History MagnificentBastard / ComicBooks

5th Apr '16 11:08:28 AM Morgenthaler
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* SinCity is filled with manipulation but Dwight [=McCarthy=] is probably at the top of the heap. To give you an idea, in his first story arc, he was on the run form the cops, severely wounded, had no place to go, and had the Old Town girls ready to kick him out of the neighborhood or be killed by Miho. After about one page of dialogue, he got Miho on his side and had the Old Town girls not only giving him shelter but helping him get revenge on the BigBad.

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* SinCity ''ComicBook/SinCity'' is filled with manipulation but Dwight [=McCarthy=] is probably at the top of the heap. To give you an idea, in his first story arc, he was on the run form the cops, severely wounded, had no place to go, and had the Old Town girls ready to kick him out of the neighborhood or be killed by Miho. After about one page of dialogue, he got Miho on his side and had the Old Town girls not only giving him shelter but helping him get revenge on the BigBad.
24th Jan '16 10:54:54 AM nombretomado
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* [[{{Sub-Mariner}} Namor]], the Marvel king of Atlantis and on again off again super villain can pull this off on occasion. Like when he joined the heroic "Illuminati" of Iron Man and Mr. Fantastic, and the villainous Illuminati of Doom and Norman Osborn immediately after.

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* [[{{Sub-Mariner}} [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]], the Marvel king of Atlantis and on again off again super villain can pull this off on occasion. Like when he joined the heroic "Illuminati" of Iron Man and Mr. Fantastic, and the villainous Illuminati of Doom and Norman Osborn immediately after.
31st Dec '15 6:10:52 PM Anddrix
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* SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}}, [[MarvelComics Marvel's]] expert [[XanatosSpeedChess free-form, improv manipulator]]. Not only does this guy play the big boys in the Marvel Universe, this is a guy who regularly improvises the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt end of freaking nine worlds]] armed primarily with [[ManipulativeBastard mischief]] and [[ConsummateLiar his lying tongue]]. And he's brought about Ragnarok multiple times. How many baddies have the chops to pull that off? He also lies regularly so well that no one can tell his lies from truth. Loki almost always gets what he wants. He's one of the few beings to have made a deal with Mephisto and come out on top.

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* SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}}, Loki, [[MarvelComics Marvel's]] expert [[XanatosSpeedChess free-form, improv manipulator]]. Not only does this guy play the big boys in the Marvel Universe, this is a guy who regularly improvises the [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt end of freaking nine worlds]] armed primarily with [[ManipulativeBastard mischief]] and [[ConsummateLiar his lying tongue]]. And he's brought about Ragnarok multiple times. How many baddies have the chops to pull that off? He also lies regularly so well that no one can tell his lies from truth. Loki almost always gets what he wants. He's one of the few beings to have made a deal with Mephisto and come out on top.
29th Dec '15 8:22:19 AM Anddrix
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* SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom is a perfect example in the [[MarvelComics Marvel Universe]]. Through a lethal combination of magic, technological prowess, and manipulative brilliance he's been their definitive supervillain, and the BigBad of more crisis crossovers than can conveniently be counted. When a Norse God and the Devil both consider you a WorthyOpponent you qualify in a major way.

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* SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom Doctor Doom is a perfect example in the [[MarvelComics Marvel Universe]]. Through a lethal combination of magic, technological prowess, and manipulative brilliance he's been their definitive supervillain, and the BigBad of more crisis crossovers than can conveniently be counted. When a Norse God and the Devil both consider you a WorthyOpponent you qualify in a major way.
31st Oct '15 2:27:16 PM VVK
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Even after Menace is foiled by a convoluted scheme by Mickey and co. involving a rubber cannonball, and arrested, he shows up freely driving around in a status symbol car with a status symbol "girlfriend" included. When Mickey asks why he's not in prison, he replies that the government released him and hired him for counterespionage because he's so good.

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Even after Menace is foiled by a convoluted scheme by Mickey and co. involving a rubber cannonball, and arrested, he shows up freely driving around in a status symbol car with a status symbol "girlfriend" included. When Mickey asks why he's not in prison, he replies that the government released him and hired him for to do counterespionage because he's so good.
31st Oct '15 2:27:02 PM VVK
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Even after Menace is foiled by a convoluted scheme by Mickey and co. involving a rubber cannonball, and arrested, he shows up freely driving around in a status symbol car with a status symbol "girlfriend" included. When Mickey asks why he's not in prison, he replies that the government released him and hired him as a spy because he's so good. Judging from his previous record, he'll probably march into the target location, declare that he's a spy, and get all the information anyway.

