History Main / AMillionIsAStatistic

11th Feb '16 11:48:43 PM DarkHunter
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** Taken UpToEleven in ''VideoGame/GalacticCivilizations''. Planetary invasions involve millions of troops ''per battle'', and every single attempt at invading a planet is noted to cause the death of billions of people. Your population is so large that it is counted in billions as a base unit, and the game notes that that's only the taxpaying population, and there are many, many more that the census skips over.
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** Taken UpToEleven in ''VideoGame/GalacticCivilizations''. Planetary invasions involve tens of millions of troops troops, on each side, ''per battle'', and every single attempt at invading a planet is noted to cause the death of billions of people. Your population is so large that it is counted in billions as a base unit, and the game notes that that's only the taxpaying population, and there are many, many more that the census skips over.
11th Feb '16 11:47:24 PM DarkHunter
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** Taken UpToEleven in ''VideoGame/GalacticCivilizations''. Planetary invasions involve millions of troops ''per battle'', and every single attempt at invading a planet is noted to cause the death of billions of people. Your population is so large that it is counted in billions as a base unit, and the game notes that that's only the taxpaying population, and there are many, many more that the census skips over.
31st Jan '16 6:30:22 PM GrammarNavi
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* TadWilliams understands the power of this trope. In his ''Literature/MemorySorrowAndThorn'' series, Pryrates' first act of evil is to [[KickTheDog murder a small dog]].
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* TadWilliams Creator/TadWilliams understands the power of this trope. In his ''Literature/MemorySorrowAndThorn'' series, Pryrates' first act of evil is to [[KickTheDog murder a small dog]].
22nd Jan '16 3:41:25 PM intastiel
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** [[spoiler: Meenah, the bratty pre-scratch troll who would become the post-scratch Empress/Betty Crocker]] is ''paralyzed with joy'' that she became the master/murderer of ''trillions'' instead of the ''[[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility noblesse oblige]]'' ruler she would have been forced to be.
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** [[spoiler: Meenah, the bratty pre-scratch troll who would become the post-scratch Empress/Betty Crocker]] is ''paralyzed with joy'' that she became an alternate-universe version of her becomes the master/murderer of ''trillions'' instead of the ''[[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility noblesse oblige]]'' ruler she would have been forced to be.be. The only thing that sours her on the prospect is that her alternate also exploits and tortures the alternate of one of her friends.

* In Webcomic/{{Freefall}}, [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2200/fc02161.htm Florence worries that her entire product line will be canceled if she acts]] -- which is to say that her species will go extinct -- but [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2200/fc02162.htm concludes that 450 million robots take precedence over 14 Bowman's Wolves.]]
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* In Webcomic/{{Freefall}}, Averted in Webcomic/{{Freefall}}: [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2200/fc02161.htm Florence worries that her entire product line will be canceled if she acts]] -- which is to say that her species will go extinct -- but [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2200/fc02162.htm concludes that 450 million robots take precedence over 14 Bowman's Wolves.]]
20th Jan '16 11:31:13 AM Doug86
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* ''King Of Braves Anime/GaoGaiGar'' averts this by having the Gutsy Geoid (later Galaxy) Guard develop new tools to protect the human populace. One of those tools, Dividing Driver, was designed because they realized that a Protect Shade against projectiles in a crowded area was a ''bad idea''
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* ''King Of Braves Anime/GaoGaiGar'' averts this by having the Gutsy Geoid (later Galaxy) Guard develop new tools to protect the human populace. One of those tools, Dividing Driver, was designed because they realized that a Protect Shade against projectiles in a crowded area was a ''bad idea''idea''.

* CaptainAmerica had a story in which the villain was planning to unleash a weaponised virus to kill millions in revenge for his murdered wife. When the horrified Cap points out the hypocrisy, the villain callously responds with this trope's title.
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* CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica had a story in which the villain was planning to unleash a weaponised virus to kill millions in revenge for his murdered wife. When the horrified Cap points out the hypocrisy, the villain callously responds with this trope's title.

