History IdiotBall / ComicBooks

15th Sep '17 7:49:46 PM RoninMacbeth
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*** Depending on how you interpret JMS' willingness to write the story, this might be a rare case of IdiotPlot being {{Enforced}}.

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*** Depending on how you interpret JMS' willingness to write the story, this might be a rare case of IdiotPlot and IdiotBall being {{Enforced}}.
15th Sep '17 7:46:54 PM RoninMacbeth
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*** Depending on how you interpret JMS' willingness to write the story, this might be a rare case of IdiotPlot being {{Enforced}}.
30th Aug '17 5:38:24 PM zealots
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* All-Star [[ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica JSA]] Cyclone. Little Maxine Hunkel seems to have no idea that she should use her powers in combat these days. All she ever does in a fight is freeze up and scream for help. And this is not against extradimensional horrors or powerful supervillains but against petty mooks the rest of the JSA are clobbering without breaking a sweat. She should be standing in the middle of a screaming tornado with mooks being flung through the air, but instead hunches up and whimpers as they move in for the kill.

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* All-Star [[ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica JSA]] Cyclone. Little Maxine Hunkel seems to have no idea that she should use her powers in combat these days. All she ever does in a fight is freeze up and scream for help. And this is not against extradimensional horrors or powerful supervillains but against petty mooks the rest of the JSA are clobbering without breaking a sweat. She should be standing in the middle of a screaming tornado with mooks being flung through the air, but instead hunches up and whimpers as they move in for the kill. This behavior is made even more ridiculous when one remembers that Maxine spent a lot of time hanging around Magog, a member of the JSA that (for all his faults) had a habit of making sure the kids around him were combat-ready. So not only is poor Maxine consistently forgetting about her powers, she's forgetting all her JSA training period (even if Magog somehow missed training her, ''someone'' had to).



* ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' is one long game of Idiot Ball Hot Potato. The entire plot, from the Avengers ignoring the X-Men (who have decades of first-hand experience with the Phoenix Force), to Captain America showing up at Utopia ''demanding'' Hope be turned over, to Tony Stark trying to blow up the Phoenix Force, to attacking the Phoenix Five after they've turned Earth into a paradise, is dependent on pretty much everyone grabbing hold of the Idiot Ball and running with it for all they're worth.

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* ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' is one long game of Idiot Ball Hot Potato. The entire plot, from the Avengers ignoring the X-Men (who have decades of first-hand experience with the Phoenix Force), to the X-Men '''themselves''' forgetting all about their resident Phoenix expert Rachel Summers (who plays a remarkably small role in the crossover given her years of experience as Phoenix), to Captain America showing up at Utopia ''demanding'' Hope be turned over, to Tony Stark trying to blow up the Phoenix Force, to attacking the Phoenix Five after they've turned Earth into a paradise, is dependent on pretty much everyone grabbing hold of the Idiot Ball and running with it for all they're worth.


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* The last issue of ''ComicBook/UncannyXMen2015'' ends with master assassin Psylocke hunting down Magneto for getting a little too dirty with his DirtyBusiness and, despite the enormous power gap between them, actually managing to inflict a fatal wound on Mags. But rather than finish Magneto -- a man she ''knows'' has [[DeathIsCheap died and come back]] several times over -- she instead just opts to walk away and leave him to bleed out. Of course, moments after she leaves help arrives for Magneto in the form of the two omega-level mutants that are both healers and both feel indebted to him -- and both of whom Psylocke knows about.
28th Aug '17 6:43:08 AM CosmicFerret
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* There was a villain who blamed [[TheFlash Max Mercury]] for the death of his family, gained access to a time machine, and used it to try and destroy Max Mercury. He was temporarily incapacitated with horror when asked why he hadn't used it ''to save his family''.

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* There was a villain who blamed [[TheFlash [[ComicBook/TheFlash Max Mercury]] for the death of his family, gained access to a time machine, and used it to try and destroy Max Mercury. He was temporarily incapacitated with horror when asked why he hadn't used it ''to save his family''.



* ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'': ComicBook/{{Raven}} makes constant dives for the Idiot Ball. The first time, chronologically, was when she saved [[TheFlash Kid Flash]] from committing suicide via freezing to death in the Himalayas (points for creativity, Wally). She thought the best way to save his life was to make him fall in love with her using magic and then using the same magic to make him forget she did it. He went on with his life thinking she made him fall in love with her to get him on the team, ''not'' to save his life. Smooth move, Raven.

