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1st Jun '16 7:26:28 AM Willbyr
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* {{Claymore}}: Teresa is antagonized by a group of bandits who know she's extremely powerful (they just don't realize [[StoryBreakerPower how far]] the "extremely" goes with her) but [[ThouShaltNotKill strictly forbidden from taking human lives]], but lets them go free and ([[AnArmAndALeg almost]]) completely undamaged, until they, being [[RapePillageAndBurn exactly]] the [[KickTheDog type]] of cruel assholes one would expect bandits to be, eventually provoke her into breaking that rule by torturing her protege. As far as anyone knows, AintNoRule about incapacitating them nonlethally, and bringing in humans who are willing to kill to protect their families from bandits to do what she isn't allowed to. Later on, when her erstwhile comrades are hunting her, she decides to kill Priscilla because she has the potential to challenge her in the future, and fails to do so several times despite every opportunity.
* Anime/ValvraveTheLiberator:[[spoiler: Shouko and the others hand Haruto and L-Elf over to the forces of Arus and Dorssia, in exchange for being allowed to leave ''after'' they had killed just about most of the student body. Not only did this ''not'' work, but the moment they got their hands on them they prepared to blast them away and it took a HeroicSacrifice to let them escape.]]

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* {{Claymore}}: ''Manga/{{Claymore}}'': Teresa is antagonized by a group of bandits who know she's extremely powerful (they just don't realize [[StoryBreakerPower how far]] the "extremely" goes with her) but [[ThouShaltNotKill strictly forbidden from taking human lives]], but lets them go free and ([[AnArmAndALeg almost]]) completely undamaged, until they, being [[RapePillageAndBurn exactly]] the [[KickTheDog type]] of cruel assholes one would expect bandits to be, eventually provoke her into breaking that rule by torturing her protege. As far as anyone knows, AintNoRule about incapacitating them nonlethally, and bringing in humans who are willing to kill to protect their families from bandits to do what she isn't allowed to. Later on, when her erstwhile comrades are hunting her, she decides to kill Priscilla because she has the potential to challenge her in the future, and fails to do so several times despite every opportunity.
* Anime/ValvraveTheLiberator:[[spoiler: Shouko ''Anime/ValvraveTheLiberator'': [[spoiler:Shouko and the others hand Haruto and L-Elf over to the forces of Arus and Dorssia, in exchange for being allowed to leave ''after'' they had killed just about most of the student body. Not only did this ''not'' work, but the moment they got their hands on them they prepared to blast them away and it took a HeroicSacrifice to let them escape.]]



* Manga/TheWorldGodOnlyKnows: In the last bit of the Goddess Arc. Keima has to choose between pursuing Ayumi and Chihiro. Chihiro has confessed her love, but not to remembering her conquest. Ayumi hears said confession, and goes from being tsundere to kindly and supportive. Keima tries for Chihiro first even though his normal game rhetoric would tend to proclaim the obvious choice was the wrong one. More than that, three of the previous goddesses had strong thematic links with their hosts (Apollo goddess of music and art is in idol singer Kanon, Mars goddess of war is in boisterous, aggressive Yui, and Minerva goddess of wisdom is in bookworm Shiori). Merucy/Mercurius is the fleet footed messenger goddess, and Ayumi is the track star.
* The Island arc in Manga/AssassinationClassroom is centered aroud Class E's assassination attempt on the titular vacation island. Everyone has lots of fun during the day, including Koro-Sensei, who gets so sunburned he becomes charred black. Fortunately, he has a "molt the skin" technique that can be used once per month and is usually used to leave a decoy. Too bad it uses quite a lot of energy, enough to slow him down... and that Koro-Sensei promised to let the students prepare an assassination attempt that very night... and that [[spoiler:he also promised to let them shoot 7 tentacles, which, just by itself, reduces his speed to a '''1/16th''' of his normal speed of Mach 20]].

