History InformedAbility / LiveActionTV

27th Jul '16 8:09:19 PM SpocktorWho
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** Subverted in an episode of season nine. Castiel meets with Bartholomew, who goes on at length about what a great strategist Castiel is, but only references past events that all happened offscreen. Then Bartholomew shows Castiel his latest intelligence -- and Castiel makes a tactically sound suggestion that Bartholomew hadn't thought of.
27th Jul '16 1:53:08 PM AFallenPieceOfPaper
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** Rose becomes the centre of the universe without actually doing all that much, yet the Doctor and other characters go on and on about her being special. In fact, she only starts kicking arse and taking names ''after'' she's been separated from the Doctor. Even then she comes across as petty and selfish. And we barely see Martha using her doctoring skills, though to be fair she did use them a couple of times in her earliest stories, saving the Doctor twice. All the skills these characters were supposed to have had were mostly ignored in favour of {{Chickification}}.
1st Jul '16 11:10:12 AM Anddrix
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** The infamous Neelix. Fans are [[BaseBreaker divided]] on just how many of the skills he claims to have are examples of this trope and how many of them are just lies/exaggerations (something he admits to in the episode ''Fair Trade'') however he does potentially have a lot of them. He is an expert cook whose food makes people ill, a morale officer who deliberately starts fights, an intrepid adventurer who is scared of the dark, an expert climber who fell off and injured his team mate, a survival expert whose survival skills indirectly killed two people, a guide whose information is almost always incorrect or inaccurate... you get the point. This is only a taster of what could be a very substantial wall of text.

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** The infamous Neelix. Fans are [[BaseBreaker divided]] divided on just how many of the skills he claims to have are examples of this trope and how many of them are just lies/exaggerations (something he admits to in the episode ''Fair Trade'') however he does potentially have a lot of them. He is an expert cook whose food makes people ill, a morale officer who deliberately starts fights, an intrepid adventurer who is scared of the dark, an expert climber who fell off and injured his team mate, a survival expert whose survival skills indirectly killed two people, a guide whose information is almost always incorrect or inaccurate... you get the point. This is only a taster of what could be a very substantial wall of text.
19th Jun '16 12:21:59 PM TimBuckII
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*** To be fair, later episodes heavily imply they just really like screwing with people, and slowly sneaking up on them certainly qualifies as that.
16th Apr '16 9:09:15 AM Morgenthaler
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** It helps that the main one doing the informing is Pete, which implies that he's not so much a fearsome outlaw as one who is very skilled at building his own legend. Also, like Jango Fett, he's clearly good at hiring associates, which makes him look more competent by connection. He did successfully derail a train with a Road Runner-style painted wall, and came back from the dead at least once with no explanation.



* ''Series/TheAquabatsSuperShow'' has a flashback (one of [[MultipleChoicePast five contradictory ones by the five different band members over the course of five episodes]]) in which Jimmy the Robot mentions that he joined The Aquabats! as a saxophone player. Whenever the show features him playing with the band, however, he's on keyboard.
** What makes this one really odd is [[Music/TheAquabats his actor/real-life counterpart]] ''does'' play sax (and keyboard) for the band.

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* ''Series/TheAquabatsSuperShow'' has ''Series/TheAquabatsSuperShow'':
** There's
a flashback (one of [[MultipleChoicePast five contradictory ones by the five different band members over the course of five episodes]]) in which Jimmy the Robot mentions that he joined The Aquabats! as a saxophone player. Whenever the show features him playing with the band, however, he's on keyboard.
** What makes this one really odd is [[Music/TheAquabats his actor/real-life counterpart]] ''does'' play sax (and keyboard) for the band.
keyboard.



* ''Series/{{Being Human|UK}}'':
** George is described several times as a genius and claims to have an IQ in the 150s. We never see him exhibit any high level of intelligence or knowledge. The smartest thing we see him do is teach basic English to ESL students. He mentions his ability to speak a number of languages, but never does so on camera. He admits to not knowing any Hebrew and can't remember all six words of the ''Shema'' prayer.

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* ''Series/{{Being Human|UK}}'':
**
Human|UK}}'': George is described several times as a genius and claims to have an IQ in the 150s. We never see him exhibit any high level of intelligence or knowledge. The smartest thing we see him do is teach basic English to ESL students. He mentions his ability to speak a number of languages, but never does so on camera. He admits to not knowing any Hebrew and can't remember all six words of the ''Shema'' prayer.



*** Later media showed that certain Slayer abilities took a lot of practice to use effectively, or occasionally didn't show up at all. Far-future Slayer Fray discovers that she lacks the prophetic dreams that were a feature of early Buffy. Eventually she realises this is because she was a twin - her brother Harth received the dreams, which was a problem once he became a vampire...



