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21st Nov '17 6:39:41 PM Discar
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** Related to ''Stormlight'' several of the characters have asked Wit if he is a Herald. He's not, and he's not a god either, but he is far older and far more powerful than pretty much anyone in the Cosmere besides the [[OurGodsAreDifferent Shards]] themselves.

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** Related to ''Stormlight'' ''Stormlight'', several of the characters have asked Wit if he is a Herald. He's not, and he's not a god either, but he is far older and far more powerful than pretty much anyone in the Cosmere besides the [[OurGodsAreDifferent Shards]] themselves.
21st Nov '17 6:39:01 PM Discar
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* Lightsong from ''Literature/{{Warbreaker}}'' is a Returned, a person who died and got raised from the dead by some unknown force, the Returned are worshiped as gods by people in the country of Hallandren, where the story takes place, but Lightsong doesn't see things that way. [[spoiler: (Until the end of the story, at least, when he discovers the truth about himself.)]]
* Also from Creator/BrandonSanderson, in ''Literature/TheAlloyOfLaw'', part of Harmony's sacred book that sets forth his religion is an explicit prohibition against actually worshiping Harmony. Of course, if you've read the [[Literature/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy original Mistborn trilogy]], you'll know that this is because [[spoiler: Harmony is Sazed.]]
** [[ZigZaggingTrope On the other hand,]] Harmony's sacred book also requires believers to meditate regularly while wearing an earring. While this is technically not prayer, [[ItMakesSenseInContext anyone who's read The Hero of Ages will recognize this]] as an act of communion with a higher power.
** [[SubvertedTrope And on the third hand]], it is explained in the same passage that you "worship" Harmony by doing good deeds and improving the world, and traditional worship is banned in part because it is a waste of time that could be better spent.

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Lightsong from ''Literature/{{Warbreaker}}'' is a Returned, a person who died and got raised from the dead by some unknown force, the Returned are worshiped as gods by people in the country of Hallandren, where the story takes place, but Lightsong doesn't see things that way. [[spoiler: (Until the end of the story, at least, when he discovers the truth about himself.)]]
* Also from Creator/BrandonSanderson, in ''Literature/TheAlloyOfLaw'', ** In ''Literature/WaxAndWayne'', part of Harmony's sacred book that sets forth his religion is an explicit prohibition against actually worshiping Harmony. Of course, if you've read the [[Literature/MistbornTheOriginalTrilogy original Mistborn trilogy]], you'll know that this is because [[spoiler: Harmony is Sazed.]]
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]] [[ZigZaggingTrope On the other hand,]] Harmony's sacred book also requires believers to meditate regularly while wearing an earring. While this is technically not prayer, [[ItMakesSenseInContext anyone who's read The Hero of Ages will recognize this]] as an act of communion with a higher power.
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power. [[SubvertedTrope And on the third hand]], it is explained in the same passage that you "worship" Harmony by doing good deeds and improving the world, and traditional worship is banned in part because it is a waste of time that could be better spent.spent.
** ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'': The ten divine Heralds of the Almighty are often worshiped, either as God's chosen servants (which is accurate enough), or as gods themselves (which is not). Shallash, as part of her SanitySlippage, has been [[HouseOfBrokenMirrors defacing all religious artwork of herself]] in an effort to keep people from worshiping her.
** Related to ''Stormlight'' several of the characters have asked Wit if he is a Herald. He's not, and he's not a god either, but he is far older and far more powerful than pretty much anyone in the Cosmere besides the [[OurGodsAreDifferent Shards]] themselves.
--->'''Shallan:''' Are you one of them? Are you a Herald, Wit?\\
'''Wit:''' Heavens no. I'm not stupid enough to get mixed up in religion again. The last seven times I tried it were all disasters. I believe there's at least one god still worshiping me by accident.
3rd Nov '17 10:24:14 AM JusticeReaper
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** Later voiced ''to'' Barry by Jay Garrick, the Flash of Earth-3, while he's giving Barry a pep-talk on why [[RealityWarpingIsNotAToy using time-travel to fix his problems will not end well]].
--> '''Jay:''' We’re not gods, we’re men who for whatever reason have been given extraordinary abilities.
2nd Nov '17 5:57:16 PM Zaptech
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** In the lore surrounding Pelinal Whitestrake, he had a... complicated history with the Divines, being both an angelic being sent by the Divines to aid humanity while also being an incarnation of Lorkhan, who was ''the enemy'' of the Divines. As a result, calling him a god at best resulted in him punching your lights out. At worst, you'd get smothered to death in your sleep by swarms of moths.
** When he is encountered as part of the ''Clockwork City'' DLC for ''Elder Scrolls Online'', Sotha Sil will also say that he does not consider himself a god, and only takes that title because Vivec and Almalexia do so as well, and what place does he have to deny them their happiness?
14th Oct '17 9:53:43 AM ultimomant
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* In the 2005 ''Hercules'' movie, Hercules was very arrogant as a child when he was told he was Zeus' son. As an adult, he has become mature enough to be a humble hero, and tells his enemy, "We are not gods, Antaeus, only men. Only really strong men!"



