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24th Nov '17 10:00:33 AM corbenik777
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''{{Series/The Punisher}}'':
**Curts' stupidity drives the Lewis sub-plot through the show. First, he refuses to ban the RightWing Militia Fanatic from the support group. Throughout the show, it is abundantly clear that the militia fanatic is not there to support others or to get better, but to spout racist diatribes (at the primarily black group) and to recruit any white people that happen to drop by into his conspiracy fantasy land. Though he admirably wants to make the group a welcoming place for all viewpoints, as the leader of the group, it is on him to remove people who are openly there to drag others off the road to recovery.
***Curtis gets it again when he finds Lewis' hideout. Instead of calling police, the Feds, or Frank, he goes into the hideout alone, gets ambushed while snooping, and gets strapped to a bomb. And instead of telling the police this, he lets them assume Frank is working with Lewis.
11th Nov '17 1:37:28 PM LaughingGiraffe
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* ''Series/DowntonAbbey'': Throughout one episode, Daisy keeps repeating some variation on, "Hey, the oven's not working, I think the chimney's blocked." Mrs. Patmore keeps telling her not to be silly or make excuses, instead of ''looking at the goddamn oven'' and seeing that it is, indeed, blocked. The result is that the meal prepared specially for the purposes of impressing Grandma Levinson is ruined.

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* ''Series/DowntonAbbey'': Throughout one episode, Daisy keeps repeating some variation on, "Hey, the oven's not working, I think the chimney's blocked." Bear in mind that at this stage, Daisy has been the kitchen maid for years and would know how the oven works. Mrs. Patmore keeps telling her not to be silly or make excuses, instead of ''looking at the goddamn oven'' and seeing that it is, indeed, blocked. The result is that the meal prepared specially for the purposes of impressing Grandma Levinson is ruined.
10th Nov '17 4:53:59 AM RedScharlach
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* ''Series/TheBradyBunch''in the episode [[Recap/TheBradyBunchS1E13IsThereADoctorInTheHouse "Is There a Doctor in the House?"]] Cindy complains about her mother bringing her peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, a has to be reminded that their her favorite, to which she acknowledges she keeps forgetting. The scene made Susan Olsen furious because it makes Cindy seem like a complete doofus

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* ''Series/TheBradyBunch''in ''Series/TheBradyBunch'': In the episode [[Recap/TheBradyBunchS1E13IsThereADoctorInTheHouse "Is There a Doctor in the House?"]] House?"]], Cindy complains about her mother bringing her peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, a and has to be reminded that their they're her favorite, to which she acknowledges replies that she keeps forgetting. The scene made Susan Olsen furious because it makes Cindy seem like a complete doofusdoofus.



* ''Series/{{Defiance}}'': Tommy, do not hand a loaded gun to a paraoid woman suffering from hallucinations that you're there to protect.

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* ''Series/{{Defiance}}'': Tommy, do not hand a loaded gun to a paraoid paranoid woman suffering from hallucinations that you're there to protect.



** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS5E3TheIceWarriors The Ice Warriors]]" generates most of its plot tension by the fact that [[PointyHairedBoss Leader]] Clent is an ObstructiveBureaucrat completely dependent on his computer to tell him what to do, and refusing to either take the initiative or allow anyone else to. Multiple times the other scientists get a plan in motion only to have it scuppered by Clent's insistence on going through the computer. Dealt with realistically in that everyone else on the base hates him for this, and one has even left civilisation to become a scavenger due to how unbearable he is to work with. Also, bosses like that are TruthInTelevision.

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** "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS5E3TheIceWarriors The Ice Warriors]]" generates most of its plot tension by the fact that [[PointyHairedBoss Leader]] Clent is an ObstructiveBureaucrat completely dependent on his computer to tell him what to do, and refusing to either take the initiative or allow anyone else to. Multiple times the other scientists get a plan in motion only to have it scuppered by Clent's insistence on going through the computer. Dealt with realistically in that everyone else on the base hates him for this, and one person has even left civilisation to become a scavenger due to how unbearable he is to work with. Also, bosses like that are TruthInTelevision.