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* Manga/TheWorldGodOnlyKnows: ''Manga/TheWorldGodOnlyKnows'': In the last bit of the Goddess Arc. Keima has to choose between pursuing Ayumi and Chihiro. Chihiro has confessed her love, but not to remembering her conquest. Ayumi hears said confession, and goes from being tsundere to kindly and supportive. Keima tries for Chihiro first even though his normal game rhetoric would tend to proclaim the obvious choice was the wrong one. More than that, three of the previous goddesses had strong thematic links with their hosts (Apollo goddess of music and art is in idol singer Kanon, Mars goddess of war is in boisterous, aggressive Yui, and Minerva goddess of wisdom is in bookworm Shiori). Merucy/Mercurius is the fleet footed messenger goddess, and Ayumi is the track star.
* ''Manga/AssassinationClassroom'':
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The Island arc in Manga/AssassinationClassroom is centered aroud Class E's assassination attempt on the titular vacation island. Everyone has lots of fun during the day, including Koro-Sensei, who gets so sunburned he becomes charred black. Fortunately, he has a "molt the skin" technique that can be used once per month and is usually used to leave a decoy. Too bad it uses quite a lot of energy, enough to slow him down... and that Koro-Sensei promised to let the students prepare an assassination attempt that very night... and that [[spoiler:he also promised to let them shoot 7 tentacles, which, just by itself, reduces his speed to a '''1/16th''' of his normal speed of Mach 20]].



* ''Anime/{{Kagewani}}'' has Takeru still trying to get cryptid footage for his documentary despite the fact that his crew were killed in the forest by said cryptid.

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* ''Anime/{{Kagewani}}'' has Takeru still trying to get cryptid footage for his documentary despite the fact that his crew were killed in the forest by said cryptid.cryptid.

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29th May '16 9:10:13 PM Willbyr
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--->'''Mai''': Well... That was easy.
--->'''Pilaf''': [[LampshadeHanging I didn't think there]] ''[[LampshadeHanging were]]'' [[LampshadeHanging people that stupid]].

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--->'''Mai''': Well... That was easy.
--->'''Pilaf''':
easy.\\
'''Pilaf''':
[[LampshadeHanging I didn't think there]] ''[[LampshadeHanging were]]'' [[LampshadeHanging people that stupid]].



* Ciel Phantomhive is thrown the idiot ball in the second season of the ''[[BlackButler Kuroshitsuji]]'' anime, when he doesn't question why Soma knows him and Ciel himself doesn't remember him. Instead of wondering about this also, Sebastian answers with "Foreigners are difficult to understand."

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* Ciel Phantomhive is thrown the idiot ball in the second season of the ''[[BlackButler ''[[Manga/BlackButler Kuroshitsuji]]'' anime, when he doesn't question why Soma knows him and Ciel himself doesn't remember him. Instead of wondering about this also, Sebastian answers with "Foreigners are difficult to understand."
26th May '16 12:06:27 PM sentairider42
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** During the invasion of Konoha, Orochimaru is in a position to kill the Third Hokage with a kunai. Instead of doing that, he backs off and summons reinforcements and makes a few long-winded speeches. The battle doesn't end well for him.

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** During the invasion of Konoha, Orochimaru is in a position to kill the Third Hokage with a kunai. [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim Instead of doing that, that,]] [[ComplexityAddiction he backs off and summons reinforcements reinforcements]] [[JustBetweenYouAndMe and makes a few long-winded speeches. speeches.]] The battle doesn't end well for him.
28th Mar '16 9:37:34 AM ObsidianFire
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* An episode near the end of ''LightNovel/{{Slayers}} NEXT'' put the plot on hold just to show a fight sequence with a BrainwashedAndCrazy Gourry. Which wouldn't have been so bad if the villain hadn't slapped a really bad helmet on Gourry (and disguised him with nothing else) and also required the cast to A) Not see through the paper thin disguise B) Apparently forget that Gourry was kidnapped ''one episode ago'' C) Not assume that the blond guy dressed like Gourry and wielding the Sword of Light and fighting exactly like Gourry actually ''was'' Gourry. The characters would even constantly point out that he seemed familiar, but amazingly, despite the fact this is ''Slayers'', they seemed to lose their GenreSavvy natures for the duration of the episode and the viewer was supposed to take it all seriously.

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* An episode near the end of ''LightNovel/{{Slayers}} NEXT'' put the plot on hold just to show a fight sequence with a BrainwashedAndCrazy Gourry. Which wouldn't have been so bad if the villain hadn't slapped a really bad helmet on Gourry (and disguised him with nothing else) and also required the cast to A) Not see through the paper thin disguise B) Apparently forget that Gourry was kidnapped ''one episode ago'' C) Not assume that the blond guy dressed like Gourry and wielding the Sword of Light and fighting exactly like Gourry actually ''was'' Gourry. The characters would even constantly point out that he seemed familiar, but amazingly, despite the fact this is ''Slayers'', they seemed to lose their GenreSavvy intelligent natures for the duration of the episode and the viewer was supposed to take it all seriously.



