History Literature / CoDominium

17th Sep '17 11:18:51 AM nombretomado
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** The motto of the [=CoDominium=] Armed Forces is "Peace is Our Profession", the same as [[PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower the USAF's Strategic Air Command]].

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** The motto of the [=CoDominium=] Armed Forces is "Peace is Our Profession", the same as [[PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower [[UsefulNotes/PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower the USAF's Strategic Air Command]].
15th Apr '17 1:09:15 PM nombretomado
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* ''Prince of Mercenaries'', ''Go Tell the Spartans'', and ''Prince of Sparta'', co-written with SMStirling. Written some decades after the original ''Falkenberg's Legion'' stories, but still involve the Legion and intertwine with the earlier novel. It tells of the story of planet Sparta dealing with a violent revolution.

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* ''Prince of Mercenaries'', ''Go Tell the Spartans'', and ''Prince of Sparta'', co-written with SMStirling.Creator/SMStirling. Written some decades after the original ''Falkenberg's Legion'' stories, but still involve the Legion and intertwine with the earlier novel. It tells of the story of planet Sparta dealing with a violent revolution.
13th Dec '16 1:55:24 PM Xtifr
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The ''[=CoDominium=]'' series is the brain child of SciFi author Jerry Pournelle. The first books were written in the Seventies and set TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, now [[ScienceMarchesOn Science and Time have marched on]] rendering the setting AlternateHistory. The premise of the series is that the United States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics join together to form the [=CoDominium=] (CD), dominate the planet, and colonize space. The stories follow the events afterwards.

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The ''[=CoDominium=]'' series is the brain child of SciFi author Jerry Pournelle.Creator/JerryPournelle. The first books were written in the Seventies and set TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, now [[ScienceMarchesOn Science and Time have marched on]] rendering the setting AlternateHistory. The premise of the series is that the United States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics join together to form the [=CoDominium=] (CD), dominate the planet, and colonize space. The stories follow the events afterwards.
3rd Dec '16 2:18:36 PM lakingsif
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** Then there was the little reenactment of the Odessa Steps sequence in ''The Mercenary'', and of the suppression of the Nika ('Victory') riots in Constantinople under the Byzantine Emperor Justinian in 532.

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** Then there was the little reenactment of the Odessa Steps OdessaSteps sequence in ''The Mercenary'', and of the suppression of the Nika ('Victory') riots in Constantinople under the Byzantine Emperor Justinian in 532.
25th Nov '16 1:03:34 AM PaulA
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** Then there was the little reenactment of the Odessa Steps sequence in ''The Mercenary'', and of the suppression of the Nika ('Victory') riots in Constantinople under the Byzantine Emperor Justinian in 532. DavidDrake used that same incident in a sci-fi novella, and in an alternate history of that time period.

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** Then there was the little reenactment of the Odessa Steps sequence in ''The Mercenary'', and of the suppression of the Nika ('Victory') riots in Constantinople under the Byzantine Emperor Justinian in 532. DavidDrake used that same incident in a sci-fi novella, and in an alternate history of that time period.
28th Oct '16 3:22:10 PM dlchen145
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* {{BadAss}}: ColonelBadass John Christian Falkenberg in the Legion books, Nathan [=MacKinnie=] in ''King David's Spaceship''.
** Also Sergeant Major Calvin as SergeantRock.
** Several characters in ''King David's Spaceship'' are badasses who literally get medieval on their enemies.
16th Jul '16 12:31:10 PM nombretomado
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!!!The CoDominium Era

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!!!The CoDominium [=CoDominium=] Era



* AuthorFilibuster: Like much of Pournelle's work, the CoDominium stories get rather {{Anvilicious}} in dishing up his social and political ideas.

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* AuthorFilibuster: Like much of Pournelle's work, the CoDominium [=CoDominium=] stories get rather {{Anvilicious}} in dishing up his social and political ideas.