*** The Doctor's not too clever there, either. Why would he take the girl with daddy issues to the exact point where her father died? Conversely, in his defense, he did warn her not to fuck up history when he did consent to take her there and gave her explicit instructions on what to do to avoid that, but the point that he grossly underestimated her emotional issues still stands.

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*** The Doctor's not too clever there, either. Why would he take the girl with daddy issues to the exact point where her father died? Conversely, in his defense, he did warn her not to fuck up history when he did consent consented to take her there and gave her explicit instructions on what to do to avoid that, but the point that he grossly underestimated her emotional issues still stands.



** "[[Recap/DoctorWho2014CSLastChristmas Last Christmas]]" has a part where Clara is concerned about an apparently empty room, calls "Doctor?" and then heads into the room without pausing. Of course she gets attacked. This is a standard companion manoeuvre and wouldn't be notable had "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E8ColdWar Cold War]]" not gone out of its way to establish that Clara is the companion who ''doesn't'' wander off. Possibly forgiven however, since the episode ultimately reveals that much of what we see is a [[spoiler: shared dream]].
*** However, less forgivable is the small ball Clara tosses around in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E4BeforeTheFlood Before the Flood]]" when she communicates with the Doctor via Facetime and proceeds to describe the actions of his apparent [[spoiler: ghost]], even though she's using a ''video phone'' and could simply turn the camera towards the entity and let the Doctor process information a lot quicker.

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** "[[Recap/DoctorWho2014CSLastChristmas Last Christmas]]" has a part where Clara is concerned about an apparently empty room, calls "Doctor?" and then heads into the room without pausing. Of course she gets attacked. This is a standard companion manoeuvre and wouldn't be notable had "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E8ColdWar Cold War]]" not gone out of its way to establish that Clara is the companion who ''doesn't'' wander off. Possibly forgiven however, since the episode ultimately reveals that much of what we see is a [[spoiler: shared [[spoiler:shared dream]].
*** However, less forgivable is the small ball Clara tosses around in "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS35E4BeforeTheFlood Before the Flood]]" when she communicates with the Doctor via Facetime and proceeds to describe the actions of his apparent [[spoiler: ghost]], [[spoiler:ghost]], even though she's using a ''video phone'' and could simply turn the camera towards the entity and let the Doctor process information a lot quicker.



*** The Doctor's immediate reaction to the situation [[spoiler: is to blow everything up]].
*** The Doctor then wilfully keeps other characters in the dark when one might have been able to say "Oh yeah, the master override for the bots is right here" (or alternatively, the designers for not having such a control).
* ''{{Series/Dollhouse}}'': Has the entire staff hold this to create a certain plot element in the second season. In the first season near the end Alpha destroys the backup of Caroline, Echo's original persona and steals the main copy of her, which is retrieved. In season two they opt to bring her back, only to find the main copy is now missing. So that leaves them with only the smashed backup that needs to be reassembled. Creates a plot element there, until you wonder why they didn't make yet another backup of the original copy with the backup effectively destroyed. Keep in mind that there is a timespan of approximately a year between these two events.

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*** The Doctor's immediate reaction to the situation [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is to blow everything up]].
*** The Doctor then wilfully keeps other characters in the dark when one might have been able to say "Oh yeah, the master override for the bots is right here" (or alternatively, that the designers for not having bots have no such a control).
* ''{{Series/Dollhouse}}'': Has the entire staff hold this to create a certain plot element in the second season. In the first season near the end Alpha destroys the backup of Caroline, Echo's original persona persona, and steals the main copy of her, which is retrieved. In season two they opt to bring her back, only to find the main copy is now missing. So that leaves them with only the smashed backup that needs to be reassembled. Creates a plot element there, until you wonder why they didn't make yet another backup of the original copy with the backup effectively destroyed. Keep in mind that there is a timespan of approximately a year between these two events.



