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16th Jan '18 3:17:26 PM tentacles42
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''Jaina Proudmoore: Tides Of War'' is the name of a ''World of Warcraft'' novel by Christie Golden. As her previous work, ''The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm'', had done for ''World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King'', this story leads into the World of Warcraft expansion ''World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria''.

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''Jaina Proudmoore: Tides Of War'' is the name of a ''World of Warcraft'' novel by Christie Golden. As her previous work, ''The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm'', had done for ''World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King'', Cataclysm'', this story leads into the World of Warcraft expansion ''World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria''.
16th Jan '18 4:17:47 AM Cryoclaste
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''Jaina Proudmoore: Tides Of War'' is the name of a World of Warcraft novel by Christie Golden. As her previous work, ''The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm'', had done for ''World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King'', this story leads into the World of Warcraft expansion ''World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria''.

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''Jaina Proudmoore: Tides Of War'' is the name of a World ''World of Warcraft Warcraft'' novel by Christie Golden. As her previous work, ''The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm'', had done for ''World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King'', this story leads into the World of Warcraft expansion ''World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria''.



* AdaptationExpansion: "Theramore's Fall" is a scenario in WorldOfWarcraft mainly focuses on the Horde rescuing [[spoiler:Thalen Songweaver]] and the Alliance helping Jaina as she retrieves the Focusing Iris. This focuses on the battle, and its personal impacts on Jaina.

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* AdaptationExpansion: "Theramore's Fall" is a scenario in WorldOfWarcraft ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' mainly focuses on the Horde rescuing [[spoiler:Thalen Songweaver]] and the Alliance helping Jaina as she retrieves the Focusing Iris. This focuses on the battle, and its personal impacts on Jaina.



* {{Foreshadowing}}: Vol'jin approaches Baine after the meeting with Garrosh and tells him that it was unwise to raise Garrosh's ire, and that he is cautious because of how close the trolls are to Orgrimmar. In WorldOfWarcraft, [[spoiler:Vol'jin is almost killed in the Dagger in the Dark scenario after he objects to Garrosh planning on making saurok minions, he goes into hiding after faking his death, and Garrosh has the Echo Isles occupied]].

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Vol'jin approaches Baine after the meeting with Garrosh and tells him that it was unwise to raise Garrosh's ire, and that he is cautious because of how close the trolls are to Orgrimmar. In WorldOfWarcraft, ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', [[spoiler:Vol'jin is almost killed in the Dagger in the Dark scenario after he objects to Garrosh planning on making saurok minions, he goes into hiding after faking his death, and Garrosh has the Echo Isles occupied]].



* LateArrivalSpoiler:You will likely have heard about [[spoiler:Theramore’s fate]] if you play WorldOfWarcraft, but thankfully, the back cover only implies what will happen to it.

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* LateArrivalSpoiler:You will likely have heard about [[spoiler:Theramore’s fate]] if you play WorldOfWarcraft, ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', but thankfully, the back cover only implies what will happen to it.
18th Mar '16 6:01:05 AM Derkhan
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Jaina Proudmoore: Tides Of War is the name of a World of Warcraft novel by Christie Golden. As her previous work, The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm, had done for World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King, this story leads into the World of Warcraft expansion World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria.

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Jaina ''Jaina Proudmoore: Tides Of War War'' is the name of a World of Warcraft novel by Christie Golden. As her previous work, The ''The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm, Cataclysm'', had done for World ''World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King, King'', this story leads into the World of Warcraft expansion World ''World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria.
Pandaria''.
26th Dec '15 3:50:01 PM MinisterOfSinister
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-->'''Ol' Durty Pete''': Ye got yer message through, lass. Ye done good. Take yer rest, noo.
-->'''Corproal Teegan''': She’s dead, you idiot.
-->'''Ol' Durty Pete''': I know, laddie, I know.

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-->'''Ol' Durty Pete''': Pete:''' Ye got yer message through, lass. Ye done good. Take yer rest, noo.
-->'''Corproal Teegan''':
noo.\\
'''Corproal Teegan:'''
She’s dead, you idiot.
-->'''Ol'
idiot.\\
'''Ol'
Durty Pete''': Pete:''' I know, laddie, I know.



-->'''Jaina Proudmoore (speaking to a statue of her late father)''': You were right, Papa. ''You were right!'' I should have listened!

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-->'''Jaina Proudmoore (speaking Proudmoore:''' ''(speaking to a statue of her late father)''': father)'' You were right, Papa. ''You were right!'' I should have listened!



-->'''Varian''': Even lovers of peace despise cowards.

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-->'''Varian''': -->'''Varian:''' Even lovers of peace despise cowards.



-->'''Baine''': That, Garrosh, is the blood of a young tauren who died obeying ''your'' orders! ''Your'' commands! The commands have left far too many stiffening in these muddy waters for no purpose! It is a more fitting decoration than your tattoos, Garrosh!"

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-->'''Baine''': -->'''Baine:''' That, Garrosh, is the blood of a young tauren who died obeying ''your'' orders! ''Your'' commands! The commands have left far too many stiffening in these muddy waters for no purpose! It is a more fitting decoration than your tattoos, Garrosh!"



-->'''Varian''': You have grown cowardly since we last met. First magnataur, then elementals, then kraken to do your dirty work. Did you run and hide when you [[spoiler:dropped the mana bomb]]? I’m sure you were a safe distance away!