If you're wondering exactly why anyone ''chose'' to live here? Most ''didn't'' - they were ''[[SentencedToDownUnder deported]]'' there by the CoDominium - and as even bureaucrats had enough heart not to send hippies to hell, most of those deportees were violent criminals. The only people who came there with technology was a PathOfInspiration kooky enough to ''pay'' to come.\\

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If you're wondering exactly why anyone ''chose'' to live here? Most ''didn't'' - they were ''[[SentencedToDownUnder deported]]'' there by the CoDominium [=CoDominium=] - and as even bureaucrats had enough heart not to send hippies to hell, most of those deportees were violent criminals. The only people who came there with technology was a PathOfInspiration kooky enough to ''pay'' to come.\\



* FantasticShipPRefix: [=CoDominium=] ships have the prefix CDS (CoDominium Ship)

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* FantasticShipPRefix: [=CoDominium=] ships have the prefix CDS (CoDominium ([=CoDominium=] Ship)



* GalacticSuperpower: First the CoDominium, then the Empires.

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* GalacticSuperpower: First the CoDominium, [=CoDominium=], then the Empires.



* SchizoTech: Justified by a century-long period of ModernStasis following the creation of FasterThanLightTravel, due to every politician in the CoDominium being either an ObstructiveBureaucrat, a StrawmanPolitical or a WellIntentionedExtremist; the only way all these megalomaniacs could agree not to start WorldWarIII was to agree not to develop weapons technology any further, which meant not developing ''anything'', and trashing all the libraries so nobody could build better weapons by MacGyvering. They then proceeded to deport millions of people every year to every marginally habitable world they could find, often with little more than the clothes on their backs. The result is a smorgasbord of Schizo Tech. CasualInterstellarTravel, but [[FamilyFriendlyFirearms no lasers]]. Hand-held anti-satellite weaponry stored next to bolt-action rifles. Spaceports with horse troughs. Pournelle's [[TheVerse 'Verse]] never actually recovered from the whole mess; a thousand years later, every SpaceMarine thinks [[TechMarchesOn PDAs are state-of-the-art]].

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* SchizoTech: Justified by a century-long period of ModernStasis following the creation of FasterThanLightTravel, due to every politician in the CoDominium [=CoDominium=] being either an ObstructiveBureaucrat, a StrawmanPolitical or a WellIntentionedExtremist; the only way all these megalomaniacs could agree not to start WorldWarIII was to agree not to develop weapons technology any further, which meant not developing ''anything'', and trashing all the libraries so nobody could build better weapons by MacGyvering. They then proceeded to deport millions of people every year to every marginally habitable world they could find, often with little more than the clothes on their backs. The result is a smorgasbord of Schizo Tech. CasualInterstellarTravel, but [[FamilyFriendlyFirearms no lasers]]. Hand-held anti-satellite weaponry stored next to bolt-action rifles. Spaceports with horse troughs. Pournelle's [[TheVerse 'Verse]] never actually recovered from the whole mess; a thousand years later, every SpaceMarine thinks [[TechMarchesOn PDAs are state-of-the-art]].



** Grand Senator Bronson. Determined to dominate the CoDominium and whatever arises after it tears itself apart as well as to utterly destroy all he regards as his enemies, and a very evil man. Nevertheless, he is shown to hate the hell that the CoDominium has created, and is working towards the same end as his enemies: the survival of human civilization. Pournelle's AuthorAvatar [[WordofGod spells this out]] in ''Prince of Sparta''.
** On the heroic side, there is John Grant, Director of the CIA who, in ''Mercenary'', to keep the CoDominium (and with it, human civilization) alive as long as possible, [[spoiler: destroys the campaign of presidential candidate Harvey Bertram (whose victory would, he believes, lead to WorldWarIII), by framing some of his supporters for giving nuclear weapons to Japanese nationalists. He then exiles his daughter offworld to cover up his actions]].
** From the same book, U.S. presidential candidates Harmon and Harvery Bertram. Harmon is a rabid right-winger who sees the CoDominium as making the United States a partner in Communist oppression and wants to pull the U.S. out, risk of nuclear war be damned, emphasizes the "extremist" part. Harvey Bertram, a libertarian idealist who wants to restore the liberties that participation in the CoDominium cost the United States, meanwhile, emphasizes the "well intentioned" part. Victory by either man would lead to WorldWarIII.

