History Literature / Mahabharata

15th Sep '16 12:13:27 PM NightOracle
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*** The rivalry of Arjuna and Karna has parallels with the rivalry of Surya (the Sun god) and Indra (the god who wields thunder and the supreme god) in Hindu mythology. Indra triumphs just like Arjuna does.

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*** The rivalry of Arjuna and Karna has parallels with the rivalry of Surya (the Sun god) and Indra (the god who wields thunder and the supreme god) in Hindu mythology. Indra triumphs just like Arjuna does. But at the same time, the masses revere and love Surya (who is also the god of physicians and a god of learning) and Karna (the most generous man in Hindu mythology and often considered to be the main hero, despite it focusing on the Pandavas) than Indra, who is more often feared, and Arjuna, who to be honest, is a Jerkass for most of the story. Basically, AlternateCharacterInterpretation folks.
15th Sep '16 11:58:52 AM NightOracle
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** There's a story that Karna was playing a game once with Duryodhana's wife, and she was losing badly. When she saw her husband coming, she stood up to greet him. Thinking she was running away to avoid admitting defeat, he playfully grabbed her and they ended up wrestling into a very... awkward position, with her necklace of pearls snapping and flying everywhere. Instead of thinking the worst or flying into a temper as others would have, he simply asked, "Do you want to me to just pick up the pearls, or should I string them together as well?" He trustem both of them to know nothing happenned
** Another example (twofold actually) was after Karna's death. Duryodhana had not shed a single tear upon the deaths of his brothers and sons but broke down completely when he learned Karna had been killed. And he said that had he known that Karna was not just his best friend, [[ spoiler: but his older brother]], he would have happily given the throne to him and served him faithfully, something that he would never have done for Yuddhistra.

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** There's a story that Karna was playing a game once with Duryodhana's wife, and she was losing badly. When she saw her husband coming, she stood up to greet him. Thinking she was running away to avoid admitting defeat, he playfully grabbed her and they ended up wrestling into a very... awkward position, with her necklace of pearls snapping and flying everywhere. Instead of thinking the worst or flying into a temper as others would have, he simply asked, "Do you want to me to just pick up the pearls, or should I string them together as well?" He trustem trusted both of them to know nothing happenned
** Another example (twofold actually) was after Karna's death. Duryodhana had not shed a single tear upon the deaths of his brothers and sons but broke down completely when he learned Karna had been killed. And he said that had he known that Karna was not just his best friend, [[ spoiler: [[spoiler: but his older brother]], he would have happily given the throne to him and served him faithfully, something that he would never have done for Yuddhistra.
15th Sep '16 11:57:25 AM NightOracle
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** There's a story that Karna was playing a game once with Duryodhana's wife, and she was losing badly. When she saw her husband coming, she stood up to greet him. Thinking she was running away to avoid admitting defeat, he playfully grabbed her and they ended up wrestling into a very... awkward position, with her necklace of pearls snapping and flying everywhere. Instead of thinking the worst or flying into a temper as others would have, he simply asked, "Do you want to me to just pick up the pearls, or should I string them together as well?"
** Another example (twofold actually) was after Karna's death. Duryodhana had not shed a single tear upon the deaths of his brothers and sons but broke down completely when he learned Karna had been killed. And he said that had he known that Karna was not just his best friend, but his older brother, he would have happily given the throne to him and served him faithfully, something that he would never have done for Yuddhistra.

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** There's a story that Karna was playing a game once with Duryodhana's wife, and she was losing badly. When she saw her husband coming, she stood up to greet him. Thinking she was running away to avoid admitting defeat, he playfully grabbed her and they ended up wrestling into a very... awkward position, with her necklace of pearls snapping and flying everywhere. Instead of thinking the worst or flying into a temper as others would have, he simply asked, "Do you want to me to just pick up the pearls, or should I string them together as well?"
well?" He trustem both of them to know nothing happenned
** Another example (twofold actually) was after Karna's death. Duryodhana had not shed a single tear upon the deaths of his brothers and sons but broke down completely when he learned Karna had been killed. And he said that had he known that Karna was not just his best friend, [[ spoiler: but his older brother, brother]], he would have happily given the throne to him and served him faithfully, something that he would never have done for Yuddhistra.
15th Sep '16 11:53:45 AM NightOracle
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* Undying Loyalty: Karna ought to be the saint of this trope. Even after being told the Pandavas are his brothers, being offered the throne and every other birthright he had been denied, and knowing that much of what Duryodhana does is wrong, Karna still supports him because Duryodhana stood by his side when no one else did. This isn't a one way street either:

