History IdiotBall / AnimeAndManga

22nd Mar '17 7:12:19 AM fjsdfalms
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** After Kaiba played Horseman the first monster Jonouchi sent after it was Swamp Battleguard a monster with 1800 attack points and after it was destroyed Jonouchi sent Axe Raider with 1700 points to avenge Battleguard, yeah he tried to send a monster that was weaker that the first one thinking it would do better. And all of the other monsters Jonouchi attack R.H. with also have 1800 attack points. Jonouchi, if the first 1800 attacker couldn't beat Kaiba's monster what makes you think the others will? It's no wonder Kaiba insulted him to no tomorrow over it.
** In the beginning of the anime's second season, Yugi, who was on the way to school with Anzu, was naive enough to lend the fortune teller his Millenium Puzzle in order to get his fortune told, and he would have ended up [[spoiler:dying in a warehouse fire]] if it weren't for Jonouchi and Honda. This is different from the manga, where the Puzzle was taken from him during the Dungeon Dice Monsters arc.

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** After Kaiba played Horseman the first monster Jonouchi sent after it was Swamp Battleguard Battleguard, a monster with 1800 attack points and after points. After it was destroyed destroyed, Jonouchi sent Axe Raider with 1700 points to avenge Battleguard, yeah Battleguard. Yeah, he tried to send a monster that was weaker that the first one thinking it would do better. And all of the other monsters Jonouchi attack R.H. with also have 1800 attack points. Jonouchi, if the first 1800 attacker couldn't beat Kaiba's monster monster, what makes you think the others will? It's no wonder Kaiba insulted him to no tomorrow over it.
** In the beginning of the anime's second season, Yugi, who was on the way to school with Anzu, was naive enough to lend the fortune teller his Millenium Millennium Puzzle in order to get his fortune told, and he would have ended up [[spoiler:dying in a warehouse fire]] if it weren't for Jonouchi and Honda. This is different from the manga, where the Puzzle was taken from him during the Dungeon Dice Monsters arc.
21st Mar '17 8:07:15 AM fjsdfalms
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** Nearly Oghi's entire arc once [[LoveMakesYouDumb he falls for Villetta]], from letting his guard down around her during the Black Rebellion, leading to him getting shot and Ashford falling out of the BKs control, going AWOL later on to meet her knowing full well she will kill him, all the way up to him buying into Schneizel's deceptions and turning on Lelouch. The Black Knights follow suit on the latter, and deserve another mention for not questioning Villetta, even though she's a Britannian agent who had they done so, they would have learned had been antagonizing Lelouch, and by proxy, them.

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** Nearly Oghi's entire arc once [[LoveMakesYouDumb he falls for Villetta]], from letting his guard down around her during the Black Rebellion, leading to him getting shot and Ashford falling out of the BKs [=BK's=] control, going AWOL later on to meet her knowing full well she will kill him, all the way up to him buying into Schneizel's deceptions and turning on Lelouch. The Black Knights follow suit on the latter, and deserve another mention for not questioning Villetta, even though she's a Britannian agent who had they done so, they would have learned had been antagonizing Lelouch, and by proxy, them.



* It seems like Momo's class in ''Manga/PeachGirl'' is forced to carry this, as it regards Sae. Her schemes have hurt or enraged almost everyone long before the first time she is caught out on her campaign against Momo. Yet the class is ready to lynch Momo, and on more than one occasion, based on setups they all know Sae's capable of, and they all say very clearly that they know this when she is exposed. Worse, even when exposed, Sae getting anything stronger than the cold shoulder seems out of the question, since no one wants to do to her deservedly what they did to Momo based on whipped up frenzy. Momo's first boy friend actually believed Sae that it was ok to kiss her as a way to practice for Momo.

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* It seems like Momo's class in ''Manga/PeachGirl'' is forced to carry this, as it regards Sae. Her schemes have hurt or enraged almost everyone long before the first time she is caught out on her campaign against Momo. Yet the class is ready to lynch Momo, and on more than one occasion, based on setups they all know Sae's capable of, and they all say very clearly that they know this when she is exposed. Worse, even when exposed, Sae getting anything stronger than the cold shoulder seems out of the question, since no one wants to do to her deservedly what they did to Momo based on whipped up frenzy. Momo's first boy friend actually believed Sae that it was ok okay to kiss her as a way to practice for Momo.
4th Feb '17 11:20:03 AM sorceressmon9
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** Specifically, this is the Pokemon who, minutes after "birth" slaughtered every last scientist in the facility, burned it to the ground and, under Giovanni's training, grew STRONGER still. And AFTER all this, Giovanni STILL chases Mewtwo to the next region over, bringing an army to try and stop him.

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** Specifically, this is the Pokemon who, minutes after "birth" slaughtered every last scientist in the facility, burned it to the ground and, under Giovanni's training, grew STRONGER still. And AFTER all this, Giovanni STILL chases Mewtwo [[Anime/PokemonMewtwoReturns to the next region over, over]], bringing an army to try and stop him.
1st Jan '17 7:01:54 PM Gravityman
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** Yami Marik's victories over Mai and Yami Bakura were achieved thanks to their fatal misplays. Mai had the opportunity to defeat him with her Harpie Lady Sisters, but she decided to tribute them to summon Ra... which she couldn't control and it remained in its Sphere Mode until Yami Marik unleashed it and defeated her. While Yami Bakura could control Ra, Ra had 0 ATK, but 3450 DEF and is very hard to defeat since it is also immune to most effects. Despite this, Yami Bakura tributed his StoneWall for his Dark Ruler Ha Des, forgetting that he "traded" his Spell Card ''Monster Reborn'' during the duel, which gave Yami Marik the opportunity to get Ra back. Then again, Yami Bakura assumed that it wouldn't be a problem, since Ra's default attack power is dependent on the attack power of the monsters tributed to summon it, meaning that its attack power would be 0 if it were special summoned. [[spoiler:Too bad only Yami Marik knew of Ra's secret ability that allows the player to convert their Life Points into Ra's Attack Points.]]

