History Literature / NineteenEightyFour

22nd Mar '17 7:50:14 PM hamishnewcombe
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Creator/DavidBowie had plans of a musical adaptation of the novel in Main/TheSeventies, but plans were [[Main/WhatCouldHaveBeen rejected by the George Orwell Estate through Orwell's widow herself.]] [[note]] The numbers “We Are The Dead”, “1984” and “Big Brother” were later used on Bowie’s eighth studio album Music/DiamondDogs. [[/note]]
20th Mar '17 9:08:40 AM PrimeEvil
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* BaldOfEvil: After Room 101, Winston is bald, toothless, and soulless.

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* BaldOfEvil: After Room 101, Winston is bald, hairless, toothless, and soulless.
12th Mar '17 12:29:20 PM TheD3rp
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'''NOTE:''' Do not identify this book as being anti-communist or anti-fascist anywhere on this wiki. It's anti-totalitarianism. Orwell was personally a socialist, but thought that both extremes were bad and would [[TheHorseshoeEffect inevitably lead to]] [[MortonsFork the same thing]]. The original political leaning of the Party is [[GenericistGovernment deliberately vague]], and their ''sole'' concern is retaining power -- no more, no less, as stated InUniverse by O'Brien near the end.

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'''NOTE:''' Do not identify this book as being anti-communist or anti-fascist anywhere on this wiki. It's anti-totalitarianism. Orwell was personally a socialist, but thought detested authoritarian regimes that both extremes were bad had been put in place in the Soviet Union and would [[TheHorseshoeEffect inevitably lead to]] [[MortonsFork the same thing]].elsewhere. The original political leaning of the Party is [[GenericistGovernment deliberately vague]], and their ''sole'' concern is retaining power -- no more, no less, as stated InUniverse by O'Brien near the end.
9th Mar '17 6:32:23 PM Jaro7788
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* TooLongDidntDub: Few foreign translations bothered rendering the original's cumbersome title faithfully, instead settling on the more convenient numeral representation of "1984", occasionally attaching the word for "year" to make it look neater. In fact, pretty much every time someone mentions the novel in an Internet comment, you can bet they will write the title numerically rather than verbally.
** Hell, even the 1956 ''English-language film adaptation'' did just that.
9th Mar '17 8:52:51 AM Jaro7788
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* EqualOpportunityEvil: Goldstein's book tells that the Party accepts Jews, blacks and Indios in their ranks, if only to avoid people feeling oppressed by specific other races / cultures / nationalities within Oceania.

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* EqualOpportunityEvil: Goldstein's book tells that the Party accepts Jews, [[note]]Although it's distinctly difficult to imagine the concept of a Jew, after all mostly concerned with culture and religion rather than outward appearance, being allowed to exist within the society of Oceania.[[/note]] blacks and Indios in their ranks, if only to avoid people feeling oppressed by specific other races / cultures / nationalities within Oceania.
4th Mar '17 6:15:02 AM MagBas
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Well not so much a specific character but more the setting as a whole. As one comment on [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQxOKXEff4I this]] video put it,"One interesting thing about 1984 is that it's not entirely clear that IngSoc actually exists outside of the British Isles. All the claims made about territory, about the endless wars, are the product of Minitruth propaganda. One character even hypothesizes that the bombs being dropped on London during the book are simply part of the effort to keep the Proles scared. For all we know, Airstrip One is just one giant North Korea, cut off and isolated from the rest of the world, the party projecting its illusions of grandeur and power onto a populace too broken and controlled to even know any better." Also, the beam coming from the eye in the picture up top could either be a spotlight to represent big brother watching you or a DoomRay to represent their annihilation of society and those who oppose them.
4th Mar '17 4:37:10 AM skadooshbag
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*AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Well not so much a specific character but more the setting as a whole. As one comment on [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQxOKXEff4I this]] video put it,"One interesting thing about 1984 is that it's not entirely clear that IngSoc actually exists outside of the British Isles. All the claims made about territory, about the endless wars, are the product of Minitruth propaganda. One character even hypothesizes that the bombs being dropped on London during the book are simply part of the effort to keep the Proles scared. For all we know, Airstrip One is just one giant North Korea, cut off and isolated from the rest of the world, the party projecting its illusions of grandeur and power onto a populace too broken and controlled to even know any better." Also, the beam coming from the eye in the picture up top could either be a spotlight to represent big brother watching you or a DoomRay to represent their annihilation of society and those who oppose them.
17th Feb '17 11:33:38 PM Az_Tech341
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* DownerEnding: After his "rehabilitation" in the Ministry of Love and betraying Julia to his own FateWorseThanDeath, Winston callously and casually assists the Party's war department by allowing them to use his tactical mind through the medium of self-versed chess to economically distribute Oceania's forces in Africa more effectively. His love for Julia is nonexistent, and she reciprocates. After reading reports that the attacks he coordinated have succeeded, he forsakes his first and earliest childhood memory and replaces it with pure hot-blooded devotion to the truly-proved-meaningless cause of war on the Party's behalf. He ends his life in stupid ecstasy, confessing to crimes he did not commit in order to alleviate guilt from the Party (the same lie of which others partook at the start of the novel being the incitement of his intellectual rebellion), and finally holding unconditional love for Big Brother.

