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** The show portrays the Sand Snakes as DumbMuscle whose main pursuits are bickering and trying to kill people, and even when they try to get involved in diplomacy they're just insulted and told to "let the grown women speak." In the books, they're still stubborn and hotheaded but only Obara could even be ''accused'' of not also being cunning and politically aware, and Prince Doran Martell even tasks Nymeria and Tyene with infiltrating the Small Council and the Faith Militant for him. Tyene Sand, although still a MasterPoisoner in the show, displays none of the cunning she does in the books, where she suggests invoking Dorne's gender-neutral inheritance laws to crown Myrcella Baratheon (who is engaged to Doran's son Trystane) as a rival to Myrcella's brother Tommen, the Lannister-supported PuppetKing of the Seven Kingdoms, in an attempt to lure the Lannisters into an unwise attack on their ThirstyDesert kingdom. Instead she comes across as merely a petulant PsychopathicWomanchild who still calls her mother, "Mama."
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** The show portrays the Sand Snakes as DumbMuscle whose main pursuits are bickering and trying to kill people, and even when they try to get involved in diplomacy they're just insulted and told to "let the grown women speak." In the books, they're still stubborn and hotheaded but only Obara could even be ''accused'' of not also being cunning and politically aware, and Prince Doran Martell even tasks Nymeria and Tyene with infiltrating the Small Council and the Faith Militant for him. Tyene Sand, although still a MasterPoisoner in the show, displays none of the cunning she does in the books, where she suggests invoking Dorne's gender-neutral inheritance laws to crown Myrcella Baratheon (who is engaged to Doran's son Trystane) as a rival to Myrcella's brother Tommen, the Lannister-supported PuppetKing of the Seven Kingdoms, in an attempt to lure the Lannisters into an unwise attack on their ThirstyDesert kingdom.kingdom, which has never been taken by force. Instead she comes across as merely a petulant PsychopathicWomanchild who still calls her mother, "Mama."
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** In the books, Sansa can spout historical and literary trivia and identify Renly and Barristan purely by SherlockScan, but in the show, she literally thinks "shift" is a vulgar word for dung. She also remains oblivious to subtle character clues like Loras's chivalrous disinterest and Littlefinger's [[StepfordSmiler Stepford Smile]] instead of sensing them after a single conversation, and she trusts her mysterious new maid "even though she tells me not to" rather than assuming she's a spy (which is true of her maids in the novels).
** Arya is a lot more [[AttackAttackAttack heedless]] and prone to RevengeBeforeReason than in the books where she prefers to avoid confrontations and only fight when she has no other choice. For instance, in "Mhysa", she attacks a man-at-arms for [[spoiler:bragging about desecrating her brother's body]] without any heed to his comrades which simply doesn't happen in the books, and in "Two Swords" she's intent on confronting several soldiers at an inn despite the Hound's protests, while in the books it's the Hound who rushes into the inn despite ''Arya's'' protests and she only loses control on the last man standing at the end of the fight.
** Robb is made more brash and impulsive due to the show's changes to his marriage. In the books, he marries Jeyne Westerling to save her from being DefiledForever by their one-night stand fully knowing it's a terrible move but choosing [[HonorBeforeReason Jeyne's honour]] anyway. The televised version sees him marry Talisa because he can't control his [[RagingStiffie raging]]... [[LastSecondWordSwap love]] [[MarryForLove for her]] and refuses to hear what a stupid move it is. He also brings his entire court to [[spoiler:the Twins for the Red Wedding]] in the show, resulting in [[spoiler:all of them being either killed or captured]]. Granted, he doesn't foresee [[spoiler:the betrayal]] in the novels either, but he does recognize the foolishness of keeping all his eggs in one basket and therefore leaves his wife at Riverrun with the Blackfish rather than bringing her with him.
** Stannis needs to be told of the Lannister incest by Ned and the Dance of the Dragons by Shireen in the show. In the books, he's the first to raise suspicions of incest and co-investigates with Jon Arryn, and he knows enough history to specifically include a faction leader of the Dance in a list of historical traitors. He's also initially very cynical of Melisandre and her religion in the books but dives right into fundamentalism in the show, and his military tactics always seem to boil down to [[AttackAttackAttack direct assaults]].
** Mace Tyrell isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer in the books either but he's far from the clueless oaf depicted in the show. For instance, his feasting at Storm's End is implied to have been a psychological weapon against Stannis's starving garrison and he personally commands the right wing of the army in the Battle of Blackwater, which are things that are very hard to imagine him doing in the show.
** Roose Bolton, for all his political and psychological savvy, can't seem to see what a viper Ramsay is and openly rebels against the Lannisters [[MissingStepsPlan before he's ready]] by marrying Ramsay to Sansa (which is [[InformedAttribute never actually shown]] to win him any support), leaving Littlefinger free to descend on them with an army. Contrast this with the books, where Roose keeps Ramsay on a short leash by controlling his goons and ''strengthens'' his ties to the Lannisters by acquiring an imposter Stark bride from them, which brings half the North at least begrudgingly to his side and provides him thousands of reinforcements from the south. In addition, the book version of Roose ''doesn't'' constantly antagonize his psychologically unstable son by threatening to take away his inheritance. In fact, he's creepily at peace with the fact that Ramsay will eventually kill his other heirs since he himself is too old to raise new sons to manhood and "boy lords are the bane of any House."
** The show portrays the Sand Snakes as DumbMuscle whose main pursuits are bickering and trying to kill people, and even when they try to get involved in diplomacy they're just insulted and told to "let the grown women speak." In the books, they're still stubborn and hotheaded but only Obara could even be ''accused'' of not also being cunning and politically aware and Doran even tasks Nymeria and Tyene with infiltrating the Small Council and the Faith Militant for him. Tyene Sand, although still a MasterPoisoner, in the show displays none of the cunning she does in the books when she suggests invoking Dorne's gender-neutral inheritance laws to crown Myrcella as a rival to Tommen in an attempt to lure the Lannisters into an unwise attack on their ThirstyDesert kingdom. Instead she comes across as merely a petulant PsychopathicWomanchild who still calls her mother, "Mama."
** Hand in hand with other deviations, Jon makes more mistakes or just doesn't get to be as clever as in the novels, particularly in his leadership which--unlike TheStrategist of the novels--mostly amounts to being a FrontlineGeneral in numerous battles and skirmishes, many of which are [[FailureHero likely or even unequivocal defeats]] until TheCavalry bails him out. He also often neglects or delegates important administration whereas in the books he's something of a BadassBureaucrat PenPushingPresident who competently institutes major logistical reforms and frequently negotiates treaties, alliances, and loans. Some fans chalk this divergence all up to not spending enough time being mentored by Qhorin Halfhand in Season 2.
** Arya is a lot more [[AttackAttackAttack heedless]] and prone to RevengeBeforeReason than in the books where she prefers to avoid confrontations and only fight when she has no other choice. For instance, in "Mhysa", she attacks a man-at-arms for [[spoiler:bragging about desecrating her brother's body]] without any heed to his comrades which simply doesn't happen in the books, and in "Two Swords" she's intent on confronting several soldiers at an inn despite the Hound's protests, while in the books it's the Hound who rushes into the inn despite ''Arya's'' protests and she only loses control on the last man standing at the end of the fight.
** Robb is made more brash and impulsive due to the show's changes to his marriage. In the books, he marries Jeyne Westerling to save her from being DefiledForever by their one-night stand fully knowing it's a terrible move but choosing [[HonorBeforeReason Jeyne's honour]] anyway. The televised version sees him marry Talisa because he can't control his [[RagingStiffie raging]]... [[LastSecondWordSwap love]] [[MarryForLove for her]] and refuses to hear what a stupid move it is. He also brings his entire court to [[spoiler:the Twins for the Red Wedding]] in the show, resulting in [[spoiler:all of them being either killed or captured]]. Granted, he doesn't foresee [[spoiler:the betrayal]] in the novels either, but he does recognize the foolishness of keeping all his eggs in one basket and therefore leaves his wife at Riverrun with the Blackfish rather than bringing her with him.
** Stannis needs to be told of the Lannister incest by Ned and the Dance of the Dragons by Shireen in the show. In the books, he's the first to raise suspicions of incest and co-investigates with Jon Arryn, and he knows enough history to specifically include a faction leader of the Dance in a list of historical traitors. He's also initially very cynical of Melisandre and her religion in the books but dives right into fundamentalism in the show, and his military tactics always seem to boil down to [[AttackAttackAttack direct assaults]].
** Mace Tyrell isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer in the books either but he's far from the clueless oaf depicted in the show. For instance, his feasting at Storm's End is implied to have been a psychological weapon against Stannis's starving garrison and he personally commands the right wing of the army in the Battle of Blackwater, which are things that are very hard to imagine him doing in the show.