* [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyouko]] got more of an [[WrongGenreSavvy Optimism Ball]] that worked ''too'' well. She believes [[WeaselMascot Kyuubey]] that [[spoiler: Sayaka could be turned back from a witch, despite the fact that Kyuubey admitted to setting up the whole thing]]. She doesn't ask Homura, who has known about the whole system from the start, if he's [[YouDidntAsk withholding information]]. Finally, she brings Madoka (who is completely defenseless) to the fight, while Kyouko herself has a dimmed Soul Gem from overuse of magic. [[spoiler: It ends with a SuicideAttack, per Kyuubey's BatmanGambit.]]

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* [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyouko]] got more of an [[WrongGenreSavvy Optimism Ball]] Ball that worked ''too'' well. She believes [[WeaselMascot Kyuubey]] that [[spoiler: Sayaka could be turned back from a witch, despite the fact that Kyuubey admitted to setting up the whole thing]]. She doesn't ask Homura, who has known about the whole system from the start, if he's [[YouDidntAsk withholding information]]. Finally, she brings Madoka (who is completely defenseless) to the fight, while Kyouko herself has a dimmed Soul Gem from overuse of magic. [[spoiler: It ends with a SuicideAttack, per Kyuubey's BatmanGambit.]]



* A rather frustrating example occurs in the Death 13 mini-arc of Part 3 of ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'', where ''everyone'' carries the IdiotBall. Everyone except Kakyoin refuses to believe that a baby (the villain of that particular mini-arc) could be a stand user (when they've already encountered a stand-using orangutan, so a stand-using baby shouldn't be that hard to believe) while Kakyoin (normally one of the calmer members of the group) resorts to hysterics to try and convince everyone. The frustrating part comes from the fact that they're normally GenreSavvy [[ProperlyParanoid bordering on paranoid]], immediately assuming that anything unusual happening is the result of an enemy stand.

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* A rather frustrating example occurs in the Death 13 mini-arc of Part 3 of ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'', where ''everyone'' carries the IdiotBall. Everyone except Kakyoin refuses to believe that a baby (the villain of that particular mini-arc) could be a stand user (when they've already encountered a stand-using orangutan, so a stand-using baby shouldn't be that hard to believe) while Kakyoin (normally one of the calmer members of the group) resorts to hysterics to try and convince everyone. The frustrating part comes from the fact that they're normally GenreSavvy [[ProperlyParanoid bordering on paranoid]], ProperlyParanoid, immediately assuming that anything unusual happening is the result of an enemy stand.
23rd Mar '16 5:11:45 PM Wyldchyld
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** Kyoraku's decision to make Zaraki more useful in battle against the Sternritter results in getting a Shinigami killed, something he knew in advance would happen and carried through anyway. [[spoiler:His first act as Captain-Commander is to order Unohana to [[DuelToTheDeath power up]] Zaraki. The Gotei 13 loses just over 2500 out of 6000 men in the first Vandenreich invasion and the Royal Guard prioritises the Soul King over helping out. Even though Yamamoto never let her fight, and Zaraki does get powered up (but not enough, it turns out), it costs Unohana her life and the Gotei 13 its best healer.]]]]