* ''Series/{{Fringe}}'': Peter is meant to be a genius, with an insanely high IQ and perception [[spoiler: enough to realize that he's from another universe. He's also known Olivia for over 2 years now.]] At the end of last season, he and Olivia finally admitted their feelings, to some extent anyway. [[spoiler: Then the two Olivias, the one from the parallel world and the one from our world, switched, and he somehow hasn't noticed even though a) he's noticed how different she is, b) he's surrounded by cases of impostors from Over There, and c) he's spending so much time with her that they've slept together.]] Even Peter's actor admits he's gotten the Idiot Ball this season. When a reckoning came around, [[spoiler:Olivia chewed him out for it, and their relationship was somewhat rocky thereafter, until they finally go together.]]

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* ''Series/{{Fringe}}'': Peter is meant to be a genius, with an insanely high IQ and perception [[spoiler: enough [[spoiler:enough to realize that he's from another universe. He's also known Olivia for over 2 years now.]] At the end of last one season, he and Olivia finally admitted their feelings, to some extent anyway. [[spoiler: Then [[spoiler:Then the two Olivias, the one from the parallel world and the one from our world, switched, and he somehow hasn't noticed even though a) he's noticed how different she is, b) he's surrounded by cases of impostors from Over There, and c) he's spending so much time with her that they've slept together.]] Even Peter's actor admits he's gotten he got the Idiot Ball this that season. When a reckoning came around, [[spoiler:Olivia chewed him out for it, and their relationship was somewhat rocky thereafter, until they finally go together.]]



** There was also the part in volume two where Peter teams up with Adam Monroe to destroy a deadly virus that can kill 90%+ of the world's population. Of course, Adam is really planning on [[spoiler: releasing the virus.]] Several people along the way, including Hiro, tell Peter than Adam is evil and Peter refuses to listen until Nathan intervenes. Now, the ''justification'' is that Peter owes Nathan's life to Adam and has become TheDragon. But Peter has the ability to read minds, and could have easily read Adam's mind to confirm if he was a bad guy or not? Peter even uses his mind-reading on a woman named Victoria while she's trying to tell Peter that Adam is bad news so it's not like the writers forgot Peter had this ability.

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** There was also the part in volume two where Peter teams up with Adam Monroe to destroy a deadly virus that can kill 90%+ of the world's population. Of course, Adam is really planning on [[spoiler: releasing [[spoiler:releasing the virus.]] Several people along the way, including Hiro, tell Peter than Adam is evil and Peter refuses to listen until Nathan intervenes. Now, the ''justification'' is that Peter owes Nathan's life to Adam and has become TheDragon. But Peter has the ability to read minds, and could have easily read Adam's mind to confirm if he was a bad guy or not? not. Peter even uses his mind-reading on a woman named Victoria while she's trying to tell Peter that Adam is bad news so it's not like the writers forgot Peter had this ability.



*** There's also no way [[spoiler:your female boss would have any problem with the fact that one of your first official acts as a manager was to open the hospital up for a crippliing sexual harassment lawsuit by telling a female subordinate that you're firing her specifically so she'll have sex with you.]]

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*** There's also no way [[spoiler:your female boss would have any problem with the fact that one of your first official acts as a manager was to open the hospital up for a crippliing crippling sexual harassment lawsuit by telling a female subordinate that you're firing her specifically so she'll have sex with you.]]



** Jerome and Joy both get one, when they are kept in the gatehouse, along with Patricia and Alfie, to do an 'extra credit' project for their teacher, based around an eclipse coming up. Patricia and Alfie are aware that it's really [[spoiler:ceremony to awaken Robert Frobisher-Smythe.]] Jerome and Joy, however, refuse to believe them. This wouldn't be so bad... except Jerome and Joy both dealt with the mysteries in both of the past two seasons. Heck, Joy had even been part of Sibuna in the beginning of that very season, and Patricia and Alfie are their best friends. Neither of them had any reason not to believe Patricia and Alfie.