** Roose Bolton, for all his political and psychological savvy, can't seem to see what a viper Ramsay is and openly rebels against the Lannisters [[MissingStepsPlan before he's ready]] by marrying Ramsay to Sansa (which is [[InformedAttribute never actually shown]] to win him any support), leaving Littlefinger free to descend on them with an army. Contrast this with the books, where Roose keeps Ramsay on a short leash by controlling his goons and ''strengthens'' his ties to the Lannisters by acquiring an imposter Stark bride from them, which brings half the North at least begrudgingly to his side and provides him thousands of reinforcements from the south. In addition, the book version of Roose ''doesn't'' constantly antagonize his psychologically unstable son by threatening to take away his inheritance. In fact, he's creepily at peace with the fact that Ramsay will eventually kill his other heirs since he himself is too old to raise new sons to manhood and "boy lords are the bane of any House."
** The show portrays the Sand Snakes as DumbMuscle whose main pursuits are bickering and trying to kill people, and even when they try to get involved in diplomacy they're just insulted and told to "let the grown women speak." In the books, they're still stubborn and hotheaded but only Obara could even be ''accused'' of not also being cunning and politically aware and Doran even tasks Nymeria and Tyene with infiltrating the Small Council and the Faith Militant for him. Tyene Sand, although still a MasterPoisoner, in the show displays none of the cunning she does in the books when she suggests invoking Dorne's gender-neutral inheritance laws to crown Myrcella as a rival to Tommen in an attempt to lure the Lannisters into an unwise attack on their ThirstyDesert kingdom. Instead she comes across as merely a petulant PsychopathicWomanchild who still calls her mother, "Mama."
** Hand in hand with other deviations, Jon makes more mistakes or just doesn't get to be as clever as in the novels, particularly in his leadership which--unlike TheStrategist of the novels--mostly amounts to being a FrontlineGeneral in numerous battles and skirmishes, many of which are [[FailureHero likely or even unequivocal defeats]] until TheCavalry bails him out. He also often neglects or delegates important administration whereas in the books he's something of a BadassBureaucrat PenPushingPresident who competently institutes major logistical reforms and frequently negotiates treaties, alliances, and loans. Some fans chalk this divergence all up to not spending enough time being mentored by Qhorin Halfhand in Season 2.
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** In the books, Sansa Stark can spout historical and literary trivia and identify Renly Baratheon and Barristan Selmy purely by SherlockScan, but in the show, she literally thinks "shift" is a vulgar word for dung. She also remains oblivious to subtle character clues like Loras's Loras Tyrell's chivalrous disinterest and Littlefinger's [[StepfordSmiler Stepford Smile]] instead of sensing them after a single conversation, and she trusts her mysterious new maid Shae "even though she tells me not to" rather than assuming she's a spy (which is true of her maids in the novels).
** Arya Stark is a lot more [[AttackAttackAttack heedless]] and prone to RevengeBeforeReason than in thebooks books, where she prefers to avoid confrontations and only fight when she has no other choice. For instance, in "Mhysa", she attacks a man-at-arms for [[spoiler:bragging about desecrating her brother's brother Robb's body]] without any heed to his comrades comrades, which simply doesn't happen in the books, and in "Two Swords" she's intent on confronting several soldiers at an inn despite the Hound's protests, while in the books it's the Hound who rushes into the inn despite ''Arya's'' protests and she only loses control on the last man standing at the end of the fight.
** Robb Stark is made more brash and impulsive due to the show's changes to his marriage. In the books, he marries Jeyne Westerling to save her from being DefiledForever by their one-nightstand stand, fully knowing it's a terrible move but choosing [[HonorBeforeReason Jeyne's honour]] anyway. The televised version sees him marry Talisa Maegyr, who faces no such dilemma, because he can't control his [[RagingStiffie raging]]... [[LastSecondWordSwap love]] [[MarryForLove for her]] and refuses to hear what a stupid move it is. He also brings his entire court to [[spoiler:the Twins for the Red Wedding]] in the show, resulting in [[spoiler:all of them being either killed or captured]]. Granted, he doesn't foresee [[spoiler:the Freys' betrayal]] in the novels either, but he does recognize the foolishness of keeping all his eggs in one basket and therefore leaves his wife at Riverrun with the Blackfish rather than bringing her with him.
** Stannis Baratheon needs to be told of the Lannister incest by Ned Stark and schooled on the Dance of the Dragons by his own daughter Shireen in the show. In the books, he's the first to raise suspicions of incest and co-investigates with Jon Arryn, and he knows enough history to specifically include a faction leader of the Dance in a list of historical traitors. He's also initially very cynical of Melisandre and her religion in the books but dives right into fundamentalism in the show, and his military tactics always seem to boil down to [[AttackAttackAttack direct assaults]].
** Mace Tyrell isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer in the books either but he's far from the clueless oaf depicted in the show. For instance, his feasting at Storm's End is implied to have been a psychological weapon against Stannis's starving garrison and he personally commands the right wing of the army in the Battle of the Blackwater, which are things that are very hard to imagine him doing in the show.
** Roose Bolton, for all his political and psychological savvy, can't seem to see what a viper his son Ramsay is and openly rebels against the Lannisters [[MissingStepsPlan before he's ready]] by marrying Ramsay to Sansa (which is [[InformedAttribute never actually shown]] to win him anysupport), support among other Northerners), leaving Littlefinger free to descend on them with an army. Contrast this with the books, where Roose keeps Ramsay on a short leash by controlling his goons and ''strengthens'' his ties to the Lannisters by acquiring an imposter Stark bride from them, which brings half the North at least begrudgingly to his side and provides him thousands of reinforcements from the south. In addition, the book version of Roose ''doesn't'' constantly antagonize his psychologically unstable son by threatening to take away his inheritance. In fact, he's creepily at peace with the fact that Ramsay will eventually kill his other any heirs Roose and his new wife Fat Walda Frey produce since he Roose himself is too old to raise new sons to manhood and "boy lords are the bane of any House."
** The show portrays the Sand Snakes as DumbMuscle whose main pursuits are bickering and trying to kill people, and even when they try to get involved in diplomacy they're just insulted and told to "let the grown women speak." In the books, they're still stubborn and hotheaded but only Obara could even be ''accused'' of not also being cunning and politicallyaware aware, and Prince Doran Martell even tasks Nymeria and Tyene with infiltrating the Small Council and the Faith Militant for him. Tyene Sand, although still a MasterPoisoner, MasterPoisoner in the show show, displays none of the cunning she does in the books when books, where she suggests invoking Dorne's gender-neutral inheritance laws to crown Myrcella Baratheon (who is engaged to Doran's son Trystane) as a rival to Tommen Myrcella's brother Tommen, the Lannister-supported PuppetKing of the Seven Kingdoms, in an attempt to lure the Lannisters into an unwise attack on their ThirstyDesert kingdom. Instead she comes across as merely a petulant PsychopathicWomanchild who still calls her mother, "Mama."
** Hand in hand with other deviations, Jon Snow makes more mistakes or just doesn't get to be as clever as in the novels, particularly in his leadership which--unlike TheStrategist of the novels--mostly amounts to being a FrontlineGeneral in numerous battles and skirmishes, many of which are [[FailureHero likely or even unequivocal defeats]] until TheCavalry bails him out. He also often neglects or delegates importantadministration administration, whereas in the books he's something of a BadassBureaucrat PenPushingPresident who competently institutes major logistical reforms reforms, has greenhouses built, and frequently negotiates treaties, alliances, and loans. Some fans chalk this divergence all up to not spending enough time being mentored by Qhorin Halfhand in Season 2.2, however Book Jon possessed a useful working knowledge of Westerosi history and culture from the start due to his noble education at Winterfell and was noted as a good reader of people and situations, traits not really demonstrated in the show.
** Arya Stark is a lot more [[AttackAttackAttack heedless]] and prone to RevengeBeforeReason than in the
** Robb Stark is made more brash and impulsive due to the show's changes to his marriage. In the books, he marries Jeyne Westerling to save her from being DefiledForever by their one-night
** Stannis Baratheon needs to be told of the Lannister incest by Ned Stark and schooled on the Dance of the Dragons by his own daughter Shireen in the show. In the books, he's the first to raise suspicions of incest and co-investigates with Jon Arryn, and he knows enough history to specifically include a faction leader of the Dance in a list of historical traitors. He's also initially very cynical of Melisandre and her religion in the books but dives right into fundamentalism in the show, and his military tactics always seem to boil down to [[AttackAttackAttack direct assaults]].
** Mace Tyrell isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer in the books either but he's far from the clueless oaf depicted in the show. For instance, his feasting at Storm's End is implied to have been a psychological weapon against Stannis's starving garrison and he personally commands the right wing of the army in the Battle of the Blackwater, which are things that are very hard to imagine him doing in the show.