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** Kyoraku's decision to make Zaraki more useful in battle against the Sternritter results in getting a Shinigami killed, something he knew in advance would happen and carried through anyway. [[spoiler:His first act as Captain-Commander is to order Unohana to [[DuelToTheDeath power up]] Zaraki. The Gotei 13 loses just over 2500 out of 6000 men in the first Vandenreich invasion and the Royal Guard prioritises the Soul King over helping out. Even though Yamamoto never let her fight, and Zaraki does get powered up (but not enough, it turns out), it costs Unohana her life and the Gotei 13 its best healer.]]]]]]
23rd Mar '16 5:11:15 PM Wyldchyld
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* In ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'', Urahara has the Idiot Ball when he knows about Aizen's plan to kidnap Orihime and use her powers on the Hogyoku and wounded Arrancar, but instead tells Orihime that she can't fight because she's unable to use Tsubaki. Orihime then, believing that she's not strong enough to fight, goes with Rukia to the Soul Society, and on her way back, gets kidnapped. At no point does Urahara attempt to confirm her whereabouts or keep her out of the fight. What he should have done was keep her with him at his shop where, if any of Aizen's flunkies wanted to get at her, they would have to first contend with him, Yoruichi, Tessai, Ururu, Jinta and Renji.
** Zommari Leroux. He could have easily ended his fight with Byakuya immediately, but was too arrogant to finish him off quickly. Lampshaded in the battle, Byakuya bluntly tells him how much of an idiot he's being to reveal his powers to quickly and freely.
** Kaname Tousen. During his fight with Zaraki, he wasted time lecturing him even though Zaraki couldn't hear him. [[spoiler: Later, he's toying with Hisagi and Komamura with his hollow mask alone. Yet he decides to use his resurrección, apparently without having tested before hand. Once he uses it he gets so intoxicated by his newly gained sight that he fails to notice Hisagi sneaking up behind him, and gets stabbed in the head as a result]].
** In Ichigo's second fight with Ulquiorra, [[ClingyJealousGirl Loly and Menoly]] grab Orihime and start beating her. When Ichigo runs over to help, [[TooDumbToLive turning his back to Ulquiorra in the process]], Loly pulls Orihime in front of her and warns him not to come closer or she'll [[EyeScream gouge her eyes out]]. What does Ichigo do? ''Keeps running closer'', and even ''throws a [[BeamSpam Getsuga Tensho]] at them'', even though '''Orihime was being used as a HumanShield''' and would likely have been killed by ''his'' attack if [[VillainousRescue Ulquiorra hadn't intervened]]. WhatTheHellHero
*** Heck, Ichigo challenging Ulquiorra to a second fight at all. The guy almost killed you in less than a minute without even trying, your best attack did almost nothing to him, it's only been ''two hours'' since your last fight, you have done zero training since then, his '''inferiors''' kicked your ass, and you not only charge in for a rematch, you actually ''expect to win?'' Wanting to rescue Orihime is one thing, but that's not trying to rescue her, that's tantamount [[SuicideByCop Suicide By Espada]]; ''rescuing'' her would involve grabbing her and getting the hell out of Dodge, not trying to fight the guy guarding her.
*** That entire fight was made of stupid. Besides the above examples, Ichigo telling her not to "interfere" again, Orihime crying over [[spoiler: Ichigo's dead body]] instead of trying to help Uryu, Ulquiorra not grabbing Orihime and flying away when the fight turned sour...seriously, the only one ''not'' holding an IdiotBall was Uryu.
*** And back to Ichigo one more time as after he finds that his SuperPoweredEvilSide has shredded it's way through Ulquiorra he begins freaking out about not wanting the fight to go that way. So on the face of it we get to see him placing honor in front of the whole rescue mission they're risking their lives to do but even if you accept that what's NOT acceptable is Ichigo's immediate demand that Ulquiorra start chopping off some of his limbs so the fight can be fair again. The final nail in how ridiculous that is is that Ulquiorra went to great lengths to explain that he has regeneration powers and can explicitly restore lost limbs, if Ichigo really wanted to make things fair again all he would have to do is stop and let Ulquiorra naturally heal.
*** The most JustForFun/{{egregious}} example of idiot ballage is perhaps when they break into the enemy headquarters full off some of the most powerful enemies they've had to that point and ''decide to split up''. Apparently only because of a few individuals' sense of pride -- it's kind of sad when Ichigo the resident reckless hero, is actually the voice of reason that gets summarily ignored.