* In ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' [=C3PO=] at first objects to the Ewoks worshipping him or pretending he's a god, as doing so does not fit his programming. Eventually, Luke convinces him to fib a little, and after he uses some Force powers to emulate divine might, they're able to peacefully align themselves with the tribe.

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* In ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' [=C3PO=] at first objects to the Ewoks worshipping worshiping him or pretending he's a god, as doing so does not fit his programming. Eventually, Luke convinces him to fib a little, and after he uses some Force powers to emulate divine might, they're able to peacefully align themselves with the tribe.



* ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'': When Elven Prince Finrod met the Race of Men they mistook him for one of the [[CouncilOfAngels Valar]] (they had met elves earlier, but they were not like the Light Elves). Finrod dissilusioned them as soon as he was capable to, explaining that he was not a Vala but an elf, the Valar lived beyond the Western Ocean, and [[GodOfEvil the only (ex)-Vala]] in the vicinity was ''trouble''.

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* ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'': When Elven Prince Finrod met the Race of Men they mistook him for one of the [[CouncilOfAngels Valar]] (they had met elves earlier, but they were not like the Light Elves). Finrod dissilusioned disillusioned them as soon as he was capable to, explaining that he was not a Vala but an elf, the Valar lived beyond the Western Ocean, and [[GodOfEvil the only (ex)-Vala]] in the vicinity was ''trouble''.



* Borderline example in ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'', where [[spoiler:Percy is offered godhood as thanks for saving Olympus from the Titans, but turns it down, instead asking that the Gods recognise all of their Half-Blood children.]]

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* Borderline example in ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'', where [[spoiler:Percy is offered godhood as thanks for saving Olympus from the Titans, but turns it down, instead asking that the Gods recognise recognize all of their Half-Blood children.]]



** The Tom Baker era deals heavily with this trope, particularly early on. He loves being admired and adored, but absolutely refuses to be worshipped, despite this era starting the trend of the Doctor being famous amongst monsters (see Chedaki's horrified remarks to Styggron upon knowing who they're up against in "The Android Invasion"). Several stories touch upon the idea that he's a MessianicArchetype or use similar religious symbolism, and yet his famous conflict about genocide in "Genesis of the Daleks" is based around the idea that he doesn't feel he has the right to permanently change the universe (unlike Davros, who claims he'd destroy every living thing because 'that power would set me up above the gods'). When he discovers a CargoCult that does worship him, he's appropriately horrified and dedicates himself to educating a sceptical girl from the cult in how very ungodly he is. He does switch to using a console room that resembles a church with stained-glass windows, pews and a font, but switches back once he's got some more of his god complex out of his system.

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** The Tom Baker era deals heavily with this trope, particularly early on. He loves being admired and adored, but absolutely refuses to be worshipped, worshiped, despite this era starting the trend of the Doctor being famous amongst monsters (see Chedaki's horrified remarks to Styggron upon knowing who they're up against in "The Android Invasion"). Several stories touch upon the idea that he's a MessianicArchetype or use similar religious symbolism, and yet his famous conflict about genocide in "Genesis of the Daleks" is based around the idea that he doesn't feel he has the right to permanently change the universe (unlike Davros, who claims he'd destroy every living thing because 'that power would set me up above the gods'). When he discovers a CargoCult that does worship him, he's appropriately horrified and dedicates himself to educating a sceptical girl from the cult in how very ungodly he is. He does switch to using a console room that resembles a church with stained-glass windows, pews and a font, but switches back once he's got some more of his god complex out of his system.



