History Literature / TheDeathGateCycle

20th Aug '16 6:31:03 PM nombretomado
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* {{Expy}}: Zifnab bears a distinct resemblance (down to the letters of his name) to Fizban from ''{{Dragonlance}}'', though the two have very different backstories and motivations.

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* {{Expy}}: Zifnab bears a distinct resemblance (down to the letters of his name) to Fizban from ''{{Dragonlance}}'', ''Literature/{{Dragonlance}}'', though the two have very different backstories and motivations.



** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]]. It's heavily implied that Zifnab [[spoiler:read the {{Dragonlance}}-novels in his youth.]]

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** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]]. It's heavily implied that Zifnab [[spoiler:read the {{Dragonlance}}-novels Literature/{{Dragonlance}}-novels in his youth.]]



* VillainsNeverLie: Sinistrad outright told his wife to be that he is evil, and that she would regret her decision to be with him. "If you marry me, you marry darkness." She thought he was being romantic and mysterious. Possibly a TakeThat at the more rabid [[{{Dragonlance}} Raistlin]]-fangirls.

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* VillainsNeverLie: Sinistrad outright told his wife to be that he is evil, and that she would regret her decision to be with him. "If you marry me, you marry darkness." She thought he was being romantic and mysterious. Possibly a TakeThat at the more rabid [[{{Dragonlance}} [[Literature/{{Dragonlance}} Raistlin]]-fangirls.
2nd Jun '16 5:16:04 PM Theriocephalus
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* WorldSUndering: A major part of the backstory. In a successful attempt at winning the magical war between themselves and the Patryn, the Sartan sundered the Earth and remade it into the four elemental worlds and the Labyrinth.

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* WorldSUndering: WorldSundering: A major part of the backstory. In a successful attempt at winning the magical war between themselves and the Patryn, the Sartan sundered the Earth and remade it into the four elemental worlds and the Labyrinth.
2nd Jun '16 5:14:35 PM Theriocephalus
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* AbusivePrecursors: The Sartan had definite shades of this -- at the very least, their opinion of the [[{{Muggles}} mensch races]] was low enough that they had no real issues with killing untold millions of them when they sundered the Earth. Not that the Patron would have been any better, mind.

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* AbusivePrecursors: The Sartan had definite shades of this -- at the very least, their opinion of the [[{{Muggles}} mensch races]] was low enough that they had no real issues with killing untold millions of them when they sundered the Earth. Not that the Patron Patryn would have been any better, mind.
2nd Jun '16 5:14:12 PM Theriocephalus
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* BadassNormal: Hugh the Hand- even cursed, he's the one mensch Badass enough [[spoiler: to survive the Labyrinth]]

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* BadassNormal: Hugh the Hand- Hand -- even cursed, he's the one mensch Badass enough [[spoiler: to survive the Labyrinth]]



** In any case, the true elves of this setting are the Sartans and the Patryns, who really don't like mere mortals arguing with them, but it's made pretty clear that they ''should'' - both have major faults they refuse to acknowledge.

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** In any case, the true elves of this setting are the Sartans and the Patryns, who really don't like mere mortals arguing with them, but it's made pretty clear that they ''should'' - -- both have major faults they refuse to acknowledge.



* CharmPerson: Bane was given an enchantment by Sinistrad that makes everyone dote on him. Not love him - there's a significant difference between the two that becomes a minor plot point.

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* CharmPerson: Bane was given an enchantment by Sinistrad that makes everyone dote on him. Not love him - -- there's a significant difference between the two that becomes a minor plot point.



* PreciousPuppies: Why Dog is, well, a dog, [[spoiler:given that he's actually a familiar of Haplo's]].



** Patryns' true names have power too, but they generally don't have to worry about this form of attack, as their spoken names are just approximations of their ''real'' names- the runes tattooed over their hearts, which they only let those who are close to them read. This does lead to another form of AchillesHeel, though, because if the "heart-rune" is attacked or damage, a Patryn's whole magical essence will begin to unravel.

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** Patryns' true names have power too, but they generally don't have to worry about this form of attack, as their spoken names are just approximations of their ''real'' names- names -- the runes tattooed over their hearts, which they only let those who are close to them read. This does lead to another form of AchillesHeel, though, because if the "heart-rune" is attacked or damage, a Patryn's whole magical essence will begin to unravel.