** Roose Bolton, for all his political and psychological savvy, can't seem to see what a viper his son Ramsay is and openly rebels against the Lannisters [[MissingStepsPlan before he's ready]] by marrying Ramsay to Sansa (which is [[InformedAttribute never actually shown]] to win him any
** The show portrays the Sand Snakes as DumbMuscle whose main pursuits are bickering and trying to kill people, and even when they try to get involved in diplomacy they're just insulted and told to "let the grown women speak." In the books, they're still stubborn and hotheaded but only Obara could even be ''accused'' of not also being cunning and politically
** Hand in hand with other deviations, Jon Snow makes more mistakes or just doesn't get to be as clever as in the novels, particularly in his leadership which--unlike TheStrategist of the novels--mostly amounts to being a FrontlineGeneral in numerous battles and skirmishes, many of which are [[FailureHero likely or even unequivocal defeats]] until TheCavalry bails him out. He also often neglects or delegates important
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** ''WesternAnimation/SonicPrime'': In contrast to his video game counterpart, this series' incarnation of Sonic makes numerous mistakes with disastrous consequences (the entire premise gets started because he accidentally destroyed the Prism Shard despite his friends' warnings) and is much less smart, often requiring others such as Shadow to ring him in. Not helping matters is that the producers of ''Prime'' have stated that the series is canon to the games; the latest one to have come out during the show's production, ''VideoGame/SonicFrontiers'', had Sonic at arguably his most empathetic and most competent.
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** ''Film/IronMan2'' sees Justin Hammer get hit with this royally. In the film, he thinks he's a grand manipulator, but in reality, he's a KnowItAllKnowNothing and BigBadWannabe who's the patsy of Ivan Vanko -- a far cry from the comics, where he very much ''is'' TheChessmaster and a DiabolicalMastermind in his own right, having been the BigBad of both "Demon in a Bottle" (manipulating events to include framing Iron Man for murder and exploiting Tony's now-well known alcoholism) and the original "ComicBook/ArmorWars''.
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** ''Film/IronMan2'' sees Justin Hammer get hit with this royally. In the film, he thinks he's a grand manipulator, but in reality, he's a KnowItAllKnowNothing KnowNothingKnowItAll and BigBadWannabe who's the patsy of Ivan Vanko -- a far cry from the comics, where he very much ''is'' TheChessmaster and a DiabolicalMastermind in his own right, having been the BigBad of both "Demon in a Bottle" (manipulating events to include framing Iron Man for murder and exploiting Tony's now-well known alcoholism) and the original "ComicBook/ArmorWars''.
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** ''Film/IronMan2'' sees Justin Hammer get hit with this royally. In the film, he thinks he's a grand manipulator, but in reality, he's a KnowItAllKnowNothing and BigBadWannabe who's the patsy of Ivan Vanko -- a far cry from the comics, where he very much ''is'' TheChessmaster, having been the BigBad of both "Demon in a Bottle" (manipulating events to include framing Iron Man for murder and exploiting Tony's now-known alcoholism) and the original "ComicBook/ArmorWars''.
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** ''Film/IronMan2'' sees Justin Hammer get hit with this royally. In the film, he thinks he's a grand manipulator, but in reality, he's a KnowItAllKnowNothing and BigBadWannabe who's the patsy of Ivan Vanko -- a far cry from the comics, where he very much ''is'' TheChessmaster, TheChessmaster and a DiabolicalMastermind in his own right, having been the BigBad of both "Demon in a Bottle" (manipulating events to include framing Iron Man for murder and exploiting Tony's now-known now-well known alcoholism) and the original "ComicBook/ArmorWars''.
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** ''Film/IronMan2'' sees Justin Hammer get hit with this royally. In the film, he thinks he's a grand manipulator, but in reality, he's a KnowItAllKnowNothing and BigBadWannabe who's the patsy of Ivan Vanko -- a far cry from the comics, where he very much ''is'' TheChessmaster, having been the BigBad of both "Demon in a Bottle" (manipulating events to include framing Iron Man for murder and exploiting Tony's now-known alcoholism) and the original "ComicBook/ArmorWars''.
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* ''Film/GodzillaVsKong -- The Official Movie Novelization'' has an exchange that wasn't present in the finished film: Mark Russell and Director Guillerman can't decide straight away whether they're rooting for Godzilla or Mechagodzilla. This would normally be quite reasonable, except that [[AdaptationalHeroism MonsterVerse Godzilla]] is normally exclusively heroic, whereas Mechagodzilla just ''annihilated'' several blocks of Hong Kong filled with people [[ForTheEvulz simply because he could]]. The book also confirms that [[Characters/MonsterVerseMarkRussell Mark Russell]] hasn't been the best father since Madison started to live with him following her mother's death, whereas the movie only suggested this was the case.
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* ''Film/GodzillaVsKong -- The Official Movie Novelization'' has an exchange that wasn't present in the finished film: [[Characters/MonsterVerseRussellFamily Mark Russell Russell]] and [[Characters/MonsterVerseMonarch Director Guillerman Guillerman]] can't decide straight away whether they're rooting for Godzilla or Mechagodzilla. This would normally be quite reasonable, except that [[AdaptationalHeroism MonsterVerse Godzilla]] is normally exclusively heroic, whereas Mechagodzilla just ''annihilated'' several blocks of Hong Kong filled with people [[ForTheEvulz simply because he could]]. The book also confirms that [[Characters/MonsterVerseMarkRussell Mark Russell]] hasn't been the best most competent father since Madison started to live with him following her mother's death, self-destructively overcompensating for his previous absence from his daughter's life by acting coddling and controlling towards her, and living in complete denial of how this is blatantly frustrating Madison and driving a wedge between them all over again; whereas the movie only suggested this was the case.
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** Cecil Turtle gets this along with AdaptationalJerkass and [[AdaptationalVillainy Villainy]] in ''WesternAnimation/TheLooneyTunesShow''. Cecil in the original shorts was one of the few characters to ever beat Bugs Bunny by outwitting him. He was also one of the few to see through Bugs's [[PaperThinDisguise obvious disguise]], but plays along in order to [[FlawExploitation exploit Bugs's bruised ego]] and trick him into giving himself a disadvantage. Cecil here, as a result of being the one to antagonize Bugs first, ends up on the receiving end of Bugs's [[KarmicTrickster karmic trickery]], falling for Bugs's disguises and being played like a fiddle. In his second appearance when he has Bugs and Porky at gunpoint, Bugs exploits his ego by [[JustBetweenYouAndMe making him share the details of his crimes]] and tricking him into siting back on Daffy's broken recliner, knocking him out.
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** Cecil Turtle gets this along with AdaptationalJerkass and [[AdaptationalVillainy Villainy]] in ''WesternAnimation/TheLooneyTunesShow''. Cecil in the original shorts was one of the few characters to ever beat Bugs Bunny by outwitting him. He was also one of the few to see through Bugs's [[PaperThinDisguise obvious disguise]], disguise]] but plays along in order to [[FlawExploitation exploit Bugs's bruised ego]] and trick him into giving putting himself at a disadvantage. Cecil here, as a result of being the one to antagonize Bugs first, ends up on the receiving end of Bugs's [[KarmicTrickster karmic trickery]], falling for Bugs's disguises and being played like a fiddle. In his second appearance when he has Bugs and Porky at gunpoint, Bugs exploits his ego by [[JustBetweenYouAndMe making him share the details of his crimes]] and tricking him into siting back on Daffy's broken recliner, knocking him himself out.
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** In the comics and original series, Dewey was just as smart as his brothers, the latter indicating at times that Dewey was slightly more intelligent than Huey and Louie. Here, he's by far the dumbest of the triplets, having little to no sense of caution, and is heavily implied to have suffered brain damage from being dropped as an egg. Despite this, he still shows some moments of intellect during adventures from time to time.
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** In [[ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse the comics comics]] and [[WesternAnimation/DuckTales1987 original series, series]], Dewey was just as smart as his brothers, the latter indicating at times that Dewey was slightly more intelligent than Huey and Louie. Here, he's by far the dumbest of the triplets, having little to no sense of caution, and is heavily implied to have suffered brain damage from being dropped as an egg. Despite this, he still shows some moments of intellect during adventures from time to time.