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** Jerome and Joy both get one, when they are kept in the gatehouse, along with Patricia and Alfie, to do an 'extra credit' project for their teacher, based around an eclipse coming up. Patricia and Alfie are aware that it's really [[spoiler:ceremony [[spoiler:a ceremony to awaken Robert Frobisher-Smythe.]] Jerome and Joy, however, refuse to believe them. This wouldn't be so bad... except Jerome and Joy both dealt with the mysteries in both of the past two seasons. Heck, Joy had even been part of Sibuna in the beginning of that very season, and Patricia and Alfie are their best friends. Neither of them had any reason not to believe Patricia and Alfie.



* ''Series/KamenRiderBlade'': The final storyline dealt with trying to stop the Joker from winning the Battle Fight and causing TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt [[spoiler:the problem being they don't want to seal him because he's become a human and friend. [[TheLancer Tachibana]] suggests unsealing the Human Undead and then sealing the other two, but no one wants to seal Joker still, leading to him being the winner and Blade having to turn into another Joker to TakeAThirdOption and save both. Alright, fair enough. Except for the fact Kamen Rider Leangle has the power to unseal Undead and they've got the Tarantula Undead, whose a very nice guy who had no intent of doing anything wrong and they spent a storyline trying to ''prevent'' from being sealed. If they'd just unsealed him before sealing the Catagory King of Diamonds Undead, then the entire final storyline wouldn't have happened in the first place! Leangle even attempts this ''after'' Joker wins but the Undead can no longer be unsealed by then, but nothing was stopping him before!]]

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* ''Series/KamenRiderBlade'': The final storyline dealt with trying to stop the Joker from winning the Battle Fight and causing TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt [[spoiler:the problem being they don't want to seal him because he's become a human and friend. [[TheLancer Tachibana]] suggests unsealing the Human Undead and then sealing the other two, but no one wants to seal Joker still, leading to him being the winner and Blade having to turn into another Joker to TakeAThirdOption and save both. Alright, fair enough. Except for the fact Kamen Rider Leangle has the power to unseal Undead and they've got the Tarantula Undead, whose a very nice guy who had no intent of doing anything wrong and they spent a storyline trying to ''prevent'' from being sealed. If they'd just unsealed him before sealing the Catagory Category King of Diamonds Undead, then the entire final storyline wouldn't have happened in the first place! Leangle even attempts this ''after'' Joker wins but the Undead can no longer be unsealed by then, but nothing was stopping him before!]]



** While it does have adverse consequences, this actually lines up with Robin's wisdom and character. They had just been unjustly accused of killing a nun and a child (and targeting the Sheriff) and were dealing with a huge PR problem because of it. This made it a matter of ego and necessity. It was also noble, given the Sheriff tended to assume anyone in Robin's remote vicinity was part of his gang and immediately sentence them to death. Also, Robin was never shown giving the tags to the men who were captured and killed for wearing them four episodes later. It is much more likely that [[spoiler: Alan-a-Dale's brother and his band of thieves stole them along with the clothes, money, and horses, since the scene immediately following their betrayal is the first time you see them proudly wearing the tags.]] Robin specifically [[spoiler: withheld them earlier, explaining they would need to be earned,]] since it was a matter of not only his reputation, but their safety.

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** While it does have adverse consequences, this actually lines up with Robin's wisdom and character. They had just been unjustly accused of killing a nun and a child (and targeting the Sheriff) and were dealing with a huge PR problem because of it. This made it a matter of ego and necessity. It was also noble, given the Sheriff tended to assume anyone in Robin's remote vicinity was part of his gang and immediately sentence them to death. Also, Robin was never shown giving the tags to the men who were captured and killed for wearing them four episodes later. It is much more likely that [[spoiler: Alan-a-Dale's [[spoiler:Alan-a-Dale's brother and his band of thieves stole them along with the clothes, money, and horses, since the scene immediately following their betrayal is the first time you see them proudly wearing the tags.]] Robin specifically [[spoiler: withheld them earlier, explaining they would need to be earned,]] since it was a matter of not only his reputation, but their safety.