* IneptMage: Alfred has the distinction of being an inept mage with a tremendous amount of raw talent- he's inadvertatnly ''raised the dead'' and ''turned himself into a dragon''. Haplo at one point remarks that Alfred's only talents are raising the dead [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and tailoring]].

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* IneptMage: Alfred has the distinction of being an inept mage with a tremendous amount of raw talent- talent -- he's inadvertatnly ''raised the dead'' and ''turned himself into a dragon''. Haplo at one point remarks that Alfred's only talents are raising the dead [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and tailoring]].



** Ironically, their magic systems reverse this trend- Sartan magic is much more spiritual and mystical and is treated as an art, while Patryn magic is incredibly structured and treated like a science.

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** Ironically, their magic systems reverse this trend- trend -- Sartan magic is much more spiritual and mystical and is treated as an art, while Patryn magic is incredibly structured and treated like a science.



* PreciousPuppies: Why Dog is, well, a dog, [[spoiler:given that he's actually a familiar of Haplo's]].



* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: The Patryns can be quite brutal and ruthless enemies, but they take great pride in their cultural identitity and combat skills, and follow an uncompromising code of honor- [[DoubleStandard at least among each other]]. Several of the mensch cultures also qualify.

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* ProudWarriorRaceGuy: The Patryns can be quite brutal and ruthless enemies, but they take great pride in their cultural identitity and combat skills, and follow an uncompromising code of honor- honor -- [[DoubleStandard at least among each other]]. Several of the mensch cultures also qualify.



* TheUndead: Two basic kinds. The first, just called "cadavers", are semi-sentient and can be trained to do simple tasks (and complex ones if they have an overseer). A corpse raied too quickly, however, becomes a Lazar- its soul hasn't had time to fully depart, and the resulting creature is completely sentient and quite insane. [[spoiler: There's also Hugh the Hand, who was turned into an undead by Alfred's improvising and is apparently unique]].

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* TheUndead: Two basic kinds. The first, just called "cadavers", are semi-sentient and can be trained to do simple tasks (and complex ones if they have an overseer). A corpse raied too quickly, however, becomes a Lazar- Lazar -- its soul hasn't had time to fully depart, and the resulting creature is completely sentient and quite insane. [[spoiler: There's also Hugh the Hand, who was turned into an undead by Alfred's improvising and is apparently unique]].
8th Apr '16 8:50:57 PM Theriocephalus
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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: The serpents, justified because they pretty much ''are'' ChaoticEvil in person, and the monsters in the Labyrinth, which were created by magic gone haywire. Subverted with the Sartan and the Patryns: Each of those races sees the other this way, but both are shown to be just as capable of good ''and'' evil as any other race.
* AnimateDead: the basic spell used by the Sartan necromancers of Abarrach. The problem is, this is a universe based on EquivalentExchange- for every corpse raised, someone of the same race dies untimely. This is theorized to be the cause of the decline of the Sartan. There's also the slight drawback to bringing someone back from the death too early. Instead of just a zombie, they come back as a lazar, which is far more sentient and far more dangerous.

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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: The serpents, justified because they pretty much ''are'' ChaoticEvil in person, and the monsters in the Labyrinth, which were created by magic gone haywire. Subverted with the Sartan and the Patryns: Each each of those races sees the other this way, but both are shown to be just as capable of good ''and'' evil as any other race.
* AnimateDead: the The basic spell used by the Sartan necromancers of Abarrach. The problem is, this is a universe based on EquivalentExchange- EquivalentExchange -- for every corpse raised, someone of the same race dies untimely. This is theorized to be the cause of the decline of the Sartan. There's also the slight drawback to bringing someone back from the death too early. Instead of just a zombie, they come back as a lazar, which is far more sentient and far more dangerous.



* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters

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* %%* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters



* MotiveDecay: Xar goes from wanting to build a better future for the Patryns to wanting to lead the Patryns to conquer the universe because it's their birthright to wanting to conquer the universe for his own benefit. This is spelled out in [[TearJerker tear-jerking fashion]] in ''The Seventh Gate'' when he wonders exactly ''how'' he got from "Save my people" to "EvilOverlord" [[spoiler:--and then hears the sound of Sang-drax's laughter in his mind...]]

