History Main / AbdicateTheThrone

7th May '18 9:27:11 PM thatother1dude
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** A semi-example: on two occasions, [[TheMentor Iroh]] has a chance to challenge his brother, [[BigBad Ozai]], to be Fire Lord: right after their father's death (the audience knows for a fact that the father wanted Iroh to succeed him), and during the final battle at the end of the series. Both times he refuses: the first time most likely because he's still [[HeroicBSOD devastated by the death of his son]], and later because he feels Ozai's son, [[TheAragorn Zuko]], should be Fire Lord instead.

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** A semi-example: on two occasions, [[TheMentor Iroh]] has a chance to challenge his brother, [[BigBad Ozai]], to be Fire Lord: right after their father's death (the audience knows for a fact that the father wanted Iroh to succeed him), and during the final battle at the end of the series. Both times he refuses: the first time most likely because he's still [[HeroicBSOD devastated by the death of his son]], and later because he feels Ozai's son, [[TheAragorn [[TheWisePrince Zuko]], should be Fire Lord instead.
15th Apr '18 4:14:29 PM SonofAkatosh
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* Britain's Edward VIII abdicated in 1936, less than a year into his reign. He was determined to marry American divorcée Wallis Simpson and keep the throne. Not only did divorce carry great stigma at the time, but the King was supposed to be the head of the Church of England, who taught that marrying after divorce was wrong if the divorced partner was still alive.[[note]]Bear in mind that neither of the two previous divorced English kings remarried while their divorced queens were still alive. UsefulNotes/HenryVIII beheaded Anne Boleyn after divorcing her so he could marry Jane Seymour, and his marriage to Anne of Cleves was never consummated and thus annulled rather than divorced. Later, [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfHanover George I]] (who had divorced his wife Sophia Dorothea sixteen years before inheriting the throne) never remarried after the divorce, choosing instead to take mistresses. No English or British monarch since the Reformation had attempted to marry a divorcée.[[/note]] He didn't really fancy being King anyway and neither did the British public (he was known to have German sympathies). So that's OK.

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* Britain's Edward VIII abdicated in 1936, less than a year into his reign. He was determined to marry American divorcée Wallis Simpson and keep the throne. Not only did divorce carry great stigma at the time, but the King was supposed to be the head of the Church of England, who taught that marrying after divorce was wrong if the divorced partner was still alive.[[note]]Bear in mind that neither of the two previous divorced previously "divorced" English kings remarried while their divorced queens were still alive. UsefulNotes/HenryVIII beheaded Anne Boleyn after divorcing her so he could marry Jane Seymour, and his marriage to Anne of Cleves was never consummated and thus [[UsefulNotes/HenryVIII Henry VIII's]] marriages were all annulled rather than divorced. Later, divorced, and [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfHanover George I]] (who had divorced his wife Sophia Dorothea sixteen years before inheriting the throne) never remarried after the divorce, choosing instead to take mistresses. No English or British monarch since the Reformation had attempted to marry a divorcée.[[/note]] He didn't really fancy being King anyway and neither did the British public establishment (he was known to have German sympathies).sympathies, but the wider public didn't find out until decades after). So that's OK.



** Also compounding the issue of abdication in Britain is the fact that technically, the monarch [[ResignationsNotAccepted cannot abdicate without the consent of Parliament--and of the parliaments or governments of about half of the other Commonwealth Realms]]--because of the old British and typical Commonwealth rule that parliament alone is permitted to decide the succession to the throne, and that includes who currently sits on it. It's unlikely that a monarch intending to abdicate would be denied, but the effort it would take to get all the necessary approvals would be very daunting.