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** Overlapping with {{Flanderization}}, but Goku himself tends to get hit with this hard in both anime and manga adaptations of ''Super'', especially compared with the preceding ''Anime/DragonBallGT''. Most of his OlderAndWiser traits from the Buu Saga are chucked in the bin and he’s far, far more of a fight hungry dumbass who does everything from forgetting Senzu Beans and the talisman for the Evil Containment Wave during the fight against Zamasu, to inciting a multiversal tournament that will result in trillions of lives getting erased from existence and put his own universe in jeopardy[[note]]Though in all fairness, Zen-Oh was planning on doing that anyway, and the tournament turned out to be a SecretTestOfCharacter for the winning universe that resulted in everyone being brought back[[/note]]. He also doesn't know what a kiss is or why pregnancy is hard, despite being a married man with two sons, and at [[Anime/DragonBallSuperSuperHero one point]] chastises Vegeta for meditating which is something he's practiced before. Granted, there is some RevisitingTheRoots at play as Toriyama never intended Goku to be a mature protagonist, and it can be assumed that his current mindset is the result of his suppressed Saiyan instincts massively flaring up. Regardless, the CharacterDevelopment he got throughout ''Z'' is often disregarded for [[RuleOfFunny humor]], as well as [[AesopAmnesia relearning lessons he'd adopted years prior]].
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** Overlapping with {{Flanderization}}, but Goku himself tends to get hit with this hard in both anime and manga adaptations of ''Super'', especially compared with the preceding ''Anime/DragonBallGT''.''[[Anime/DragonBallZ Z]]'' and to lesser extent ''[[Anime/DragonBallGT GT]]''. Most of his OlderAndWiser traits from the Buu Saga are chucked in the bin and he’s far, far more of a fight hungry dumbass who does everything from forgetting Senzu Beans and the talisman for the Evil Containment Wave during the fight against Zamasu, to inciting a multiversal tournament that will result in trillions of lives getting erased from existence and put his own universe in jeopardy[[note]]Though in all fairness, Zen-Oh was planning on doing that anyway, and the tournament turned out to be a SecretTestOfCharacter for the winning universe that resulted in everyone being brought back[[/note]]. He also doesn't know what a kiss is or why pregnancy is hard, despite being a married man with two sons, and at [[Anime/DragonBallSuperSuperHero one point]] chastises Vegeta for meditating which is something he's practiced before. Granted, there is some RevisitingTheRoots at play as Toriyama never intended Goku to be a mature protagonist, and it can be assumed that his current mindset is the result of his suppressed Saiyan instincts massively flaring up. Regardless, the CharacterDevelopment he got throughout ''Z'' is often disregarded for [[RuleOfFunny humor]], as well as [[AesopAmnesia relearning lessons he'd adopted years prior]].
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* ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'': Alphonse starts off as an intelligent, insightful young boy who was the [[StraightMan sensible one]] compared to Ed. Later on he makes many very poor, and arguably stupid choices like taking Barry the Chopper's mind games to heart, and distrusting people who he's known all his life. This happens in both the manga and anime, but in the manga, Al learns from this and doesn't do anything like it again. In the first anime it mainly takes effect in the later half, where he runs off every time he gets upset, even though the Homunculi [[spoiler:and Dante]] are looking for and trying to kill them, going along with Shou Tucker's plans and not telling Ed (even though Tucker made his daughter [[spoiler:into a chimaera, resulting in her death]], and letting Sloth convince him that she's his mother ([[spoiler:which she [[CameBackWrong technically is]]), even though she is a Homunculi when Ed is trying to remind him that they're fighting for their lives, [[spoiler:immediately running towards Envy disguised as Winry, right after Ed says it isn't her, and barely putting up a fight]]. He arguably became more impulsive than his brother, whereas earlier in the show it was the other way around. This could be interpreted as the writers having Al act more like how a real little boy would if they were put in such a situation, [[spoiler:but he becomes more competent again in the finale]]. Other than that he basically becomes [[TheLoad quite the load]].
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* ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'': Alphonse starts off as an intelligent, insightful young boy who was the [[StraightMan sensible one]] compared to Ed. Later on he makes many very poor, and arguably stupid choices like taking Barry the Chopper's mind games to heart, and distrusting people who he's known all his life. This happens in both the manga and anime, but in the manga, Al learns from this and doesn't do anything like it again. In the first anime it mainly takes effect in the later half, where he runs off every time he gets upset, even though the Homunculi [[spoiler:and Dante]] are looking for and trying to kill them, going along with Shou Tucker's plans and not telling Ed (even though Tucker made his daughter [[spoiler:into a chimaera, resulting in her death]], and letting Sloth convince him that she's his mother ([[spoiler:which she [[CameBackWrong technically is]]), is]]]]), even though she is a Homunculi when Ed is trying to remind him that they're fighting for their lives, [[spoiler:immediately running towards Envy disguised as Winry, right after Ed says it isn't her, and barely putting up a fight]]. He arguably became more impulsive than his brother, whereas earlier in the show it was the other way around. This could be interpreted as the writers having Al act more like how a real little boy would if they were put in such a situation, [[spoiler:but he becomes more competent again in the finale]]. Other than that he basically becomes [[TheLoad quite the load]].
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*''Series/VoltesVLegacy'', the LiveActionAdaptation of ''Anime/VoltesV'' does this to Heinel and Katherine (who are named "Zardoz" and "Zandra" respectively).
**When Zardoz leads the Voltes team straight to his trap, instead of killing them (rendering the SuperRobot without its pilots and leaving Earth without it's only protectors, therefore fulfilling his role of being a ConqueringAlienPrince), he chooses to keep them alive and spar with them....despite spending the vast majority of previous episodes trying to murder them.
**Zardoz [[spoiler:disguises himself as a human to gather information on Camp Big Falcon]] and learns that the youngest pilot of the Voltes team, John, is a GadgeteerGenius. When he has the Voltes team in his trap, [[TheLeader Steve]] begs him to let Jon since he is just a child. Zardoz decides to have mercy and releases him, and Jon proceeds to rig the teleporter device to rescue the Voltes team. In contrast, Heinel in the original anime was [[WouldHurtAChild willing to hurt children]] and refused to show [[TheLeader Kenichi]] any mercy.
**In the original anime, when Katherine found out that [[spoiler:Zuhl]] was TheMole, she set up a trap for him using a RobotMe of Heinel, and then tried to have him killed off with a bomb. However, when Zandra found out that Judalah is a turncoat, she gathers her soldiers but toys with for her own entertainment, which leads to Judalah escaping.
**When Zardoz leads the Voltes team straight to his trap, instead of killing them (rendering the SuperRobot without its pilots and leaving Earth without it's only protectors, therefore fulfilling his role of being a ConqueringAlienPrince), he chooses to keep them alive and spar with them....despite spending the vast majority of previous episodes trying to murder them.
**Zardoz [[spoiler:disguises himself as a human to gather information on Camp Big Falcon]] and learns that the youngest pilot of the Voltes team, John, is a GadgeteerGenius. When he has the Voltes team in his trap, [[TheLeader Steve]] begs him to let Jon since he is just a child. Zardoz decides to have mercy and releases him, and Jon proceeds to rig the teleporter device to rescue the Voltes team. In contrast, Heinel in the original anime was [[WouldHurtAChild willing to hurt children]] and refused to show [[TheLeader Kenichi]] any mercy.
**In the original anime, when Katherine found out that [[spoiler:Zuhl]] was TheMole, she set up a trap for him using a RobotMe of Heinel, and then tried to have him killed off with a bomb. However, when Zandra found out that Judalah is a turncoat, she gathers her soldiers but toys with for her own entertainment, which leads to Judalah escaping.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Curbside}}'', an unsuccessful pilot revolving around an AnimatedAnthology starring revamped versions of Creator/{{Terrytoons}} characters, gave this treatment to Muskie Muskrat from ''WesternAnimation/TheDeputyDawgShow''. Rather than a clever trickster who regularly outwitted Deputy Dawg, he is made Deputy Dawg's bumbling sidekick who caused him grief unintentionally through his bumbling.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Curbside}}'', an unsuccessful pilot revolving around an AnimatedAnthology starring revamped versions of Creator/{{Terrytoons}} characters, gave this treatment to Muskie Muskrat from ''WesternAnimation/TheDeputyDawgShow''. Rather than a clever trickster who regularly outwitted Deputy Dawg, he is made Deputy Dawg's bumbling sidekick who caused him grief unintentionally through his bumbling.idiocy.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Curbside}}'', an unsuccessful pilot revolving around an AnimatedAnthology starring revamped versions of Creator/{{Terrytoons}} characters, gave this treatment to Muskie Muskrat from ''WesternAnimation/TheDeputyDawgShow''. Rather than a clever trickster who regularly outwitted Deputy Dawg, he is made Deputy Dawg's bumbling sidekick who caused him grief unintentionally through his bumbling.
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** Supergirl is more of an impulsive DumbMuscle than her mainline comics incarnation, being shown to do poorly in the field of academics and preferring to beat enemies with her fists instead of thinking over a strategy.
** This continuity's Barry Allen is considerably stupider than normal, as "[=#BackInAFlash=]" has him unable to understand Batgirl's verbose explanation on how he can use his super speed to travel through time, while "[=#ScrambledEggs=]" has him break his and Carter Hall's [[EggSitting assigned egg]] by putting it under Carter's rear under the flawed logic that Carter's alter ego being Hawkman and birds typically hatching eggs means that putting the egg under his keister is the best means of keeping the egg safe.
