History Literature / CharlottesWeb

2nd Apr '16 1:35:21 PM mlsmithca
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* AnnoyingYoungerSibling: Avery, Fern's rather obnoxious but still good-hearted brother, He tries to catch Charlotte for his collection only to be stopped by the rotten egg breaking.
** In the book and the 1973 film Avery is actually ''older'' than Fern, though in the 2006 film he's younger.

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* AnnoyingYoungerSibling: Avery, Fern's rather obnoxious but still good-hearted brother, He tries to catch Charlotte for his collection only to be stopped by the rotten egg breaking. \n** In the book and the 1973 film Avery is actually ''older'' than Fern, though in the 2006 film he's younger.



* BabiesEverAfter: Although Charlotte dies and most of her offspring leave the farm, three of her daughters remain. And (in the 2000s film) found a whole dynasty of barn spiders.
** Also, the ending of the 1973 film brings a host of new babies to the farm animals -- even [[spoiler:Templeton]].
* BalloonBelly: Templeton, seen in both the original novel's Garth Williams illustrations, and (to even greater excess) in both the animated & live action versions.
* BigEater / ExtremeOmnivore: Templeton, again! Man, oh, man!
** Especially since [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A0l-eBK9KE a fair is a veritable smorgasbord-orgasbord-orgasbord]].

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* BabiesEverAfter: Although Charlotte dies and most of her offspring leave the farm, three of her daughters remain. And (in the 2000s film) found a whole dynasty of barn spiders.
**
spiders. Also, the ending of the 1973 film brings a host of new babies to the farm animals -- even [[spoiler:Templeton]].
* BalloonBelly: Templeton, seen in both the original novel's Garth Williams illustrations, and (to even greater excess) in both the animated & and live action versions.
* BigEater / ExtremeOmnivore: BigEater: Templeton, again! Man, oh, man!
**
man! Especially since [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A0l-eBK9KE a fair is a veritable smorgasbord-orgasbord-orgasbord]].



* ButtMonkey[=/=]TheChewToy: Lurvy, The Zuckerman's farm assistant is ''very'' clumsy

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* ButtMonkey[=/=]TheChewToy: ButtMonkey: Lurvy, The Zuckerman's the Zuckermans' farm assistant is ''very'' clumsyclumsy.



* CrowsAndRavens; in the live action film; two dumb crows Elwyn & Brooks serve as the main obstacle for Templeton getting the words--twice.
** While Templeton is visiting the junkyard to look for a word for Wilbur, Brooks and Elwyn swoop down to attack Templeton. Luckily, Templeton lured the two crows into a trap causing them to crash into some sand and pink paint and they vow revenge.
** Later on, while Templeton was having a good time at the county fair, Brooks and Elwyn went for revenge on the rat. Templeton jumped into a corn-like game machine and tricked the crows by getting trapped by a net.

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* CrowsAndRavens; in CrowsAndRavens: In the live action film; film, two dumb crows crows, Elwyn & Brooks and Brooksm serve as the main obstacle for Templeton getting the words--twice.
words--twice.
** While Templeton is visiting the junkyard to look for a word for Wilbur, Brooks and Elwyn swoop down to attack Templeton. him. Luckily, Templeton lured lures the two crows into a trap trap, causing them to crash into some sand and pink paint paint, and they vow revenge.
** Later on, while Templeton was having a good time at the county fair, Brooks and Elwyn went go for revenge on the rat. Templeton jumped jumps into a corn-like game machine and tricked tricks the crows by getting trapped by a net.



* DemotedToExtra: Henry Fussy, Fern's boyfriend, a supporting character in the book & the 73 film only gets a couple of cameos in the 2006 film. He is an avid photographer mostly takes pictures of Fern with Wilbur. Later at the fair when he rides the Ferris Wheel with Fern.
** Some deleted scenes for the live action DVD actually expanded Henry's role a bit more.