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** Also compounding the issue of abdication in Britain is the fact that technically, the monarch [[ResignationsNotAccepted cannot abdicate without the consent of Parliament--and of every one of the parliaments or governments of about half of the other Commonwealth Realms]]--because of the old British and typical Commonwealth rule that parliament alone is permitted to decide the succession to the throne, and that includes who currently sits on it. It's unlikely that a monarch intending to abdicate would be denied, but the effort it would take to get all the necessary approvals would be very daunting.
15th Apr '18 1:03:40 PM karstovich2
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* Britain's Edward VIII abdicated in 1936, less than a year into his reign. He was determined to marry American divorcée Wallis Simpson and keep the throne. Not only did divorce carry great stigma at the time, but the King was supposed to be the head of the Church of England, who taught that marrying after divorce was wrong if the divorced partner was still alive.[[note]]Bear in mind that neither of the two previous divorced English kings remarried while their divorced queens were still alive. UsefulNotes/HenryVIII beheaded Anne Boleyn after divorcing her so he could marry Jane Seymour, and his marriage to Anne of Cleves was never consummated and thus annulled rather than divorced. Later [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfHanover George I]] never remarried after divorcing his wife, choosing instead to take mistresses. No English or British monarch since the Reformation had attempted to marry a divorcée.[[/note]] He didn't really fancy being King anyway and neither did the British public (he was known to have German sympathies). So that's OK.

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* Britain's Edward VIII abdicated in 1936, less than a year into his reign. He was determined to marry American divorcée Wallis Simpson and keep the throne. Not only did divorce carry great stigma at the time, but the King was supposed to be the head of the Church of England, who taught that marrying after divorce was wrong if the divorced partner was still alive.[[note]]Bear in mind that neither of the two previous divorced English kings remarried while their divorced queens were still alive. UsefulNotes/HenryVIII beheaded Anne Boleyn after divorcing her so he could marry Jane Seymour, and his marriage to Anne of Cleves was never consummated and thus annulled rather than divorced. Later Later, [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfHanover George I]] (who had divorced his wife Sophia Dorothea sixteen years before inheriting the throne) never remarried after divorcing his wife, the divorce, choosing instead to take mistresses. No English or British monarch since the Reformation had attempted to marry a divorcée.[[/note]] He didn't really fancy being King anyway and neither did the British public (he was known to have German sympathies). So that's OK.
15th Apr '18 12:59:18 PM karstovich2
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* Britain's Edward VIII abdicated in 1936, less than a year into his reign. He was determined to marry American divorcée Wallis Simpson and keep the throne. Not only did divorce carry great stigma at the time, but the King was supposed to be the head of the Church of England, who taught that marrying after divorce was wrong if the divorced partner was still alive.[[note]]Bear in mind that the two previous divorced English kings did not remarry while their divorced queens were still alive: UsefulNotes/HenryVIII beheaded Anne Boleyn after divorcing her so he could marry Jane Seymour, and his marriage to Anne of Cleves was never consummated and thus annulled rather than divorced; later George I never remarried after divorcing his wife, choosing instead to take mistresses. No English or British monarch since the Reformation had attempted to marry a divorcée.[[/note]] He didn't really fancy being King anyway and neither did the British public (he was known to have German sympathies). So that's OK.

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* Britain's Edward VIII abdicated in 1936, less than a year into his reign. He was determined to marry American divorcée Wallis Simpson and keep the throne. Not only did divorce carry great stigma at the time, but the King was supposed to be the head of the Church of England, who taught that marrying after divorce was wrong if the divorced partner was still alive.[[note]]Bear in mind that neither of the two previous divorced English kings did not remarry remarried while their divorced queens were still alive: alive. UsefulNotes/HenryVIII beheaded Anne Boleyn after divorcing her so he could marry Jane Seymour, and his marriage to Anne of Cleves was never consummated and thus annulled rather than divorced; later divorced. Later [[UsefulNotes/TheHouseOfHanover George I I]] never remarried after divorcing his wife, choosing instead to take mistresses. No English or British monarch since the Reformation had attempted to marry a divorcée.[[/note]] He didn't really fancy being King anyway and neither did the British public (he was known to have German sympathies). So that's OK.
15th Apr '18 12:57:10 PM karstovich2
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* Britain's Edward VIII abdicated in 1936, less than a year into his reign. He was determined to marry American divorcée Wallis Simpson and keep the throne. Not only did divorce carry great stigma at the time, but the King was supposed to be the head of the Church of England, who taught that marrying after divorce was wrong if the divorced partner was still alive.[[note]]Bear in mind that the two previous divorced English kings did not remarry while their divorced queens were still alive: UsefulNotes/HenryVIII beheaded Anne Boleyn after divorcing her so he could marry Catherine Howard, and his marriage to Anne of Cleves was never consummated and thus annulled rather than divorced; later George I never remarried after divorcing his wife, choosing instead to take mistresses. No English or British monarch since the Reformation had attempted to marry a divorcée.[[/note]] He didn't really fancy being King anyway and neither did the British public (he was known to have German sympathies). So that's OK.