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* DownerEnding: After his "rehabilitation" in the Ministry of Love and betraying Julia to his own FateWorseThanDeath, Winston callously and casually assists the Party's war department by allowing them to use his tactical mind through the medium of self-versed chess to economically distribute Oceania's forces in Africa more effectively. His love for Julia is nonexistent, and she reciprocates. After reading reports that the attacks he coordinated have succeeded, he forsakes his first and earliest childhood memory and replaces it with pure hot-blooded devotion to the truly-proved-meaningless cause of war on the Party's behalf. He ends his life in stupid ecstasy, confessing to crimes he did not commit in order to alleviate guilt from the Party (the same lie of which others partook at the start of the novel being the incitement of his intellectual rebellion), and finally holding professing unconditional love for Big Brother.Brother as he's shot through the back of the head.
17th Feb '17 6:18:37 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** O'Brien telling Winston and Julia about how they will be captured, tortured, etc. after joining The Brotherhood.

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** O'Brien telling Winston and Julia about how they will be risk being captured, tortured, etc. after joining The Brotherhood.
17th Feb '17 10:41:13 AM luiginumber3
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* FreudWasRight: Invoked. Julia theorizes that the Party keeps people in a state of warlike hysteria and power hunger though subjecting them to sexual deprivation. She even calls it "sex gone sour."

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* FreudWasRight: Invoked. Julia theorizes that the Party keeps people in a state of warlike hysteria and power hunger though by subjecting them to sexual deprivation. She even calls it "sex gone sour."



* AGodAmI: Collectivist variation. In Ingsoc's ideology, the Party ''is'' completely omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, existing at every point in space and time. O'Brien boasts that they, as the Party, are a collective RealityWarper that can distort and rewrite the past and even ''material reality'' itself, and everybody are forced to believe the absurdity lest they be tortured into believing it. 2+2=5 if the Party wants it. In George Orwell's own words:

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* AGodAmI: Collectivist variation. In Ingsoc's ideology, the Party ''is'' completely omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, existing at every point in space and time. O'Brien boasts that they, as the Party, are a collective RealityWarper that can distort and rewrite the past and even ''material reality'' itself, and everybody are everyone is forced to believe the absurdity lest they be tortured into believing it. 2+2=5 [[ArcWords Two plus two equals five]] if the Party wants it.it to. In George Orwell's own words:



* HeKnowsTooMuch: Syme, who gets purged because he fully understands the purpose of Newspeak is to eliminate the ability to articulate dissent, even though he is a fanatical devotee of Big Brother ''who finds this completely acceptable and right''. Really drives home the point how nobody is safe under totalitarianism.

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* HeKnowsTooMuch: Syme, who gets purged because he fully understands that the purpose of Newspeak is to eliminate the ability to articulate dissent, even though he is a fanatical devotee of Big Brother ''who finds this completely acceptable and right''. Really drives home the point how that nobody is safe under totalitarianism.