** The Writers seemingly attempted to combine Alex and Casey into one character. It backfired spectacularly.



* ''Series/{{Merlin}}'': Excalibur is described constantly as a powerful and dangerous sword that can '''only''' be wielded safely by Arthur. Yet not only is it used by both Uther and Merlin in two separate episodes with no drastic consequences, by the time Arthur ''finally'' gets his hands on it at the end of series four, nothing particularly exceptional is done with it. He can't even defeat [[TheBrute Helios]] without help. The sword lives up to its reputation of being able to kill the dead, but it's neither as awesome in the right hands ''or'' as dangerous in the wrong ones as its maker would have you believe.

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* ''Series/{{Merlin}}'': ''Series/{{Merlin 2008}}'': Excalibur is described constantly as a powerful and dangerous sword that can '''only''' be wielded safely by Arthur. Yet not only is it used by both Uther and Merlin in two separate episodes with no drastic consequences, by the time Arthur ''finally'' gets his hands on it at the end of series four, nothing particularly exceptional is done with it. He can't even defeat [[TheBrute Helios]] without help. The sword lives up to its reputation of being able to kill the dead, but it's neither as awesome in the right hands ''or'' as dangerous in the wrong ones as its maker would have you believe.



* ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'': PlayedForLaughs is the KillerRobot from the ''Adventures of Captain Proton'' holodeck program. All the holodeck characters act like it's a terrifying menace, yet it's just a slow-moving, inept TinCanRobot with a [[RoboSpeak speech impediment]].

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* ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'': ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'':
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PlayedForLaughs is the KillerRobot from the ''Adventures of Captain Proton'' holodeck program. All the holodeck characters act like it's a terrifying menace, yet it's just a slow-moving, inept TinCanRobot with a [[RoboSpeak speech impediment]].



*** Actually something of an InvokedTrope: Their reputation is based more on the fact that they're still alive eleven seasons into a show where making it more than a year on-screen or off-screen is [[AnyoneCanDie pretty rare]] than anything else. They lampshade the fact that their survival is more a matter of luck and cheap shots than skill on a regular basis, and [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Crowley]]'s entire bit as a villain is understanding that it's not necessarily their _prowess_ that is to be feared.
10th Apr '16 8:15:58 PM crazyrabbits
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* ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'': Leslie Winkle is supposedly more intelligent than Sheldon (and, by transitivity, the rest of the cast) but never does or says anything to demonstrate this. Her supposed superiority is only demonstrated by her calling Sheldon "dumb-ass" at every opportunity. WordOfGod states that this is one of several reasons her character was written out.
** She does demonstrate this at one point, however. While sleeping over at Leonard's, she spots a mathematical error on Sheldon's board (which had stumped his work for some time) and takes the liberty of correcting it herself. Naturally this outraged Sheldon.
** Penny's alleged social life seems to consist entirely of a string of one-night stands. She doesn't have any actual friends outside the main group and their girlfriends; at least the main nerds have buddies at the comic store. When they try to use her as TheFace she ends up relying entirely on physical intimidation.



* ''Series/TwentyFour'':
** Early on in the first season, Jack Bauer meets a guest at one of Senator David Palmer's primary appearances who appears to be surprised and honored to meet him, pointing out that he's one of the best motorcycle riders she's ever seen. Even though supplemental material also corroborates the fact that Jack seems to be exceptionally skilled with motorcycles, he never uses one in the series, nor ever demonstrates his (allegedly) high proficiency with one.
** Ronnie Lobell is introduced as the new Director of Field Operations (a position normally held by badasses like Jack and Curtis Manning) in the fourth season. However, he appears to be extremely by-the-book and practically rolls over and does nothing when a suspected terrorist arrives at CTU. He dies after just two episodes, standing out in the open as he gets flanked and shot down by a pair of assailants.



* ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'': Leslie Winkle is supposedly more intelligent than Sheldon (and, by transitivity, the rest of the cast) but never does or says anything to demonstrate this. Her supposed superiority is only demonstrated by her calling Sheldon "dumb-ass" at every opportunity. WordOfGod states that this is one of several reasons her character was written out.
** She does demonstrate this at one point, however. While sleeping over at Leonard's, she spots a mathematical error on Sheldon's board (which had stumped his work for some time) and takes the liberty of correcting it herself. Naturally this outraged Sheldon.
** Penny's alleged social life seems to consist entirely of a string of one-night stands. She doesn't have any actual friends outside the main group and their girlfriends; at least the main nerds have buddies at the comic store. When they try to use her as TheFace she ends up relying entirely on physical intimidation.
15th Mar '16 7:03:16 AM NNinja
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** Sam Beckett. Viewers are informed that he "Has an IQ of 197 and graduated from high school at 16. Completed four years worth of classes at MIT in two years. Has seven doctoral degrees and speaks 11 languages." But precious little of this comes through on the show, where he typically arrives at the solution to the Problem of the Week via his intuition more than anything else (and he certainly never speaks any language other than English -- yes the Swiss Cheese effect might explain part but not all of that).
** He is shown to at least understand foreign languages in one episode where he's in the body of a WWII veteran who brings his Japanese wife home with him. He also speaks a few words of Japanese in that episode.
** He also speaks Russian in "Lee Harvey Oswald", an episode where he leaped into... yep, you guessed it, [[CaptainObvious Lee]] [[GunmanWithThreeNames Harvey]] [[WhoShotJFK Oswald]]. [[spoiler: That might be due to a bit of Oswald's mind/soul/whatever being still there, though.]]
** Plus a greater part of the early series (and particularly episode 1) was focused on the fact that the Quantum Leap machine had given Sam amnesia which is why he doesn't recognize Al or Ziggy despite logically having worked with them. If this condition is even halfway realistic he would never be able to recover fully from it no matter how hard he tried.