** The Vandenreich, initially introduced as DangerouslyGenreSavvy opponents who know not to screw around, end up juggling it as their initial invasion of Soul Society progressed. At first they slaughter their way through the Shinigami without saying a word, but eventually start chatting them up (which even their commander and second-in-command acknowledge is a problem.) In fact, two of them are KilledMidSentence while [[ExplainingYourPowersToTheEnemy explaining their powers.]] The one who stole Chojiro's bankai thinks that having it means that Yamamoto is no match for him (Yamamoto being the guy who beat their supreme leader in the past) and three of them jump Yamamoto right when he's fighting their leader, with them ending up fried by his zanpakto. The last one is particularly bad because one of the guys who did it was As Nodt, who managed to overcome Byakuya and decided to take Yamamoto bare handed despite having at least three different ranged abilities he could have used. [[BadassGrandpa Yamamoto]] [[OffhandBackhand takes out all three instantly with just a brief glance away from his enemy.]]
** The Vandenreich's second attack has been more prone to this trope than the first. A rather blatant case with Cang Du, who up until then had not said a single word and been presented as TheStoic. In this invasion, the first thing he does when confronting Hitsugaya is explain his personal beliefs, giving Histugaya the opportunity to [[spoiler:get back his bankai. Seriously, what was he thinking? Especially considering Bazz-B had almost killed Hitsugaya beforehand.]]
** The usually GenreSavvy Kyoraku gets hit with a surprisingly bad example of this, when, [[spoiler:as the newly-instated Captain-Commander of the Gotei 13]], he has [[spoiler:Unohana partake in a DuelToTheDeath with Kenpachi so that the latter can get stronger]]. [[AllThereInTheManual The Gotei 13 has about 3000 members or so, approximately 200 to a Squad]]; at the end of the Vandenreich's ''initial'' attack on the Soul Society, the number of casualties is recorded to be ''[[KillEmAll over 2500]]''. What's worse, the Royal Guard, who ''might'' stand a chance against [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil this new threat]], is established to only care about protecting [[FisherKing the Soul King]] and the rest of the Royal Family (and not the Seireitei), as evidenced by their arrival ''after'' Vandenreich butchered the Gotei 13 (though they ''did'' [[spoiler:help train Ichigo, Rukia, Renji, and Byakuya after healing their injuries]]). As such, [[spoiler:Unohana ends up dying in mortal combat after getting Kenpachi to stop subconsciously limiting his power, so instead of the Gotei 13 having both Unohana--their best healer ''and'' second-strongest combatant (after Yamamoto) going into her duel with Kenpachi--and Kenpachi (who could have been brought up to his current level ''without'' Unohana dying), they're short one ''very'' versatile and effective CombatMedic. (Shinji even notes in 581--as four Sternritters [[GenreSavvy invoke]] WorfHadTheFlu and attempt to kill a heavily worn-down Kenpachi, whom Shinji says is the ''only'' character capable of putting up a fight at the moment--that while Momo is a good enough healer, she's nowhere close to Unohana's level of expertise.)]] It's a good thing for them that [[spoiler:[[BigDamnHeroes Ichigo arrived in the nick of time to bail out Kenpachi]]]] because if things did go south during the Vandenreich's current assault (which could still happen now that [[spoiler:Yhwach has infiltrated the Royal Palace]]), the Soul Society would be done for.
** ''Bleach'''s {{Filler}} arcs have a lot of characters holding the IdiotBall, but BigBad Muramasa from the Zanpakutou Tales Arc deserves a [[TooDumbToLive special mention]]. Early on, [[AloofBigBrother Byakuya Kuchiki]] apparently defects to the Zanpakutou's side. The only reason he gives is that he's [[MathematiciansAnswer protecting his pride]] - something that no one in the team actually believes in (everyone thinks he must have some sort of plan). While Muramasa does suspect that Byakuya's motives aren't really those he states, he still [[WhatAnIdiot lets him tag along to the Real World]], when he is at his weakest, to help him release his master, Kouga Kuchiki. What do you know, turns out Byakuya is a FakeDefector, whose real reason to follow Muramasa is to have an opportunity of killing Kouga as the current leader of the Kuchiki Clan, and he goes on to do just that. Okay, so Kouga Kuchiki is a {{Jerkass}} who, upon awakening, tries to [[KickTheDog kill his Zanpakutou]]... Still, one can't help but wonder what would be Muramasa's reaction when he realized he indirectly caused his master's death.