* ''Series/{{Warehouse 13}}'': Seems to be relying upon this for its plots more and more. You would think that agents who have been tracking down mystical artifacts for three years, seeing everything from earth-tremour causing walking sticks, to density manipulating spandex underwear, to a machine that can bronze people in such away that can be revived with no problems, that whenever shit doesn't make sense, they'd realize it's an artifact that caused and start trying to think of something that could do it, or looking on the computers. What does Pete do? Immediately thinks it's some wicked plot by the baddie du jour, rather than yet another artifact mishap which he seems to attract like moths to an open flame.

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* ''Series/{{Warehouse 13}}'': Seems to be relying upon this for its plots more and more. You would think that agents who have been tracking down mystical artifacts for three years, seeing everything from earth-tremour causing earth-tremor-causing walking sticks, to density manipulating density-manipulating spandex underwear, to a machine that can bronze people in such away a way that they can be revived with no problems, that whenever shit doesn't make sense, they'd realize it's an artifact that caused and start trying to think of something that could do it, or looking on the computers. What does Pete do? Immediately thinks it's some wicked plot by the baddie du jour, rather than yet another artifact mishap which he seems to attract like moths to an open flame.
9th Nov '17 6:03:19 PM LaughingGiraffe
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* ''Series/DowntonAbbey'': Throughout one episode, Daisy keeps repeating some variation on, "Hey, the oven's not working, I think the chimney's blocked." Mrs. Patmore keeps telling her not to be silly or make excuses, instead of ''looking at the goddamn oven'' and seeing that it is, indeed, blocked. The result is that the meal prepared specially for the purposes of impressing Grandma Levinson is ruined.
15th Oct '17 11:14:41 AM randomtroper89
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** Perhaps it was Idiot Dodgeball?

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** Perhaps * ''Series/TheBradyBunch''in the episode [[Recap/TheBradyBunchS1E13IsThereADoctorInTheHouse "Is There a Doctor in the House?"]] Cindy complains about her mother bringing her peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, a has to be reminded that their her favorite, to which she acknowledges she keeps forgetting. The scene made Susan Olsen furious because it was Idiot Dodgeball?makes Cindy seem like a complete doofus



** In "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS6E11Gone}} Gone]]", Buffy is made invisible, and goes to have kinky sex with Spike. Xander walks in, and unquestioningly accepts that Spike was doing push-ups. Note that Buffy still makes audible noises throughout the whole scene, and Xander already knows about the invisibility.

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** In "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS6E11Gone}} Gone]]", Buffy is made invisible, and goes to have kinky sex with Spike. Xander walks in, in and unquestioningly accepts that Spike was doing push-ups. Note push-ups, despite that Buffy still makes audible noises throughout the whole scene, and Xander already knows about the invisibility.
15th Oct '17 11:05:03 AM randomtroper89
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** Also in "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS4E15ThisYearsGirl}} This Year's Girl]]"; after Faith has woken up from her coma, Giles and Xander are out searching for her, and try to enlist Spike's help -- only for him to remind them that he hates them all, and despite his [[BadassDecay ongoing Spikeification]] would be more than willing to sick a rogue psycho Slayer on them. Promptly {{lampshade|Hanging}}d:

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** Also in "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS4E15ThisYearsGirl}} This Year's Girl]]"; after Faith has woken up from her coma, Giles and Xander are out searching for her, and try to enlist Spike's help -- only for him to remind them that he hates them all, and despite his [[BadassDecay ongoing Spikeification]] BadassDecay would be more than willing to sick a rogue psycho Slayer on them. Promptly {{lampshade|Hanging}}d:



** In "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS6E11Gone}} Gone]]", Buffy is made invisible, and goes to have kinky sex with Spike. Xander walks in, and unquestioningly accepts that Spike was doing push-ups. Note that Buffy still makes audible noises throughout the whole scene, ''and'' Xander already knows about the invisibility.

