History Main / AlternateHistoryNaziVictory

* On Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom, the "Nazi Victory" is generally seen as {{cliche}}, not only because it's primarily popular for newbies to the forum, but because it's very prone to AlternateHistoryWank and ArtisticLicenseHistory for the sake of RuleOfCool. In particular, positing "Operation Sea Lion", the planned Nazi German invasion of the United Kingdom in 1940, as a PointOfDivergence has become a meme on the forum for being one of the most ill-conceived invasion plans in recorded history and highly unlikely to result in a Nazi victory. Still, there are a few timelines that have gained some acclaim for being well-written/researched:

* ''Series/{{Arrowverse}}'':

** In the ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode [[Recap/StarTrekS1E28TheCityOnTheEdgeOfForever "The City on the Edge of Forever"]], a delusional Bones is sent back in time and saves the life of Edith Keeler, who then goes on to convince President Roosevelt to stay out of the war. This is a downplayed example since the consequences are never shown beyond the ''Enterprise'' being erased from existence. Nazi Germany's victory meant that mankind continued to be involved in petty internecine squabbles and never became a space-faring civilization.
** A two-part episode, [[Recap/StarTrekEnterpriseS04E01E02StormFront "Storm Front"]], of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' is set in an altered timeline where time-traveling aliens had armed the [[ThoseWackyNazis Nazis]] with an arsenal of devastating energy weapons, leading to the rapid conquest of Europe, Asia and the eastern seaboard of the U.S. It features a highly entertaining alternate-universe propaganda clip describing the bright, shining future in store for America now that it's Germany's "partner". The point of divergence was the assassination of Lenin before he could turn Russia communist, though by the time of World War 2 itself, the aliens have become open allies of the Nazis.
*** That said, the episode also implied that the tide was turning against the Nazis, with German troops stretched thin, the Russians preparing to retake Moscow, and near the end of Part 2, US troops launching an offensive into Pennsylvania. [[spoiler:The ''Enterprise'' bombing a key R&D facility and wiping out the Nazis' alien allies probably didn't help, either.]]

* "WebOriginal/It's a Lovely Day Tommorow": stands out as being a total (or rather, "total") Axis victory caused by time travel that focuses on, instead of the Reich, the numerous subjugated peoples of it's empire.

* "WebOriginal/It's a Lovely Day Tommorow" stands out as being a total (or rather, "total") Axis victory caused by time travel that focuses on, instead of the Reich, the numerous subjugated peoples of it's empire.

* {{https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/its-a-lovely-day-tomorrow.1120261/#post-95856199 It's a Lovely Day Tommorow}} Stands out as being a total (or rather, "total") Axis victory caused by time travel that focuses on, instead of the Reich, the numerous subjugated peoples of it's empire.
-->While German Nazis and Japanese Imperialists are a major part of this setting, and we'll talk about them a fair amount, ultimately this is not their story. This is the story of their victims, their collaborators, their enemies, and their allies- and how sometimes those categories can blur together.

It is also the story of their fall.

SubTrope of AlternateHistory, TheBadGuyWins, and VillainWorld. Compare and contrast CommieLand and PrivatelyOwnedSociety, the politicial and ideological opposite. See also GodwinsLawOfTimeTravel and DayOfTheJackboot.

## The [[ForWantOfANail rationale]] they give for a German victory in D-Day is... the deployment of the Me-262 jet fighter. ''[[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer That's literally it]]''. One of the key aspects of Operation Overlord was ''aerial supremacy''; the Allies controlled the skies over the Channel. The Me-262 had some advantages over propeller based fighters, but the jet engines didn't make it a superplane (its performance not being critically better than any other plane constructed at the time) — by the end of the war, Allied forces had racked up several 262 kills with technically-inferior prop planes. Additionally, by 1944 Germany was having several problems with manufacture of jet engines — namely, they no longer had the resources to make them properly. The engines they could manufacture didn't last, having to be rebuilt after operation, and with a short operational life.

* ''Webcomic/{{Housekeeper}}'' takes place in an alternate 1970's where the Hitler won the war by winning the atomic race... [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome and got his ass executed four years later for continuing to be a genocidal narcissist]]. Still, the fascists effectively won WWII, and continued to deceive the public by rebranding as the Unified World Council. End result? The Nazis managed to trick Einstein into working for them. Technology skyrockets to 22nd-century levels, but the old guard of bigoted, genocidal maniacs is still in charge. When their head scientist proposes a worldwide genocide that would make Hitler blush, all but one among the high council ''applaud''.

** ''VideoGame/ThousandWeekReich'' is based on a [[WebOriginal/ThousandWeekReich timeline told in maps]], and is based on the premise of Operation Dynamo failing, leading to Britain signing an armistice with Germany in 1941. Germany goes on to dominate mainland Europe, while Japan is defeated by the Allies by 1945. By 1952, the world sees a cold war between the German-led 'Neuordnung' and the US-UK-Canadian-established Toronto Accord, but the Reich is tottering, and would need ''very'' talented leadership to avoid collapsing.

* Franchise/DCComics:

* Franchise/MarvelComics has its fair share of Nazi victory alternate earths.

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[[caption-width-right:350:[[FromBadToWorse And entering the part]] they gave to UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan.]]

* ''Literature/{{Fatherland}}'' is set in an alternate 1964 where the Nazis now control Europe, and the truth about the Holocaust drives the plot. It's also something of a DeconstructedTrope; rather than the Nazis building a world-spanning empire, the Nazi state covers Europe only and has more in common with the later stages of the Soviet Union, slowly decaying under [[DystopiaIsHard the weight of its own tyranny]] and [[FascistButInefficient inefficiency]] while engaged in a Cold War with the United States. The territories in the east are improductive, war-ravaged and full of partisans; the only people who live there are dissidents sent there by the government to turn it productive or die trying. The irony of "lebensraum that no-one wants to live in" is not lost on the protagonist. Also, the government is obsessed with oversized vanity projects, instead of the maintenance and infrastructure improvements the country needs, and even the protagonist (who is the equivalent of a police Captain) lives in a run-down pre-War apartment. The German puppet states in Western Europe are only nominally subservient to the Reich, and seem to be moving closer to co-operation with the US, and Germany's increasingly insane racial purity policies have led to massive brain-drain. All in all, the Thousand-Year Reich is teetering on the brink of collapse a mere 25 years after its founding.

* The {{Nazisploitation}} novel ''The Ultimate Solution'' by Eric Norden takes place in a Nazified USA that is quite similar to that of ''The Man in the High Castle'', except much, much, ''[[CrossesTheLineTwice much]]'' worse, to the point of severe ArtisticLicenseHistory. Including excruciatingly cruel animal abuse, pedophilia, slave gladiator matches and bizarrely enough homosexuality as state ideals.

## The rationale they give for a German victory in D-Day is... the deployment of the Me-262 jet fighter. ''[[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer That's literally it]]''. One of the key aspects of Operation Overlord was ''aerial supremacy''; the Allies controlled the skies over the Channel. The Me-262 had some advantages over propeller based fighters, but the jet engines didn't make it a superplane (its performance not being critically better than any other plane constructed at the time) — by the end of the war, Allied forces had racked up several 262 kills with technically-inferior prop planes. Additionally, by 1944 Germany was having several problems with manufacture of jet engines — namely, they no longer had the resources to make them properly. The engines they could manufacture didn't last, having to be rebuilt after operation, and with a short operational life.