** The ideology of the Party is called Ingsoc (English Socialism), and yet the society it governs is really a dystopia with a strictly regimented class system based upon a subservient working class and a hierarchical, dictatorial system of rule. [[ShowWithinAShow Goldstein's book]], which describes the society, puts it rather baldly:

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** The ideology of the Party is called Ingsoc (English Socialism), and yet the society it governs is really a dystopia with a strictly regimented class system based upon a subservient working class and a hierarchical, dictatorial system of rule. [[ShowWithinAShow Goldstein's book]], which describes the society, puts it rather baldly:



** The premise of the book postulates an ongoing ForeverWar between three superpowers (Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia), the political ideologies of which are, respectively, Ingsoc, Neo-Bolshevism, and what roughly translates to Obliteration of the Self. To the extent that the citizens of each superpower are aware of the other superpowers' political ideologies, they deride them as monstrous outrages upon common sense. However, as Goldstein notes, the three ideologies are functionally indistinguishable, as are the societies they support.

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** The premise of the book postulates an ongoing ForeverWar between three superpowers (Oceania, superpowers, Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia), Eastasia, the political ideologies of which are, respectively, Ingsoc, Neo-Bolshevism, and what roughly translates to as Obliteration of the Self. To the extent that the citizens of each superpower are aware of the other superpowers' political ideologies, they deride them as monstrous outrages upon common sense. However, as Goldstein notes, the three ideologies are functionally indistinguishable, as are the societies they support.



** Winston's job is to receive reports of new articles that do not match the current party line, and to fix the mistakes or to write a new article as a replacement of the {{Unperson}}. He also notices the same being applied to announcements on telescreens, where some rations are cut back but still shown to be greater than last year.
** At one point during a rally, the Party, having always been at war with Eurasia, suddenly has always been at war with Eastasia. As in ''mid-speech'' (the speaker is handed a note with the change). And -- as Winston notes with horror -- his audience instantly goes along with it, because Big Brother is watching them and Big Brother is always right. The rally in question took ''tons'' of preparation, which involved creating banners damning Eurasia, among other propaganda. Once Eastasia has been named as the enemy, the crowd becomes aghast that their banners now falsely name Eurasia ''and believe Goldstein's heretical group is to blame for them being wrong''.

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** Winston's job is to receive reports of new articles that do not match the current party line, line and to fix the mistakes their "mistakes" or to write a new article as a replacement of the {{Unperson}}.articles to replace {{Unperson}}s. He also notices the same being applied to announcements on telescreens, where some rations are cut back but still shown to be greater than last year.
** At one point during a rally, the Party, having always been at war with Eurasia, suddenly has always been at war with Eastasia. As in ''mid-speech'' Eastasia, ''in mid-speech'' (the speaker is handed a note with the change). And -- as Winston notes with horror -- his the audience instantly goes along with it, because Big Brother is watching them and Big Brother is always right. it. The rally in question took ''tons'' of preparation, which involved including creating banners and propaganda damning Eurasia, among other propaganda. Once but once Eastasia has been named as the enemy, the crowd becomes aghast that their banners now falsely name Eurasia as the enemy ''and believe Goldstein's heretical group is to blame for them being wrong''.



* IronicEcho: "We shall meet again in the place where there is no darkness." It's a brightly-lit prison cell.

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* IronicEcho: One of the ArcWords lines, "We shall meet again in the place where there is no darkness." It's darkness," turns out to refer to a brightly-lit prison cell.



** The Ministry of Truth (the past is rewritten), The Ministry of Peace (in charge of the armed forces), The Ministry of Plenty (rationing to maintain PerpetualPoverty) and worst of all (on a personal basis) The Ministry of Love (torture and brainwashing).

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** The Ministry of Truth (the past is rewritten), The (rewriting the past), the Ministry of Peace (in charge of the (the armed forces), The the Ministry of Plenty (rationing to maintain PerpetualPoverty) and worst of all (on a personal basis) The the Ministry of Love (torture and brainwashing).
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