* In ''[[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins Origins]]'', a ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]''[=/=]''[=Halo=]'']] MassiveMultiplayerCrossover, this is played straight as a superlaser. Sarah kills anywhere from millions to hundreds of millions (WritersCannotDoMath combined with inexact canon regarding the population of the galaxy in question) to [[spoiler:stop the Flood]]. When she [[HeelFaceTurn team up with the heroes]] they angst a bit but decide the [[GodzillaThreshold stakes are too high]] and accept her help, despite going nuts on smaller displays of wanton destruction (Shepard, Torgue/Maliwan).
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* In ''[[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins Origins]]'', a ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]''[=/=]''[=Halo=]'']] ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]''[=/=]''[=Halo=]'']] MassiveMultiplayerCrossover, this is played straight as a superlaser. Sarah kills anywhere from millions to hundreds of millions (WritersCannotDoMath combined with inexact canon regarding the population of the galaxy in question) to [[spoiler:stop the Flood]]. When she [[HeelFaceTurn team up with the heroes]] they angst a bit but decide the [[GodzillaThreshold stakes are too high]] and accept her help, despite going nuts on smaller displays of wanton destruction (Shepard, Torgue/Maliwan).

* Parodied in ''[[DrStrangelove Dr. Strangelove (or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb)]]''. Turgidson assures the president that "it's not like we're not going to get our hair mussed" but if they act quickly with a decisive nuclear strike then there might be "ten...twenty million casualties. Tops!!" The president responds that he doesn't want to go down in history as the greatest mass murderer since UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler. Turgidson respectfully chides him for "caring more about his image in the history books than his people."
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* Parodied in ''[[DrStrangelove ''[[Film/DrStrangelove Dr. Strangelove (or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb)]]''. Turgidson assures the president that "it's not like we're not going to get our hair mussed" but if they act quickly with a decisive nuclear strike then there might be "ten...twenty million casualties. Tops!!" The president responds that he doesn't want to go down in history as the greatest mass murderer since UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler. Turgidson respectfully chides him for "caring more about his image in the history books than his people."

* In Literature/ASymphonyOfEternity we have the Volunian war in which millions of soldiers have died have died and before that there was the war for what in now [[OccupiersOutOfOurCountry The Occupied Teritories]] where hundreds of millions died in the war, the real kicker? Both are considered TERTIARY fronts and MINOR AND BRIEF conflicts.
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* In Literature/ASymphonyOfEternity ''Literature/ASymphonyOfEternity'' we have the Volunian war in which millions of soldiers have died have died and before that there was the war for what in now [[OccupiersOutOfOurCountry The Occupied Teritories]] where hundreds of millions died in the war, the real kicker? Both are considered TERTIARY fronts and MINOR AND BRIEF conflicts.

* Deconstructed and averted purposefully by Literature/TheRedBadgeOfCourage. It is said to be the first [[WarIsHell war story]] that did not focus at all on large-scale movements.
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* Deconstructed and averted purposefully by Literature/TheRedBadgeOfCourage.''Literature/TheRedBadgeOfCourage''. It is said to be the first [[WarIsHell war story]] that did not focus at all on large-scale movements.

-->Without individuals we see only numbers: a thousand dead, a hundred thousand dead, "casualties may rise to a million." With individual stories, the statistics become people — but even that is a lie, for the people continue to suffer in numbers that themselves are numbing and meaningless. Look, see the child’s swollen, swollen belly, and the flies that crawl at the corners of his eyes, his skeletal limbs: will it make it easier for you to know his name, his age, his dreams, his fears? To see him from the inside? And if it does, are we not doing a disservice to his sister, who lies in the searing dust beside him, a distorted, distended caricature of a human child? And there, if we feel for them, are they now more important to us than a thousand other children touched by the same famine, a thousand other young lives who will soon be food for the flies’ own myriad squirming children?
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-->Without individuals we see only numbers: a thousand dead, a hundred thousand dead, "casualties may rise to a million." With individual stories, the statistics become people — but even that is a lie, for the people continue to suffer in numbers that themselves are numbing and meaningless. Look, see the child’s child's swollen, swollen belly, and the flies that crawl at the corners of his eyes, his skeletal limbs: will it make it easier for you to know his name, his age, his dreams, his fears? To see him from the inside? And if it does, are we not doing a disservice to his sister, who lies in the searing dust beside him, a distorted, distended caricature of a human child? And there, if we feel for them, are they now more important to us than a thousand other children touched by the same famine, a thousand other young lives who will soon be food for the flies’ flies' own myriad squirming children?