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* ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'': ComicBook/{{Raven}} makes constant dives for the Idiot Ball. The first time, chronologically, was when she saved [[TheFlash [[ComicBook/TheFlash Kid Flash]] from committing suicide via freezing to death in the Himalayas (points for creativity, Wally). She thought the best way to save his life was to make him fall in love with her using magic and then using the same magic to make him forget she did it. He went on with his life thinking she made him fall in love with her to get him on the team, ''not'' to save his life. Smooth move, Raven.
17th Jun '17 9:24:49 AM nombretomado
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** Parker supposedly went to those contacts, but it was shown that all of those people couldn't help him. That means guys who could take a left arm, brain, and half a heart and ''[[FromASingleCell rebuild a person from those pieces]]'' couldn't heal a gunshot wound. [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]], a man without any real medical knowledge, managed to build a super pacemaker [[MemeticMutation IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!]], but there was no one who could take care of a simple gunshot wound. This wasn't an idiot ball, this was a galactic-scale IdiotPlot. It was stated (exactly once, probably in an attempt at an AuthorsSavingThrow) that by the time Peter started making the rounds looking for help, May was already brain dead. There was, for all intents and purposes, no one left to save. Still doesn't explain why none of Spidey's allies stepped up to offer assistance when word got out, especially when you consider that Reed Richards of the Comicbook/FantasticFour once ''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome built a portal to heaven and accosted God-Mode Jack Kirby]]'' to get Benjamin Grimm back from the dead. Most of them, especially Comicbook/DoctorStrange, spouted some vague ObstructiveCodeOfConduct stuff to refuse helping (never mind how each is perfectly willing to spank reality whenever convenient). At least they offered the good advice that Peter should let his worries go and just enjoy his last day with his aunt. Sadly, despite the entire universe telling him this is a bad idea, [[JoeQuesada Joe-- err, Peter]] couldn't stand to see his mother figure die because of his enemies. The guy's also best friends with most of the X-Men, who have on their team an Omega-class mutant (Elixir) who was able to bring Shadowcat, Colossus, and several other mutants back from total death. What keeps him from bringing May back? This is a ''reeeeally'' glaring plothole, because apparently there is '''ABSOLUTELY NO-ONE IN THE ENTIRE MARVEL UNIVERSE''' that can help her. Hell, Doctor Doom of all people was completely unable to do anything!

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** Parker supposedly went to those contacts, but it was shown that all of those people couldn't help him. That means guys who could take a left arm, brain, and half a heart and ''[[FromASingleCell rebuild a person from those pieces]]'' couldn't heal a gunshot wound. [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]], a man without any real medical knowledge, managed to build a super pacemaker [[MemeticMutation IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!]], but there was no one who could take care of a simple gunshot wound. This wasn't an idiot ball, this was a galactic-scale IdiotPlot. It was stated (exactly once, probably in an attempt at an AuthorsSavingThrow) that by the time Peter started making the rounds looking for help, May was already brain dead. There was, for all intents and purposes, no one left to save. Still doesn't explain why none of Spidey's allies stepped up to offer assistance when word got out, especially when you consider that Reed Richards of the Comicbook/FantasticFour once ''[[CrowningMomentOfAwesome built a portal to heaven and accosted God-Mode Jack Kirby]]'' to get Benjamin Grimm back from the dead. Most of them, especially Comicbook/DoctorStrange, spouted some vague ObstructiveCodeOfConduct stuff to refuse helping (never mind how each is perfectly willing to spank reality whenever convenient). At least they offered the good advice that Peter should let his worries go and just enjoy his last day with his aunt. Sadly, despite the entire universe telling him this is a bad idea, [[JoeQuesada [[Creator/JoeQuesada Joe-- err, Peter]] couldn't stand to see his mother figure die because of his enemies. The guy's also best friends with most of the X-Men, who have on their team an Omega-class mutant (Elixir) who was able to bring Shadowcat, Colossus, and several other mutants back from total death. What keeps him from bringing May back? This is a ''reeeeally'' glaring plothole, because apparently there is '''ABSOLUTELY NO-ONE IN THE ENTIRE MARVEL UNIVERSE''' that can help her. Hell, Doctor Doom of all people was completely unable to do anything!
30th May '17 4:03:21 AM SorPepita
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* In ''ComicBook/TransformersTotalWar'', Megatron ''finally'' admits that [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Megatrong2idiot.jpg this is the sole reason]] he has trusted Starscream for so long, and while Optimus is tempted to record and exploit this confession, [[EnemyMine it really isn't the time.]]