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* In ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'', ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'':
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Urahara has the Idiot Ball when he knows about Aizen's plan Orihime's powers will interest Aizen enough to kidnap Orihime and use her powers on the Hogyoku and wounded Arrancar, her, but instead only tells Orihime that she can't fight to stay off the battlefield because she's unable to use Tsubaki. Rukia take Orihime then, believing that she's not strong enough to fight, goes with Rukia to the Soul Society, and Society to make Orihime a stronger fighter, but Orihime is kidnapped on her way back, gets kidnapped. back home. At no point does Urahara attempt to confirm her whereabouts or keep her out of tabs on Orihime and, as an expert in breaking into the fight. What he should have done was keep her with him at his shop where, if allegedly unbreakable Dangai, he'll know that location is as vulnerable to attack as any of Aizen's flunkies wanted to get at her, they other. She would have been safer remaining at the Urahara Shop where she'd have to first contend with him, Yoruichi, Tessai, Ururu, Jinta and Renji.
Renji.
** Zommari Leroux. He could have easily ended his fight with Byakuya immediately, but was too arrogant immediately by going for a headshot before Byakuya knew what his power could do. Instead, Zommari used his own arrogance to finish him off quickly. try and bring down Byakuya's arrogance. Lampshaded in during the battle, battle when Byakuya bluntly tells him how much of an idiot he's being been to reveal his powers to too quickly and freely.
** Kaname Tousen. During his fight with Zaraki, he Tousen wasted time lecturing him even though Zaraki couldn't hear during their fight, despite Zaraki being incapable of hearing him. [[spoiler: Later, he's toying with It gives Zaraki time to adapt to Tousen's Bankai and defeat him. When Tousen later fights Hisagi and Komamura with his hollow mask alone. Yet Komamura, he decides to use his resurrección, apparently Resurrección without having tested testing it before hand. Once he uses it he gets He had been toying with his opponents previously, but after the power up becomes so intoxicated by his newly gained newly-gained sight that he fails to notice Hisagi sneaking up behind him, drops his guard and gets stabbed in ambushed by Hisagi. Hisagi lampshades this at the head as a result]].
** In Ichigo's second fight with Ulquiorra, [[ClingyJealousGirl Loly and Menoly]] grab Orihime and start beating her. When Ichigo runs over to help, [[TooDumbToLive turning his back to Ulquiorra in the process]], Loly pulls Orihime in front of her and warns him not to come closer or she'll [[EyeScream gouge her eyes out]]. What does Ichigo do? ''Keeps running closer'', and even ''throws a [[BeamSpam Getsuga Tensho]] at them'', even though '''Orihime was being used as a HumanShield''' and would likely have been killed by ''his'' attack if [[VillainousRescue Ulquiorra hadn't intervened]]. WhatTheHellHero
*** Heck, Ichigo challenging Ulquiorra to a second fight at all. The guy almost killed you in less than a minute without even trying, your best attack did almost nothing to him, it's only been ''two hours'' since your last fight, you have done zero training since then, his '''inferiors''' kicked your ass, and you not only charge in for a rematch, you actually ''expect to win?'' Wanting to rescue Orihime is one thing, but that's not trying to rescue her, that's tantamount [[SuicideByCop Suicide By Espada]]; ''rescuing'' her would involve grabbing her and getting the hell out of Dodge, not trying to fight the guy guarding her.
*** That entire fight was made of stupid. Besides the above examples, Ichigo telling her not to "interfere" again, Orihime crying over [[spoiler: Ichigo's dead body]] instead of trying to help Uryu, Ulquiorra not grabbing Orihime and flying away when the fight turned sour...seriously, the only one ''not'' holding an IdiotBall was Uryu.
*** And back to Ichigo one more time as after he finds that his SuperPoweredEvilSide has shredded it's way through Ulquiorra he begins freaking out about not wanting the fight to go that way. So on the face of it we get to see him placing honor in front
end of the whole rescue mission they're risking their lives to do but even if you accept that what's NOT acceptable is Ichigo's immediate demand that Ulquiorra start chopping off some of his limbs so the fight can be fair again. The final nail in how ridiculous that is is that Ulquiorra went to great lengths to explain that he has regeneration powers and can explicitly restore lost limbs, if Ichigo really wanted to make things fair again all he would have to do is stop and let Ulquiorra naturally heal.
*** The most JustForFun/{{egregious}} example of idiot ballage is perhaps when they break into the enemy headquarters full off some of the most powerful enemies they've had to that point and ''decide to split up''. Apparently only because of a few individuals' sense of pride -- it's kind of sad when Ichigo the resident reckless hero, is actually the voice of reason that gets summarily ignored.
battle.
** The Vandenreich, Vandenreich are initially introduced as DangerouslyGenreSavvy ruthless opponents who know not to screw around, end up juggling it as their initial invasion take advantage of Soul Society progressed. At first they slaughter their way through the Shinigami without saying a word, but eventually habit of explaining their powers. As they become more exposed to the Shinigami, they become more talkative and also start chatting them up (which even explaining their commander powers. The Vandenreich leader and his second-in-command acknowledge is discuss this being a problem.) In fact, problem, but two of them are get KilledMidSentence while [[ExplainingYourPowersToTheEnemy explaining their powers.]] The and the one who stole steals Chojiro's bankai Bankai thinks that having it means that Yamamoto is no his success makes him a match for him (Yamamoto being the guy who beat their supreme leader in the past) and three of them jump Yamamoto right when he's fighting their leader, with them ending up fried by his zanpakto. The last one Yamamoto. He's wrong. As Nodt is introduced as particularly bad because one of the guys who did it was As Nodt, who managed to overcome Byakuya calculating and decided ruthless to take defeat Byakuya, but is later seen joining two other Sternritter in ambushing Yamamoto. It forces Yamamoto bare handed despite having at least three different ranged abilities he could have used. [[BadassGrandpa Yamamoto]] to look away from his opponent to deal with them, but that's [[OffhandBackhand takes out all three instantly with just a brief glance away from his enemy.]]
it does]].
