [[spoiler:George Washington Carver wasn't the one who really invented Peanut Butter. It was actually Abraham Lincoln's wife who invented it as some bizarre ingredient for calling on spirits. The conspiracy intended to give credit of the invention to an African American to help rebuild race relations after the Civil War, but the plan was delayed due to Lincolns death, and didnt didn't come to fruition until years later when the credit was given to Carver, who did in fact invent all the other peanut stuff, he just hadnt hadn't thought of mashing them up and putting them on bread for some reason.]]
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