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* DemotedToExtra: Henry Fussy, Fern's boyfriend, a supporting character in the book & and the 73 film 1973 film, only gets a couple of cameos in the 2006 film. He is an avid photographer who mostly takes pictures of Fern with Wilbur. Later at the fair when fair, he rides the Ferris Wheel with Fern.
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Fern. Some deleted scenes for the live action DVD actually expanded Henry's role a bit more.



* GassHole: in the live action film, one of the cows has a problem with flatulence. Special mention is when she farts on Templeton
-->'''Betsy''': Did you get him?\\
'''Bitsy''': Yep! ''Bullseye''
** Also when Templeton carries away the rotten goose egg
-->'''Betsy''': Don't you break that egg, rat!\\

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* GassHole: in In the live action film, one of the cows has a problem with flatulence. flatulence.
**
Special mention is when she farts on Templeton
-->'''Betsy''':
Templeton.
--->'''Betsy''':
Did you get him?\\
'''Bitsy''': Yep! ''Bullseye''
''Bullseye''!
** Also when Templeton carries away the rotten goose egg
-->'''Betsy''':
egg:
--->'''Betsy''':
Don't you break that egg, rat!\\



* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: Children learn in the book that people will believe ''anything'' they see in print. A subtle satirical AuthorTract from Charlotte.

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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: GettingCrapPastTheRadar:
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Children learn in the book that people will believe ''anything'' they see in print. A subtle satirical AuthorTract from Charlotte.



** In the live action film there's this moment where Charlotte is trying to get Ike the horse involved in a meeting involving Wilbur
--->'''Charlotte''': Ike, this meeting involves every one of us.
--->'''Ike''': I just have...trouble looking at you. That's all.
--->'''Charlotte''': Well, this isn't about me, this is about Wilbur. And for the record, my view of you isn't exactly a treat, either.
* TheGreatDepression: The animated film is set during the 1930s, based on the vehicles and clothing depicted. If you look quickly you can even see a portrait of UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt in one scene.

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** In the live action film there's this moment where Charlotte is trying to get Ike the horse involved in a meeting involving Wilbur
Wilbur:
--->'''Charlotte''': Ike, this meeting involves every one of us.
--->'''Ike''':
us.\\
'''Ike''':
I just have...trouble looking at you. That's all.
--->'''Charlotte''':
all.\\
'''Charlotte''':
Well, this isn't about me, this is about Wilbur. And for the record, my view of you isn't exactly a treat, either.
* TheGreatDepression: The animated film is set during the 1930s, based on the vehicles and clothing depicted. If you look quickly you can even see a portrait of UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt in one scene.
either.



* MeaningfulName: Fern's surname is Arable, and she lives on a farm. The land on a farm (especially that used in growing crops) is called arable land.
** Charlotte's full name is Charlotte A. Cavatica. She is also a barn spider, and the scientific name for a barn spider is Araneus cavaticus. When her daughter learns that mother's middle initial was "A", she decides to name herself Aranea.



* MessyPig: Type 2--Sanitary Swine. Or as sanitary as he can be, considering [[NauseaFuel he sleeps on an enormous pile of manure]].
** Played with when Wilbur has to go to the fair. The sheep advises Wilbur to struggle with being put in a crate. Wilbur's objection that it'll make him messy (after he'd just had a buttermilk bath by Edith Zuckerman) is overruled by the sheep warning him if he ''doesn't'' struggle, they'll assume something is wrong with him and leave him behind.
* [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Woman]]: in the animated version, Edith Zuckerman is the only human to point out that a spiderweb with "SOME PIG" woven into it is more indicative that the ''spider'' is special, not the pig. [[CassandraTruth Her husband immediately dismisses the idea.]]
** The live action movie however uses a much more logical realistic answer for this.

