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23rd Mar '17 6:40:17 PM jainasolo
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* Subverted in ''Literature/EndersGame'' [[spoiler: the buggers are presented as this until the end of the book]

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* Subverted in ''Literature/EndersGame'' [[spoiler: the buggers are presented as this until the end of the book]book]]



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23rd Mar '17 6:39:43 PM jainasolo
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* Subverted in ''Literature/EndersGame'' [[spoiler: the buggers are presented as this until the end of the book]



* Subverted in ''Literature/Ender'sGame'' [[spoiler: the buggers are presented as this until the end of the book]]

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* Subverted in ''Literature/Ender'sGame'' [[spoiler: the buggers are presented as this until the end of the book]]
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23rd Mar '17 6:38:45 PM jainasolo
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* Subverted in ''Literature/Ender'sGame'' [[spoiler: the buggers are presented as this until the end of the book]]
17th Mar '17 11:36:13 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* By the time ''[[Series/SpartacusBloodAndSand Spartacus Vengeance]]'' rolls around, every single Roman is at best a total {{JerkAss}}, and at worst (and more likely) a complete monster. ColdBloodedTorture is a ''pass time'' for them, and their cold hearted execution of prisoners. As well as their manipulations of the idiotic populous. Subverted in ''War of the Damned''. Many Romans are introduced who are simply innocent civilians caught up in a war, Crassus comes off as a NobleDemon, and many of the rebels act like psychotic murders and rapists.

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* By the time ''[[Series/SpartacusBloodAndSand Spartacus Vengeance]]'' rolls around, every single Roman is at best a total {{JerkAss}}, {{Jerkass}}, and at worst (and more likely) a complete monster. ColdBloodedTorture is a ''pass time'' for them, and their cold hearted execution of prisoners. As well as their manipulations of the idiotic populous. Subverted in ''War of the Damned''. Many Romans are introduced who are simply innocent civilians caught up in a war, Crassus comes off as a NobleDemon, and many of the rebels act like psychotic murders and rapists.



* [[PigMan Muzzles]] in ''Series/{{BulletsOfJustice}}'' are a sadistic species without exception, completely obsessed with farming humans for food or killing them in painfull ways. A completely justified case, since they were created by a Gobernment Program during WorldWarIII as SuperSoldiers. To made things worse, when they began to attack civilians,the military [[TooDumbToLive decided to kill the witness instead of doing anything to stop them, making possible the setting 25 years later instead of dealing now with the problem]]

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* [[PigMan Muzzles]] in ''Series/{{BulletsOfJustice}}'' ''Bullets Of Justice'' are a sadistic species without exception, completely obsessed with farming humans for food or killing them in painfull ways. A completely justified case, since they were created by a Gobernment Program during WorldWarIII as SuperSoldiers. To made things worse, when they began to attack civilians,the military [[TooDumbToLive decided to kill the witness instead of doing anything to stop them, making possible the setting 25 years later instead of dealing now with the problem]]problem]].



* The trope name comes from ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', which certainly used the trope, though this particular phrase only came in later on and in fact signaled something of an aversion (see below). The real reason for the use of the trope was so players wouldn't feel bad when killing monsters and taking their treasure (i.e. home invasion). In fact, the whole ''cosmology'' of the ''D&D'' universe used to be based on alignment; Good and Evil (and [[OrderVersusChaos Law and Chaos]]) weren't morally relative terms, they were ''natural forces'' that influenced most creatures -- very few races (including the PlayerCharacter races) could actually ''choose'' their alignments willingly; the rest were doomed to be what they were born as.\\

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* The trope name comes from ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', which certainly used the trope, though this particular phrase only came in later on and in fact signaled something of an aversion (see below).aversion. The real reason for the use of the trope was so players wouldn't feel bad when killing monsters and taking their treasure (i.e. home invasion). In fact, the whole ''cosmology'' of the ''D&D'' universe used to be based on alignment; Good and Evil (and [[OrderVersusChaos Law and Chaos]]) weren't morally relative terms, they were ''natural forces'' that influenced most creatures -- very few races (including the PlayerCharacter races) could actually ''choose'' their alignments willingly; the rest were doomed to be what they were born as.\\



* The Decepticons in ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'' have a racial divide rather then a political one with Autobots. The Deceptions were built as [[ArmiesAreEvil War machines]] by the Quintessons(See below), and thus desire both conquest and violence. This leads them into conflict with the peaceful Autobots who were built for domestic tasks.