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* In ''ComicBook/TransformersTotalWar'', ''Franchise/{{Transformers}} Total War'', Megatron ''finally'' admits that [[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:Megatrong2idiot.jpg this is the sole reason]] he has trusted Starscream for so long, and while Optimus is tempted to record and exploit this confession, [[EnemyMine it really isn't the time.]]
20th Apr '17 9:43:45 AM Taskmaster123
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* Actually, the ordinary citizens and government officials in both the Marvel and DC universes, despite knowing they coexist with very powerful individuals who are capable of inflicting a ''tremendous'' amount of damage if you piss them off or make them defend themselves, just can't seem to resist picking up the Idiot Ball. The short, quiet little guy with the weird haircut and the mutton-chop whiskers, sitting all by himself in the bar and quietly drinking a beer? Maybe you and your buddies trying to pick a fight with him ''just isn't a good idea.'' Instead of sending a entire armored division with both air and infantry support after the Hulk, as well as spending a large chunk of your annual budget, maybe you should do what the Hulk's been telling you to do for years and just ''leave him alone.'' The cute little girl in pigtails, sitting all by herself in a bus station in the middle of the night, with just a little puppy for company? Maybe she's a 1,000 year old sorceress traveling incognito, and the little puppy is actually her familiar, who will transform himself into a eight foot tall whirlwind of fangs and teeth to protect her. Therefore, trying to sweet-talk her into getting into your car ''might be the last thing you ever do.'' The man walking out all by himself in the middle of the night, who shows absolutely no trace of fear when you and your gang try to mug him? He might be a vigilante carrying enough firepower under his BadAssLongCoat to both start and end a war. The unshaven, filthy homeless man riding a subway in the middle of the night? Trying to douse him in lighter fluid and set him on fire might not work out the way you think, especially if he's bonded to a murderous symbiote that gives him all the powers of certain arachnid-based superhero but none of the self-restraint. There are hundreds if not thousands of examples of people who just won't learn.

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* Actually, the ordinary citizens and government officials in both the Marvel and DC universes, despite knowing they coexist with very powerful individuals who are capable of inflicting a ''tremendous'' amount of damage if you piss them off or make them defend themselves, just can't seem to resist picking up the Idiot Ball. The short, quiet little guy with the weird haircut and the mutton-chop whiskers, sitting all by himself in the bar and quietly drinking a beer? Maybe you and your buddies trying to pick a fight with him ''just isn't a good idea.'' Instead of sending a entire armored division with both air and infantry support after the Hulk, as well as spending a large chunk of your annual budget, maybe you should do what the Hulk's been telling you to do for years and just ''leave him alone.'' The cute little girl in pigtails, sitting all by herself in at a bus station stop in the middle of the night, with just a little puppy for company? Maybe she's a 1,000 year old sorceress traveling incognito, and the little puppy is actually her familiar, who will transform himself into a eight foot tall whirlwind of fangs and teeth claws to protect her. Therefore, trying to sweet-talk her into getting into your car ''might be the last thing you ever do.'' The man walking out all by himself in the middle of the night, who shows absolutely no trace of fear when you and your gang try to mug him? He might be a vigilante carrying enough firepower under his BadAssLongCoat to both start and end a war. The unshaven, filthy homeless man riding a subway in the middle of the night? Trying to douse him in lighter fluid and set him on fire might not work out the way you think, especially if he's bonded to a murderous symbiote that gives him all the powers of certain arachnid-based superhero but none of the self-restraint. There are hundreds if not thousands of examples of people who just won't learn.
20th Apr '17 9:38:53 AM Taskmaster123
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* Actually, the ordinary citizens and government officials in both the Marvel and DC universes, despite knowing they coexist with very powerful individuals who are capable of inflicting a ''tremendous'' amount of damage if you piss them off or make them defend themselves, just can't seem to resist picking up the Idiot Ball. The short, quiet little guy with the weird haircut and the mutton-chop whiskers, sitting all by himself in the bar and quietly drinking a beer? Maybe you and your buddies trying to pick a fight with him ''just isn't a good idea.'' Instead of sending a entire armored division with both air and infantry support after the Hulk, as well as spending a large chunk of your annual budget, maybe you should do what the Hulk's been telling you to do for years and just ''leave him alone." The cute little girl in pigtails, sitting all by herself in a bus station in the middle of the night, with just a little puppy for company? Maybe she's a 1,000 year old sorceress traveling incognito, and the little puppy is actually her familiar, who will transform himself into a eight foot tall whirlwind of fangs and teeth to protect her. Therefore, trying to sweet-talk her into getting into your car ''might be the last thing you ever do.'' The man walking out all by himself in the middle of the night, who shows absolutely no trace of fear when you and your gang try to mug him? He might be a vigilante carrying enough firepower under his BadAssLongCoat to both start and end a war. The unshaven, filthy homeless man riding a subway in the middle of the night? Trying to douse him in lighter fluid and set him on fire might not work out the way you think, especially if he's bonded to a murderous symbiote that gives him all the powers of certain arachnid-based superhero but none of the self-restraint. There are hundreds if not thousands of examples of people who just won't learn.