* TadWilliams understands the power of this trope. In his ''MemorySorrowAndThorn'' series, Pryrates' first act of evil is to [[KickTheDog murder a small dog]].
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* TadWilliams understands the power of this trope. In his ''MemorySorrowAndThorn'' ''Literature/MemorySorrowAndThorn'' series, Pryrates' first act of evil is to [[KickTheDog murder a small dog]].

** The roofer in ''{{Clerks}}'' parodies this whole theory.
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** The roofer in ''{{Clerks}}'' ''Film/{{Clerks}}'' parodies this whole theory.

** ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'': The episode "[[http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Survivors The Survivors]]" calls on this trope. A god-like being settles down with a human wife and becomes a pacifist - but then a hostile race attacks their planet, and the being's wife is killed defending the planet. This angers the being into destroying the hostile race - the entire race of fifty billion. This is where Picard finds him, alone on the blighted planet with a simulacrum of his wife.
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** ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'': The episode "[[http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Survivors "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E3TheSurvivors The Survivors]]" calls on this trope. A god-like being settles down with a human wife and becomes a pacifist - but then a hostile race attacks their planet, and the being's wife is killed defending the planet. This angers the being into destroying the hostile race - the entire race of fifty billion. This is where Picard finds him, alone on the blighted planet with a simulacrum of his wife.

* Regular ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' has it's own examples. Skaven live by this rule, expecting thousands of their kind to die at a time on the battlefield. Greenskins such as Orcs and Gobblins also tend to do this as they come in mass. Killing dozens of either probably won't affect the game too much. However Dwarves and Warriors of Chaos have very high stats and very good armor and weapons so they can take a punch and punt you across town, though they cost more. Killing a good number of a horde army such as Skaven or Orcs and Goblins, while killing a unit or two of Warriors of Chaos, Dwarves, High Elves, and Bretonnia, is a small victory. * TabletopGame/BattleTech invokes and subverts this. Several sourcebooks list horrible events in the game's back story, some involving entire ''planets'' being razed. It's implied with the [[DeathFromAbove orbital bombardment]] from warships. While the InnerSphere has Warships as LostTechnology when the Clans arrived, the Clans have several. The Smoke Jaguar Clan [[DisproportionateRetribution bombed a planet]] after Prince Hohiro Kurita escaped. The Clan council banned orbital bombardment as ''dishonorable'' as the backlash unites the InnerSphere. One Jade Falcon warship captures a world by threatening to hit it from orbit, hoping no one will call their bluff.
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* Regular ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' has it's its own examples. Skaven live by this rule, expecting thousands of their kind to die at a time on the battlefield. Greenskins such as Orcs and Gobblins also tend to do this as they come in mass. Killing dozens of either probably won't affect the game too much. However Dwarves and Warriors of Chaos have very high stats and very good armor and weapons so they can take a punch and punt you across town, though they cost more. Killing a good number of a horde army such as Skaven or Orcs and Goblins, while killing a unit or two of Warriors of Chaos, Dwarves, High Elves, and Bretonnia, is a small victory. * TabletopGame/BattleTech invokes and subverts this. Several sourcebooks list horrible events in the game's back story, some involving entire ''planets'' being razed. It's implied with the [[DeathFromAbove orbital bombardment]] from warships. While the InnerSphere [=InnerSphere=] has Warships as LostTechnology when the Clans arrived, the Clans have several. The Smoke Jaguar Clan [[DisproportionateRetribution bombed a planet]] after Prince Hohiro Kurita escaped. The Clan council banned orbital bombardment as ''dishonorable'' as the backlash unites the InnerSphere.[=InnerSphere=]. One Jade Falcon warship captures a world by threatening to hit it from orbit, hoping no one will call their bluff.