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** In "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS6E11Gone}} Gone]]", Buffy is made invisible, and goes to have kinky sex with Spike. Xander walks in, and unquestioningly accepts that Spike was doing push-ups. Note that Buffy still makes audible noises throughout the whole scene, ''and'' and Xander already knows about the invisibility.
26th Jul '17 9:53:53 PM maarvarq
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** "Recap/DoctorWhoS36E2Smile":

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26th Jul '17 9:52:22 PM maarvarq
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*** The emoji-bots, which are supposed to be interfaces, grant no control of the micro-bots whatsoever.
*** The Doctor's immediate reaction to the situation [[spoiler: is to blow everything up]].
*** The Doctor then wilfully keeps other characters in the dark when one might have been able to say "Oh yeah, the master override for the bots is right here" (or alternatively, the designers for not having such a control).
20th Jul '17 8:31:52 PM ShorinBJ
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** "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E16QWho}} Q Who]]": Q flings the Enterprise to an uncharted region of space, specifically as a response to the assertion by Picard and Riker that they can handle whatever they find. Knowing Guinan knows the region, they ask her about it. She warns them to get out while they still can. They decide it would be grand to poke around to satisfy their curiosity, which leads to meeting the Borg. Guinan then tells Picard that this enemy destroyed her home planet, and warns him, "Protect yourself, Captain, or they'll destroy you." Picard attempts to have a nice chat with one.
** The episode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E8Unification2}} Unification, Part 2]]". So, the villainous Romulan Sela has revealed her plan to invade and occupy Vulcan, but it's critical that Starfleet not be warned ahead of time. Across from her is seated Captain Jean Luc Picard, Lt. Commander Data, and Ambassador fuckin' Spock-three of the smartest and most badass characters in all of Star Trek - whom she has managed to capture. So what does she do now? Leave the three of them in her office. Unattended. And with access to her computer. Geez, it's like she wasn't even trying.

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** "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E16QWho}} Q Who]]": Q flings the Enterprise to an uncharted region of space, specifically as a response to the assertion by Picard and Riker that they can handle whatever they find. Knowing Guinan knows the region, they ask her about it. She warns them to get out while they still can. They decide it would be grand to poke around to satisfy their curiosity, which leads to meeting the Borg. Guinan then tells Picard that this enemy destroyed her home planet, and warns him, "Protect yourself, Captain, or they'll destroy you." Picard attempts to have a nice chat with one.
one while it ignores him and gathers sensitive information from Engineering.
** The episode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E8Unification2}} Unification, Part 2]]". So, the villainous Romulan Sela has revealed her plan to invade and occupy Vulcan, but it's critical that Starfleet not be warned ahead of time. Across from her is seated Captain Jean Luc Jean-Luc Picard, Lt. Commander Data, and Ambassador fuckin' Spock-three Spock -- three of the smartest and most badass characters in all of Star Trek - -- whom she has managed to capture. So what does she do now? Leave the three of them in her office. Unattended. And with access to her computer. Geez, it's like she wasn't even trying.



** There's also Tasha Yar in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E12Datalore}} Datalore]]". [[IdiotPlot The rest of the crew didn't do much better]], but special mention must go to the chief of security for failing to recognize that a perfect twin of the second officer might possibly represent a security risk.
*** She DID recognize this, and she DID voice her concerns to the bridge crew. Captain Picard pooh-poohed her concerns, saying that he trusts Data implicitly, suggesting that in his mind the biggest risk was that Lore would lure Data to the dark side rather than the more reasonable risk of him impersonating Data. Lore does impersonate Data--badly--and only Wesley recognizes this. Hate Wesley if you want, but he does deserve the credit for saving the ship this time.

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** There's also Tasha Yar in In "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E12Datalore}} Datalore]]". [[IdiotPlot The rest of the crew didn't do much better]], but special mention must go to Datalore]]", the chief of security for failing to recognize points out that a perfect twin of the second officer might possibly represent a security risk.
*** She DID recognize this, and she DID voice her concerns to the bridge crew.
risk. Captain Picard pooh-poohed her concerns, saying that he trusts Data implicitly, suggesting that in his mind the biggest risk was that Lore would lure Data to the dark side rather than the more reasonable risk of him impersonating Data. Lore does impersonate Data--badly--and only Wesley recognizes this. Hate Wesley if you want, but he does deserve the credit for saving the ship this time.