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Even after Menace is foiled by a convoluted scheme by Mickey and co. involving a rubber cannonball, and arrested, he shows up freely driving around in a status symbol car with a status symbol "girlfriend" included. When Mickey asks why he's not in prison, he replies that the government released him and hired him as a spy for counterespionage because he's so good. Judging from his previous record, he'll probably march into the target location, declare that he's a spy, and get all the information anyway.good.
30th Oct '15 3:23:19 AM VVK
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** An old story had a villain called something like Menace.[[note]]This is a translation of his name in a Finnish translation of a probably Italian comic; who knows if he even appeared in English.[[/note]] [[GuileHero Mickey]] described him as one of the cleverest opponents he'd ever known, and he acted as a DiabolicalMastermind not by running his schemes behind the scenes but perfectly openly taking RefugeInAudacity. His antics stretch the SuspensionOfDisbelief, but if you buy it, he's certainly a Magnificent Bastard.\\

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** An old story had a villain called something like Menace.[[note]]This is a translation of his name in a Finnish translation of a probably Italian comic; who knows if he even appeared in English.[[/note]] [[GuileHero Mickey]] Mickey described him as one of the cleverest opponents he'd ever known, and he acted as a DiabolicalMastermind not by running his schemes behind the scenes but perfectly openly taking RefugeInAudacity. His antics stretch the SuspensionOfDisbelief, but if you buy it, he's certainly a Magnificent Bastard.\\
30th Oct '15 2:53:01 AM VVK
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** An old story had a villain called something like Menace.[[note]]This is a translation of his name in a Finnish translation of a probably Italian comic; who knows if he even appeared in English.[[/note]] Mickey described him as one of the cleverest opponents he'd ever known, and he acted as a DiabolicalMastermind not by running his schemes behind the scenes but perfectly openly taking RefugeInAudacity. His antics stretch the SuspensionOfDisbelief, but if you buy it, he's certainly a Magnificent Bastard.\\

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** An old story had a villain called something like Menace.[[note]]This is a translation of his name in a Finnish translation of a probably Italian comic; who knows if he even appeared in English.[[/note]] Mickey [[GuileHero Mickey]] described him as one of the cleverest opponents he'd ever known, and he acted as a DiabolicalMastermind not by running his schemes behind the scenes but perfectly openly taking RefugeInAudacity. His antics stretch the SuspensionOfDisbelief, but if you buy it, he's certainly a Magnificent Bastard.\\
30th Oct '15 2:51:37 AM VVK
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Even after Menace is foiled by a convoluted scheme by Mickey and co. involving a rubber cannonball, he shows up freely driving around in a status symbol car with a status symbol "girlfriend". When Mickey asks why he's not in prison, he replies that the government released him and hired him as a spy because he's so good. Judging from his previous record, he'll probably march into the target location, declare that he's a spy, and get all the information anyway.

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Even after Menace is foiled by a convoluted scheme by Mickey and co. involving a rubber cannonball, and arrested, he shows up freely driving around in a status symbol car with a status symbol "girlfriend"."girlfriend" included. When Mickey asks why he's not in prison, he replies that the government released him and hired him as a spy because he's so good. Judging from his previous record, he'll probably march into the target location, declare that he's a spy, and get all the information anyway.
30th Oct '15 2:48:25 AM VVK
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* Writers often try to make [[ComicBook/MickeyMouseComicUniverse The Phantom Blot]] a MagnificentBastard, and sometimes they even succeed. At his best, he [[TheChessmaster hatches truly convoluted schemes]] that have Mickey Mouse (often portrayed as little short of a GreatDetective himself in such stories) running around clueless for a long time before he even begins to figure them out; and has [[EvilIsCool a dark, threateningly cool presence]]. That said, most stories can't pull this off too well.

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* ''ComicBook/MickeyMouseComicUniverse''
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Writers often try to make [[ComicBook/MickeyMouseComicUniverse The Phantom Blot]] Blot a MagnificentBastard, and sometimes they even succeed. At his best, he [[TheChessmaster hatches truly convoluted schemes]] that have Mickey Mouse (often portrayed as little short of a GreatDetective himself in such stories) running around clueless for a long time before he even begins to figure them out; and has [[EvilIsCool a dark, threateningly cool presence]]. That said, most stories can't pull this off too well.well.
** An old story had a villain called something like Menace.[[note]]This is a translation of his name in a Finnish translation of a probably Italian comic; who knows if he even appeared in English.[[/note]] Mickey described him as one of the cleverest opponents he'd ever known, and he acted as a DiabolicalMastermind not by running his schemes behind the scenes but perfectly openly taking RefugeInAudacity. His antics stretch the SuspensionOfDisbelief, but if you buy it, he's certainly a Magnificent Bastard.\\
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The story opens with Menace's gang having stolen the entire gold reserve of whatever country this is set in. He takes the gold to his own fortress, not particularly hiding where it is, so both Mickey and other heroes and the army show up to take it back. When the army company attacks, he ambushes them and takes them all prisoner without any fighting. He's also aware of the heroes spying on him and keeps making things difficult for them, such as spraying them with phosphorus so that they'll glow in the dark and not be able to sneak up on him. In the end, he's about to just take the gold openly to his ship, on a train rigged to blow so that it cannot be attacked, and sail to international waters, while everyone can only watch helplessly.\\
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Even after Menace is foiled by a convoluted scheme by Mickey and co. involving a rubber cannonball, he shows up freely driving around in a status symbol car with a status symbol "girlfriend". When Mickey asks why he's not in prison, he replies that the government released him and hired him as a spy because he's so good. Judging from his previous record, he'll probably march into the target location, declare that he's a spy, and get all the information anyway.
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