History Main / ALighterShadeOfGrey

12th Mar '17 1:35:51 PM philfredobob
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* King Folstet in ''Franchise/TheWitcher'' is regarded as a arrogant, sister-humping warmonger, but he ends up being one of the least morally-repugnant leaders in the series as well as the most moral monarchs compared to others such as King Helsent of Kaedwin who is [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Fantasy Josef Stalin]], as well as King Radovid of Temeria and Emperor Emhyr var Emreis, both of whom are practically [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adolf Hitler stand-ins]], performing cleansing against undesirables (in this case magic users) and the latter going on in expansionist campaigns against other kingdoms that are generally regarded as inferiors.

to:

* King Folstet Foltest in ''Franchise/TheWitcher'' is regarded as a arrogant, sister-humping warmonger, but he ends up being one of the least morally-repugnant leaders in the series as well as the most moral monarchs compared to others such as King Helsent Henselt of Kaedwin who is [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Fantasy Josef Stalin]], as well as King Radovid of Temeria and Emperor Emhyr var Emreis, both of whom are practically [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adolf Hitler stand-ins]], performing cleansing against undesirables (in this case magic users) and the latter going on in expansionist campaigns against other kingdoms that are generally regarded as inferiors.
12th Feb '17 9:30:37 AM gb00393
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Despite the series' overwhelming BlackAndGrayMorality, characters like the Starks, Tyrion Lannister, and Daenerys Targaryen are portrayed sympathetically despite their more heinous actions.
20th Dec '16 8:13:32 PM Jay_Jay96
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*** What's strange about Lelouch and Suzaku's morality throughout the show is that while Lelouch does more dog-kicking, [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he generally feels bad about it.]] Suzaku, on the other hand, [[NeverMyFault always passes the blame onto someone else.]]
5th Nov '16 10:59:03 AM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''IlivaisX'' inverts the usual here: Iriana may have been horribly broken by the Aztec Empire, but her goal isn't REALLY to end the war and create a free society, it's to get revenge. Meanwhile, both empires have been at war with each other for centuries, but they're mostly not bad people, and they've maintained a society that works very nicely for the people in all that time.

to:

* ''IlivaisX'' ''Literature/IlivaisX'' inverts the usual here: Iriana may have been horribly broken by the Aztec Empire, but her goal isn't REALLY to end the war and create a free society, it's to get revenge. Meanwhile, both empires have been at war with each other for centuries, but they're mostly not bad people, and they've maintained a society that works very nicely for the people in all that time.
5th Nov '16 7:31:42 AM MGD107
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* From ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}'', Merlin is a Type III AntiHero and Morgana is a WellIntentionedExtremist with ''very'' good reasons to want all of Camelot dead. Merlin has done nearly all the things Morgana has done, but he mostly does them reluctantly and Morgana often looks for an excuse to do them. Again, it's justified by her backstory [[note]] Look at BecameTheirOwnAntithesis for it[[/note]] but Merlin's still more sympathetic.
16th Oct '16 9:42:06 AM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In ''FinalFantasyTactics'', one side of the Lion War rallies behind Prince Goltana, the other behind Prince Larg, the church has got its fingers in the conflict, [[spoiler: not to mention the Lucavi,]] and then there's your player group. Out of the two main sides involved in the war, those siding with Prince Larg come out looking more like good guys, in general, by virtue of not having [[MagnificentBastard Delita]] on their side. Out of all groups, though, the player's party comes out looking like the best good guys of all, but whether that's due to the main character's [[UnwittingPawn being played]] or being honestly virtuous is a matter of debate.

to:

* In ''FinalFantasyTactics'', ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'', one side of the Lion War rallies behind Prince Goltana, the other behind Prince Larg, the church has got its fingers in the conflict, [[spoiler: not to mention the Lucavi,]] and then there's your player group. Out of the two main sides involved in the war, those siding with Prince Larg come out looking more like good guys, in general, by virtue of not having [[MagnificentBastard Delita]] on their side. Out of all groups, though, the player's party comes out looking like the best good guys of all, but whether that's due to the main character's [[UnwittingPawn being played]] or being honestly virtuous is a matter of debate.
10th Sep '16 4:13:56 PM TheNerevarine
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* The Five in ''{{ComicBook/Birthright}}'' are a ragtag group of mages from another dimension that are sworn to defend Earth from an extremely powerful entity that has taken control of their home. With that said, their members range from being selfish that are OnlyInItForTheMoney to [[KnightTemplar Knight Templars]] that have no problem murdering innocents, and as a whole, the group is largely indifferent to collateral damage so long its to stop their enemy from invading Earth although, in order for him to do this, he has to kill each of the Five who serve as [[BarrierMaiden living barriers]]. It speaks volumes that the nicest member of the group is treated as a deadbeat parent to their family.