* In the [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Star Trek: TNG]] episode "Who Watches the Watchers", a misunderstanding leads to the Captain being mistaken for a god, called "the Picard", by primitive aliens. Their worshipful behavior deeply disturbs him and he goes to great lengths to correct it, up to and including a direct violation of the Prime Directive (which in this case has already been violated by the accidental exposure) by bringing the aliens' local leader up to the ''Enterprise'' for a guided tour. He makes a valiant attempt to explain that humans are more like {{Sufficiently Advanced Alien}}s (and far from omnipotent or perfect). The leader finally accepts it after seeing them try and fail to save the life of an injured crewman. Later, Picard was willing to have his first believer shoot him with an arrow to finally dissuade him.

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* In the [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Star Trek: TNG]] ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' episode "Who Watches the Watchers", a misunderstanding leads to the Captain being mistaken for a god, called "the Picard", by primitive aliens. Their worshipful behavior deeply disturbs him and he goes to great lengths to correct it, up to and including a direct violation of the Prime Directive (which in this case has already been violated by the accidental exposure) by bringing the aliens' local leader up to the ''Enterprise'' for a guided tour. He makes a valiant attempt to explain that humans are more like {{Sufficiently Advanced Alien}}s (and far from omnipotent or perfect). The leader finally accepts it after seeing them try and fail to save the life of an injured crewman. Later, Picard was willing to have his first believer shoot him with an arrow to finally dissuade him.


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* In ''Series/{{Hercules}}'', Hercules was very arrogant as a child when he was told he was Zeus' son. As an adult, he has become mature enough to be a humble hero, and tells his enemy, "We are not gods, Antaeus, only men. Only really strong men!"
25th Sep '17 6:40:50 PM DeisTheAlcano
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* During ComicBook/TheCloneSaga, in one encounter with Judas Traveler, ComicBook/SpiderMan goes [[BerserkButton postal]] on him and shouts that he's "not God"; Traveler quickly responds by saying that he is not. [[spoiler: As Spider-Man eventually learns, Traveler doesn't have godlike powers, or even come close; he simply has the power to alter people's perceptions so that they ''believe'' he does.]]
** Of course, Spider-Man has met the One-Above-All - the ''actual God'' of the Marvel Universe. So he would know.

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* During ComicBook/TheCloneSaga, in one encounter with Judas Traveler, ComicBook/SpiderMan goes [[BerserkButton postal]] on him and shouts that he's "not God"; Traveler quickly responds by saying that he is not. [[spoiler: As Spider-Man eventually learns, Traveler doesn't have godlike powers, or even come close; he simply has the power to alter people's perceptions so that they ''believe'' he does.]]
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]] Of course, Spider-Man has met the One-Above-All - the ''actual God'' of the Marvel Universe. So he would know.



** However, in ''The Hunger'', ComicBook/{{Darkseid}} refers to Galactus as a "star god".
24th Sep '17 9:44:46 AM R.G.
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* Discussed at the end of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', at which point Simon has gained so much Spiral Power he could certainly be considered god-like in some respects. Someone suggests Simon use his Spiral Power to [[spoiler:resurrect Nia]], but the idea is shot down because, powerful though he may be, Simon is not a god and should not go around trying to act like one. Simon insists on living a humble life as an anonymous wanderer, helping people out with their little day-to-day problems wherever he goes.

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* Discussed at the end of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', at which point Simon has gained so much Spiral Power he could certainly be considered god-like in some respects. Someone Gimmy suggests Simon use his Spiral Power to [[spoiler:resurrect Nia]], but the idea is shot down because, powerful though he may be, Simon is not a god and should not go around trying to act like one. Simon insists on living a humble life as an anonymous wanderer, helping people out with their little day-to-day problems wherever he goes.
22nd Aug '17 4:28:32 PM Samothrace42
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* In ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', while he's an InsufferableGenius EmperorScientist with the ultimate goal of seizing control of what's left of organized society, Mr. House states he has no interest in declaring himself a god or forcing people to treat him as such, wanting his position because he considers it best for humanity's prosperity and nothing more. This also puts him at odds with [[AGodAmI Caesar]], one of the other faction leaders who cultivates the image of him as a PhysicalGod.
* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout|1}}'', [[TheDragon The Lieutenant]] mentions that the [[ScamReligion Children of the Cathedral]] view him and [[BigBad the Master]] as gods. If you ask him if he believes himself to be one, he simply replies: "Of course not. We are simply the future."