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* Undying Loyalty: UndyingLoyalty: Karna ought to be the saint of this trope. Even after being told the Pandavas are his brothers, being offered the throne and every other birthright he had been denied, and knowing that much of what Duryodhana does is wrong, Karna still supports him because Duryodhana stood by his side when no one else did. This isn't a one way street either:
15th Sep '16 11:52:18 AM NightOracle
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* Undying Loyalty: Karna ought to be the saint of this trope. Even after being told the Pandavas are his brothers, being offered the throne and every other birthright he had been denied, and knowing that much of what Duryodhana does is wrong, Karna still supports him because Duryodhana stood by his side when no one else did. This isn't a one way street either:
** There's a story that Karna was playing a game once with Duryodhana's wife, and she was losing badly. When she saw her husband coming, she stood up to greet him. Thinking she was running away to avoid admitting defeat, he playfully grabbed her and they ended up wrestling into a very... awkward position, with her necklace of pearls snapping and flying everywhere. Instead of thinking the worst or flying into a temper as others would have, he simply asked, "Do you want to me to just pick up the pearls, or should I string them together as well?"
** Another example (twofold actually) was after Karna's death. Duryodhana had not shed a single tear upon the deaths of his brothers and sons but broke down completely when he learned Karna had been killed. And he said that had he known that Karna was not just his best friend, but his older brother, he would have happily given the throne to him and served him faithfully, something that he would never have done for Yuddhistra.
10th Sep '16 1:49:34 AM Morgenthaler
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* {{Bowdlerization}}: The [[UsefulNotes/{{Indonesia}} Javanese]] version removes some of the more {{squick}}tastic elements of the original, such as Draupadi being the wife of all five Pandavas. In it, she is Yudhisthira's (and only Yudhisthira's) wife. Probably something to do with the spread of {{Islam}}.

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* {{Bowdlerization}}: The [[UsefulNotes/{{Indonesia}} Javanese]] version removes some of the more {{squick}}tastic elements of the original, such as Draupadi being the wife of all five Pandavas. In it, she is Yudhisthira's (and only Yudhisthira's) wife. Probably something to do with the spread of {{Islam}}.UsefulNotes/{{Islam}}.
20th Aug '16 10:13:04 PM Jayalaw
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** Several Arjuna tales outside of the war have him suffer this; in one case he claims that a bridge of arrows that he builds would withstand a monkey's weight (Hanuman in disguise) and nearly burns himself when he fails.



* ChickMagnet: Krishna, UpToEleven.



* {{Cosmic Plaything}}s: Everyone in this Epic without exception.
* CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot: Krishna does all that he can to prevent a war between the Pandavas and Kauravas by serving as an emissary. Even so, Gandhari points out that he could have stopped it outright by using his full powers as an avatar and curses him for not doing that when the war is over and no one has truly won.



* ChickMagnet: Krishna, UpToEleven.
* {{Cosmic Plaything}}s: Everyone in this Epic without exception.
4th Jul '16 9:46:03 AM Morgenthaler
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* WillNotTellALie: Yuddhistira was renowned for his honesty and his resolve in never telling a lie. Krishna figures out that the only way to kill Drona, their ObiWan teacher, who was fighting on Duryodhana's side, was to state falsely that his son Aswatamma died. Bhima killed an elephant named Aswatamma and proclaimed loudly that he killed Aswatamma. Not believing him, Drona turned to Yuddhistira. Yuddhistira at that time lied, saying that Aswatamma, the elephant died, whispering the word elephant. This led to Drona losing heart and his subsequent death. Yudhistira's chariot that floated an inch above the ground as a sign of his godly nature fell back to earth.

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* WillNotTellALie: Yuddhistira was renowned for his honesty and his resolve in never telling a lie. Krishna figures out that the only way to kill Drona, their ObiWan teacher, who was fighting on Duryodhana's side, was to state falsely that his son Aswatamma died. Bhima killed an elephant named Aswatamma and proclaimed loudly that he killed Aswatamma. Not believing him, Drona turned to Yuddhistira. Yuddhistira at that time lied, saying that Aswatamma, the elephant died, whispering the word elephant. This led to Drona losing heart and his subsequent death. Yudhistira's chariot that floated an inch above the ground as a sign of his godly nature fell back to earth.
2nd Jun '16 4:36:48 AM X789
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* AttemptedRape: Kichaka attempts to rape Draupadi in the Matsya Kingdom. Jayadatha attempts to rape Draupadi as well when she is exiled in the forest. After the dice game incident, Duryodhana, Karna, and Dushasana try to rape her in front of their royal court...and her husbands

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* AttemptedRape: Kichaka attempts to rape Draupadi in the Matsya Kingdom. Jayadatha attempts to rape Draupadi as well when she is exiled in the forest. After the dice game incident, Duryodhana, Karna, and Dushasana try to rape her in front of their royal court...and her husbands
3rd May '16 10:41:21 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* MosesInTheBullRushes - [[TheDragon Karna]] is actually the son of the unwed Kunti. He is set afloat in the river with armor and earrings that make him immortal.

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* MosesInTheBullRushes MosesInTheBulrushes - [[TheDragon Karna]] is actually the son of the unwed Kunti. He is set afloat in the river with armor and earrings that make him immortal.
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