** Supergirl is more of an impulsive DumbMuscle than her mainline comics incarnation, being shown to do poorly in the field of academics and preferring to beat enemies with her fists instead of thinking over a strategy.
** This continuity's Barry Allen is considerably stupider than normal, as "[=#BackInAFlash=]" has him unable to understand Batgirl's verbose explanation on how he can use his super speed to travel through time, while "[=#ScrambledEggs=]" has him break his and Carter Hall's [[EggSitting assigned egg]] by putting it under Carter's rear under the flawed logic that Carter's alter ego being Hawkman and birds typically hatching eggs means that putting the egg under his keister is the best means of keeping the egg safe.
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* Creator/CoeurAlAran: Often used for laughs in his more comedic ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' fics:
** ''Fanfic/KnightOfSalem'': Whereas Salem's canon self was a ruthless and seemingly tactically-competent BigBad who apparently understood modern technology, the Salem of this fic is oftentimes ''significantly'' less in touch with the reality of what's happening, she misreads a lot of situations throughout hers, Jaune's and Tyrian's chaotic meandering across Remnant, and she's very behind on the technological and societal progressions since her medieval time -- after she's stripped of her control over all the planet's Grimm, only a combination of Salem managing to be chaotically competent through her stupidity, and her ''still'' being a magic-wielding PhysicalGod by modern Remnant's standards who can fall back on that to cow anyone around her, keep her and her group consistently afloat.
** ''Fanfic/ProfessorArc'': Ozpin is hit by this, along with "adaptational laziness" and arguably "adaptational insanity". While the [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} canon]] Ozpin certainly makes some questionable decisions, there is at least some logic behind them. In this story, Beacon is run by a man who is unable to handle basic paperwork, wastes millions on near-useless things like a golden lemur statue and appears more concerned about his coffee than about the fate of his school. Only Glynda's vigilance prevents Ozpin from destroying Beacon faster and more thoroughly than Cinder. Then again, some characters think he might be ObfuscatingStupidity, but it remains ambiguous how much, if any of his incompetence is actually fake.
** ''Fanfic/TheSecondTorch'' ([[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14291843/ link]]): As part of the fic's comedy, Roman Torchwick is significantly sillier, less apt and less self-aware than his conniving, street-smart and vicious canon self. He acts like a bumbling dad to Neopolitan, his solution to Neo being slightly under the weather is to feed her a ''cocktail of every pharmaceutical drug he could nab'' under the assumption that one of them would do the right trick, and he can't ever tell that Neo's subsequent "gestures of adoration" at him during the fic are her trying to throttle his neck in frustration.
** ''Fanfic/KnightOfSalem'': Whereas Salem's canon self was a ruthless and seemingly tactically-competent BigBad who apparently understood modern technology, the Salem of this fic is oftentimes ''significantly'' less in touch with the reality of what's happening, she misreads a lot of situations throughout hers, Jaune's and Tyrian's chaotic meandering across Remnant, and she's very behind on the technological and societal progressions since her medieval time -- after she's stripped of her control over all the planet's Grimm, only a combination of Salem managing to be chaotically competent through her stupidity, and her ''still'' being a magic-wielding PhysicalGod by modern Remnant's standards who can fall back on that to cow anyone around her, keep her and her group consistently afloat.
** ''Fanfic/ProfessorArc'': Ozpin is hit by this, along with "adaptational laziness" and arguably "adaptational insanity". While the [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} canon]] Ozpin certainly makes some questionable decisions, there is at least some logic behind them. In this story, Beacon is run by a man who is unable to handle basic paperwork, wastes millions on near-useless things like a golden lemur statue and appears more concerned about his coffee than about the fate of his school. Only Glynda's vigilance prevents Ozpin from destroying Beacon faster and more thoroughly than Cinder. Then again, some characters think he might be ObfuscatingStupidity, but it remains ambiguous how much, if any of his incompetence is actually fake.
** ''Fanfic/TheSecondTorch'' ([[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14291843/ link]]): As part of the fic's comedy, Roman Torchwick is significantly sillier, less apt and less self-aware than his conniving, street-smart and vicious canon self. He acts like a bumbling dad to Neopolitan, his solution to Neo being slightly under the weather is to feed her a ''cocktail of every pharmaceutical drug he could nab'' under the assumption that one of them would do the right trick, and he can't ever tell that Neo's subsequent "gestures of adoration" at him during the fic are her trying to throttle his neck in frustration.
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* Creator/CoeurAlAran: Often used for laughs in his more comedic ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' fics:
** ''Fanfic/KnightOfSalem'': Whereas Salem's canon self was a ruthless and seemingly tactically-competent BigBad who apparently understood modern technology, the Salem of this fic is oftentimes ''significantly'' less in touch with the reality of what's happening, she misreads a lot of situations throughout hers, Jaune's and Tyrian's chaotic meandering across Remnant, and she's very behind on the technological and societal progressions since her medieval time.
** ''Fanfic/ProfessorArc'': Ozpin is hit by this, along with "adaptational laziness" and arguably "adaptational insanity". While the [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} canon]] Ozpin certainly makes some questionable decisions, there is at least some logic behind them. In this story, Beacon is run by a man who is unable to handle basic paperwork, wastes millions on near-useless things like a golden lemur statue and appears more concerned about his coffee than about the fate of his school. Only Glynda's vigilance prevents Ozpin from destroying Beacon faster and more thoroughly than Cinder. Then again, some characters think he might be ObfuscatingStupidity, but it remains ambiguous how much, if any of his incompetence is actually fake.
** ''Fanfic/TheSecondTorch'' ([[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14291843/ link]]): As part of the fic's comedy, Roman Torchwick is significantly sillier, less apt and less self-aware than his conniving and vicious canon self. He acts like a bumbling dad to Neopolitan, his solution to Neo being slightly under the weather is to feed her a ''cocktail of every pharmaceutical drug he could nab'' under the assumption that one of them would do the right trick, and he can't ever tell that Neo's multiple "gestures of adoration" at him during the fic are her trying to throttle him in frustration at his actions.
** ''Fanfic/KnightOfSalem'': Whereas Salem's canon self was a ruthless and seemingly tactically-competent BigBad who apparently understood modern technology, the Salem of this fic is oftentimes ''significantly'' less in touch with the reality of what's happening, she misreads a lot of situations throughout hers, Jaune's and Tyrian's chaotic meandering across Remnant, and she's very behind on the technological and societal progressions since her medieval time.
** ''Fanfic/ProfessorArc'': Ozpin is hit by this, along with "adaptational laziness" and arguably "adaptational insanity". While the [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} canon]] Ozpin certainly makes some questionable decisions, there is at least some logic behind them. In this story, Beacon is run by a man who is unable to handle basic paperwork, wastes millions on near-useless things like a golden lemur statue and appears more concerned about his coffee than about the fate of his school. Only Glynda's vigilance prevents Ozpin from destroying Beacon faster and more thoroughly than Cinder. Then again, some characters think he might be ObfuscatingStupidity, but it remains ambiguous how much, if any of his incompetence is actually fake.
** ''Fanfic/TheSecondTorch'' ([[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14291843/ link]]): As part of the fic's comedy, Roman Torchwick is significantly sillier, less apt and less self-aware than his conniving and vicious canon self. He acts like a bumbling dad to Neopolitan, his solution to Neo being slightly under the weather is to feed her a ''cocktail of every pharmaceutical drug he could nab'' under the assumption that one of them would do the right trick, and he can't ever tell that Neo's multiple "gestures of adoration" at him during the fic are her trying to throttle him in frustration at his actions.
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* PlayedForLaughs with All Might in ''Fanfic/OneX''. He already had his issues with being a teacher in canon such as regularly referring to cue cards, but that's taken even further here, regularly forgetting his lines to the point Izuku has to subtly coach him, failing to pull off dramatic movements due to technology errors, and showing himself to be a lot less composed to his students. All of 1-X end up considering him much more [[EndearinglyDorky dorky]] in person as a result.
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* ''Fanfic/TheEllieRoseCollection'': As the title suggests, Ellie is made the protagonist instead of Henry, essentially making her the IdiotHero instead of him, whereas in the source material, she often plays the role of the OnlySaneWoman.