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout|1}}'', [[TheDragon The Lieutenant]] mentions that the [[ScamReligion Children of]] [[PathOfInspiration the Cathedral]] view him and [[BigBad the Master]] as gods. If you ask him if he believes himself to be one, he simply replies: "Of course not. We are simply the future."
* In ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', while he's an InsufferableGenius EmperorScientist with the ultimate goal of seizing control of what's left of organized society, society in the Mojave Desert, Mr. House states he has no interest in declaring himself a god or forcing people to treat him as such, wanting his position because he considers it best for humanity's prosperity and nothing more. This also puts him at odds with [[AGodAmI Caesar]], one of the other faction leaders who cultivates the image of him as a PhysicalGod.
* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout|1}}'', [[TheDragon The Lieutenant]] mentions that a similar example to the [[ScamReligion Children above, ''VideoGame/Fallout4'' has [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething Elder]] [[NobleBigot Arthur]] [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Maxson]], who is currently in charge of the Cathedral]] view him and [[BigBad [[BadassArmy East Coast]] [[TheOrder Brotherhood of Steel]]. The incredible progress accomplished under his regime (with the Master]] as gods. If you ask him if he believes himself to be one, he simply replies: "Of course not. We are simply East Coast [=BoS=] [[TookALevelInBadass now being a serious contender]] for the future."most powerful faction in the entire North American Wasteland) has gotten to the point that he's worshiped as a god by many of the [[TheRemnant West Coast Brotherhood members]]. However, despite his [[PrinciplesZealot fanatical personality]], [[EveryoneHasStandards Maxson's very uncomfortable about that]], denying his supposed divinity while having the cults suppressed.
13th Aug '17 5:56:13 PM MissMokushiroku
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* The geth in ''Franchise/MassEffect'' worship Sovereign as a god, but Sovereign is kind of insulted by the comparison. Possibly subverted, however, considering that he's more disgusted by the Geth themselves, seeing them as nothing more than pawns.

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* The geth in ''Franchise/MassEffect'' worship Sovereign as a god, but Sovereign is kind of insulted by the comparison. Possibly subverted, however, considering that he's more comparison--he's disgusted by the Geth themselves, geth, seeing them as nothing more than pawns.



** Despite how legends portray her, and despite the fact that she, and the Divine Dragons as a whole have immense powers, Naga, the Divine Dragon [[SheIsTheKing King]] insists that she is not a god of any sort. ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' takes note of this - despite saying that she is no creator at both those who carry her bloodline and their allies, Lucina in particular protests. It also doesn't stop the fact that she's worshiped as a deity in many regions of the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight Archanean]] (now Ylissean) continent, and on the continent of Valm, her ''own daughter'' Tiki is also worshipped [[spoiler: and in another world, she ''does'' become the new Naga.]]

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** Despite how legends portray her, and despite the fact that she, and the Divine Dragons as a whole have immense powers, Naga, the Divine Dragon [[SheIsTheKing King]] insists that she is not a god of any sort. ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' takes note of this - despite this--despite Naga saying that she is no creator at both those who carry her bloodline and their allies, Lucina in particular protests. It also doesn't stop the fact that she's worshiped as a deity in many regions of the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight Archanean]] (now Ylissean) continent, and on the continent of Valm, her ''own daughter'' Tiki is also worshipped [[spoiler: and worshiped, [[spoiler:and in another world, she ''does'' become the new Naga.]]Naga]].



** In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout|1}}'', [[TheDragon The Lieutenant]] mentions that the [[ScamReligion Children of the Cathedral]] view him and [[BigBad the Master]] as gods. If you ask him if he believes himself to be one, he simply replies: "Of course not. We are simply the future."

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** * In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout|1}}'', [[TheDragon The Lieutenant]] mentions that the [[ScamReligion Children of the Cathedral]] view him and [[BigBad the Master]] as gods. If you ask him if he believes himself to be one, he simply replies: "Of course not. We are simply the future."
16th Jul '17 9:44:03 AM DrLunar
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* In ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' a Q takes this position on the Q Continuum. He contradicts the claim that his species is omnipotent, and compares it to how godlike a starship crew would seem to primitive species.
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