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%%* HeroesWantRedheads: Karmiana.
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* MeetingTheParentsSequel: Dina meets her DisappearedDad in the third book, while [[spoiler:Rikert is revealed to be Davin and Melli's father]] at the end of the last book.
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%% * GettingCrapPastThe Getting Crap Past The Radar: Due to overwhelming and persistent misuse, GCPTR is on-page examples only until 01 June 2021. If you are reading this in the future, please check the trope page to make sure your example fits the current definition.
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%%* OutDamnedSpot: Nico.
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* DarkSkinnedRedHead: Davin is depicted as such on the cover art of ''The Shamer's Signet'' and his personality fits the associated one.
** In the text he's described as having reddish brown hair, while his skintone isn't described.
** None of the adaptations have depicted him this way.
** In the text he's described as having reddish brown hair, while his skintone isn't described.
** None of the adaptations have depicted him this way.
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* ParentalIncest: Not present in the books, but due to Nico's brother being AdaptedOut and [[CompositeCharacter combined with the character of Ebnezer]] in TheMovie, Adela is Nico's stepmother, and the backstory with Nico and Adela's affair is kept, making the whole thing fairly squicky. Additionally, a drunk Nico is seen delivering a TakeThatKiss to his abusive father.
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* ParentalIncest: Not present in the books, but due to Nico's brother being AdaptedOut and [[CompositeCharacter combined with the character of Ebnezer]] in TheMovie, TheFilmOfTheBook, Adela is Nico's stepmother, and the backstory with Nico and Adela's affair is kept, making the whole thing fairly squicky. Additionally, a drunk Nico is seen delivering a TakeThatKiss to his abusive father.
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* CrossDressing: When the Shamer's daughter is wanted, said daughter Dina cuts her hair and disguises herself as a boy.
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* SweetPollyOliver: When the Shamer's daughter is wanted, said daughter Dina cuts her hair and disguises herself as a boy.
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The first two books were eventually adapted into live action films, which were respectively released in 2015 and 2019.
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: The first book, when Dina sees Nico's past via ExpositionBeam, mentions teenage!Nico repeatedly whispering Adela's name into his pillows. At night. Make what you will of that.
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* ParentalIncest: Not present in the books, but due to Nico's brother being AdaptedOut and [[CompositeCharacter combined with the character of Ebnezer]] in TheMovie, Adela is Nico's stepmother, and the backstory with Nico and Adela's affair is kept, making the whole thing fairly squicky. Additionally, a drunk Nico is seen delivering a TakeThatKiss to his abusive father. All of this falls under GettingCrapPastTheRadar as well.
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* ParentalIncest: Not present in the books, but due to Nico's brother being AdaptedOut and [[CompositeCharacter combined with the character of Ebnezer]] in TheMovie, Adela is Nico's stepmother, and the backstory with Nico and Adela's affair is kept, making the whole thing fairly squicky. Additionally, a drunk Nico is seen delivering a TakeThatKiss to his abusive father. All of this falls under GettingCrapPastTheRadar as well.
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* SensitiveGuyAndManlyMan: Nico, who doesn't want to fight which makes him gender non-conforming by his society's standards and Davin, who is eager to become a warrior [[Spoiler: until he understands what that entails, at least.]]
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* SensitiveGuyAndManlyMan: Nico, who doesn't want to fight which makes him gender non-conforming by his society's standards and Davin, who is eager to become a warrior [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: until he understands what that entails, at least.]]
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* BigBrotherBully: Aun [[spoiler:Rose's half-brother, who beats her and blames her for everything.]]
** Nico's older brother as well, as seen when Dina looks into his memories.
** Nico's older brother as well, as seen when Dina looks into his memories.
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* BigBrotherBully: Aun [[spoiler:Rose's BigBrotherBully:
** Rose's half-brother,who Aun, beats her, tries to make her steal for him and blames her for everything.]]
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** Nico's olderbrother as well, as seen when Dina looks into brother, Ludovic, used to mock Nico him for his memories.lack of interest in and skill at traditionally masculine disciplines, e.g. calling him "Nicoline".
** Rose's half-brother,
** Nico's older
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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: Drakan is well regarded by a lot of the people, as Nico is instead cast as the villain in the story of the Ravens family's loss. This is the subject of the song "Han er vor fader" (He is our father) from the musical.
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* TheFilmOfTheBook: ''The Shamer's Daughter'' (2015) and ''The Serpent's Gift'' (2018) have both been filmed.
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* CrossDressing: When the Shamer's DAUGHTER is wanted, said daughter Dina cuts her hair and disguises herself as a boy.
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* CrossDressing: When the Shamer's DAUGHTER daughter is wanted, said daughter Dina cuts her hair and disguises herself as a boy.
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* Crossdressing: When the shamer's DAUGHTER is wanted, said daughter, Dina, cuts her hair and disguises herself as a boy.
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* BerserkButton: Implying Rose might have stolen something or mentioning where she grew up.
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* BerserkButton: Implying Rose might have stolen something or mentioning where she grew up.
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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Black-Arse real name, Allin, is only mentioned a couple of times.
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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Black-Arse Black-Arse's real name, Allin, is only mentioned a couple of times.
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* ActionGirl: Karmiana
* AbusiveParents: Ebnezer to Nico.
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* HeroesWantRedheads: Karmiana.
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* LukeIAmYourFather: [[spoiler:Sezuan to Dina. Indirectly.]]
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* TroubledButCute: Nico.
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* YouShouldHaveDiedInstead: Ebnezer had this kind of attitude towards Nico.
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* DevelopmentHell: It took over 10 years and two different studios for us to get a movie adaption.
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* DawsonCasting: In TheMusical.
** Nico and Davin are 17 and 14 respectively in the first book, but are played by adult actors in the movie.
** Nico and Davin are 17 and 14 respectively in the first book, but are played by adult actors in the movie.