** The Vandenreich's second attack has been more prone to this trope than the first. A rather blatant case with Cang Du, who up Du is mostly a silent character until then had not said a single word and been presented as TheStoic. In this invasion, the first thing he does when confronting Hitsugaya is explain confronts Hitsugaya. He explains his personal beliefs, giving Histugaya the opportunity which buys enough time for Hitsugaya to [[spoiler:get back benefit from Urahara's intervention to restore his bankai. Seriously, what was he thinking? Especially considering Bankai. Bazz-B had almost killed Hitsugaya beforehand.]]
Hitsugaya, but Cang Du wastes it. Lampshaded in-universe by both Bazz-B and Yhwach himself.
** The usually GenreSavvy Kyoraku gets hit with a surprisingly bad example of this, when, [[spoiler:as Kyoraku's decision to make Zaraki more useful in battle against the newly-instated Sternritter results in getting a Shinigami killed, something he knew in advance would happen and carried through anyway. [[spoiler:His first act as Captain-Commander of the Gotei 13]], he has [[spoiler:Unohana partake in a DuelToTheDeath with Kenpachi so that the latter can get stronger]]. [[AllThereInTheManual is to order Unohana to [[DuelToTheDeath power up]] Zaraki. The Gotei 13 has about 3000 members or so, approximately 200 to a Squad]]; at the end of the Vandenreich's ''initial'' attack on the Soul Society, the number of casualties is recorded to be ''[[KillEmAll loses just over 2500]]''. What's worse, 2500 out of 6000 men in the Royal Guard, who ''might'' stand a chance against [[SortingAlgorithmOfEvil this new threat]], is established to only care about protecting [[FisherKing the Soul King]] and the rest of the Royal Family (and not the Seireitei), as evidenced by their arrival ''after'' first Vandenreich butchered invasion and the Royal Guard prioritises the Soul King over helping out. Even though Yamamoto never let her fight, and Zaraki does get powered up (but not enough, it turns out), it costs Unohana her life and the Gotei 13 (though they ''did'' [[spoiler:help train Ichigo, Rukia, Renji, and Byakuya after healing their injuries]]). As such, [[spoiler:Unohana ends up dying in mortal combat after getting Kenpachi to stop subconsciously limiting his power, so instead of the Gotei 13 having both Unohana--their its best healer ''and'' second-strongest combatant (after Yamamoto) going into her duel with Kenpachi--and Kenpachi (who could have been brought up to his current level ''without'' Unohana dying), they're short one ''very'' versatile and effective CombatMedic. (Shinji even notes in 581--as four Sternritters [[GenreSavvy invoke]] WorfHadTheFlu and attempt to kill a heavily worn-down Kenpachi, whom Shinji says is the ''only'' character capable of putting up a fight at the moment--that while Momo is a good enough healer, she's nowhere close to Unohana's level of expertise.)]] It's a good thing for them that [[spoiler:[[BigDamnHeroes Ichigo arrived in the nick of time to bail out Kenpachi]]]] because if things did go south during the Vandenreich's current assault (which could still happen now that [[spoiler:Yhwach has infiltrated the Royal Palace]]), the Soul Society would be done for.
healer.]]]]
** ''Bleach'''s {{Filler}} arcs have a lot of characters holding the IdiotBall, but BigBad Muramasa [[BigBad Muramasa]] from the Zanpakutou Tales Arc deserves a [[TooDumbToLive special mention]]. Early on, accepts the reason for [[AloofBigBrother Byakuya Kuchiki]] apparently defects Byakuya's]] defection to the Zanpakutou's side. The only reason he gives is that he's [[MathematiciansAnswer his side as "[[MathematiciansAnswer protecting his pride]] - something that no one in the team actually believes in (everyone thinks he must have some sort of plan). pride]]". While Muramasa does suspect that is suspicious of Byakuya's motives aren't really those he states, true motives, he still [[WhatAnIdiot lets him Byakuya tag along to the Real World]], with him when he is at his weakest, attempts to help him release his master, [[{{Jerkass}} Kouga]]. Kouga Kuchiki. What do you know, turns out Byakuya is a FakeDefector, whose real reason to follow Muramasa is to have an opportunity of killing Kouga as the current leader disgraced member of the Kuchiki Clan, and he goes on clan whom Byakuya needs to do just that. Okay, so Kouga Kuchiki is a {{Jerkass}} who, upon awakening, tries locate in order to [[KickTheDog kill his Zanpakutou]]... Still, one can't help but wonder what would be him and remove the stain on the family's honour, something he couldn't do without Muramasa's reaction when he realized he indirectly caused his master's death. help.
20th Feb '16 8:42:48 PM MsChibi
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*** This is ''especially'' jarring if you happen to know about her role in ''LightNovel/AnotherNote''. It's like, "Did you learn ''nothing'' from your experience with [[spoiler: Beyond Birthday]]?!?!?!"
5th Feb '16 1:29:07 AM Austin
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*** It's subverted with the implications that the jump attack may have been planned beforehand, as Bazz-B boasts about how he offset Yamamoto's flames with his own.
28th Jan '16 9:56:23 AM Willbyr
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* Omi Tsukiyono from ''WeissKreuz'', who is supposed to be by far the ''smartest'' member of his team of [[HitmanWithAHeart Hitmen with Hearts]], gets hit by the Idiot Ball when he decides that the best thing to do with a [[BrownNote CD]] that causes [[DrivenToSuicide suicidal psychosis]] in half the people who listen to it is ''play it and see if it works''. It takes two of his teammates passing out for him to realize what a very, very stupid idea this was.