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** Sam Beckett. Viewers are informed that he "Has an IQ of 197 and graduated from high school at 16. Completed four years worth of classes at MIT in two years. Has seven doctoral degrees and speaks 11 languages." But precious little of this comes through on the show, where he typically arrives at the solution to the Problem of the Week via his intuition more than anything else (and (although he certainly never speaks any language other than English -- yes the Swiss Cheese effect might explain part but not all of that).
** He is shown to at least
does speak and understand few foreign languages in one episode where he's in the body of a WWII veteran who brings his Japanese wife home with him. He also speaks a few words of Japanese in that episode.
** He also speaks Russian in "Lee Harvey Oswald", an episode where he leaped into... yep, you guessed it, [[CaptainObvious Lee]] [[GunmanWithThreeNames Harvey]] [[WhoShotJFK Oswald]]. [[spoiler: That might be due to a bit of Oswald's mind/soul/whatever being still there, though.]]
** Plus a greater part of the early series (and particularly episode 1) was focused on the fact that the Quantum Leap machine had given Sam amnesia which is why he doesn't recognize Al or Ziggy despite logically having worked with them. If this condition is even halfway realistic he would never be able to recover fully
lnguages from it no matter how hard he tried.time to time).
7th Mar '16 5:21:09 PM WhatRayDid
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*** Actually something of an InvokedTrope: Their reputation is based more on the fact that they're still alive eleven seasons into a show where making it more than a year on-screen or off-screen is [[AnyoneCanDie pretty rare]] than anything else. They lampshade the fact that their survival is more a matter of luck and cheap shots than skill on a regular basis, and [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy Crowley]]'s entire bit as a villain is understanding that it's not necessarily their _prowess_ that is to be feared.
7th Feb '16 6:45:08 PM neckinhalf
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** Dexter is supposed to be a cautious criminal mastermind, but his never being caught can be attributed to luck and the utter inadequacy of the Miami Police Department in the series. He buys tons of horse tranquilizer under the name [[Literature/AmericanPsycho Patrick Bateman]], a notorious fictional serial killer. He buys tons of plastic for his kills; WAY more than any normal person would have use for. He has an elaborate kill ritual that anyone could walk in on at any time. He has been directly or indirectly involved with many {{Big Bad}}s, criminals and victims in the show[[note]]The Ice Truck Killer, Doakes, Lila, Miguel Prado, Rita, the Trinity Killer, Stan Liddy, Jordan Chase, Hannah [=McKay=], Maria [=LaGuerta=], Oliver Saxon, Dr. Vogel and Debra[[/note]], but is never linked to any of their crimes/murders. Worst of all, ''he frequently looks up potential kills and victims of his prey on his police computer at the police station.''

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** Dexter is supposed to be a cautious criminal mastermind, but his never being caught can be attributed to luck and the utter inadequacy of the Miami Police Department in the series. He buys tons of horse tranquilizer under the name [[Literature/AmericanPsycho Patrick Bateman]], a notorious fictional serial killer. He Also, he buys tons of plastic for his kills; WAY more than any normal person would have use for.for. Even if you figure he's buying his kill tools in tiny increments, there's other things. He has an elaborate kill ritual that anyone could walk in on at any time. He has been directly or indirectly involved with many {{Big Bad}}s, criminals and victims in the show[[note]]The Ice Truck Killer, Doakes, Lila, Miguel Prado, Rita, the Trinity Killer, Stan Liddy, Jordan Chase, Hannah [=McKay=], Maria [=LaGuerta=], Oliver Saxon, Dr. Vogel and Debra[[/note]], but is never linked to any of their crimes/murders. Worst of all, ''he frequently looks up potential kills and victims of his prey on his police computer at the police station.''
30th Jan '16 7:49:53 AM lorgskyegon
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** In a final bout of irony and humor, the original plan was for Morn to say the last line during the series finale. It was cut.

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** *** In a final bout of irony and humor, the original plan was for Morn to say the last line during the series finale. It was cut.
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