** Captain Picard takes the lead in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS6E24S7E1Descent}} Descent]]". Desperate to find Data and the Borg he orders most of the crew to a planet to look for them leaving a skeleton crew led by Crusher, and apparently mostly consisting of ensigns, to look after the ship. Most people, when deciding how to split their resources, would go with using their highly experienced officers to operate the ship; leaving wandering about looking behind bushes to the lesser lights.
** It was Riker's turn to hold the Idiot Ball in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E17SamaritanSnare}} Samaritan Snare]]". Riker sends [=LaForge=] over to a Pakled ship (the crew of which seems exceptionally slow) to do some requested repairs. Worf objects to sending them the Enterprise's chief engineer, but Riker blows it off. Troi tells him directly that she's suspicious and feels that [=LaForge=] is in danger. Riker blows if off again. Then Geordi gets captured because Worf and Troi were right and Riker ignored them. Scriptwriter Dennis Russell Bailey, who wrote the screenplay for "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E20TinMan}} Tin Man]]" in the following season said, "The point at which we became serious about trying to write a script for the show was about five minutes after watching 'Samaritan Snare,' which in my personal opinion was the most abysmal piece of Star Trek ever filmed. My objections to it were that it always resorted to idiot plotting to make the story work, and that offended me a great deal worse than some of the awful shows which were done on the original series. I thought the way in which it was plotted and the way it was dealt with was an insult to the intelligence of the people who watched the show and the actors and characters in the show. None of the plot could have happened if all of the characters hadn't suddenly became morons that week."
** The entire episode of "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E12TheHighGround}} The High Ground]]" is the result of Dr. Crusher holding the IdiotBall. In the opening, a terrorist bomb explodes nearby the cast and injures several citzens of the planet the crew is on, so Dr. Crusher recklessly goes over to administer medical attention without any security or other means of protection, as she is prone to do, and a couple minutes later one of the terrorists warps in, grabs Crusher and warps out, kidnapping her. The entire episode is spent trying to locate and rescue her. However, the viewer will probably notice the IdiotBall moment when the viewer realizes that Crusher could have immediately pressed her combadge and said the 7 words she says practically every episode where Crusher is with a patient somewhere off of the Enterprise: "Enterprise, (insert number of patients plus Dr. Crusher here) to beam directly to sickbay" just about immediately after the bomb blast, avoiding being kidnapped and thus avoiding the entire plot of the episode.
* ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'': Captain Janeway practically ''is'' an Idiot Ball, and the members of her crew toss her around for exercise in each episode. In one episode, Janeway contracts a fatal illness that gets suppressed on a certain planet, and the crew is faced with a choice... leave her on a planet where she can comfortably live the rest of her life, or make a deal with the Vidiians, a race with a documented history of hijacking star ships and harvesting the organs of everyone inside. One unusually rational member of the crew makes it clear that negotiating with the Vidiians is a recipe for disaster, only to be ignored with the expected results. Winning decisions like this are made throughout the series, making you wonder if the [=HoloDoc=] is there to remind them to breathe every five seconds.