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* MeaningfulName:
** Fern's surname is Arable, and she lives on a farm. The land on a farm (especially that used in growing crops) is called arable land.
** Charlotte's full name is Charlotte A. Cavatica. She is also a barn spider, and the scientific name for a barn spider is Araneus cavaticus. When her daughter learns that mother's middle initial was "A", she decides to name herself Aranea.
* MessyPig: Type 2--Sanitary Swine. Or as sanitary as he can be, considering [[NauseaFuel he sleeps on an enormous pile of manure]].
**
manure]]. Played with when Wilbur has to go to the fair. The sheep advises Wilbur to struggle with being put in a crate. Wilbur's objection that it'll make him messy (after he'd just had a buttermilk bath by Edith Zuckerman) is overruled by the sheep warning him if he ''doesn't'' struggle, they'll assume something is wrong with him and leave him behind.
* [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Woman]]: in OnlySaneMan: In the animated version, Edith Zuckerman is the only human to point out that a spiderweb with "SOME PIG" woven into it is more indicative that the ''spider'' is special, not the pig. [[CassandraTruth Her husband immediately dismisses the idea.]]
**
]] The live action movie however uses a much more logical logical, realistic answer for this. this.



* SpidersAreScary: Averted. Charlotte is the nicest spider ever.
** As far as Ike the horse is concerned though, it's played straight, but PlayedForLaughs...[[spoiler:he mostly grows out of it at the end when Charlotte's babies hatch]]
*** When Ike sees Charlotte for the first time he starts shrieking ''SPIDER! GET IT AWAY FROM ME GET IT AWAY!"
*** Then when Charlotte reveals to Wilbur that she drinks flies blood, Ike faints to the ground with a loud THUD. Then as Charlotte climbs down next to the fallen horse
--->'''Ike''': Please don't hurt me.
--->'''Charlotte''': Well, since you said "please." (chuckles)
*** Also this dialogue when Charlotte is trying to get him involved to a meeting involving Wilbur
--->'''Charlotte''': Ike, this involves every one of us.
--->'''Ike''': I just have...trouble looking at you. That's all.
--->'''Charlotte''': Well, this isn't about me, this is about Wilbur. [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar And for the record, my view of you isn't exactly a treat, either]]

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* SpidersAreScary: Averted. Charlotte is the nicest spider ever.
**
ever. As far as Ike the horse is concerned though, it's played straight, but PlayedForLaughs...[[spoiler:he mostly grows out of it at the end when Charlotte's babies hatch]]
***
hatch]].
**
When Ike sees Charlotte for the first time he starts shrieking ''SPIDER! GET IT AWAY FROM ME GET IT AWAY!"
*** ** Then when Charlotte reveals to Wilbur that she drinks flies blood, Ike faints to the ground with a loud THUD. Then as Charlotte climbs down next to the fallen horse
horse:
--->'''Ike''': Please don't hurt me.
--->'''Charlotte''':
me.\\
'''Charlotte''':
Well, since you said "please." (chuckles)
***
''(chuckles)''
**
Also this dialogue when Charlotte is trying to get him involved to a meeting involving Wilbur
Wilbur:
--->'''Charlotte''': Ike, this involves every one of us.
--->'''Ike''':
us.\\
'''Ike''':
I just have...trouble looking at you. That's all.
--->'''Charlotte''':
all.\\
'''Charlotte''':
Well, this isn't about me, this is about Wilbur. [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar And for the record, my view of you isn't exactly a treat, either]]either.]]



* ToughLove: In the book, Charlotte is much stricter on Wilbur than either of the movies, and isn't above snapping at him or scolding him--or anyone else in the barnyard, for that matter.
** Even in the animated movie, she tricks Templeton into going near a cat simply because he did not feel like attending a meeting about Wilbur.

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* ToughLove: In the book, Charlotte is much stricter on Wilbur than either of the movies, and isn't above snapping at him or scolding him--or anyone else in the barnyard, for that matter.
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matter. Even in the animated movie, she tricks Templeton into going near a cat simply because he did not feel like attending a meeting about Wilbur.



* UselessProtagonist: Wilbur, who pretty much does nothing the whole book. It could be argued, he's more of a DecoyProtagonist (along with Fern), if you prefer to think of Charlotte as the ''actual'' main character.
** As far as the adaptations go, Wilbur proves to be much more useful even ''way before'' he takes Charlotte's egg sack home with him.

