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22nd May '16 7:02:39 PM movie007
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* Happens a lot in ''ComicBook/ChickTracts''. A particularly nasty example is ''[[https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1068/1068_01.asp Mean Mama]]'', where the title character and her delinquent sons commit various crimes. Then God kills all the children with a tornado so that the mother will repent. And the mother thanks God for his kindness in saving her, ignoring that the children whom she raised to be criminals are now burning in hell.

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* Happens a lot in ''ComicBook/ChickTracts''. A particularly nasty example is ''[[https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1068/1068_01.asp Mean Mama]]'', Momma]]'', where the title character and her delinquent sons commit various crimes. Then God kills all the children with a tornado so that the mother will repent. And the mother thanks God for his kindness in saving her, ignoring that the children whom she raised to be criminals are now burning in hell.
22nd May '16 6:32:36 PM movie007
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* Happens a lot in ''ComicBook/ChickTracts''. A particularly nasty example is ''Bad Mama'', where the title character and her delinquent sons commit various crimes. Then God kills all the children with a tornado so that the mother will repent. And the mother thanks God for his kindness in saving her, ignoring that the children whom she raised to be criminals are now burning in hell.

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* Happens a lot in ''ComicBook/ChickTracts''. A particularly nasty example is ''Bad Mama'', ''[[https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1068/1068_01.asp Mean Mama]]'', where the title character and her delinquent sons commit various crimes. Then God kills all the children with a tornado so that the mother will repent. And the mother thanks God for his kindness in saving her, ignoring that the children whom she raised to be criminals are now burning in hell.
19th May '16 6:06:34 PM nombretomado
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* Happens on ''MyNameIsEarl''. Earl develops a gambling addiction. He takes [[TheIllegal Catalina]] to a seedy underground "casino," and lends her his car because she's late for work. She ends up speeding to make up for lost time, gets pulled over, and the cops discover that her driver's license is a fake. She ends up getting deported back to her homeland (at this point, assumed to be Mexico, later called "Guadelatucky.") Earl has to go down there and bring her back to Camden.

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* Happens on ''MyNameIsEarl''.''Series/MyNameIsEarl''. Earl develops a gambling addiction. He takes [[TheIllegal Catalina]] to a seedy underground "casino," and lends her his car because she's late for work. She ends up speeding to make up for lost time, gets pulled over, and the cops discover that her driver's license is a fake. She ends up getting deported back to her homeland (at this point, assumed to be Mexico, later called "Guadelatucky.") Earl has to go down there and bring her back to Camden.
2nd May '16 5:49:07 AM gregnes2000
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* In the cheesy sci-fi movie ''Film/{{ROTOR}},'' the protagonist Barrett Coldyron eventually learns a valuable philosophical lesson, albeit at the cost of his robot killing or maiming several people.
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* In the cheesy sci-fi movie ''Film/{{ROTOR}},'' the protagonist Barrett Coldyron eventually learns a valuable philosophical lesson, albeit at the cost of his robot killing or maiming several people.
29th Apr '16 5:37:08 PM Miracle@StOlaf
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** There is King David [[UriahGambit getting one of his generals killed in battle to get into the pants of the aforementioned general's wife.]] God inflicts an illness on the child coming out of this affair. David repents and God forgives. Him the king that is. To really teach David that justice has to be done, the child however still has to die from the illness. David, his new (stolen) wife and their future kids all live HappilyEverAfter.

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** There is King David [[UriahGambit getting one of his generals killed in battle to get into the pants of the aforementioned general's wife.]] God inflicts an illness on the child coming out of this affair. David repents and God forgives. Him the king that is. To really teach David that justice has to be done, the child however still has to die from the illness. David, his new (stolen) wife and their future kids all live HappilyEverAfter.HappilyEverAfter... [[spoiler:Until one of his own sons goes to war against him]].



** On the other hand, the story of Job is ''not'' an example, though it might seem so -- it goes one step further, and beyond the trope, in that even the person who is "punished" by having his loved ones die is innocent. Job loses everything, including his family, but though his friends insist he must have done something to deserve it, he's in fact innocent and God is just (sort of) testing him. Still, the logic is much the same in terms of collateral damage -- he even gets a new wife and new children in the end.
*** This is considered a happy ending, but not for Job's first kids, they're still dead.

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** On the other hand, the story of Job is ''not'' an example, though it might seem so -- it goes one step further, and beyond the trope, in that even the person who is "punished" by having his loved ones die is innocent. Job loses everything, including his family, but though his friends insist he must have done something to deserve it, he's in fact innocent and God is just (sort of) testing him. Still, the logic is much the same in terms of collateral damage -- he even gets a new wife and new children in the end.
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end. This is considered a happy ending, but not for Job's first kids, they're kids. They're still dead.
26th Mar '16 1:44:53 AM Sharlee
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* Gamer arguments about the moral/ethical status of the [[PowersThatBe Dark Powers]] of {{Ravenloft}} often hinge upon this trope, with fans who believe them to be malicious and/or terribly corrupt citing the large number of innocent ''non''-monsters who are trapped there, at the mercy of the Land's many monsters and alongside the darklords (who ''do'' deserve their fate). Those fans who consider the Dark Powers' actions to be justified have been known to argue that ''everyone'' there must've done something to merit their captivity, or even that the native peoples are merely constructs that ''look and act'' like actual people, but aren't "real".
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23rd Mar '16 11:24:38 AM Knight20
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23rd Mar '16 8:27:23 AM ObsidianFire
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** Again from the Greeks is Laocoön, who interfered with the original TrojanHorse because he was GenreSavvy enough not to trust it. For jeopardising their plan, the gods sent a serpent to kill him and, inexplicably, his two sons.

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** Again from the Greeks is Laocoön, who interfered with the original TrojanHorse because he was GenreSavvy smart enough not to trust it. For jeopardising their plan, the gods sent a serpent to kill him and, inexplicably, his two sons.
1st Mar '16 2:28:49 AM Dravencour
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** There is king David [[UriahGambit getting one of his generals killed in battle to get into the pants of the aforementioned's wife.]] God inflicts an illness on the child coming out of this affair. David repents and God forgives. Him the king that is. To really teach David that justice has to be done, the child however still has to die from the illness. David, his new (stolen) wife and their future kids all life HappilyEverAfter.

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** There is king King David [[UriahGambit getting one of his generals killed in battle to get into the pants of the aforementioned's aforementioned general's wife.]] God inflicts an illness on the child coming out of this affair. David repents and God forgives. Him the king that is. To really teach David that justice has to be done, the child however still has to die from the illness. David, his new (stolen) wife and their future kids all life HappilyEverAfter. live HappilyEverAfter.



8th Feb '16 10:18:25 AM KingZeal
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** Then again, since original sin does nothing to influence free will, humanity hasn't exactly proven to be blameless innocent victims since then.


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** Then again, since original sin does nothing to influence free will, humanity hasn't exactly proven to be blameless innocent victims since then.


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