* ''{{Risk}}''. Granted, you're just rolling dice and moving pieces of plastic around. You never stop to consider how many Green soldiers you would be sending to their deaths just to seize Kamchatka from the Blue Army. The game really only ends when all but one of the armies has been annihilated.
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* ''{{Risk}}''.''TabletopGame/{{Risk}}''. Granted, you're just rolling dice and moving pieces of plastic around. You never stop to consider how many Green soldiers you would be sending to their deaths just to seize Kamchatka from the Blue Army. The game really only ends when all but one of the armies has been annihilated.

* In any ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' campaign that features the Outer Planes (such as ''{{Planescape}}'') it is common knowledge that even a small battle in the Blood War is at least a hundred times bigger than any fought among mortals, and casualties can often amount to millions on ''both'' sides. This becomes even remarkable when you consider that neither side has made any progress towards winning the conflict since it started eons ago. While it's hard to feel sorry for fiends, the thought of incredible loss of life that the war causes can often make one pause.
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* In any ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' campaign that features the Outer Planes (such as ''{{Planescape}}'') ''TabletopGame/{{Planescape}}'') it is common knowledge that even a small battle in the Blood War is at least a hundred times bigger than any fought among mortals, and casualties can often amount to millions on ''both'' sides. This becomes even remarkable when you consider that neither side has made any progress towards winning the conflict since it started eons ago. While it's hard to feel sorry for fiends, the thought of incredible loss of life that the war causes can often make one pause.

* In the ''{{Eberron}}'' setting for D&D, Cyre (aka the Mournland) gets varying levels of this trope depending on where one lived before the end of the Last War, as do the casualties of the War itself. Most of Cyre's neighbors are perfectly willing to ignore the nation's death (except when they're being paranoid about the cause of the Day of Mourning and its possible repetition) and the loss of life of every soldier and civilian in the nation, mostly because everyone's so exhausted by war. Many Cyrans strive to make sure Cyre isn't forgotten and that others remember everyone who died was a person with loved ones, while visiting the Mournland is quite the pointed reminder: nothing rots in the Mournland, so every corpse is there in perfect condition.
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* In the ''{{Eberron}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}'' setting for D&D, Cyre (aka the Mournland) gets varying levels of this trope depending on where one lived before the end of the Last War, as do the casualties of the War itself. Most of Cyre's neighbors are perfectly willing to ignore the nation's death (except when they're being paranoid about the cause of the Day of Mourning and its possible repetition) and the loss of life of every soldier and civilian in the nation, mostly because everyone's so exhausted by war. Many Cyrans strive to make sure Cyre isn't forgotten and that others remember everyone who died was a person with loved ones, while visiting the Mournland is quite the pointed reminder: nothing rots in the Mournland, so every corpse is there in perfect condition.

* Both played straight and averted in ''{{Webcomic/Erfworld}}''. "Lord Hamster" wins a siege by [[spoiler:setting off the volcanic caldera under the city, wiping out almost everyone from ''both'' sides. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone He's pissed that he had to resort to that to survive]]. He's ''equally'' pissed that he had to sacrifice his loyal servant shortly beforehand.]]
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* Both played straight and averted in ''{{Webcomic/Erfworld}}''.''Webcomic/{{Erfworld}}''. "Lord Hamster" wins a siege by [[spoiler:setting off the volcanic caldera under the city, wiping out almost everyone from ''both'' sides. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone He's pissed that he had to resort to that to survive]]. He's ''equally'' pissed that he had to sacrifice his loyal servant shortly beforehand.]]

* [[http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=28&Itemid=45&limitstart=136 This]] entry on ''Superdickery''.
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* [[http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=28&Itemid=45&limitstart=136 [[http://www.superdickery.com/i-want-to-wreck-the-world/ This]] entry on ''Superdickery''.