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** Grand Senator Bronson. Determined to dominate the CoDominium [=CoDominium=] and whatever arises after it tears itself apart as well as to utterly destroy all he regards as his enemies, and a very evil man. Nevertheless, he is shown to hate the hell that the CoDominium [=CoDominium=] has created, and is working towards the same end as his enemies: the survival of human civilization. Pournelle's AuthorAvatar [[WordofGod spells this out]] in ''Prince of Sparta''.
** On the heroic side, there is John Grant, Director of the CIA who, in ''Mercenary'', to keep the CoDominium [=CoDominium=] (and with it, human civilization) alive as long as possible, [[spoiler: destroys the campaign of presidential candidate Harvey Bertram (whose victory would, he believes, lead to WorldWarIII), by framing some of his supporters for giving nuclear weapons to Japanese nationalists. He then exiles his daughter offworld to cover up his actions]].
** From the same book, U.S. presidential candidates Harmon and Harvery Bertram. Harmon is a rabid right-winger who sees the CoDominium [=CoDominium=] as making the United States a partner in Communist oppression and wants to pull the U.S. out, risk of nuclear war be damned, emphasizes the "extremist" part. Harvey Bertram, a libertarian idealist who wants to restore the liberties that participation in the CoDominium [=CoDominium=] cost the United States, meanwhile, emphasizes the "well intentioned" part. Victory by either man would lead to WorldWarIII.
6th May '16 11:58:49 AM Mjolnir13621
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** Falkenberg's Legion in numerous instances.
27th Feb '16 6:49:37 AM HiddenWindshield
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At first things seem to go smoothly, Earth is dominated by a one hundred year era of relative peace, and interstellar travel and colonization is developed. However, this peaceful era comes with a price tag attached to it, namely [[ModernStasis a complete halt in scientific research and development; not to mention political evolution.]] Eventually it collapses under its own weight, as both the United States and the USSR both hate each others guts still despite [[EnemyMine technically being allies]]. At the end, [[WorldWarIII large numbers of nuclear-tipped birds fly]], many launched down from orbit, and Earth is devastated. Even a millennium later, the devastation could still be seen.

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At first things seem to go smoothly, Earth is dominated by a one hundred year era of relative peace, and interstellar travel and colonization is developed. However, this peaceful era comes with a price tag attached to it, namely [[ModernStasis a complete halt in scientific research and development; not to mention political evolution.]] Eventually it collapses under its own weight, as both the United States and the USSR both still hate each others other's guts still despite [[EnemyMine technically being allies]]. At the end, [[WorldWarIII large numbers of nuclear-tipped birds fly]], many launched down from orbit, and Earth is devastated. Even a millennium later, the devastation could still be seen.
18th Jan '16 1:38:43 AM Dasher
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** And [[http://community.fortunecity.ws/tattooine/heinlein/326/CoDominium/haven.htm Haven]], the setting of the ''War World'' series, is essentially a thought experiment between him and Creator/LarryNiven summed up as, "Under [[MundaneDogmatic Mundane Dogma]], exactly how horrible can we make a planet where humans can breathe the air?". Here's what they came up with:\\

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** And [[http://community.fortunecity.ws/tattooine/heinlein/326/CoDominium/haven.htm Haven]], the setting of the ''War World'' series, is essentially a thought experiment between him him, Creator John F. Carr and Creator/LarryNiven contributors Roland Green and Don Hawthorne summed up as, "Under [[MundaneDogmatic Mundane Dogma]], exactly how horrible can we make a planet where humans can breathe the air?". Here's what they came up with:\\
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