History Literature / TheNameoftheRose

5th Jan '16 5:33:32 PM DemonDuckofDoom
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12th Dec '15 7:46:08 AM Aquila89
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reads it aloud in the film, in the book he's only reading about love to himself
* LoveMakesYouCrazy: Adso reads out loud to enable William to find him in the labyrinth, love is described as a [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent disease similar to lycanthropy]]. The book certainly gives him pause, given that [[SexEqualsLove he's convinced he's fallen in love with the girl.]]
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* LoveMakesYouCrazy: Adso reads out loud to enable William to find him in the labyrinth, a book where love is described as a [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent disease similar to lycanthropy]]. The book certainly gives him pause, given that [[SexEqualsLove he's convinced he's fallen in love with the girl.]]
11th Dec '15 2:06:01 PM TrollBrutal
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Happens in the film too.
''The Name of the Rose'' is a novel written by Creator/UmbertoEco in 1980, which also received a [[TheFilmOfTheBook movie adaptation]] in 1986, directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud, and starring Creator/ChristianSlater, F. Murray Abraham, Creator/RonPerlman, Creator/MichaelLonsdale, and Creator/SeanConnery.
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''The Name of the Rose'' is a novel written by Creator/UmbertoEco in 1980, which also received a [[TheFilmOfTheBook movie adaptation]] in 1986, directed by Jean-Jacques Annaud, and starring Creator/ChristianSlater, F. Murray Abraham, Creator/RonPerlman, Creator/MichaelLonsdale, and Creator/SeanConnery. Creator/SeanConnery. It was also adapted a year later into an unlicensed [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Abad%C3%ADa_del_Crimen videogame]].

* LoveMakesYouCrazy: In the book Adso reads out loud to enable William to find him in the labyrinth, love is described as a [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent disease similar to lycanthropy]]. The book certainly gives him pause, given that [[SexEqualsLove he's convinced he's fallen in love with the girl.]]
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* LoveMakesYouCrazy: In the book Adso reads out loud to enable William to find him in the labyrinth, love is described as a [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent disease similar to lycanthropy]]. The book certainly gives him pause, given that [[SexEqualsLove he's convinced he's fallen in love with the girl.]]
23rd Oct '15 1:11:48 PM WarriorsGate
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* InWhichATropeIsDescribed: Every chapter of the novel begins with a flowery summary of the events that will be told. One chapter heading is even self-referential, noting how summarizing a plot-heavy chapter in a heading would not be very useful.
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* InWhichATropeIsDescribed: Every chapter of the novel begins with a flowery summary of the events that will be told. In the intro, the modern day translator comments that they were likely added by an author from the Enlightenment, since the practice is about four hundred years too early for the time the manuscript was written. One chapter heading is even self-referential, noting how summarizing a plot-heavy chapter in a heading would not be very useful.

* ShoutOut: Several.
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* ShoutOut: Several.ShoutOut: ** Probably a tenth of the book is either quotations or references to actual antiquary or medieval texts. Whole guidebooks have been devoted to illuminating every single reference Eco makes. ** Aristotle's thought is central to the plot, just as it was in medieval scholasticism. Not only that, [[spoiler: the plot functions much like an Aristotlean tragedy. The hero, William, is so determined to uncover the truth, and the villain, Jorge, is so devoted to piety -- both normally worthwhile virtues -- that they end up destroying the monastery and all its books, accomplishing nothing. Eco even comments on this in [[InWhichATropeIsDescribed the chapter header]] where the library burns down, saying it's caused by an "excess of virtue".]]
18th Oct '15 2:38:07 PM Aquila89
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* QuoteToQuoteCombat: In their debates about whether it's appropriate to laugh, William and Jorge both quote the Bible and various classical authors extensively.
18th Oct '15 2:06:45 PM WarriorsGate
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* DatedHistory: The final sentence of the book (seen at the top of this page) is a quote from 12th century monk Bernard of Cluny. However, while a few of his manuscripts do say "rosa", based on the relative quality of the various texts the modern consensus is that Bernard actually wrote "Roma", as in the city of Rome, which got lost in transcription. Eco has since admitted he wasn't aware of this.

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* TakeThat: [[spoiler: Jorge Luis Borges. While it's obvious Eco has a lot of respect for him as a writer, the historical Borges's support of right-wing dictators like Augusto Pinochet later in his life makes its way into the character Jorge of Burgos being a fierce authoritarian and reactionary, in keeping with the "Years of Lead" subtext of the novel.]]
5th Sep '15 4:47:32 PM Bissek
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* SeriousBusiness: The abbey is hosting a council made up of various factions of the Dominican and Franciscan Orders to debate the burning issue: ''Did {{Jesus}} own his own clothes?'' In the film, this is used for comedy; in the book it is always clear that they are really discussing the church's approach to poverty and wealth, and that the debate is therefore highly political and momentous.
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* SeriousBusiness: The abbey is hosting a council made up of various factions of the Dominican and Franciscan Orders to debate the burning issue: ''Did {{Jesus}} own his own clothes?'' In the film, this is used for comedy; in the book it is always clear that they are really discussing the church's approach to poverty and wealth, and that the debate is therefore highly political and momentous. Other monks spend a great deal of time arguing over the question of ''Did {{Jesus}} ever laugh?''
26th Feb '15 1:22:11 AM Odon
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* {{Pride}}: William's fellow monks regard this as his FatalFlaw when he persists with his investigation when it would be wiser to keep a low profile.

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* WithAllDueRespect: Adso is respectful as befits a novice, but can't help snarking at his mentor with this trope, when pointing out that William never asks him a question to which he doesn't already know the answer.
23rd Feb '15 5:22:44 AM Odon
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* ObfuscatingDisability: Creator/RonPerlman's version of the deformed, mentally disabled hunchback Salvatore is smarter than he seems.
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* ObfuscatingDisability: Creator/RonPerlman's version of the deformed, mentally disabled hunchback Salvatore is smarter than he seems. Unfortunately it doesn't work on Bernado, who simply tortures him until he gets the answers he wants.
23rd Feb '15 4:23:16 AM Odon
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-->'''Adso:''' ''(narrating)'' Who was she? Who was this creature that rose like the dawn, was as bewitching as the moon, radiant as the sun? [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny Terrible as an army poised for battle.]]
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-->'''Adso:''' ''(narrating)'' [[WhoAreYou Who was she? she?]] Who was this creature that rose like the dawn, was as bewitching as the moon, radiant as the sun? [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny Terrible as an army poised for battle.]]
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