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* Actually, the ordinary citizens and government officials in both the Marvel and DC universes, despite knowing they coexist with very powerful individuals who are capable of inflicting a ''tremendous'' amount of damage if you piss them off or make them defend themselves, just can't seem to resist picking up the Idiot Ball. The short, quiet little guy with the weird haircut and the mutton-chop whiskers, sitting all by himself in the bar and quietly drinking a beer? Maybe you and your buddies trying to pick a fight with him ''just isn't a good idea.'' Instead of sending a entire armored division with both air and infantry support after the Hulk, as well as spending a large chunk of your annual budget, maybe you should do what the Hulk's been telling you to do for years and just ''leave him alone." '' The cute little girl in pigtails, sitting all by herself in a bus station in the middle of the night, with just a little puppy for company? Maybe she's a 1,000 year old sorceress traveling incognito, and the little puppy is actually her familiar, who will transform himself into a eight foot tall whirlwind of fangs and teeth to protect her. Therefore, trying to sweet-talk her into getting into your car ''might be the last thing you ever do.'' The man walking out all by himself in the middle of the night, who shows absolutely no trace of fear when you and your gang try to mug him? He might be a vigilante carrying enough firepower under his BadAssLongCoat to both start and end a war. The unshaven, filthy homeless man riding a subway in the middle of the night? Trying to douse him in lighter fluid and set him on fire might not work out the way you think, especially if he's bonded to a murderous symbiote that gives him all the powers of certain arachnid-based superhero but none of the self-restraint. There are hundreds if not thousands of examples of people who just won't learn.
20th Apr '17 9:35:45 AM Taskmaster123
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* Actually, the ordinary citizens and government officials in both the Marvel and DC universes, despite knowing they coexist with very powerful individuals who are capable of inflicting a ''tremendous'' amount of damage if you piss them off or make them defend themselves, just can't seem to resist picking up the Idiot Ball. The short, quiet little guy with the weird haircut and the mutton-chop whiskers, sitting all by himself in the bar and quietly drinking a beer? Maybe you and your buddies trying to pick a fight with him ''just isn't a good idea.'' Instead of sending a entire armored division with both air and infantry support after the Hulk, as well as spending a large chunk of your annual budget, maybe you should do what the Hulk's been telling you to do for years and just ''leave him alone." The cute little girl in pigtails, sitting all by herself in a bus station in the middle of the night, with just a little puppy for company? Maybe she's a 1,000 year old sorceress traveling incognito, and the little puppy is actually her familiar, who will transform himself into a eight foot tall whirlwind of fangs and teeth to protect her. Therefore, trying to sweet-talk her into getting into your car ''might be the last thing you ever do.'' The man walking out all by himself in the middle of the night, who shows absolutely no trace of fear when you and your gang try to mug him? He might be a vigilante carrying enough firepower under his BadAssLongCoat to both start and end a war. The unshaven, filthy homeless man riding a subway in the middle of the night? Trying to douse him in lighter fluid and set him on fire might not work out the way you think, especially if he's bonded to a murderous symbiote that gives him all the powers of certain arachnid-based superhero but none of the self-restraint. There are hundreds if not thousands of examples of people who just won't learn.
26th Feb '17 8:40:16 AM Acomicfan1
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* ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'' was essentially the same thing as ''[=AvX=]'', with everyone close to Peter not realizing his humongous TookALevelInJerkass was because Dr. Octopus took over his body and those who ''could'' being stopped or being incapacitated in some way.
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