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12th Nov '17 4:56:42 AM Ingonyama
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** Similarly, the Cowardly Lion's name, Brr, seems to a tribute to the actor who portrayed the character in the 1939 film: Bert Lahrr.

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** Similarly, the Cowardly Lion's name, Brr, seems to a tribute to the actor who portrayed the character in the 1939 film: Bert Lahrr.Lahr. It also references (being the sound one makes while shivering) how he shivered as a cub, and became a coward as an adult.
3rd Oct '17 8:56:26 PM CthonisPrincess
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* FantasyCounterpartCulture: The culture surrounding the inhabitants of the Vinkus is a mix-and-match of Native American, Middle Eastern, Indian and possibly African influences. The Arjiki tribe are mentioned as have [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0c/a6/9f/0ca69fc22d75f3aa4580a3fd9596d906--sexy-men-hot-men.jpg ochre]] [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/34/53/423453c2d703f91a503370fe1b34f9a6.jpg skin]] and wear blue tattoos, possibly henna, on [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/33/b8/a6/33b8a6bb6165875bde883a5afcea7f0d.jpg their faces]] [[https://www.instagram.com/p/BFO891hqf9F/ and bodies]] (Middle Eastern). The Vinkuns, more notably the Scrow are mentioned to worship animals (Native American), in fact the Scrow Princess Nastotya is mentioned to be an Elephant Goddess (Indian). The nomadic lifestyles of the Vinkuns link to Native American and Middle Eastern influences, as well as the prejudice that comes with it.

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* FantasyCounterpartCulture: The culture surrounding the inhabitants of the Vinkus is a mix-and-match of Native American, Romani, Middle Eastern, Indian and possibly African influences. The Arjiki tribe are mentioned as have [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0c/a6/9f/0ca69fc22d75f3aa4580a3fd9596d906--sexy-men-hot-men.jpg ochre]] [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/34/53/423453c2d703f91a503370fe1b34f9a6.jpg skin]] and wear blue tattoos, possibly henna, on [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/33/b8/a6/33b8a6bb6165875bde883a5afcea7f0d.jpg their faces]] [[https://www.instagram.com/p/BFO891hqf9F/ and bodies]] (Middle Eastern). The Vinkuns, more notably the Scrow are mentioned to worship animals (Native American), animals, in fact the Scrow Princess Nastotya is mentioned to be an Elephant Goddess (Indian). The nomadic lifestyles of the Vinkuns link to Native American Indian/Romani (Gypsy) and Middle Eastern influences, as well as the prejudice that comes with it.



* TokenMinority: The culture surrounding the inhabitants of the Vinkus is a mix-and-match of Native American, Middle Eastern, Indian and possibly African influences. However the POC are “uncivilised” in these books (even if said Savages have a society that seems more palatable than the cruelty of the Emerald City). Fiyero's ethnicity is never actually mentioned, he is simply referred to being dark, or ochre in colour, which could mean [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2f/c6/aa/2fc6aac0a547fa59faf0b0515a11acae--middle-eastern-makeup-middle-eastern-models.jpg yellow-brown]] (Olive) skin, right through to [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ae/0f/42/ae0f4215509d014cb38a6620eedcccfc--native-american-indians-native-americans.jpg reddish]] [[http://cdn2.stylecraze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Dark-Skin-Beauties1.jpg brown skin]]. The problem is that most of them end up dead (Fiyero, Sarima, Manek, Irji, Sarima's Sisters, Nor, Nastotya) or end up having extremely difficult lives, like Nor who was turned into a sex slave and was abused so much that she sewed her vagina shut; and while they are alive they are viewed as savages and barbarians – and prejudice against them is regarded mildly as “snobbery.” The flip side is that, in a book full of rather unpleasant characters, the POC tend to be some of the very few that are genuinely decent people.

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* TokenMinority: The culture surrounding the inhabitants of the Vinkus is a mix-and-match of Native American, Romani, Middle Eastern, Indian and possibly African influences. However the POC are “uncivilised” in these books (even if said Savages have a society that seems more palatable than the cruelty of the Emerald City). Fiyero's ethnicity is never actually mentioned, he is simply referred to being dark, or ochre in colour, which could mean [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2f/c6/aa/2fc6aac0a547fa59faf0b0515a11acae--middle-eastern-makeup-middle-eastern-models.jpg yellow-brown]] (Olive) skin, right through to [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ae/0f/42/ae0f4215509d014cb38a6620eedcccfc--native-american-indians-native-americans.com/736x/84/e2/3e/84e23e988050caefbbfb214752ac2c7f--gypsy-women-gypsy-girls.jpg reddish]] [[http://cdn2.stylecraze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Dark-Skin-Beauties1.jpg brown skin]]. The problem is that most of them end up dead (Fiyero, Sarima, Manek, Irji, Sarima's Sisters, Nor, Nastotya) or end up having extremely difficult lives, like Nor who was turned into a sex slave and was abused so much that she sewed her vagina shut; and while they are alive they are viewed as savages and barbarians – and prejudice against them is regarded mildly as “snobbery.” The flip side is that, in a book full of rather unpleasant characters, the POC tend to be some of the very few that are genuinely decent people.



