History Literature / LilithsBrood

21st Nov '17 7:03:05 AM WaterBlap
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* MindRape: Of a sort. Lilith mentions in a later book that if someone goes through the transformation stages of an Ooloi with them, they ''can't'' choose to leave them afterward.
* NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization: Since the Oankali read body language, pheremones, and other physiological things, they can "understand" what humans "want" even though said humans have not actually explained what they wanted.



* RapeAsDrama: The Oankali are essentially raping humanity, and a lot of the humans don't take kindly to this.



* SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes: The Oankali are essentially raping humanity[[note]]they even use the "your mouth said no, but your body said yes" rationale, which may or may not hold water considering their whole ''thing'' is reading body language, pheremones, and other physiological things like humans would have a in-depth conversation[[/note]], so this goes through a few of them:
** RapeAsDrama: A lot of the humans don't take kindly to the treatment
** RapeIsLove: And some do...
** NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization: Partly because the physical sensations are mindblowing.
** MindRape: Of a sort. Lilith mentions in a later book that if someone goes through the transformation stages of an Ooloi with them, they ''can't'' choose to leave them afterward.
** AliensMadeThemDoIt: ...with the aliens.
** RapePortrayedAsRedemption: Depending on how you look at it, for the whole human species.
11th Jul '17 6:22:14 AM tesseract732
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* BlueAndOrangeMorality: The Oankali are peaceful vegetarians who either don't understand or don't care what's wrong with rape.
7th Sep '16 1:04:46 AM PaulA
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''Lilith's Brood'', by OctaviaButler, previously published as ''Xenogenesis'', is the compilation of three novels. The first in the series follows Lilith after she awakens to her new world, while the sequels are told from the point of view of her genetically altered children.

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''Lilith's Brood'', by OctaviaButler, Creator/OctaviaButler, previously published as ''Xenogenesis'', is the compilation of three novels. The first in the series follows Lilith after she awakens to her new world, while the sequels are told from the point of view of her genetically altered children.
5th Sep '15 2:49:17 AM CygnusArcana
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* FaceFullOfAlienWingWong: The Oankali solution to humanity's "flaw".[[note]]The ooloi take all the DNA samples of the parents and build fetuses without the flaw (or any flaws, really) of hierarchies and sentience.[[/note]]

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* FaceFullOfAlienWingWong: The Oankali solution to humanity's "flaw".[[note]]The ooloi take all the DNA samples of the parents and build fetuses without the flaw (or any flaws, really) of hierarchies and sentience.hierarchies.[[/note]]
17th Jun '14 10:04:56 AM Shieldage
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* ActuallyIAmHim: Sort of. In the second book, Lilith introduces herself to a human who had run away from the Oankali. He remarks that she has an unfortunate name, since it's the same as the woman who betrayed humanity by allying with the Oankali, before she explains she ''is'' that woman.

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* ActuallyIAmHim: Sort of. [[ActuallyIAmHim Actually I Am Her]]: In the second book, Lilith introduces herself to a human who had run away from the Oankali. He remarks that she has an unfortunate name, since it's the same as the woman who betrayed humanity by allying with the Oankali, before she explains she ''is'' that woman.
14th Jun '14 4:39:47 PM WaterBlap
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* NaughtyTentacles: The Ooloi's extra 'arms' are used in reproduction.
27th Jan '14 8:55:47 AM WilliamSyler
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* SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes: The Oankali are essentially raping humanity[[note]]they even use the "your mouth said no, but your body said yes" rationale, which may or may not hold water considering their whole ''thing'' is reading body language, pheremones, and other physiological things like humans would read a book[[/note]], so this goes through a few of them:

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* SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes: The Oankali are essentially raping humanity[[note]]they even use the "your mouth said no, but your body said yes" rationale, which may or may not hold water considering their whole ''thing'' is reading body language, pheremones, and other physiological things like humans would read have a book[[/note]], in-depth conversation[[/note]], so this goes through a few of them:
27th Jan '14 8:53:40 AM WilliamSyler
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* BrotherSisterIncest: The default and ideal mating group ("coupling" is inaccurate by 33%, as explained above) for Oankali is a brother and sister plus an ooloi from a different family. They tend to encourage these...family values in humans, which means that hybrid families involve TWO EACH of males and females, plus ooloi.