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* MotiveDecay: Xar goes from wanting to build a better future for the Patryns to wanting to lead the Patryns to conquer the universe because it's their birthright to wanting to conquer the universe for his own benefit. This is spelled out in [[TearJerker tear-jerking fashion]] in ''The Seventh Gate'' when he wonders exactly ''how'' he got from "Save "save my people" to "EvilOverlord" [[spoiler:--and then hears the sound of Sang-drax's laughter in his mind...]]
8th Apr '16 8:45:57 PM Theriocephalus
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In the backstory, [[ApocalypseHow nuclear war]] devastated Planet Earth, and several new races mutated out of humanity. One was the elves, another the dwarves; but the two most powerful were humans with [[AGodAmI demigod-like]] powers: [[WellIntentionedExtremist Sartan]] and the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Patryn]]. These two races began to war over who would rule; eventually, the Sartan secured victory by remaking the Earth into four separate worlds, one for each element, which would then work together in harmony. (That's their children's catechism quoted above.) They imprisoned the Patryn within a "correctional facility," the Labyrinth, and built Death's Gate itself as the central nexus which made the whole PortalNetwork function. It was ASimplePlan. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong?

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In the backstory, [[ApocalypseHow nuclear war]] devastated Planet Earth, and several new races mutated out of humanity. One was the elves, another the dwarves; but the two most powerful were humans with [[AGodAmI demigod-like]] powers: the [[WellIntentionedExtremist Sartan]] and the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Patryn]]. These two races began to war over who would rule; eventually, the Sartan secured victory by remaking the Earth into four separate worlds, one for each element, which would then work together in harmony. (That's their children's catechism quoted above.) They imprisoned the Patryn within a "correctional facility," the Labyrinth, and built Death's Gate itself as the central nexus which made the whole PortalNetwork function. It was ASimplePlan. WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong?



* AbusivePrecursors: The Sartan had definite shades of this -- at the very least, their opinion of the [[{{Muggles}} mensch races]] was low enough that they had no real issues with killing untold millions of them when they sundered the Earth. Not that the Patron would have been any better, mind.



* AfterTheEnd: After ''two'' ends, actually- an implied nuclear Armageddon, and a definite magical one.

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* AfterTheEnd: After ''two'' ends, actually- actually -- an implied nuclear Armageddon, and a definite magical one. one.



* AntiHero: Haplo, Hugh the Hand

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* AntiHero: Haplo, Hugh the HandHand.



** ''Dragon Wing'': Sinistrad
** ''Elven Star'': The tytans
** ''Fire Sea'': Kleitus [[spoiler: who remains a supporting antagonist in the last three books]]
** ''Serpent Mage'': The dragon-snakes [[spoiler: who become the primary BigBad of the remainder of the series]].
* AsLongAsThereIsEvil: the serpents will exist for as long as there is darkness in the mortal soul

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** ''Dragon Wing'': Sinistrad
Sinistrad.
** ''Elven Star'': The tytans
tytans.
** ''Fire Sea'': Kleitus [[spoiler: who Kleitus, [[spoiler:who remains a supporting antagonist in the last three books]]
books]].
** ''Serpent Mage'': The dragon-snakes [[spoiler: who [[spoiler:who become the primary BigBad of the remainder of the series]].
* AsLongAsThereIsEvil: the The serpents will exist for as long as there is darkness in the mortal soulsoul.



* DysonSphere: Pryan
* EccentricMentor: Zifnab

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* DysonSphere: Pryan
Pryan.
* EccentricMentor: ZifnabZifnab.



* HalfHumanHybrid: A notable aversion; the different races explicitly can't have children together, the only exception being Sartan and Patryns. This is strong proof that they are actually ''the same race'' with very different philosophies on magic... [[FantasticRacism just don't tell them that]].

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* HalfHumanHybrid: A notable aversion; the different races explicitly can't have children together, the only exception being Sartan and Patryns. This is strong proof that they are actually two factions of ''the same race'' with very different philosophies on magic... [[FantasticRacism just don't tell them that]].



* LivingLabyrinth

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* LivingLabyrinth%%* LivingLabyrinth.



* ManipulativeBastard: Sang-drax, Sinistrad, Bane

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* ManipulativeBastard: Sang-drax, Sinistrad, BaneBane.



* {{Muggles}}: the mensch races

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* {{Muggles}}: the The mensch racesraces. It's explicitly stated that the most powerful mysteriarchs -- human wizards from Arianus who are stated to be ''the'' most powerful mensch spell-casters around -- ''begin to approach'' the level of magic of a particularly unskilled Patryn or Sartan.