*** Glinda turned yellow-pink. "My dear," she said, "I was fond of Fiyero and he was a good man and a fine statesman. But among other things, you will remember he was [[http://sanslimitesn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/sa-beaute-est-une-menace-pour-les-dames-il-est-expulse-darabie-saoudite6.jpg dark-skinned]]. Even if I took up dalliances-an inclination I believe rarely benefits anyone-you are once again being suspicious and cranky to suspect me and Fiyero! The idea!”\\

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*** Glinda turned yellow-pink. "My dear," she said, "I was fond of Fiyero and he was a good man and a fine statesman. But among other things, you will remember he was [[http://sanslimitesn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/sa-beaute-est-une-menace-pour-les-dames-il-est-expulse-darabie-saoudite6.jpg dark-skinned]].dark]][[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/84/e2/3e/84e23e988050caefbbfb214752ac2c7f--gypsy-women-gypsy-girls.jpg -skinned]]. Even if I took up dalliances-an inclination I believe rarely benefits anyone-you are once again being suspicious and cranky to suspect me and Fiyero! The idea!”\\
3rd Oct '17 5:53:46 PM CthonisPrincess
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* TokenMinority: The culture surrounding the inhabitants of the Vinkus is a mix-and-match of Native American, Middle Eastern, Indian and possibly African influences. But Gregory Maguire had racist culture portrayals and everyone has racist opinions on the Vinkuns, mostly disguised as snobbery. Besides all of the POC in his books either die (Fiyero, Sarima, Manek, Irji, Sarima's Sisters, Nor, Nastotya) or end up having extremely difficult lives, like Nor who was turned into a sex slave and was abused so much that she sewed her vagina shut.

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* TokenMinority: The culture surrounding the inhabitants of the Vinkus is a mix-and-match of Native American, Middle Eastern, Indian and possibly African influences. But Gregory Maguire had racist culture portrayals and everyone has racist opinions on the Vinkuns, mostly disguised as snobbery. Besides all of However the POC are “uncivilised” in his these books either die (even if said Savages have a society that seems more palatable than the cruelty of the Emerald City). Fiyero's ethnicity is never actually mentioned, he is simply referred to being dark, or ochre in colour, which could mean [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2f/c6/aa/2fc6aac0a547fa59faf0b0515a11acae--middle-eastern-makeup-middle-eastern-models.jpg yellow-brown]] (Olive) skin, right through to [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ae/0f/42/ae0f4215509d014cb38a6620eedcccfc--native-american-indians-native-americans.jpg reddish]] [[http://cdn2.stylecraze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Dark-Skin-Beauties1.jpg brown skin]]. The problem is that most of them end up dead (Fiyero, Sarima, Manek, Irji, Sarima's Sisters, Nor, Nastotya) or end up having extremely difficult lives, like Nor who was turned into a sex slave and was abused so much that she sewed her vagina shut. shut; and while they are alive they are viewed as savages and barbarians – and prejudice against them is regarded mildly as “snobbery.” The flip side is that, in a book full of rather unpleasant characters, the POC tend to be some of the very few that are genuinely decent people.
** Talking about Fiyero
*** Avaric: What's he wearing such [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/56/26/02/56260255ae6e849d28bce2189057c5b0--beauty-spa-the-beauty.jpg silly paint]] for? He only draws attention to himself. And that skin. I wouldn't want to have skin the color of shit.\\
Elphaba: What a thing to say, if you ask me, that's a shitty opinion.''
*** Glinda turned yellow-pink. "My dear," she said, "I was fond of Fiyero and he was a good man and a fine statesman. But among other things, you will remember he was [[http://sanslimitesn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/sa-beaute-est-une-menace-pour-les-dames-il-est-expulse-darabie-saoudite6.jpg dark-skinned]]. Even if I took up dalliances-an inclination I believe rarely benefits anyone-you are once again being suspicious and cranky to suspect me and Fiyero! The idea!”\\
And the Witch realized, sinkingly, that this was of course true; the ugly skill at snobbery had returned to Glinda in her middle years.
-->-- ''Wicked: The Life And Times Of The Wicked Witch Of The West''
3rd Oct '17 4:01:20 PM CthonisPrincess
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* TokenMinority: The culture surrounding the inhabitants of the Vinkus is a mix-and-match of Native American, Middle Eastern, Indian and possibly African influences. But Gregory Maguire had racist culture portrayals and everyone has racist opinions on the Vinkuns, mostly disguised as snobbery. Besides all of the POC in his books either die (Fiyero, Sarima, Manek, Irji, Sarima's Sisters, Nor, Nastotya) or end up having extremely difficult lives, like Nor who was turned into a sex slave and was abused so much that she sewed her vagina shut.
3rd Oct '17 3:19:23 AM CthonisPrincess
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* FantasyCounterpartCulture: The culture surrounding the inhabitants of the Vinkus is a mix-and-match of Native American, Middle Eastern, Indian and possibly African influences. The Arjiki tribe are mentioned as have [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0c/a6/9f/0ca69fc22d75f3aa4580a3fd9596d906--sexy-men-hot-men.jpg ochre]] [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/34/53/423453c2d703f91a503370fe1b34f9a6.jpg skin]] and wear blue tattoos, possibly henna, on [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/33/b8/a6/33b8a6bb6165875bde883a5afcea7f0d.jpg their faces]] [[https://www.instagram.com/p/BFO891hqf9F/ and bodies]]. The Vinkuns, more notably the Scrow are mentioned to worship animals (Native American), in fact the Scrow Princess Nastotya is mentioned to be an Elephant Goddess (Indian). The nomadic lifestyles of the Vinkuns link to Native American and Middle Eastern influences, as well as the prejudice that comes with it.

