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5th Dec '16 6:15:19 AM MyFinalEdits
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* Certain political ideologies and figures are widely more (un)popular abroad than at home. In part because each political system in the long run tends towards close elections in a "normal" year[[note]]So in a two party system this would mean that the "left" party moves further to the right as the national consensus moves to the right and the "right" party moves to the left as the national consensus moves to the left, which might end up with a leftist in one country and era being considered a downright reactionary right winger in another country and era. US state level politics are a good example of that phenomenon. In theory the "ideal" candidate of either party is equal amounts ideologically distant from the "median voter" or the voter exactly in the ideological half of the population (i.e. 50% of the country is to the right of the "median voter" and 50% is to the left of that person) In theory, elections are all about swinging the median voter and some people slightly to her left or right. Whether said median voter is a communist or wants to reintroduce feudalism has no importance for this theory.[[/note]] and politicians run for the votes of their own constituencies and (usually) nobody else. Let's just say there was less than enthusiasm on the reelection of UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush in much of Europe and some bewilderment at the hatred towards UsefulNotes/BarackObama in some corners. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and let's leave it at that]].
4th Dec '16 10:05:11 PM icewater
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* The Holocaust documentary ''Film/{{Shoah}}'' was critically acclaimed almost everywhere, winning several "best documentary of the year" awards and being voted #2 of all time by ''Sight and Sound.'' In Poland, however, the movie is utterly loathed. It was never going to be popular, considering it's about Poland's assisting in the Holocaust. But the film's refusal to acknowledge the many Poles, who ''did'' save Jews or who suffered ethnic persecution under the Nazi regime, was a pretty heavy nail in the coffin of Poles ever appreciating the film.