* OrderVersusChaos: the Sartan, an entire culture of TheFettered, versus the Patryn, {{Ineffectual Loner}}s whose highest loyalty is to the family.

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* OrderVersusChaos: the The Sartan, an entire culture of TheFettered, versus the Patryn, {{Ineffectual Loner}}s whose highest loyalty is to the family.


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* WorldSUndering: A major part of the backstory. In a successful attempt at winning the magical war between themselves and the Patryn, the Sartan sundered the Earth and remade it into the four elemental worlds and the Labyrinth.
16th Jan '16 7:46:15 AM Morgenthaler
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-->[[EarthThatWas The Earth]] was [[EarthShatteringKaboom destroyed]].\\
Four worlds [[WorldSundering were created out of the ruin]]. Worlds for ourselves and the [[{{Muggles}} mensch]]: [[SingleBiomePlanet Air, Fire, Stone, Water]].\\
Four Gates connect each world to the other: [[WorldInTheSky Arianus]] to [[DarkestAfrica Pryan]] to [[HollowWorld Abarrach]] to [[WaterIsAir Chelestra]].\\
A house of correction was built for our enemies: [[DeathWorld the Labyrinth]].\\
The Labyrinth is connected to the other worlds through the Fifth Gate: [[CrystalSpiresAndTogas the Nexus]].\\
The Sixth Gate is the center, permitting entry: [[BeautifulVoid the Vortex]].\\
And all was accomplished through [[AmplifierArtifact the Seventh Gate]].\\
[[AfterTheEnd The end was the beginning]].
--->(in scrawled handwriting, possibly in blood) '''''[[ApocalypticLog The beginning was our end]].'''''

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-->[[EarthThatWas The Earth]] -->The Earth was [[EarthShatteringKaboom destroyed]].destroyed.\\
Four worlds [[WorldSundering were created out of the ruin]]. ruin. Worlds for ourselves and the [[{{Muggles}} mensch]]: [[SingleBiomePlanet mensch: Air, Fire, Stone, Water]].Water.\\
Four Gates connect each world to the other: [[WorldInTheSky Arianus]] Arianus to [[DarkestAfrica Pryan]] Pryan to [[HollowWorld Abarrach]] Abarrach to [[WaterIsAir Chelestra]].Chelestra.\\
A house of correction was built for our enemies: [[DeathWorld the Labyrinth]].Labyrinth.\\
The Labyrinth is connected to the other worlds through the Fifth Gate: [[CrystalSpiresAndTogas the Nexus]].Nexus.\\
The Sixth Gate is the center, permitting entry: [[BeautifulVoid the Vortex]].Vortex.\\
And all was accomplished through [[AmplifierArtifact the Seventh Gate]].Gate.\\
[[AfterTheEnd The end was the beginning]].
beginning.
--->(in scrawled handwriting, possibly in blood) '''''[[ApocalypticLog The '''''The beginning was our end]].end.'''''
8th Oct '15 11:06:41 AM Theriocephalus
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* MotiveDecay: Xar goes from wanting to build a better future for the Patryns to wanting to lead the Patryns to conquer the universe because it's their birthright to wanting to conquer the universe for his own benefit. This is spelled out in [[TearJerker tear-jerking fashion]] in ''The Seventh Gate'' when he wonders exactly ''how'' he got from "Save my people" to "EvilOverlord". —And then hears the sound of Sang-drax's laughter in his mind...

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* MotiveDecay: Xar goes from wanting to build a better future for the Patryns to wanting to lead the Patryns to conquer the universe because it's their birthright to wanting to conquer the universe for his own benefit. This is spelled out in [[TearJerker tear-jerking fashion]] in ''The Seventh Gate'' when he wonders exactly ''how'' he got from "Save my people" to "EvilOverlord". —And "EvilOverlord" [[spoiler:--and then hears the sound of Sang-drax's laughter in his mind...]]
1st Aug '15 9:33:01 PM Vios
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Series of seven HighFantasy novels by MargaretWeis and TracyHickman, generally considered one of their best works.

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Series of seven HighFantasy novels by MargaretWeis Creator/MargaretWeis and TracyHickman, Creator/TracyHickman, generally considered one of their best works.
1st Aug '15 8:53:13 PM Vios
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