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* FantasyCounterpartCulture: The culture surrounding the inhabitants of the Vinkus is a mix-and-match of Native American, Middle Eastern, Indian and possibly African influences. The Arjiki tribe are mentioned as have [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0c/a6/9f/0ca69fc22d75f3aa4580a3fd9596d906--sexy-men-hot-men.jpg ochre]] [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/34/53/423453c2d703f91a503370fe1b34f9a6.jpg skin]] and wear blue tattoos, possibly henna, on [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/33/b8/a6/33b8a6bb6165875bde883a5afcea7f0d.jpg their faces]] [[https://www.instagram.com/p/BFO891hqf9F/ and bodies]].bodies]] (Middle Eastern). The Vinkuns, more notably the Scrow are mentioned to worship animals (Native American), in fact the Scrow Princess Nastotya is mentioned to be an Elephant Goddess (Indian). The nomadic lifestyles of the Vinkuns link to Native American and Middle Eastern influences, as well as the prejudice that comes with it.
3rd Oct '17 3:17:18 AM CthonisPrincess
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* FantasyCounterpartCulture: The culture surrounding the inhabitants of the Vinkus is a mix-and-match of Native American, Middle Eastern, Indian and possibly African influences. The Arjiki tribe are mentioned as have [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/0c/a6/9f/0ca69fc22d75f3aa4580a3fd9596d906--sexy-men-hot-men.jpg ochre]] [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/42/34/53/423453c2d703f91a503370fe1b34f9a6.jpg skin]] and wear blue tattoos, possibly henna, on [[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/33/b8/a6/33b8a6bb6165875bde883a5afcea7f0d.jpg their faces]] [[https://www.instagram.com/p/BFO891hqf9F/ and bodies]]. The Vinkuns, more notably the Scrow are mentioned to worship animals (Native American), in fact the Scrow Princess Nastotya is mentioned to be an Elephant Goddess (Indian). The nomadic lifestyles of the Vinkuns link to Native American and Middle Eastern influences, as well as the prejudice that comes with it.
3rd Oct '17 1:43:15 AM CthonisPrincess
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** Fiyero, and the people of the Vinkus, seem to be victims of racism as well. One of the first things one of the characters mention about Fiyero is that he has skin "the color of shit."
* FantasyCounterPartCulture: The Vinkus to Africa.

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** Fiyero, and the people of the Vinkus, seem to be victims of racism as well. One of the first things one of the characters mention about Fiyero is that he has skin "the color of shit."
* FantasyCounterPartCulture: The Vinkus
" Fiyero's ethnicity is never actually mentioned, he is simply referred to Africa.being dark, or ochre in colour, which could mean yellow-brown (Olive) skin, right through to reddish-brown skin.
** It's clear that Gregory Maguire had racist character portrayals, all of the POC in his books either die (Fiyero, Sarima, Manek, Irji, Sarima's Sisters, Nor, Nastotya) or end up having extremely difficult lives, like Nor who was turned into a sex slave and was abused so much that she sewed her vagina shut.



* NativeAmerican: The inhabitant tribes of the Vinkus (Western Oz/Winkie Country) are [[http://wicked.wikia.com/wiki/The_Vinkus the Ozian equivalents]] [[https://cthonisprincess.tumblr.com/post/165541279538/fiyero of the Native Americans.]]
1st Oct '17 5:14:33 AM CthonisPrincess
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* NativeAmerican: The inhabitant tribes of the Vinkus (Western Oz/Winkie Country) are the Ozian equivalents of the Native Americans.

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* NativeAmerican: The inhabitant tribes of the Vinkus (Western Oz/Winkie Country) are [[http://wicked.wikia.com/wiki/The_Vinkus the Ozian equivalents equivalents]] [[https://cthonisprincess.tumblr.com/post/165541279538/fiyero of the Native Americans.]]
1st Oct '17 5:01:34 AM CthonisPrincess
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* NativeAmerican: The inhabitant tribes of the Vinkus (Western Oz/Winkie Country) are the Ozian equivalents of the Native Americans.
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