Added DiffLines:

* King Folstet in ''Franchise/TheWitcher'' is regarded as a arrogant, sister-humping warmonger, but he ends up being one of the least morally-repugnant leaders in the series as well as the most moral monarchs compared to others such as King Helsent of Kaedwin who is [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Fantasy Josef Stalin]], as well as King Radovid of Temeria and Emperor Emhyr var Emreis, both of whom are practically [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Adolf Hitler stand-ins]], performing cleansing against undesirables (in this case magic users) and the latter going on in expansionist campaigns against other kingdoms that are generally regarded as inferiors.
21st Aug '16 2:24:22 AM ElectroKraken
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* '''VideoGame/{{Madworld}}''. Jack, by his own words kills people rather than helping them and participates in a snuff competition, Death Watch. [[spoiler: Leo's Dad]] organized Death Watch [[spoiler: as a cover to show off his virus which, in the context of Death Watch all it did was clear out most of the innocent bystanders, cleanly overshadowed by THE FUCKING DEATH WATCH.]] And [[spoiler: Leo]] is even worse, who helped with the plan ForTheEvulz. So naturally Jack kills them all with relish.

to:

* '''VideoGame/{{Madworld}}''.''VideoGame/{{Madworld}}''. Jack, by his own words kills people rather than helping them and participates in a snuff competition, Death Watch. [[spoiler: Leo's Dad]] organized Death Watch [[spoiler: as a cover to show off his virus which, in the context of Death Watch all it did was clear out most of the innocent bystanders, cleanly overshadowed by THE FUCKING DEATH WATCH.]] And [[spoiler: Leo]] is even worse, who helped with the plan ForTheEvulz. So naturally Jack kills them all with relish.
29th Jun '16 11:05:26 AM JamesAustin
Is there an issue? Send a Message


-> "Most humans are grey. And our job is to chastise the darker grey, correct?"
--> -- ''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'', chapter 39 page 19.

to:

-> "Most ->''"Most humans are grey. And our job is to chastise the darker grey, correct?"
--> -- ''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'',
correct?"''
-->--''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'',
chapter 39 page 19.
17th May '16 3:24:28 AM Doug86
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' and its TV adaptation ''GameOfThrones'', House Stark is basically a mixture of decent-if-naive and normal-if-cynical people, though (by virtue of kicking their ass in a war a while back) unfortunately have [[TokenEvilTeammate House Bolton]] fighting for their side, who are a bunch of power-hungry sadists. Their arch-enemies House Lannister, however, while having somewhat decent-if-cynical-and-manipulative people like Tyrion (and, possibly, Jaime, though he has done some really bad stuff), or Cersei's innocent younger children, are generally a bunch of ruthless, backstabbing, power hungry assholes who are willing to put TheCaligula on the throne if [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans that is what keeps them in power]], and employ evil psychopaths like Gregor Clegane without batting an eye. And while Tywin, the head of the House, may be [[PragmaticVillainy pragmatic]] enough to know how to run the economy properly and keep the peasants happy and well-fed, he is still a monumental {{Jerkass}} who has entire families butchered and treats his children like dirt.

to:

* In ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' and its TV adaptation ''GameOfThrones'', ''Series/GameOfThrones'', House Stark is basically a mixture of decent-if-naive and normal-if-cynical people, though (by virtue of kicking their ass in a war a while back) unfortunately have [[TokenEvilTeammate House Bolton]] fighting for their side, who are a bunch of power-hungry sadists. Their arch-enemies House Lannister, however, while having somewhat decent-if-cynical-and-manipulative people like Tyrion (and, possibly, Jaime, though he has done some really bad stuff), or Cersei's innocent younger children, are generally a bunch of ruthless, backstabbing, power hungry assholes who are willing to put TheCaligula on the throne if [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans that is what keeps them in power]], and employ evil psychopaths like Gregor Clegane without batting an eye. And while Tywin, the head of the House, may be [[PragmaticVillainy pragmatic]] enough to know how to run the economy properly and keep the peasants happy and well-fed, he is still a monumental {{Jerkass}} who has entire families butchered and treats his children like dirt.
This list shows the last 10 events of 198. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.ALighterShadeOfGrey