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-->'''Varian''': -->'''Varian:''' You have grown cowardly since we last met. First magnataur, then elementals, then kraken to do your dirty work. Did you run and hide when you [[spoiler:dropped the mana bomb]]? I’m sure you were a safe distance away!



-->'''Jaina''':[[spoiler:''Theramore's destruction I lay firmly at your feet, Thrall! You left Garrosh in charge of the Horde! I begged you to come back and remove him from power. I knew he would do something terrible one day, and he has. Garrosh may have done this -- but I blame you for giving him the power to do it!'']]
** Kalec and Thrall give her one as well; Thrall points out that she's using the same artifact Garrosh used to exact her revenge, while Kalec bluntly tells her that she's using the same logic that Arthas used to justify the slaughter of Stratholme, before outright implying that she's being WORSE, since Artahs was acting more out of misguided compassion than hatred, before asking her if that's how she really wants to be remembered. Fortunately, Jaina realizes that they are both right and snaps out of her vendetta.

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-->'''Jaina''':[[spoiler:''Theramore's -->'''Jaina:''' [[spoiler:Theramore's destruction I lay firmly at your feet, Thrall! You left Garrosh in charge of the Horde! I begged you to come back and remove him from power. I knew he would do something terrible one day, and he has. Garrosh may have done this -- but I blame you for giving him the power to do it!'']]
it!]]
** Kalec and Thrall give her one as well; Thrall points out that she's using the same artifact Garrosh used to exact her revenge, while Kalec bluntly tells her that she's using the same logic that Arthas used to justify the slaughter of Stratholme, before outright implying that she's being WORSE, since Artahs Arthas was acting more out of misguided compassion than hatred, before asking her if that's how she really wants to be remembered. Fortunately, Jaina realizes that they are both right and snaps out of her vendetta.



-->'''Garrosh''': Does this look like the green skin of Thrall?
-->'''Hamuul''': No, Warchief. No one would ''ever'' mistake you for Thrall.

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-->'''Garrosh''': -->'''Garrosh:''' Does this look like the green skin of Thrall?
-->'''Hamuul''':
Thrall?\\
'''Hamuul:'''
No, Warchief. No one would ''ever'' mistake you for Thrall.



-->'''Garrosh''': And now, can you tell me what my decision to wait has brought us?
-->'''Hamuul''': Defeat?

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-->'''Garrosh''': -->'''Garrosh:''' And now, can you tell me what my decision to wait has brought us?
-->'''Hamuul''':
us?\\
'''Hamuul:'''
Defeat?



-->'''Jaina''': Its...math!

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-->'''Jaina''': Its...-->'''Jaina:''' It's... math!
8th May '15 12:58:24 PM MinisterOfSinister
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* SuddenSequelHeelSyndrome: Garrosh. Dear God, Garrosh. He may have been an abrasive and impulsive person with a taste for glorious victory before, but this book is what sets his StartOfDarkness into motion, and there is neither build up nor explanation offered for his change in outlook.

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* SuddenSequelHeelSyndrome: Garrosh. Dear God, Garrosh. He may have been Garrosh was only ever an abrasive and impulsive person with a taste for glorious victory before, AntiHero even on his best day, but his actions in this book is what sets his StartOfDarkness into motion, and there is neither build up nor explanation offered novel are a big leap in the direction of villain. There's no build-up to or backstory for his change in outlook. outlook, and even the WordOfGod that he "has a weak core" and could be easily influenced by a PoisonousFriend sounds more like an excuse than an explanation.
21st Feb '15 12:04:59 PM Phoenixion
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20th Jan '15 8:56:41 PM Austin
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The mana bomb that destroyed Theramore is Warcraft's equivalent of a nuke. The analogy is even stronger when one reads that the mana bomb was engineered after one salvaged from Outland upon the defeat of Kael's blood elves - not unlike the Allies taking nuclear technology from the Germans in the aftermath of WWII. Goes hand-in-hand with the overall "Cold War" stance of the Alliance and Horde.
7th Nov '14 5:00:36 AM Austin
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* IdiotBall[=/=]OutOfCharacterMoment: Baine, while nice, was someone [[BewareTheNiceOnes previously willing to fight the Alliance when provoked]], and was of course protective towards the tribes under his command. In one scene in Tides of War, Baine outright says Taurajo's destruction was justified(keep in mind this included the place being Firebombed!), and then proceeded to exile the tauren who disagreed from Thunder Bluff!


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* SuddenSequelHeelSyndrome: Garrosh. Dear God, Garrosh. He may have been an abrasive and impulsive person with a taste for glorious victory before, but this book is what sets his StartOfDarkness into motion, and there is neither build up nor explanation offered for his change in outlook.
17th May '14 10:02:32 PM Monsund
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* EasilyForgiven: Baine claims that the destruction of Camp Taurajo, was justified from a military perspective and carried out as mercifully as possible. Keep in mind, per the quest Flightmare, Taurajo was literally firebombed, this is pretty forgiving. Baine then exiled any tauren who disagree with him on this.



* JerkassHasAPoint: In-universe, Baine concedes that the destruction of Camp Taurajo, a somewhat controversial topic among the player base, was justified from a military perspective and carried out as mercifully as possible.


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* KickTheDog: Baine exiling Tauren who disagree with him on his [[EasilyForgiven forgiveness]] towards the Alliance's actions can be seen as this.
8th Mar '14 7:24:11 PM ued199
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** Not to mention Garrosh's attack on Theramore.
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