History Literature / MemoirsOfAGeisha

16th Jul '17 10:49:27 AM nombretomado
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* MayDecemberRomance: The Chairman is in his 40s when he first meets Sayuri when she is a pre-teen, and yet she pines for him. Likewise, Nobu has one-sided affection for Sayuri and is about the same age as the Chairman. In the novel, Chiyo and Satsu's mother is implied to be a lot younger than their father because he remarried after his first wife died. In fact, Sayuri's one night hook-up with Yasuda (who is in his 20s) when she is 19 and brief fling with a man during WW2 are some of the only examples that avert this trope.

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* MayDecemberRomance: The Chairman is in his 40s when he first meets Sayuri when she is a pre-teen, and yet she pines for him. Likewise, Nobu has one-sided affection for Sayuri and is about the same age as the Chairman. In the novel, Chiyo and Satsu's mother is implied to be a lot younger than their father because he remarried after his first wife died. In fact, Sayuri's one night hook-up with Yasuda (who is in his 20s) when she is 19 and brief fling with a man during WW2 [=WW2=] are some of the only examples that avert this trope.
3rd May '17 12:36:26 PM Noraneko
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[[note]] Arthur Golden caught a good deal of flak for naming his sources. As noted in the 'translator's note' prologue, geisha ''are'' expected to be discreet, regarding what they know and who they know it about, and about their own trade in general. One of Golden's primary sources, former Geisha Mineko Iwasaki, specifically asked to be kept anonymous, and Golden went and thanked her in the author's note anyway. She herself netted criticism (and even ''death threats'') for opening up in such a way, and eventually ended up publishing her actual memoirs, ''Geisha of Gion''. She also said that either Golden downright lied about the geishas and their lives for creative purposes, or [[ValuesDissonance showed experiences that were beneficial to Iwasaki and Co. in a negative light.]] [[/note]]

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[[note]] Arthur Golden caught a good deal of flak for naming his sources. As noted in the 'translator's note' prologue, geisha ''are'' expected to be discreet, regarding what they know and who they know it about, and about their own trade in general. One of Golden's primary sources, former Geisha Mineko Iwasaki, specifically asked to be kept anonymous, and Golden went and thanked her in the author's note anyway. She herself netted criticism (and even ''death threats'') for opening up in such a way, and eventually ended up publishing her actual memoirs, ''Geisha of Gion''. She also said that either Golden downright lied about the geishas and their lives for creative purposes, or [[ValuesDissonance showed experiences that were beneficial to Iwasaki and Co. in a negative light.]] Though some controversial details were not inaccurate, the fact that the novel was supposed to be based on her life thus made Iwasaki feel that she and others were watered down to being little more than prostitutes when her focus was always on art. [[/note]]



* TruthInTelevision: A maiko often did sell her virginity to the highest bidder as a coming-of-age ritual, though this was done very discreetly and tastefully, not like an auction. This was not necessarily required, as Iwasaki (who the book is based on) did not, which is why she got irritated when Golden made it seem inevitable.
** Some geisha did prostitute themselves to American soldiers, leading to the early American image of the "geisha girl," a cheapening and oversexualization of the geisha.



* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Let's just say that]] Golden took a ''lot'' of [[RuleOfDrama creative]] [[HollywoodHistory liberties]] with the story to turn it part-fairy tale, part-historical fiction. He based the story off interviews with famed geisha Mineko Iwasaki, though Iwasaki herself was never abused and willingly became a geisha out of true passion (her required separation from her doting parents, though voluntary, was still [[TearJerker no less heartbreaking]]), and unlike other meiko, never had to sell her virginity, her mizuage a purely symbolic ritual. She was also involved with an older, married man, but he ultimately passed away from cancer and she married a man her own age.