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* ''Fanfic/TheEllieRoseCollection'': As While Stoick was a leader set in his ways in ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'', it was mostly out of concern for the title suggests, Ellie is made prosperity of his village. In ''Fanfic/TheDragonAndTheButterfly'', he allows Berk to fall into ruin when the protagonist instead raids increase out of Henry, essentially making her denial, [[InsaneTrollLogic logics himself]] into thinking that Hiccup's bond with Toothless is just teen angst and that he would be okay with killing Toothless later on, and repeatedly ruins what little progress he makes with Hiccup by either [[OpenMouthInsertFoot saying the IdiotHero instead of him, whereas in wrong thing]] or doing the source material, she often plays wrong thing. He had weeks to properly prepare for their assault on the role Red Death and a platoon of trained dragon riders at his disposal, yet he ensures that all of the OnlySaneWoman.Dragon Riders stay behind out of misguided protectiveness towards his son, turning what was an ignorantly-made LastStand to an outright suicide mission.
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* ''Fanfic/ProfessorArc'': Ozpin is hit by this, along with "adaptational laziness" and arguably "adaptational insanity". While the [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} canon]] Ozpin certainly makes some questionable decisions, there is at least some logic behind them. In this story, Beacon is run by a man who is unable to handle basic paperwork, wastes millions on near-useless things like a golden lemur statue and appears more concerned about his coffee than about the fate of his school. Only Glynda's vigilance prevents Ozpin from destroying Beacon faster and more thoroughly than Cinder. Then again, some characters think he might be ObfuscatingStupidity, but it remains ambiguous how much, if any of his incompetence is actually fake.
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* Creator/CoeurAlAran: Often used for laughs in his more comedic ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' fics:
** ''Fanfic/KnightOfSalem'': Whereas Salem's canon self was a ruthless and seemingly tactically-competent BigBad who apparently understood modern technology, the Salem of this fic is oftentimes ''significantly'' less in touch with the reality of what's happening, she misreads a lot of situations throughout hers, Jaune's and Tyrian's chaotic meandering across Remnant, and she's very behind on the technological and societal progressions since her medieval time.
** ''Fanfic/ProfessorArc'': Ozpin is hit by this, along with "adaptational laziness" and arguably "adaptational insanity". While the [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} canon]] Ozpin certainly makes some questionable decisions, there is at least some logic behind them. In this story, Beacon is run by a man who is unable to handle basic paperwork, wastes millions on near-useless things like a golden lemur statue and appears more concerned about his coffee than about the fate of his school. Only Glynda's vigilance prevents Ozpin from destroying Beacon faster and more thoroughly than Cinder. Then again, some characters think he might be ObfuscatingStupidity, but it remains ambiguous how much, if any of his incompetence is actuallyfake.fake.
** ''Fanfic/TheSecondTorch'' ([[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14291843/ link]]): As part of the fic's comedy, Roman Torchwick is significantly sillier, less apt and less self-aware than his conniving and vicious canon self. He acts like a bumbling dad to Neopolitan, his solution to Neo being slightly under the weather is to feed her a ''cocktail of every pharmaceutical drug he could nab'' under the assumption that one of them would do the right trick, and he can't ever tell that Neo's multiple "gestures of adoration" at him during the fic are her trying to throttle him in frustration at his actions.
** ''Fanfic/KnightOfSalem'': Whereas Salem's canon self was a ruthless and seemingly tactically-competent BigBad who apparently understood modern technology, the Salem of this fic is oftentimes ''significantly'' less in touch with the reality of what's happening, she misreads a lot of situations throughout hers, Jaune's and Tyrian's chaotic meandering across Remnant, and she's very behind on the technological and societal progressions since her medieval time.
** ''Fanfic/ProfessorArc'': Ozpin is hit by this, along with "adaptational laziness" and arguably "adaptational insanity". While the [[WebAnimation/{{RWBY}} canon]] Ozpin certainly makes some questionable decisions, there is at least some logic behind them. In this story, Beacon is run by a man who is unable to handle basic paperwork, wastes millions on near-useless things like a golden lemur statue and appears more concerned about his coffee than about the fate of his school. Only Glynda's vigilance prevents Ozpin from destroying Beacon faster and more thoroughly than Cinder. Then again, some characters think he might be ObfuscatingStupidity, but it remains ambiguous how much, if any of his incompetence is actually
** ''Fanfic/TheSecondTorch'' ([[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14291843/ link]]): As part of the fic's comedy, Roman Torchwick is significantly sillier, less apt and less self-aware than his conniving and vicious canon self. He acts like a bumbling dad to Neopolitan, his solution to Neo being slightly under the weather is to feed her a ''cocktail of every pharmaceutical drug he could nab'' under the assumption that one of them would do the right trick, and he can't ever tell that Neo's multiple "gestures of adoration" at him during the fic are her trying to throttle him in frustration at his actions.
* ''Fanfic/TheEllieRoseCollection'': As the title suggests, Ellie is made the protagonist instead of Henry, essentially making her the IdiotHero instead of him, whereas in the source material, she often plays the role of the OnlySaneWoman.
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* While Stoick was a leader set in his ways in ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'', it was mostly out of concern for the prosperity of his village. In ''Fanfic/TheDragonAndTheButterfly'', he allows Berk to fall into ruin when the raids increase out of denial, [[InsaneTrollLogic logics himself]] into thinking that Hiccup's bond with Toothless is just teen angst and that he would be okay with killing Toothless later on, and repeatedly ruins what little progress he makes with Hiccup by either [[OpenMouthInsertFoot saying the wrong thing]] or doing the wrong thing. He had weeks to properly prepare for their assault on the Red Death and a platoon of trained dragon riders at his disposal, yet he ensures that all of the Dragon Riders stay behind out of misguided protectiveness towards his son, turning what was an ignorantly-made LastStand to an outright suicide mission.
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* PlayedForLaughs with All Might in ''Fanfic/OneX''. He already had his issues with being a teacher in canon such as regularly referring to cue cards, but that's taken even further here, regularly forgetting his lines to the point Izuku has to subtly coach him, failing to pull off dramatic movements due to technology errors, and showing himself to be a lot less composed to his students. All of 1-X end up considering him much more [[EndearinglyDorky dorky]] in person as a result.
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** The titular character gets hit with a [[DownplayedTrope downplayed]] case of this trope. He nowhere near an idiot and overall fairly intelligent, unlike his comic counterpart, he's absolutely ''terrible'' at keeping his secret identity under wraps, regularly displaying his powers in obvious ways and then [[BadLiar coming up with unconvincing lies]] to try and cover it up. Lois is quickly able to deduce that Clark is Superman partly because of this, [[spoiler:while Jimmy is revealed to have known about Clark's superpowered status for years because he kept accidentally breaking things and coming up with unbelievable excuses]].
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** The titular character gets hit with a [[DownplayedTrope downplayed]] case of this trope. He He's nowhere near an idiot and overall fairly intelligent, but unlike his comic counterpart, he's absolutely ''terrible'' at keeping his secret identity under wraps, regularly displaying his powers in obvious ways and then [[BadLiar coming up with unconvincing lies]] to try and cover it up. Lois is quickly able to deduce that Clark is Superman partly because of this, [[spoiler:while Jimmy is revealed to have known about Clark's superpowered status for years because he kept accidentally breaking things and coming up with unbelievable excuses]].
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* Ben Riley aka [[Characters/MarvelComicsScarletSpider Scarlet Spider]] gets hit with in ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse'' along AdaptationalWimp. In the comics he’s a GeniusBruiser being a clone of Peter and incredibly skilled fighter. Here [[BrainlessBeauty he’s got more muscles than brains]], ThinkingOutLoud to what he sees around him while talking like he’s in a Liefeld comic resulting in him effortlessly falling into Gwen’s trap and being defeated. This was certainly a TakeThat from the filmmakers at ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'' as well as NinetiesAntiHero era in general (which are both often considered reasonable targets of mockery) but suffice to say Ben’s fans weren’t amused with the portrayal.
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* Ben Riley aka [[Characters/MarvelComicsScarletSpider Scarlet Spider]] gets hit with in ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse'' along with AdaptationalWimp. In the comics he’s a GeniusBruiser being a clone of Peter and incredibly skilled fighter. Here [[BrainlessBeauty he’s got more muscles than brains]], ThinkingOutLoud to what he sees around him while talking like he’s in a Liefeld comic resulting in him effortlessly falling into Gwen’s trap and being defeated. This was certainly a TakeThat from the filmmakers at ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'' as well as NinetiesAntiHero era in general (which are both often considered reasonable targets of mockery) but suffice to say Ben’s fans weren’t amused with the portrayal.
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* ''Fanfic/TheEllieRoseCollection'': As the title suggests, Ellie is made the protagonist instead of Henry, essentially making her the IdiotHero instead of him, whereas in the source material, she often plays the role of the OnlySaneWoman.