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* UselessProtagonist: Wilbur, who pretty much does nothing the whole book. It could be argued, argued he's more of a DecoyProtagonist (along with Fern), if you prefer to think of Charlotte as the ''actual'' main character.
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character. As far as the adaptations go, Wilbur proves to be much more useful even ''way before'' he takes Charlotte's egg sack home with him. him.



* WhatsInItForMe: It's a continued theme in at least the animated movie that Templeton repeatedly asks this question, and is repeatedly answered with ''very'' strong incentives. One has to wonder why Templeton hasn't learned to expect it.
** Only once is Templeton ''not'' threatened - and that's the final time with promises of miles of food at the fair.

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* WhatsInItForMe: It's a continued theme in at least the animated movie that Templeton repeatedly asks this question, and is repeatedly answered with ''very'' strong incentives. One has to wonder why Templeton hasn't learned to expect it.
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it. Only once is Templeton ''not'' threatened - and that's the final time with promises of miles of food at the fair.
25th Mar '16 8:45:44 PM Micah
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* ComicallyMissingThePoint: Mr. Zuckerman describes how a message praising his pig has mysteriously appeared in the middle of a spider web, and concludes that they have "no ordinary pig." His wife disagrees:
-->"Well," said Mrs. Zuckerman, "it seems to me you're a little off. It seems to me we have no ordinary spider." \\
"Oh, no," said Zuckerman. "It's the pig that's unusual. It says so, right there in the middle of the web."
9th Mar '16 1:34:59 PM inuyasharules31
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-->'''Templeton''': That was [[SarcasmMode nice,]] Charlotte!\\

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-->'''Templeton''': [[{{Understatement}} That was [[SarcasmMode nice,]] wasn't nice]], Charlotte!\\
7th Feb '16 4:29:03 PM OnTheHillside
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* DisappearedDad: Charlotte has 514 children and their father is neither mentioned nor seen. Given the courtship habits of barn spiders, this is probably for the best.

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* DisappearedDad: Charlotte has 514 children and their father is neither mentioned nor seen. Given the courtship habits of barn spiders, ''Araneus cavaticus,'' this is probably for the best.



-->'''Templeton''': That wasn't nice, Charlotte!\\
'''Charlotte''': Perhaps the next time I call a meeting to discuss Wilbur's safety, Templeton, you'll see fit to attend!

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-->'''Templeton''': That wasn't nice, was [[SarcasmMode nice,]] Charlotte!\\
'''Charlotte''': Perhaps the next time I call a meeting to discuss Wilbur's safety, meeting, Templeton, you'll see fit to attend!
28th Jan '16 8:35:56 AM HighCrate
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* MagnumOpus: Charlotte describes her egg sac as her magnum opus, the finest thing she has ever made. Or, as it turns out, ''will'' ever make, as [[spoiler: she dies, as spiders do, shortly after producing it.]]
25th Dec '15 11:05:25 AM NateTheGreat
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** Especially since [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAUEOlSpVN4 a fair is a veritable smorgasbord-orgasbord-orgasbord]].

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** Especially since [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAUEOlSpVN4 com/watch?v=8A0l-eBK9KE a fair is a veritable smorgasbord-orgasbord-orgasbord]].
18th Dec '15 2:38:10 PM Adam43
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* AnimatedMusical: The Creator/HannaBarbera adaptation is one.

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* AnimatedMusical: The Creator/HannaBarbera adaptation is one.and the 2003 sequel are one. (Though there are only four songs sung in the 2003 sequel.)
14th Dec '15 12:27:16 PM PurrElise
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* AnimatedMusical: The Creator/HannaBarbera adaptation is one.
5th Dec '15 7:06:19 PM ngh93
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* ProtagonistTitleFallacy: The title spider is more the mentor to the actual protagonist, Wilbur.
5th Dec '15 7:05:05 PM ngh93
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: What happened to the gosling that wanted to be a pig?

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Regarding the 1973 version: What happened to the gosling that wanted to be a pig?
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