History Literature / TheThirteenthWarrior

29th Apr '18 5:57:09 PM Swg66
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* AdaptationalBadass: While the Ahmad in the book was banished for fooling around with another man's wife (in a random, loveless encounter), has no particular skills, and barely manages to keep himself alive in fights, the Ahmad in the movie was banished for his (implied to be unconsummated) love of a woman forced to marry another against her will, is a talented equestrian, swordsman and blacksmith; and is capable of learning a language just by careful observation and listening (at least in an immersive environment). He starts the movie about as competent in a fight as his book equivalent, but it turns out it's because he doesn't know how to use that style of sword.

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* AdaptationalBadass: While the Ahmad in the book was banished for fooling around with another man's wife (in on a random, loveless encounter), diplomatic missions, has no particular skills, and barely manages to keep himself alive in fights, the Ahmad in the movie was banished for his (implied to be unconsummated) love of a woman forced to marry another against her will, is a talented equestrian, swordsman and blacksmith; and is capable of learning a language just by careful observation and listening (at least in an immersive environment). He starts the movie about as competent in a fight as his book equivalent, but it turns out it's because he doesn't know how to use that style of sword.
1st Mar '18 8:00:36 AM DragonQuestZ
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!!''The 13th Warrior'' provides examples of:
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1st Mar '18 7:59:20 AM DragonQuestZ
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''Eaters of the Dead'' is an adventure story that inserts the RealLife Arabic traveler Ahmad ibn Fadlan into a tale of [[HornyVikings Nordic saga]]. Ahmad ibn Fadlan is an educated Arab courtier who is [[ReassignedToAntarctica sent to foreign lands]] as punishment for a courtly indiscretion. He is recruited to serve as the thirteenth member of a group of Norse warriors who answer a call for help from a far-away Nordic king. The kingdom is under attack from the Wendol. [[BadassBookworm The bookish]] Ahmad ibn Fadlan narrates his adventure and his growing respect for the barbarians around him.

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''The 13th Warrior'', aka ''Eaters of the Dead'' is an adventure story that inserts the RealLife Arabic traveler Ahmad ibn Fadlan into a tale of [[HornyVikings Nordic saga]]. Ahmad ibn Fadlan is an educated Arab courtier who is [[ReassignedToAntarctica sent to foreign lands]] as punishment for a courtly indiscretion. He is recruited to serve as the thirteenth member of a group of Norse warriors who answer a call for help from a far-away Nordic king. The kingdom is under attack from the Wendol. [[BadassBookworm The bookish]] Ahmad ibn Fadlan narrates his adventure and his growing respect for the barbarians around him.



Creator/MichaelCrichton wrote the original novel, called ''Eaters of the Dead'', and it was something of a departure from his usual science-fiction fare. He supposedly wrote the novel on a dare from a friend who demanded he "find a way to make ''Beowulf'' interesting." As Crichton was aware of the notoriously dry, bland Ahmad ibn Fadlan and his ability to make any miraculous new wonder sound prosaic and dull, he put the two together [[{{Demythtification}} as if it were Ahmad giving an actual historical account]]. The [[AllCavemenWereNeanderthals Neanderthals]] serving as the film's villains are an expected flourish of science fiction.

The novel was later adapted into a feature film starring Creator/AntonioBanderas and directed by Creator/JohnMcTiernan. Crichton himself performed some reshoots after test screenings, such as making the tribe's queen into a lithe DarkActionGirl. Depending on how the numbers are calculated the film is possibly the biggest box office failure of all time, with an upper figure of 180 ''million'' dollars lost on the production.

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Creator/MichaelCrichton wrote the original novel, called ''Eaters of the Dead'', and it was something of a departure from his usual science-fiction fare. He supposedly wrote the novel on a dare from a friend who demanded he "find a way to make ''Beowulf'' interesting." As Crichton was aware of the notoriously dry, bland Ahmad ibn Fadlan and his ability to make any miraculous new wonder sound prosaic and dull, he put the two together [[{{Demythtification}} as if it were Ahmad giving an actual historical account]]. The [[AllCavemenWereNeanderthals Neanderthals]] serving as the film's villains are an expected flourish of science fiction.