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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Let's just say that]] Golden took a ''lot'' of [[RuleOfDrama creative]] [[HollywoodHistory liberties]] with the story to turn it part-fairy tale, part-historical fiction. He based the story off interviews with famed geisha Mineko Iwasaki, though Iwasaki herself was never abused and willingly became a geisha out of true passion (her required separation from her doting parents, though voluntary, was still [[TearJerker no less heartbreaking]]), and unlike other meiko, maiko, never had to sell her virginity, her mizuage a purely symbolic ritual. She was also involved with an older, married man, but he ultimately passed away from cancer and she married a man her own age. Golden's artistic liberties caused an infamous amount of flak from Iwasaki, who was angered by the story's alleged preoccupation of sex that, being supposedly based on her life, inaccurately made her look like a prostitute.
3rd May '17 12:28:37 PM Noraneko
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* VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory: [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Let's just say that]] Golden took a ''lot'' of [[RuleOfDrama creative]] [[HollywoodHistory liberties]] with the story to turn it part-fairy tale, part-historical fiction. He based the story off interviews with famed geisha Mineko Iwasaki, though Iwasaki herself was never abused and willingly became a geisha out of true passion (her required separation from her doting parents, though voluntary, was still [[TearJerker no less heartbreaking]]), and unlike other meiko, never had to sell her virginity, her mizuage a purely symbolic ritual. She was also involved with an older, married man, but he ultimately passed away from cancer and she married a man her own age.
3rd May '17 12:16:37 PM Noraneko
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[[note]] Arthur Golden caught a good deal of flak for naming his sources. As noted in the 'translator's note' prologue, geisha ''are'' expected to be discreet, regarding what they know and who they know it about, and about their own trade in general. One of Golden's primary sources, former Geisha Mineko Iwasaki, specifically asked to be kept anonymous, and Golden went and thanked her in the author's note anyway. She herself netted criticism (and even ''death threats'') for opening up in such a way, and eventually ended up publishing her actual memoirs, ''Geisha of Gion''. She also said that either Golden downright lied about the geishas and their lives (specifically, the whole "Sayuri gets her virginity auctioned" was supposedly based on Iwasaki's experience, but she claims it never happened to her), or [[ValuesDissonance showed experiences that were beneficial to Iwasaki and Co. in a negative light.]] [[/note]]

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[[note]] Arthur Golden caught a good deal of flak for naming his sources. As noted in the 'translator's note' prologue, geisha ''are'' expected to be discreet, regarding what they know and who they know it about, and about their own trade in general. One of Golden's primary sources, former Geisha Mineko Iwasaki, specifically asked to be kept anonymous, and Golden went and thanked her in the author's note anyway. She herself netted criticism (and even ''death threats'') for opening up in such a way, and eventually ended up publishing her actual memoirs, ''Geisha of Gion''. She also said that either Golden downright lied about the geishas and their lives (specifically, the whole "Sayuri gets her virginity auctioned" was supposedly based on Iwasaki's experience, but she claims it never happened to her), for creative purposes, or [[ValuesDissonance showed experiences that were beneficial to Iwasaki and Co. in a negative light.]] [[/note]]



** In fact, the book was VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory by the life of the real geisha [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineko_Iwasaki Mineko Iwasaki]]. After ''Memoirs'' was published, Iwasaki lost friends, received criticism and even death threats. She got so upset at the author, Arthur Golden, that she sued him for breach of contract and defamation of character and then wrote her own book (Geisha of Gion) to counter all the fictionalization.

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** In fact, the book was VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory by the life of the real geisha [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineko_Iwasaki Mineko Iwasaki]]. After ''Memoirs'' was published, Iwasaki lost friends, received criticism and even death threats.threats, as geisha are supposed to treat their clients with the utmost confidentiality, and in putting her name in the book, Golden broke that confidentiality. She got so upset at the author, Arthur Golden, that she sued him for breach of contract and defamation of character and then wrote her own book (Geisha of Gion) to counter all the fictionalization.
3rd May '17 12:12:28 PM Noraneko
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* HollywoodHistory: The book is meant to be a fairy tale combined with historical fiction, complete with a beautiful rags-to-riches Cinderella, a mysterious Prince Charming, and a sort of wicked stepmother -- which would be fine, except the book gives the impression of being a biography and based on real life, though it's pure fiction and contains many inaccuracies and inconsistencies, making most casual readers with no background to real geisha believe that it's all 100% true, much to the chagrin of those with prior interest. The one most aficionados would name first is the auctioning of the virginity of maiko about to graduate as geiko.

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* HollywoodHistory: The book is meant to be a fairy tale combined with historical fiction, complete with a beautiful rags-to-riches Cinderella, a mysterious Prince Charming, and a sort of wicked stepmother -- which would be fine, except the book gives the impression of being a biography and based on real life, though it's pure fiction and contains many inaccuracies and inconsistencies, making most casual readers with no background to real geisha believe that it's all 100% true, much to the chagrin of those with prior interest. The one most aficionados would name first is the auctioning of the virginity of maiko about to graduate as geiko.[[labelnote:*]]Note that the selling of a maiko's virginity ''was'' practice at the time, but was done much more tastefully and discreetly, not at all like an auction as in the film. It was also not necessarily ubiquitous, as Iwesaki's mizuage was a symbolic ritual instead of a sale of her virginity.[[/labelnote]]
3rd May '17 10:59:11 AM Noraneko
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* HollywoodHistory: Despite how the book gives the impression of being a biography and based on real life, it's pure fiction and contains many inaccuracies and inconsistencies. The one most aficionados would name first is the auctioning of the virginity of maiko about to graduate as geiko.
** In fact, the book was "inspired" by the life of the real geisha [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineko_Iwasaki Mineko Iwasaki]]. After ''Memoirs'' was published, Iwasaki lost friends, received criticism and even death threats. She got so upset at the author, Arthur Golden, that she sued him for breach of contract and defamation of character and then wrote her own book (Geisha of Gion) to counter all the fictionalization.