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* Britain's Edward VIII abdicated in 1936, less than a year into his reign. He was determined to marry American divorcée Wallis Simpson and keep the throne. Not only did divorce carry great stigma at the time, but the King was supposed to be the head of the Church of England, who taught that marrying after divorce was wrong if the divorced partner was still alive.[[note]]Bear in mind that the two previous divorced English kings did not remarry while their divorced queens were still alive: UsefulNotes/HenryVIII beheaded Anne Boleyn after divorcing her so he could marry Catherine Howard, Jane Seymour, and his marriage to Anne of Cleves was never consummated and thus annulled rather than divorced; later George I never remarried after divorcing his wife, choosing instead to take mistresses. No English or British monarch since the Reformation had attempted to marry a divorcée.[[/note]] He didn't really fancy being King anyway and neither did the British public (he was known to have German sympathies). So that's OK.
15th Apr '18 12:55:42 PM karstovich2
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* Britain's Edward VIII abdicated in 1936, less than a year into his reign. He was determined to marry American divorcée Wallis Simpson and keep the throne. Not only did divorce carry great stigma at the time, but the King was supposed to be the head of the Church of England, who taught that marrying after divorce was wrong if the divorced partner was still alive. He didn't really fancy being King anyway and neither did the British public (he was known to have German sympathies). So that's OK.

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* Britain's Edward VIII abdicated in 1936, less than a year into his reign. He was determined to marry American divorcée Wallis Simpson and keep the throne. Not only did divorce carry great stigma at the time, but the King was supposed to be the head of the Church of England, who taught that marrying after divorce was wrong if the divorced partner was still alive. [[note]]Bear in mind that the two previous divorced English kings did not remarry while their divorced queens were still alive: UsefulNotes/HenryVIII beheaded Anne Boleyn after divorcing her so he could marry Catherine Howard, and his marriage to Anne of Cleves was never consummated and thus annulled rather than divorced; later George I never remarried after divorcing his wife, choosing instead to take mistresses. No English or British monarch since the Reformation had attempted to marry a divorcée.[[/note]] He didn't really fancy being King anyway and neither did the British public (he was known to have German sympathies). So that's OK.
18th Feb '18 2:31:12 PM Metz77
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* Edward VIII's real-life abdication of the throne of the United Kingdom underpins an episode of season 2 of Series/TheCrown.

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* Edward VIII's real-life abdication of the throne of the United Kingdom underpins an episode of season 2 of Series/TheCrown.[[Series/TheCrown The Crown]].
18th Feb '18 2:25:41 PM Metz77
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* Edward VIII's real-life abdication of the throne of the United Kingdom underpins an episode of season 2 of TheCrown.

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* Edward VIII's real-life abdication of the throne of the United Kingdom underpins an episode of season 2 of TheCrown.Series/TheCrown.
18th Feb '18 2:24:12 PM Metz77
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* Edward VIII's real-life abdication of the throne of the United Kingdom underpins an episode of season 2 of TheCrown.
24th Dec '17 7:43:53 AM Discar
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--->[spoiler: '''Queen Elizabeth''' (to her assembled cabinet): Why do you think you're all here?]]

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