The novel was later adapted into a feature film starring Creator/AntonioBanderas and directed by Creator/JohnMcTiernan. Crichton himself performed some reshoots after test screenings, such as making the tribe's queen into a lithe DarkActionGirl. Depending on how For the numbers are calculated release of the film is possibly film, some printings renamed the biggest box office failure of all time, book after the film, with an upper figure of 180 ''million'' dollars lost on the production.
note "Originally Published As 'Eaters of the Dead'".
1st Mar '18 1:36:59 AM BitchardPryor
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''The 13th Warrior'' is an adventure story that inserts the RealLife Arabic traveler Ahmad ibn Fadlan into a tale of [[HornyVikings Nordic saga]]. Ahmad ibn Fadlan is an educated Arab courtier who is [[ReassignedToAntarctica sent to foreign lands]] as punishment for a courtly indiscretion. He is recruited to serve as the thirteenth member of a group of Norse warriors who answer a call for help from a far-away Nordic king. The kingdom is under attack from the Wendol. [[BadassBookworm The bookish]] Ahmad ibn Fadlan narrates his adventure and his growing respect for the barbarians around him.

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''The 13th Warrior'' ''Eaters of the Dead'' is an adventure story that inserts the RealLife Arabic traveler Ahmad ibn Fadlan into a tale of [[HornyVikings Nordic saga]]. Ahmad ibn Fadlan is an educated Arab courtier who is [[ReassignedToAntarctica sent to foreign lands]] as punishment for a courtly indiscretion. He is recruited to serve as the thirteenth member of a group of Norse warriors who answer a call for help from a far-away Nordic king. The kingdom is under attack from the Wendol. [[BadassBookworm The bookish]] Ahmad ibn Fadlan narrates his adventure and his growing respect for the barbarians around him.
19th Feb '18 10:08:54 AM Divra
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* MightyWhitey: Averted. Ibn Fadlan impresses the Vikings with his skills, not least his literacy and horsemanship, but he never surpasses the Vikings in the skills they teach him, and he is most definitely not a fighter. If anything, the Vikings consider him the TagalongKid, even going so far as to call him "little brother". And of course, Ahmad ibn Fadlan is an Arab. He is actually a fairly competent fighter, but he can never hope to match the Vikings in battle because... well... they're Vikings.

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* MightyWhitey: Averted. Ibn Fadlan impresses the Vikings with his skills, not least his literacy and horsemanship, but he never surpasses the Vikings in the skills they teach him, and while he is most definitely not a fighter.fairly competent fighter he is nowhere near a match for any of the Vikings. If anything, the Vikings consider him the TagalongKid, even going so far as to call him "little brother". And of course, Ahmad ibn Fadlan is an Arab. He is actually a fairly competent fighter, but he can never hope to match the Vikings in battle because... well... they're Vikings.
14th Jan '18 4:10:36 PM nombretomado
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* XMeetsY: ''Beowulf'' meets Ahmad ibn Fadlan's travelogue. Deliberate and not hidden.
5th Jan '18 2:42:35 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Each of Buliwyf's men wears a completely different set of armor that in many cases won't be made [[TheyJustDidntCare for centuries]], or is outdated by centuries. There is a Roman gladiator's ''murmillo'', a Spanish conquistador's ''morrión'' and breastplate, a Greek-looking set of scale armor, and Buliwyf wears a Vandal helmet and part of a 15th century knight's plate armor at the same time.

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** Each of Buliwyf's men wears a completely different set of armor that in many cases won't be made [[TheyJustDidntCare for centuries]], centuries, or is outdated by centuries. There is a Roman gladiator's ''murmillo'', a Spanish conquistador's ''morrión'' and breastplate, a Greek-looking set of scale armor, and Buliwyf wears a Vandal helmet and part of a 15th century knight's plate armor at the same time.
4th Jan '18 5:32:59 PM Naram-Sin
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* HeroesLoveDogs: Buliwyf is accompanied by a large red dog for most of the movie.
4th Jan '18 5:30:30 PM Naram-Sin
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* DecapitationPresentation: The Wendol steal the heads of those who kill, including some of Buliwyf's men.


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* OffWithHisHead: The Wendol steal the heads of those they kill, including some of Buliwyf's men.


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* OffWithHisHead: Besides the Wendol kills, there is also [[spoiler:Herger decapitating Angus in their duel.]]
2nd Jan '18 12:26:40 PM Naram-Sin
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* ArtisticLicensegeography: The map in the beginning shows Baghdad in the middle of the Caucasus, at an equal distance between the Black and Caspian seas.

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* ArtisticLicensegeography: ArtisticLicenseGeography: The map in the beginning shows Baghdad in the middle of the Caucasus, at an equal distance between the Black and Caspian seas.
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