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* HollywoodHistory: Despite how The book is meant to be a fairy tale combined with historical fiction, complete with a beautiful rags-to-riches Cinderella, a mysterious Prince Charming, and a sort of wicked stepmother -- which would be fine, except the book gives the impression of being a biography and based on real life, though it's pure fiction and contains many inaccuracies and inconsistencies.inconsistencies, making most casual readers with no background to real geisha believe that it's all 100% true, much to the chagrin of those with prior interest. The one most aficionados would name first is the auctioning of the virginity of maiko about to graduate as geiko.
** In fact, the book was "inspired" VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory by the life of the real geisha [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineko_Iwasaki Mineko Iwasaki]]. After ''Memoirs'' was published, Iwasaki lost friends, received criticism and even death threats. She got so upset at the author, Arthur Golden, that she sued him for breach of contract and defamation of character and then wrote her own book (Geisha of Gion) to counter all the fictionalization.
20th Mar '17 9:54:13 PM MercutioDreams
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* DistractedByTheSexy: There's a scene with the Mameha (Michelle Yeoh) teaching the protagonist, Sayuri (Zhang Zhiyi) that a true geisha can stop a man with her eyes. She demonstrates and then asks Sayuri to do so, which Sayuri does to a passer by riding a bicycle, causing him to crash.

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* DistractedByTheSexy: There's a scene with the Mameha (Michelle Yeoh) teaching the protagonist, Sayuri (Zhang Zhiyi) that a true geisha can stop a man with her eyes. She demonstrates and then asks Sayuri to do so, which Sayuri does to a passer by riding a bicycle, causing him to crash.
19th Jan '17 2:52:08 PM LupineMoon
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* EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep: The Chairman, the Baron, the General. The Chairman is an odd case, because Mameha ''does'' refer to him by his real name (Iwamura Ken) at one point but Sayuri, who's in love with him, does not. Pumpkin to. Though her geisha name is Hatsumiyo, everyone just calls her Pumpkin.

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* EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep: The Chairman, the Baron, the General. The Chairman is an odd case, because Mameha ''does'' refer to him by his real name (Iwamura Ken) at one point but Sayuri, who's in love with him, does not. Pumpkin to.too. Though her geisha name is Hatsumiyo, everyone just calls her Pumpkin.
22nd Dec '16 8:10:18 PM DelShiftB
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* BreakTheHaughty: Hatsumomo, and how.

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* BreakTheHaughty: Hatsumomo, who had her tactics gradually turned against her. She eventually became violent to her clients, causing her to be thrown out of the okiya and how.never seen again (not even as a prostitute).
13th Dec '16 8:32:53 AM Doug86
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''Memoirs of a Geisha'' is an 1997 novel by Arthur Golden -- later [[TheFilmOfTheBook adapted into a 2005 film]] -- about the life of a famous {{geisha}}, Sayuri (formerly Chiyo), who was sold to a geisha house by her father at a young age to be trained in the profession. One day, she meets a man who becomes her main motivation to pursue a career as a geisha, although she soon starts to realize that he is unobtainable. Meanwhile, Sayuri becomes a pawn in an intrigue between two of the most successful geisha in the district. The plot is set in UsefulNotes/{{Kyoto}}, mainly in the decades around the [[WorldWarII Second World War]].

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''Memoirs of a Geisha'' is an 1997 novel by Arthur Golden -- later [[TheFilmOfTheBook adapted into a 2005 film]] -- about the life of a famous {{geisha}}, Sayuri (formerly Chiyo), who was sold to a geisha house by her father at a young age to be trained in the profession. One day, she meets a man who becomes her main motivation to pursue a career as a geisha, although she soon starts to realize that he is unobtainable. Meanwhile, Sayuri becomes a pawn in an intrigue between two of the most successful geisha in the district. The plot is set in UsefulNotes/{{Kyoto}}, mainly in the decades around the [[WorldWarII [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII Second World War]].
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