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* The Decepticons in ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'' have a racial divide rather then a political one with Autobots. The Deceptions were built as [[ArmiesAreEvil War machines]] by the Quintessons(See below), Quintessons, and thus desire both conquest and violence. This leads them into conflict with the peaceful Autobots who were built for domestic tasks.



* Both invoked and averted on ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}''. All races portrayed onscreen (humans, gargoyles, fae, and New Olympians) are shown to have both good and evil members, but [[BigBad Demona]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters views humanity this way]], and the Quarrymen portray gargoyles like this in their recruiting campaigns. Demona herself is one of very few evil gargoyles, the race as a whole is supposedly AlwaysLawfulGood, having a near biological drive to protect and safeguard the places that they live and those places' inhabitants. It is, however, up to the individual gargoyle clans how they choose to interpret these drives, ranging anywhere from "Stay the hell away from my caves, filthy human scum" to "Here I come to save the daaaaay!"
* The above fable of the Frog and the Scorpion is parodied in ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'', [[http://robotchicken.wikia.com/wiki/In_My_Nature here.]]

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* Both invoked and averted on ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}''. All races portrayed onscreen (humans, gargoyles, fae, and New Olympians) are shown to have both good and evil members, but [[BigBad Demona]] Demona [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters views humanity this way]], and the Quarrymen portray gargoyles like this in their recruiting campaigns. Demona herself is one of very few evil gargoyles, the race as a whole is supposedly AlwaysLawfulGood, having a near biological drive to protect and safeguard the places that they live and those places' inhabitants. It is, however, up to the individual gargoyle clans how they choose to interpret these drives, ranging anywhere from "Stay the hell away from my caves, filthy human scum" to "Here I come to save the daaaaay!"
* The above fable of the Frog and the Scorpion is parodied in ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'', [[http://robotchicken.wikia.com/wiki/In_My_Nature here.]]



** The [[{{Wendigo}} Windigos]], if they are intelligent beings as opposed to animal-level creatures, are this, due to deliberately causing supernatural winters to force societies to destroy themselves with hatred that the Windigos then [[EmotionEater eat]].

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** The [[{{Wendigo}} Windigos]], {{Wendigo}}s, if they are intelligent beings as opposed to animal-level creatures, are this, due to deliberately causing supernatural winters to force societies to destroy themselves with hatred that the Windigos then [[EmotionEater eat]].
17th Mar '17 11:25:58 PM Monsund
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI'' has the player start off thinking that all beastmen are scum, but then has you find out that most of them are fighting the player races for various reasons. The Quadav are only in conflict with Bastok because Bastok kinda tried to take over the Quadav's homelands, and have since been in constant combat with them over land and resources. Then, there are the Goblins, who are less evil and more [[HonestJohnsDealership willing to do anything to make a buck.]]

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXI'' has the player start off thinking that all beastmen are scum, but then has you find out that most of them them, but not all of them, are fighting the player races for various reasons. The Quadav are only in conflict with Bastok because Bastok kinda tried to take over the Quadav's homelands, and have since been in constant combat with them over land and resources. Then, there are the Goblins, who are less evil and more [[HonestJohnsDealership willing to do anything to make a buck.]]



* In ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'', most of the resident Noxian Champions are not what you would call a nice group of people: being [[BloodKnight bloodthirsty assassins]], [[OurVampiresAreDifferent hemomancers]], and the occasional cultists (one of whom, Swain, leads the entire city state.) However, [[GreyAndGrayMorality their rival, Demacia, is almost just as bad]], being a tyrannical city state that punishes all crimes with death.

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* In ''VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends'', most of the resident Noxian Champions residents of Noxus are not what you would call a nice group of people: being [[BloodKnight bloodthirsty assassins]], [[OurVampiresAreDifferent hemomancers]], and the occasional cultists (one of whom, Swain, leads the entire city state.) However, [[GreyAndGrayMorality their rival, Demacia, is almost just as bad]], being a tyrannical city state that punishes all crimes with death.