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** Captain Picard takes the lead in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS6E24S7E1Descent}} Descent]]". Desperate to find Data and the Borg Borg, he orders most of the crew to a planet to look for them them, leaving a skeleton crew led by Crusher, and apparently mostly consisting of ensigns, to look after the ship. Most people, when deciding how to split their resources, would go with using their highly experienced officers to operate the ship; ship, leaving wandering about looking behind bushes to the lesser lights.
** It was Riker's turn to hold the Idiot Ball in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E17SamaritanSnare}} Samaritan Snare]]". Riker sends [=LaForge=] over to a Pakled ship (the crew of which seems exceptionally slow) to do some requested repairs. Worf objects to sending them the Enterprise's chief engineer, but Riker blows it off. Troi tells him directly that she's suspicious and feels that [=LaForge=] La Forge is in danger. Riker blows if off again. Then Geordi gets captured because Worf and Troi were right and Riker ignored them. Scriptwriter Dennis Russell Bailey, who wrote the screenplay for "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E20TinMan}} Tin Man]]" in the following season said, "The point at which we became serious about trying to write a script for the show was about five minutes after watching 'Samaritan Snare,' which in my personal opinion was the most abysmal piece of Star Trek ever filmed. My objections to it were that it always resorted to idiot plotting to make the story work, and that offended me a great deal worse than some of the awful shows which were done on the original series. I thought the way in which it was plotted and the way it was dealt with was an insult to the intelligence of the people who watched the show and the actors and characters in the show. None of the plot could have happened if all of the characters hadn't suddenly became morons that week."
** The entire episode of "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E12TheHighGround}} The High Ground]]" is the result of Dr. Crusher holding the IdiotBall. In the opening, a terrorist bomb explodes nearby the cast and injures several citzens of the planet the crew is on, so Dr. Crusher recklessly goes over to administer medical attention without any security or other means of protection, as she is prone to do, and a couple minutes later one of the terrorists warps in, grabs Crusher Crusher, and warps out, kidnapping her. The entire episode is spent trying to locate and rescue her. However, the viewer will probably notice the IdiotBall moment when the viewer realizes that Crusher could have immediately pressed her combadge and said the 7 seven words she says practically every episode where Crusher is with a patient somewhere off of the Enterprise: "Enterprise, (insert number of patients plus Dr. Crusher here) to beam directly to sickbay" Sickbay" just about immediately after the bomb blast, avoiding being kidnapped and thus avoiding the entire plot of the episode.
* ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'': Captain Janeway practically ''is'' an Idiot Ball, and the members of her crew toss her around for exercise in each episode. In one episode, Janeway contracts a fatal illness that gets suppressed on a certain planet, and the crew is faced with a choice... leave choice: Leave her on a planet where she can comfortably live the rest of her life, or make a deal with the Vidiians, a race with a documented history of hijacking star ships and harvesting the organs of everyone inside. One unusually rational member of the crew makes it clear that negotiating with the Vidiians is a recipe for disaster, only to be ignored with the expected results. Winning decisions like this are made throughout the series, making you wonder if the [=HoloDoc=] is there to remind them to breathe every five seconds.
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** This trope appears where a string of increasingly hand-bangingly moronic decisions on the part of Marshall and Lily ends with them buying an apartment they don't need to own located near a sewage plant they never bothered to find out about with a slanted floor they never inspected for and a mortgage they can't afford due to debt they could have avoided. Future!Ted, narrating from the year 2030 and gifted with 20/20 hindsight, lampshades every idiotic decision by showing them saying something level-headed and mature, [[LemonyNarrator interjecting with "... is what he/she/we SHOULD have said"]], and then showing the stupid thing they ''actually'' did. Basically, a cautionary tale to his kids showing them how even people who should know better do really stupid things sometimes, so that they won't repeat their Aunt and Uncle's mistakes.
** When Marshall shaves a streak of his hair on his wedding day, Ted and Barney come up with many ideas to make the situation better because they honestly don't know what to do. Barney even suggests wearing a Native American (AKA American Indian) headdress which is close to the real, and simple, solution that Lilly comes up with. Just wear a hat.

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** This trope appears where a string of increasingly hand-bangingly moronic decisions on the part of Marshall and Lily ends with them buying an apartment they don't need to own located near a sewage plant they never bothered to find out about with a slanted floor they never inspected for and a mortgage they can't afford due to debt they could have avoided. Future!Ted, narrating from the year 2030 and gifted with 20/20 hindsight, lampshades every idiotic decision by showing them saying something level-headed and mature, [[LemonyNarrator interjecting with "... is what he/she/we SHOULD have said"]], and then showing the stupid thing they ''actually'' did. Basically, a cautionary tale to his kids showing them how even people who should know better do really stupid things sometimes, so that they won't repeat their Aunt aunt and Uncle's uncle's mistakes.
** When Marshall shaves a streak of his hair on his wedding day, Ted and Barney come up with many ideas to make the situation better because they honestly don't know what to do. Barney even suggests wearing a Native American (AKA American Indian) headdress which is close to the real, and simple, solution that Lilly Lily comes up with. Just wear a hat.
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