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* The Holocaust documentary ''Film/{{Shoah}}'' '''Film/{{Shoah}}'' was critically acclaimed almost everywhere, winning several "best documentary of the year" awards and being voted #2 of all time by ''Sight and Sound.'' In Poland, however, the movie is utterly loathed.loathed, including by the Central Polish-Jewish Committee who [[http://wyborcza.pl/1,76842,7694169,25_lat_sporow_o__Shoah_.html filed a letter of protest]] with the French Embassy in Warsaw in response to the film. It was never going to be popular, considering it's about Poland's assisting in the Holocaust. But the film's refusal to acknowledge the many Poles, who ''did'' save Jews [[note]]There were far more Polish Righteous Among Nations (gentiles who helped Jews) [[https://www.ushmm.org/information/press/press-releases/collaboration-and-complicity-during-the-holocaust than any other nationality in the world.]] Despite the fact that Poland was the one country where the Nazis order the death penalty for anyone helping Jews. [[/note]] or who suffered ethnic persecution under the Nazi regime, was a pretty heavy nail in the coffin of Poles ever appreciating the film.
30th Nov '16 7:28:45 AM pinkdalek
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* ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}'': Very popular in Europe, where the time period of the comic (UsefulNotes/AncientRome) is more prominent in the culture, architecture and landscape. Still it has been universally translated and sold. Only in the U.S.A. and Japan it never caught on (you can find the comics pretty easily in the US; just don't expect anyone else to be familiar with it unless they're a Europhile). It's more popular in Canada (which has stronger European, especially French, cultural connections) but still isn't anywhere near mainstream. Part of the reason might be that a lot of jokes in the comics are commentaries about culture and modern life, which are way easier to understand for Europeans - e.g. the running gag that fish sold in a coastal village is delivered from the antique equivalent of Paris.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Asterix}}'': Very popular in Europe, where the time period of the comic (UsefulNotes/AncientRome) is more prominent in the culture, architecture and landscape. Still it has been universally translated and sold. Only in the U.S.A. and Japan it never caught on (you can find the comics pretty easily in the US; just don't expect anyone else to be familiar with it unless they're a Europhile). It's more popular in Canada (which has stronger European, especially French, cultural connections) but still isn't anywhere near mainstream. Part mainstream.
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of the reason might be that a lot of jokes in the comics are commentaries about culture and modern life, which are way easier to understand for Europeans - e.g. the running gag that fish sold in a coastal village is delivered from the antique equivalent of Paris. Paris.
**Another big part is that a lot of the humour is based around transplanting modern stereotypes about European countries to their historical equivalents - jokes about Belgian tribesman eating mayonnaise and Corsicans having switchblade swords are funny if you're a continental European, but nonsensical if you're American. Even nations that Americans do have stereotypes about (France, Germany, Britain, Italy, Spain, Scotland) get treated from the French point of view, or from an unusual angle to avoid [[DudeNotFunny making jokes Goscinny thought would be considered more offensive than playful]]. ''Asterix'' dealt with American stereotypes in ''Asterix Conquers America'', where the added racial elements of having Native Americans act in stereotypical ways come off as just not funny to American readers (the jokes were heavily reworked for the film version to avoid alienating American audiences); and in ''Asterix and The Falling Sky'', which is [[FanonDiscontinuity very low quality]] as well as horrendously racist against the Japanese.
** Europeans have a long history of stereotyping and making fun of each other, and such humour is not considered particularly offensive in Europe so long as you're not referencing old wars or making fun of genocide. In America, a melting pot where immigrants from various European countries attempted to keep a personal cultural identity while living with others doing the same, many experiencing serious class oppression due to coming from the wrong 'old country', it comes off as much more mean-spirited.
** The crows'-nest pirate was recognised by the comics' original French audience as a parody of a character from a serious pirate ''bandes dessinée'', so his [[{{Blackface}} caricatured features]] were a way of swiping at comic books taking themselves too seriously. To American audiences (and many modern European audiences) he's a morally indefensible EthnicScrappy.
20th Nov '16 2:00:53 PM Jhonny
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* Certain political ideologies and figures are widely more (un)popular abroad than at home. In part because each political system in the long run tends towards close elections in a "normal" year[[note]]So in a two party system this would mean that the "left" party moves further to the right as the national consensus moves to the right and the "right" party moves to the left as the national consensus moves to the left, which might end up with a leftist in one country and era being considered a downright reactionary right winger in another country and era. US state level politics are a good example of that phenomenon. In theory the "ideal" candidate of either party is equal amounts ideologically distant from the "median voter" or the voter exactly in the ideological half of the population (i.e. 50% of the country is to the right of the "median voter" and 50% is to the left of that person) In theory, elections are all about swinging the median voter and some people slightly to her left or right. Whether said median voter is a communist or wants to reintroduce feudalism has no importance for this theory.[[/note]] and politicians run for the votes of their own constituencies and (usually) nobody else. Let's just say there was less than enthusiasm on the reelection of UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush in much of Europe and some bewilderment at the hatred towards UsefulNotes/BarackObama in some corners. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and let's leave it at that]].
20th Nov '16 4:40:04 AM mimitchi33
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* ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'' wasn't that popular in France. It never reached #1 due to the huge successes of ''Film/{{Pixels}}'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Minions}}'' and ''One Wild Moment''. This could be because the dub voices were lackluster (most notably the ones chosen for Joy and Bing Bong) and the plot was too complex for French children to comprehend.



* Preschool shows that utilize FakeInteractivity, such as ''WesternAnimation/DoraTheExplorer'' and ''WesternAnimation/MickeyMouseClubhouse'', aren't as well-liked in Japan as they are in other parts of the world, possibly because Japanese children don't like being talked down to by other people. Not helping matters is that any attempt to air these types of preschool shows in Japan have been met with ratings lower than any domestic animation aired in the country (for example, TV Tokyo's broadcast of Dora was constantly the lowest-rated animated show on Japanese broadcast TV.)