* The Decepticons in most versions of the ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}''. The Autobot/Deception split is usually depicted as a political or spiritual division rather than a racial one. It is implied that ChaoticEvil cybertronians mostly join the Decepticons, which account for their generally villainous depiction.
** There are also the [[Franchise/TransformersGeneration1 various]] [[Franchise/TransformersFilmSeries incarnations]] of Jetfire.

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* The Decepticons in most versions of the ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}''. The Autobot/Deception split is usually depicted as ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'' have a racial divide rather then a political or spiritual division rather than a racial one. It is implied that ChaoticEvil cybertronians mostly join one with Autobots. The Deceptions were built as [[ArmiesAreEvil War machines]] by the Decepticons, which account Quintessons(See below), and thus desire both conquest and violence. This leads them into conflict with the peaceful Autobots who were built for their generally villainous depiction.
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** There are also the [[Franchise/TransformersGeneration1 various]] [[Franchise/TransformersFilmSeries incarnations]] of Jetfire.
17th Mar '17 11:16:04 PM Divra
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*** It's also worth noting in general that the Always Chaotic Evil races in ''Warhammer Fantasy'' (except the Orcs and the Beastmen) are ''just'' baby-eating demon-worshippers. Of course, they ''do'' eat babies and worship demons, but there is a lot more to them.

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*** It's also worth noting in general that the Always Chaotic Evil races in ''Warhammer Fantasy'' (except the Orcs and the Beastmen) are aren't ''just'' baby-eating demon-worshippers. Of course, they Their respective background fluff shows remarkably rich and deep cultures, even in the places you would least expected. Said cultures ''do'' eat put a significant emphasis on eating babies and worship worshipping demons, but there is a lot more to them.hey, you can't have everything.
12th Mar '17 2:38:18 PM nombretomado
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* Subverted in ''TabletopGame/{{Mortasheen}}'', where no creatures are inherently evil (well, except for the Dolfury), and they're all as loyal to their trainers as any Pokemon would be. Yes, that includes the [[OurDemonsAreDifferent scary mind-raping Devilbirds]] and the [[EldritchAbomination horrible, maddening Unknowns]].

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* Subverted in ''TabletopGame/{{Mortasheen}}'', ''WebOriginal/{{Mortasheen}}'', where no creatures are inherently evil (well, except for the Dolfury), and they're all as loyal to their trainers as any Pokemon would be. Yes, that includes the [[OurDemonsAreDifferent scary mind-raping Devilbirds]] and the [[EldritchAbomination horrible, maddening Unknowns]].
9th Mar '17 2:17:58 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* Creator/RoaldDahl did it twice: once with the [[OurGiantsAreBigger giants]] in ''Literature/TheBFG'' (except the titular [[TokenHeroicOrc Big Friendly Giant]]), and again with the WitchSpecies in ''Literature/TheWitches''.
8th Mar '17 9:45:20 AM 12345671
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* [[PigMan Muzzles]] in ''Series/{{BulletsOfJustice}}'' are a sadistic species without exception, completely obsessed with farming humans for food or killing them in painfull ways. A completely justified case, since they were created by a Gobernment Program during WorldWarIII as SuperSoldiers. To made things worse, when they began to attack civilians,the military [[TooDumbToLive decided to kill the witness instead of doing anything to stop them, making possible the setting 25 years later instead of dealing now with the problem]]
5th Mar '17 12:31:27 AM CountDorku
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* Dragons in ''TabletopGame/IronKingdoms'' are pretty much without exception massive assholes. The dragon-led factions in the wargame are pretty much without exception the ''most'' evil - the Trollbloods, Convergence of Cyriss and Cygnar are respectable, Khador and Skorne imperialistic but still sane, the Retribution of Scyrah, Menoth and Circle Orboros {{Knight Templar}}s, but Cryx is a nightmarish pit of undead under a dragon-god who wants to turn the world into his weapons against his offspring and the Legion of Everblight are twisted, mutated elves in service of one such offspring who would prefer not to be reabsorbed by the dragon-god thank you.
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