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* BrotherSisterIncest: The default and ideal mating group ("coupling" is inaccurate by 33%, as explained above) for Oankali is a brother and sister plus an ooloi from a different family.family[[note]]It's helpful to know that the ooloi are living gene manipulators, and as long as they don't get complacent with genes they know (hence them being from a different family), they prevent the negative genetic aspects of incest[[/note]]. They tend to encourage these...family values in humans, which means that hybrid families involve TWO EACH of males and females, plus ooloi.



* EarthShatteringKaboom: [[spoiler: Turns out the Oankali aren't that nice after all - they're basically strip-mining Earth to make more spaceships, hence they can't just let a society of fertile humans alone]].
* FaceFullOfAlienWingWong: The Oankali solution to humanity's "flaw".

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* EarthShatteringKaboom: [[spoiler: Turns out the Oankali aren't that nice after all - they're basically strip-mining Earth to make more spaceships, spaceships because of their drive to genetically merge with other species, hence they can't just let a society of fertile humans alone]].
* FaceFullOfAlienWingWong: The Oankali solution to humanity's "flaw".[[note]]The ooloi take all the DNA samples of the parents and build fetuses without the flaw (or any flaws, really) of hierarchies and sentience.[[/note]]



* InYourNatureToDestroyYourselves: The Oankali believe that humanity is doomed to destroy itself because of its contradictory traits - intelligence and hierarchical social structures.[[note]]Indeed, Oankali and their hybrid descendants can ''see'' this contradiction. A hybrid who argues for permitting a pure-human settlement on Mars does so knowing that the settlement ''must'', inevitably, destroy itself.[[/note]] The only solution is to correct it by breeding with the Oankali, removing the hierarchical instincts.

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* InYourNatureToDestroyYourselves: The Oankali believe that humanity is doomed to destroy itself because of its contradictory traits - intelligence and hierarchical social structures.[[note]]Indeed, Oankali and their hybrid descendants can ''see'' this contradiction. A hybrid who argues for permitting a pure-human settlement on Mars does so knowing that the settlement ''must'', inevitably, destroy itself.[[/note]] The only solution is to correct it by breeding with the Oankali, removing the hierarchical instincts.instincts by genetic manipulation of the next generation.



* ItsWhatIDo: The Oankali in regard to interbreeding and genetic manipulation. It's just something they're as compelled to do as humans are to breathing.

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* ItsWhatIDo: The Oankali in regard to interbreeding and interbreeding, genetic manipulation.manipulation, and space travel. It's just something they're as compelled to do as humans are to breathing.
25th Sep '13 11:13:28 AM SeptimusHeap
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* SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes: The Oankali are essentially raping humanity[[hottip:+:they even use the "your mouth said no, but your body said yes" rationale, which may or may not hold water considering their whole ''thing'' is reading body language, pheremones, and other physiological things like humans would read a book]], so this goes through a few of them:

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* SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes: The Oankali are essentially raping humanity[[hottip:+:they humanity[[note]]they even use the "your mouth said no, but your body said yes" rationale, which may or may not hold water considering their whole ''thing'' is reading body language, pheremones, and other physiological things like humans would read a book]], book[[/note]], so this goes through a few of them:
4th Aug '13 10:43:38 PM Korodzik
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* InYourNatureToDestroyYourselves: The Oankali believe that humanity is doomed to destroy itself because of its contradictory traits - intelligence and hierarchical social structures.[[hottip:*: Indeed, Oankali and their hybrid descendants can ''see'' this contradiction. A hybrid who argues for permitting a pure-human settlement on Mars does so knowing that the settlement ''must'', inevitably, destroy itself.]] The only solution is to correct it by breeding with the Oankali, removing the hierarchical instincts.

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* InYourNatureToDestroyYourselves: The Oankali believe that humanity is doomed to destroy itself because of its contradictory traits - intelligence and hierarchical social structures.[[hottip:*: Indeed, [[note]]Indeed, Oankali and their hybrid descendants can ''see'' this contradiction. A hybrid who argues for permitting a pure-human settlement on Mars does so knowing that the settlement ''must'', inevitably, destroy itself.]] [[/note]] The only solution is to correct it by breeding with the Oankali, removing the hierarchical instincts.
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