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* Preschool shows that utilize FakeInteractivity, such as ''WesternAnimation/DoraTheExplorer'' and ''WesternAnimation/MickeyMouseClubhouse'', aren't as well-liked in Japan as they are in other parts of the world, possibly because Japanese children don't like being talked down to by other people. Not helping matters is that any attempt to air these types of preschool shows in Japan have been met with ratings lower than any domestic animation aired in the country (for countr. For example, TV Tokyo's broadcast of when Dora aired on TV Tokyo, it was constantly the lowest-rated animated show on Japanese broadcast TV.)
16th Nov '16 7:37:22 PM TropesForever
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* ''WesternAnimation/YinYangYo'' is universally despised in France. And so is ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'', to the point that '''FOOP'S VOICE ACTOR''' disowned the series more than Creator/RobPaulsen did for ''WesternAnimation/{{Bubsy}}''. '''Damn!'''

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* ''WesternAnimation/YinYangYo'' is universally despised in France. And so is ''WesternAnimation/TheFairlyOddparents'', to the point that '''FOOP'S VOICE ACTOR''' Foop's voice actor disowned the series more than Creator/RobPaulsen did for ''WesternAnimation/{{Bubsy}}''. '''Damn!'''''Damn!''
6th Nov '16 2:29:48 PM nombretomado
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* ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'' wasn't much of a hit in China, despite famous voice actors such as JackieChan and adapting a local folk tale. Some blame piracy, some worry that the native audience took issue with [[BroadStrokes the extensive reworking]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks of the original myth]], and some point to the fact that the Chinese government was in the middle of a bitter and spiteful dispute with the Walt Disney corporation and forced the film to languish for a year before letting it out with an unfavorable release date just after the Chinese New Year's celebration stuffed the box office with other films. Ten years later, [=DreamWorks=]'s ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' would prove much more to Chinese tastes, with much less behind-the-scenes drama.

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* ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'' wasn't much of a hit in China, despite famous voice actors such as JackieChan Creator/JackieChan and adapting a local folk tale. Some blame piracy, some worry that the native audience took issue with [[BroadStrokes the extensive reworking]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks of the original myth]], and some point to the fact that the Chinese government was in the middle of a bitter and spiteful dispute with the Walt Disney corporation and forced the film to languish for a year before letting it out with an unfavorable release date just after the Chinese New Year's celebration stuffed the box office with other films. Ten years later, [=DreamWorks=]'s ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' would prove much more to Chinese tastes, with much less behind-the-scenes drama.
22nd Oct '16 3:43:53 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Film/{{Bruno}}'' zigzags this. While Austrians found the gay stereotypes of Austria and Austrians ActuallyPrettyFunny, as Austria is a very progressive country towards LGBT, the jokes where Bruno considers AdolfHitler [[AllGermansAreNazis the greatest Austrian ever to live]] and the Roman salutes were found to be in very poor taste.

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* ''Film/{{Bruno}}'' zigzags this. While Austrians found the gay stereotypes of Austria and Austrians ActuallyPrettyFunny, as Austria is a very progressive country towards LGBT, the jokes where Bruno considers AdolfHitler UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler [[AllGermansAreNazis the greatest Austrian ever to live]] and the Roman salutes were found to be in very poor taste.
21st Oct '16 2:55:53 AM IvanovTroping97
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* ''WesternAnimation/PeppaPig'' is regarded as SnarkBait in Russia. The fact it airs on Karusel, a network infamous for its divisive ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' dub, doesn't help.

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* ''WesternAnimation/PeppaPig'' is and its sister show, ''WesternAnimation/BenAndHollysLittleKingdom'' are regarded as SnarkBait in Russia. Russia, especially the former. The fact it airs they air on Karusel, a network infamous for its divisive ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' dub, doesn't help.
17th Oct '16 8:26:55 PM MyFinalEdits
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** On a similar note, ''WesternAnimation/CowAndChicken'' and ''WesternAnimation/BackAtTheBarnyard'' were banned in the country due to their depiction of cows, which are seen as sacred creatures in Indian culture.
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