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** Overlapping with {{Flanderization}} but Goku himself tends to get hit with this hard in both anime and manga adaptations of ''Super''. Most of his OlderAndWiser traits from the Buu Saga are chucked in the bin and he’s far, far more of a fight hungry dumbass who does everything from forget Rice Cooker for the Evil Containment for the fight against Zamasu to inciting a multiversal tournament that will result in trillions of lives getting erased from existence and put his own universe in jeopardy. Not to mention not even knowing what a kiss is or why pregnancy is hard. Granted there is some RevisitingTheRoots at play, as Toriyama never intended Goku to be a mature protagonist but it is still disregarding the CharacterDevelopment he got throughout ''Z'' for the sake of humour.
* ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'': Alphonse starts off as an intelligent, insightful young boy who was the [[StraightMan sensible one]] compared to Ed. Later on he makes many very poor, and arguably stupid choices like taking Barry the Chopper's mind games to heart, and distrusting people who he's known all his life. This happens in both the manga and anime, but in the manga, Al learns from this and doesn't do anything like it again. In the first anime it mainly takes effect in the later half, where he runs off every time he gets upset, even though the Homunculi [[spoiler:and Dante]] are looking for and trying to kill them, going along with Shou Tucker's plans and not telling Ed (even though Tucker made his daughter [[spoiler:into a chimaera, resulting in her death]], and letting Sloth convince him that she's his mother, even though she is a Homunculi when Ed is trying to remind him that they're fighting for their lives, [[spoiler:immediately running towards Envy disguised as Winry, right after Ed says it isn't her, and barely putting up a fight]]. He arguably became more impulsive than his brother, whereas earlier in the show it was the other way around. This could be interpreted as the writers having Al act more like how a real little boy would if they were put in such a situation, [[spoiler:but he becomes more competent again in the finale]]. Other than that he basically becomes [[TheLoad quite the load]].
* ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'': Alphonse starts off as an intelligent, insightful young boy who was the [[StraightMan sensible one]] compared to Ed. Later on he makes many very poor, and arguably stupid choices like taking Barry the Chopper's mind games to heart, and distrusting people who he's known all his life. This happens in both the manga and anime, but in the manga, Al learns from this and doesn't do anything like it again. In the first anime it mainly takes effect in the later half, where he runs off every time he gets upset, even though the Homunculi [[spoiler:and Dante]] are looking for and trying to kill them, going along with Shou Tucker's plans and not telling Ed (even though Tucker made his daughter [[spoiler:into a chimaera, resulting in her death]], and letting Sloth convince him that she's his mother, even though she is a Homunculi when Ed is trying to remind him that they're fighting for their lives, [[spoiler:immediately running towards Envy disguised as Winry, right after Ed says it isn't her, and barely putting up a fight]]. He arguably became more impulsive than his brother, whereas earlier in the show it was the other way around. This could be interpreted as the writers having Al act more like how a real little boy would if they were put in such a situation, [[spoiler:but he becomes more competent again in the finale]]. Other than that he basically becomes [[TheLoad quite the load]].
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** Overlapping with {{Flanderization}} {{Flanderization}}, but Goku himself tends to get hit with this hard in both anime and manga adaptations of ''Super''. ''Super'', especially compared with the preceding ''Anime/DragonBallGT''. Most of his OlderAndWiser traits from the Buu Saga are chucked in the bin and he’s far, far more of a fight hungry dumbass who does everything from forget Rice Cooker forgetting Senzu Beans and the talisman for the Evil Containment for Wave during the fight against Zamasu Zamasu, to inciting a multiversal tournament that will result in trillions of lives getting erased from existence and put his own universe in jeopardy. Not jeopardy[[note]]Though in all fairness, Zen-Oh was planning on doing that anyway, and the tournament turned out to mention not even knowing be a SecretTestOfCharacter for the winning universe that resulted in everyone being brought back[[/note]]. He also doesn't know what a kiss is or why pregnancy is hard. Granted hard, despite being a married man with two sons, and at [[Anime/DragonBallSuperSuperHero one point]] chastises Vegeta for meditating which is something he's practiced before. Granted, there is some RevisitingTheRoots at play, play as Toriyama never intended Goku to be a mature protagonist but protagonist, and it can be assumed that his current mindset is still disregarding the result of his suppressed Saiyan instincts massively flaring up. Regardless, the CharacterDevelopment he got throughout ''Z'' is often disregarded for the sake of humour.[[RuleOfFunny humor]], as well as [[AesopAmnesia relearning lessons he'd adopted years prior]].
* ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'': Alphonse starts off as an intelligent, insightful young boy who was the [[StraightMan sensible one]] compared to Ed. Later on he makes many very poor, and arguably stupid choices like taking Barry the Chopper's mind games to heart, and distrusting people who he's known all his life. This happens in both the manga and anime, but in the manga, Al learns from this and doesn't do anything like it again. In the first anime it mainly takes effect in the later half, where he runs off every time he gets upset, even though the Homunculi [[spoiler:and Dante]] are looking for and trying to kill them, going along with Shou Tucker's plans and not telling Ed (even though Tucker made his daughter [[spoiler:into a chimaera, resulting in her death]], and letting Sloth convince him that she's hismother, mother ([[spoiler:which she [[CameBackWrong technically is]]), even though she is a Homunculi when Ed is trying to remind him that they're fighting for their lives, [[spoiler:immediately running towards Envy disguised as Winry, right after Ed says it isn't her, and barely putting up a fight]]. He arguably became more impulsive than his brother, whereas earlier in the show it was the other way around. This could be interpreted as the writers having Al act more like how a real little boy would if they were put in such a situation, [[spoiler:but he becomes more competent again in the finale]]. Other than that he basically becomes [[TheLoad quite the load]].
* ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'': Alphonse starts off as an intelligent, insightful young boy who was the [[StraightMan sensible one]] compared to Ed. Later on he makes many very poor, and arguably stupid choices like taking Barry the Chopper's mind games to heart, and distrusting people who he's known all his life. This happens in both the manga and anime, but in the manga, Al learns from this and doesn't do anything like it again. In the first anime it mainly takes effect in the later half, where he runs off every time he gets upset, even though the Homunculi [[spoiler:and Dante]] are looking for and trying to kill them, going along with Shou Tucker's plans and not telling Ed (even though Tucker made his daughter [[spoiler:into a chimaera, resulting in her death]], and letting Sloth convince him that she's his
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** This continuity's version of Batman is generally less knowledgeable than his previous and subsequent incarnations. In every other version, there's a reason he's the {{Trope Namer|s}} for the BatmanGambit; in this version he's very easily manipulated by Lex Luthor. Also, Batman's greatest weapon is usually being a master manipulator and being CrazyPrepared. A lot of fans would have trouble believing he would ever face Superman in battle without knowing everything about him, including his mother's name.
** King Shark from ''Film/TheSuicideSquad''. While King Shark has never been a genius in any medium he's appeared in, this one is a childish meathead who only speaks in broken HulkSpeak and has to be herded around from place to place like a small child.
** This continuity's version of Batman is generally less knowledgeable than his previous and subsequent incarnations. In every other version, there's a reason he's the {{Trope Namer|s}} for the BatmanGambit; in this version he's very easily manipulated by Lex Luthor. Also, Batman's greatest weapon is usually being a master manipulator and being CrazyPrepared. A lot of fans would have trouble believing he would ever face Superman in battle without knowing everything about him, including his mother's name.
** King Shark from ''Film/TheSuicideSquad''. While King Shark has never been a genius in any medium he's appeared in, this one is a childish meathead who only speaks in broken HulkSpeak and has to be herded around from place to place like a small child.
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* King Shark from ''Film/TheSuicideSquad''. While King Shark has never been a genius in any medium he's appeared in, this one is a childish meathead who only speaks in broken HulkSpeak and has to be herded around from place to place like a small child.
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* ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica portrays Adolf Hitler as a ranting and raving buffoon who leads mostly because of his cult of personality and charisma than for an any real merit. It further shows several times that he does not fully comprehend the consequences of his actions and is as equally [[IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance ignorant]] as he is malicious.
* ComicBook/New52:
** Captain Stingaree was wrong about his hated identical brothers being ComicBook/{{Batman}} but he had clear reasons for drawing that conclusion and Bruce himself ensured that his suspicions were (initially) confirmed by having one of said brothers be unmasked by Karl as Batman. His plan was also meticulously plotted out. Post-ComicBook/{{Flashpoint|DCComics}}, his brothers are overweight with absolutely no resemblance to Batman and he accuses them of being Batman while Bats himself is ''right there''. He also generally acts like a loon in a poor portrayal of his adaptation specific mental illnesses.
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** Captain Stingaree was wrong about his hated identical brothers being ComicBook/{{Batman}} but he had clear reasons for drawing that conclusion and Bruce himself ensured that his suspicions were (initially) confirmed by having one of said brothers be unmasked by Karl as Batman. His plan was also meticulously plotted out. Post-ComicBook/{{Flashpoint|DCComics}}, his brothers are overweight with absolutely no resemblance to Batman and he accuses them of being Batman while Bats himself is ''right there''. He also generally acts like a loon in a poor portrayal of his adaptation specific mental illnesses.