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* Omi Tsukiyono from ''WeissKreuz'', ''Anime/WeissKreuz'', who is supposed to be by far the ''smartest'' member of his team of [[HitmanWithAHeart Hitmen with Hearts]], gets hit by the Idiot Ball when he decides that the best thing to do with a [[BrownNote CD]] that causes [[DrivenToSuicide suicidal psychosis]] in half the people who listen to it is ''play it and see if it works''. It takes two of his teammates passing out for him to realize what a very, very stupid idea this was.
22nd Jan '16 9:25:55 PM Adept
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* In the movie {{Summer Wars}}, math genius Kenji is sent an insanely long and difficult equation to his cell phone by an unknown number. For no reason other than that he was hit by the {{Idiot Ball}}, he proceeds to ''solve'' said equation without having ''any'' context as to what it might do or who sent it. As if that wasn't bad enough, he then ''[[WhatAnIdiot sends it back to the original sender]]'' along with his (correct) answer. That move alone very nearly led to {{The End of the World as We Know It}}. Many other math geniuses were shown to have done the same moronic thing; compulsive puzzle-solving [[http://xkcd.com/356/ is a known weakness of many nerds.]]

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* In the movie {{Summer Wars}}, ''Anime/SummerWars'', math genius Kenji is sent an insanely long and difficult equation to his cell phone by an unknown number. For no reason other than that he was hit by the {{Idiot Ball}}, he proceeds to ''solve'' said equation without having ''any'' context as to what it might do or who sent it. As if that wasn't bad enough, he then ''[[WhatAnIdiot sends it back to the original sender]]'' along with his (correct) answer. That move alone very nearly led to {{The End of the World as We Know It}}. Many other math geniuses were shown to have done the same moronic thing; compulsive puzzle-solving [[http://xkcd.com/356/ is a known weakness of many nerds.]]
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