* A joke (with many variants) goes something like this: two national leaders (let's say, the top political guy and the top military guy) are sitting in a diner, planning a war. They decide to kill a million of citizens, and a completely unrelated bicycle repairman/pizza delivery driver/clown. They pitch this idea to a random bystander who is shocked to hear that they would go out of their way to kill the unrelated civilian. One leader turns to the other and says, "see, I told you no one would care about killing the million enemy citizens."
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* A joke (with many variants) goes something like this: two national leaders (let's say, the top political guy and the top military guy) are sitting in a diner, planning a war. They decide to kill a million of citizens, and a completely unrelated bicycle repairman/pizza delivery driver/clown. They pitch this idea to a random bystander who is shocked to hear that they would go out of their way to kill the unrelated civilian. One leader turns to the other and says, "see, I told you no one would care about killing the million enemy citizens."
16th Jan '16 8:11:49 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''StarRuler''. Massive ships can have a crew in the tens of thousands or ''more'', but are thrown into unwinnable combat by the player and AI. Planetary invasions consist of butchering the entire population via orbital bombardment.
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* ''StarRuler''.''Videogame/StarRuler''. Massive ships can have a crew in the tens of thousands or ''more'', but are thrown into unwinnable combat by the player and AI. Planetary invasions consist of butchering the entire population via orbital bombardment.
14th Jan '16 5:37:55 PM Gamermaster
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** Robin tells the crew That the buster call is essentially just removing an island from the world map, and people aren't visible on such a map.
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** Robin tells the crew That that the buster call Buster Call is essentially just removing an island from the world map, and people aren't visible on such a map.
6th Jan '16 6:55:16 AM Willbyr
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* Invoked in OnePiece by Nico Robin, who states that anyone willing to issue and carry out a Buster Call (a coordinated, take-no-prisoners Marine attack powerful enough [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill to reduce an entire island to ashes]]) is so detached that they can't truly comprehend the sheer amount of death and destruction it causes. Especially [[SmugSnake Spandam]], who flaunts the authority he was given to issue one every chance he gets)
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* Invoked in OnePiece ''Manga/OnePiece'' by Nico Robin, who states that anyone willing to issue and carry out a Buster Call (a coordinated, take-no-prisoners Marine attack powerful enough [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill to reduce an entire island to ashes]]) is so detached that they can't truly comprehend the sheer amount of death and destruction it causes. Especially [[SmugSnake Spandam]], who flaunts the authority he was given to issue one every chance he gets)
5th Jan '16 1:39:02 PM Willbyr
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* In ''{{Ever 17}}'' the disaster that destroys the park the first time also releases TB, which is such a nasty deadly killer that despite high communicability still only manages to kill about 10000 people. But nobody cares that it's very likely [[spoiler:the characters rescued]] are just as likely to have let the plague free as the scientist who ran away or even that all the people died. Instead, [[spoiler:the whole gambit is around saving two characters who would have died otherwise]]. The best you get is [[spoiler:Lieblich finally gets uncovered, showing that at least the ''rest'' of the world cared about the plague.]]
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* In ''{{Ever 17}}'' ''VisualNovel/{{Ever17}}'' the disaster that destroys the park the first time also releases TB, which is such a nasty deadly killer that despite high communicability still only manages to kill about 10000 people. But nobody cares that it's very likely [[spoiler:the characters rescued]] are just as likely to have let the plague free as the scientist who ran away or even that all the people died. Instead, [[spoiler:the whole gambit is around saving two characters who would have died otherwise]]. The best you get is [[spoiler:Lieblich finally gets uncovered, showing that at least the ''rest'' of the world cared about the plague.]]
2nd Jan '16 11:45:23 AM nombretomado
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* The ending of SonicAdventure, where Tails happily declares that "alls well that ends well, right?" This is despite the fact that the city is utterly destroyed, at least half the population is dead, and Eggman gets away...[[KarmaHoudini again!]]
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* The ending of SonicAdventure, ''VideoGame/SonicAdventure'', where Tails happily declares that "alls well that ends well, right?" This is despite the fact that the city is utterly destroyed, at least half the population is dead, and Eggman gets away...[[KarmaHoudini again!]]
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