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* ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica ''ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica'': The series portrays Adolf Hitler as a ranting and raving buffoon who leads mostly because of his cult of personality and charisma than for an any real merit. It further shows several times that he does not fully comprehend the consequences of his actions and is as equally [[IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance ignorant]] as he is malicious.
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** Captain Stingaree was wrong about his hated identical brothers being ComicBook/{{Batman}} but he had clear reasons for drawing that conclusion and Bruce himself ensured that his suspicions were (initially) confirmed by having one of said brothers be unmasked by Karl as Batman. His plan was also meticulously plotted out. Post-ComicBook/{{Flashpoint|DCComics}}, his brothers are overweight with absolutely no resemblance to Batman and he accuses them of being Batman while Bats himself is ''right there''. He also generally acts like a loon in a poor portrayal of hisadaptation specific adaptation-specific mental illnesses.
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** Captain Stingaree was wrong about his hated identical brothers being ComicBook/{{Batman}} but he had clear reasons for drawing that conclusion and Bruce himself ensured that his suspicions were (initially) confirmed by having one of said brothers be unmasked by Karl as Batman. His plan was also meticulously plotted out. Post-ComicBook/{{Flashpoint|DCComics}}, his brothers are overweight with absolutely no resemblance to Batman and he accuses them of being Batman while Bats himself is ''right there''. He also generally acts like a loon in a poor portrayal of his
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* In the comics, the Hobie Brown version of the [[Characters/SpiderManSupportingCharacters Prowler]] was a GadgeteerGenius and made his suit himself. In ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'', Hobie has no such skills and had to turn to ComicBook/TheKingpin's men to get his suit.
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* ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'': In the comics, the Hobie Brown version of the [[Characters/SpiderManSupportingCharacters Prowler]] was a GadgeteerGenius and made his suit himself. In ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries'', the series, Hobie has no such skills and had has to turn to ComicBook/TheKingpin's men to get his suit.
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* In the mainline ''Franchise/MarvelComics'', ComicBook/KittyPryde is a TeenGenius, but in ''Manga/XMenMisfits'' she's unable to understand basic geometry, or manage to work her powers properly after weeks of training.
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* In the mainline ''Franchise/MarvelComics'', ''Franchise/MarvelUniverse'', ComicBook/KittyPryde is a TeenGenius, but in ''Manga/XMenMisfits'' she's unable to understand basic geometry, or manage to work her powers properly after weeks of training.
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* In the live-action drama based on ''Manga/YamadaKunAndTheSevenWitches'', Ryu Yamada's inability to grasp complicated concepts reaches new heights. In the drama, he generally cannot understand ''any'' of his friends' observations without long explanations, the most noteworthy example being when Shiraishi has to use five minutes of an episode to explain to him how his copy power works, and whose powers he has copied. In the manga, the same conversation only takes a few panels, and Yamada immediately grasps what's going on once Shiraishi mentions that ''she'' is the one with the body-swap power.
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyAdventuresWithSuperman'':
** The titular character gets hit with a [[DownplayedTrope downplayed]] case of this trope. He nowhere near an idiot and overall fairly intelligent, unlike his comic counterpart, he's absolutely ''terrible'' at keeping his secret identity under wraps, regularly displaying his powers in obvious ways and then [[BadLiar coming up with unconvincing lies]] to try and cover it up. Lois is quickly able to deduce that Clark is Superman partly because of this, [[spoiler:while Jimmy is revealed to have known about Clark's superpowered status for years because he kept accidentally breaking things and coming up with unbelievable excuses]].
** In the comics, Heat Wave invented all of his own tech and has never had any problems with maintaining them. This show's version of the character, meanwhile, not only didn't invent her tech, but also doesn't seem particularly good as maintaining them, with them constantly malfunctioning throughout her debut episode.
** The titular character gets hit with a [[DownplayedTrope downplayed]] case of this trope. He nowhere near an idiot and overall fairly intelligent, unlike his comic counterpart, he's absolutely ''terrible'' at keeping his secret identity under wraps, regularly displaying his powers in obvious ways and then [[BadLiar coming up with unconvincing lies]] to try and cover it up. Lois is quickly able to deduce that Clark is Superman partly because of this, [[spoiler:while Jimmy is revealed to have known about Clark's superpowered status for years because he kept accidentally breaking things and coming up with unbelievable excuses]].
** In the comics, Heat Wave invented all of his own tech and has never had any problems with maintaining them. This show's version of the character, meanwhile, not only didn't invent her tech, but also doesn't seem particularly good as maintaining them, with them constantly malfunctioning throughout her debut episode.
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* ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica portrays Adolf Hitler as a ranting and raving buffoon who leads mostly because of his cult of personality and charisma than for an any real merit. It further shows several times that he does not fully comprehend the consequences of his actions and is as equally [[IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance ignorant]] as he is malicious.
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** ''ComicBook/WonderWoman1987'': The Amazons as a culture were hit with a stark removal of intelligence, knowledge and scholarship in their ComicBook/PostCrisis revamp. The original Amazons had a Paradise whose culture was based on scholarship and study along with competitive athletics; they had a small space worthy fleet of ships, hosted troubled children in their school, had advanced medical procedures, welcomed refugees, and regularly played [[BulletCatch bullets and bracelets]] as a game. The Post-Crisis Amazons are isolationists trapped in a Bronze Age stasis who are flabbergasted by modern technology and see the first gun they encounter as a mystical artifact to be kept in a vault.
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** ''ComicBook/WonderWoman1987'': The Amazons as a culture were hit with a stark removal of intelligence, knowledge and scholarship in their ComicBook/PostCrisis revamp. The original Amazons had a Paradise whose culture was based on scholarship and study along with competitive athletics; they had a small space worthy fleet of ships, hosted troubled children in their school, had advanced medical procedures, welcomed refugees, and regularly played [[BulletCatch bullets and bracelets]] as a game. The Silver Age Earth One Amazons weren't QUITE as advanced, but this was a plot point, as the more advanced technology outside of Paradise Island on Earth One FORCED them to be even more isolationist and lead to an attempted coup on Hyppolyte, whom an Amazon scientist believed was holding back their progress. After this coup is suppressed, the Amazons start finding ways to catch up to their Earth Two golden age counterparts. The Post-Crisis Amazons are isolationists trapped in a Bronze Age stasis who are flabbergasted by modern technology and see the first gun they encounter as a mystical artifact to be kept in a vault.
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* In ''Series/TheMuppetShow'' (1976), the Swedish Chef, while clumsy and a little scatterbrained, is still a competent chef, whose sketches' humour is usually derived from the bizarre ways he cooks (often involving large weapons), the food itself fighting back (typically when it's a live animal), or something completely out of left field happening (such as when he discovered he had a coffee pot growing out of his head). In ''Series/MuppetsNow'' (2020), the Swedish Chef cannot handle a single thing correctly in the kitchen, and usually just makes a mess while the guest star (a real-life celebrity chef) demonstrates a recipe. In one episode, he can't even make rice properly without both a rice cooker and his kitchen aid Beverly supervising him.
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* ''Film/TheMuppetChristmasCarol'': While not stupid by any means, the Muppet version of The Ghost of Christmas Present is shown to be rather absent-minded and often forgets what he was talking about. He explains that, due to specifically embodying the present, it's difficult for him to focus on anything other than the here and now, an idea unique to this version of the story.
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* Ben Riley aka [[Characters/MarvelComicsScarletSpider Scarlet Spider]] gets hit with in ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse'' along AdaptationalWimp. In the comics he’s a GeniusBruiser being a clone of Peter and incredibly skilled fighter. Here [[BrainlessBeauty he’s got more muscles than brains]], ThinkingOutLoud to what he sees around him while talking like he’s in a Liefeld comic resulting in him effortlessly falling into Gwen’s trap and being defeated. This was certainly a TakeThat from the filmmakers at ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'' as well as NinetiesAntiHero era in general (which are both considered targets of mockery) but suffice to say Ben’s fans weren’t amused with the portrayal.
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* Ben Riley aka [[Characters/MarvelComicsScarletSpider Scarlet Spider]] gets hit with in ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManAcrossTheSpiderVerse'' along AdaptationalWimp. In the comics he’s a GeniusBruiser being a clone of Peter and incredibly skilled fighter. Here [[BrainlessBeauty he’s got more muscles than brains]], ThinkingOutLoud to what he sees around him while talking like he’s in a Liefeld comic resulting in him effortlessly falling into Gwen’s trap and being defeated. This was certainly a TakeThat from the filmmakers at ''ComicBook/TheCloneSaga'' as well as NinetiesAntiHero era in general (which are both often considered reasonable targets of mockery) but suffice to say Ben’s fans weren’t amused with the portrayal.