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** Yami Marik's victories over Mai and Yami Bakura were achieved thanks to their fatal misplays. Mai had the opportunity to defeat him with her Harpie Lady Sisters, but she decided to tribute them to summon Ra... which she couldn't control and it remained in its Sphere Mode until Yami Marik unleashed it and defeated her. While Yami Bakura could control Ra, Ra had 0 ATK, but 3450 DEF and is very hard to defeat since it is also immune to most effects. Despite this, Yami Bakura tributed his StoneWall for his Dark Ruler Ha Des, forgetting that he "traded" his Spell Card ''Monster Reborn'' during the duel, which gave Yami Marik the opportunity to get Ra back. Then again, Yami Bakura assumed that it wouldn't be a problem, since Ra's default attack power is dependent on the attack power of the monsters tributed to summon it, meaning that its attack power would be 0 if it were special summoned. [[spoiler:Too bad only Yami Marik knew of Ra's secret ability that allows the player to convert their Life Points into Ra's Attack Points.]]]] On one hand, to be fair to the two of them, Ra's highly mysterious nature means neither of them actually knew how the card worked until it was too late, but even then it ''still'' counts, since trying to use a card you know nothing about when you have a much simpler method of victory in hand seems like a totally unnecessary gamble, especially for Yami Bakura, who should've realized there was more to Ra than met the eye.



* In Chapter 79 of ''Manga/SoulEater'', Tezca Tlipoca, known to be Shibusen's best tracker, walks blindly into Noah's base, not taking any apparent precautions for the event of traps. Sure enough, he gets hit with a powerful attack from underground.
** Chapter 82: Guess what? [[spoiler: He's not dead. He had someone else go and die instead of him. No idiot ball on Tlipoca. Until he uses a gopher mask as a disguise anyway.]]
24th Dec '16 8:45:42 AM MitchellProductions
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** Actually, who's to say his opponents haven't had similar adventures? Back in Kanto, Ash mentioned it took roughly a year for him to come back to Viridian City, meaning it takes him around a year to complete each journey, give or take a month or so. That would only make Ash around 14-15? There are still people far older and more experienced than him and his handful of years.
*** Best Wishes! spoofs this theory by defying all non-relativistic laws of time: Ash is still ten. Even though based on earlier dialogue AT LEAST one year must have passed.
14th Nov '16 10:57:00 AM KashimaKitty
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** [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Puella Magi Madoka Magica: Rebellion]] reveals that Homura made a big one in the finale of the main series, [[spoiler: telling Kyubey about Madoka and her wish allowed him to kick-start the plot of the movie.]]
2nd Nov '16 5:44:14 AM troper101
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** In the beginning of the second season, Yugi, who was on the way to school with Anzu, was naive enough to lend the fortune teller his Millenium Puzzle in order to get his fortune told, and he would have ended up [[spoiler:dying in a warehouse fire]] if it weren't for Jonouchi and Honda.
*** This scenario was very different in the manga, though.

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** In the beginning of the anime's second season, Yugi, who was on the way to school with Anzu, was naive enough to lend the fortune teller his Millenium Puzzle in order to get his fortune told, and he would have ended up [[spoiler:dying in a warehouse fire]] if it weren't for Jonouchi and Honda.
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Honda. This scenario was very is different in from the manga, though.where the Puzzle was taken from him during the Dungeon Dice Monsters arc.
29th Oct '16 3:52:37 PM nombretomado
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* In HajimeNoIppo, Kobashi, a physically weak boxer, uses a boxing style that goes for a win via points and exhausting his opponent instead of going for a knockout. However, during the last round of his match against Ippo, Kobashi, having a two point lead and an opponent too exhausted to catch him (meaning that all he has to do to win is dance around until time runs out), suddenly decides to try to go for a knockout against an opponent known for [=KOing=] all of his opponents. This idea ends about how you'd expect it to. This is made even worse by the fact that Kobashi had apparently put a great deal of research into Ippo's fighting style before the match. Kobashi even lampshades it after he wakes up.

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* In HajimeNoIppo, ''Manga/HajimeNoIppo'', Kobashi, a physically weak boxer, uses a boxing style that goes for a win via points and exhausting his opponent instead of going for a knockout. However, during the last round of his match against Ippo, Kobashi, having a two point lead and an opponent too exhausted to catch him (meaning that all he has to do to win is dance around until time runs out), suddenly decides to try to go for a knockout against an opponent known for [=KOing=] all of his opponents. This idea ends about how you'd expect it to. This is made even worse by the fact that Kobashi had apparently put a great deal of research into Ippo's fighting style before the match. Kobashi even lampshades it after he wakes up.
16th Oct '16 8:42:41 AM Evilkitten3
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* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', [[spoiler:Team Natsu (Plus Wendy and even [[OnlySaneMan Carla and Lily]]) [[AttackAttackAttack charging into]] [[HeroKiller Hades']] ship while exhausted and with the knowledge that Hades defeated [[BigGood Makarov.]] They didn't even need to since Hades [[OrcusOnHisThrone wasn't going anywhere]] and his objective (Zeref) was elsewhere. Grabbing Zeref (Gray even knew where he was) and leaving would have been infinitely more intelligent and was never even considered.]] This is more an example of HonorBeforeReason. Perhaps Natsu wouldn't have considered running with Zeref under any circumstances, but he'd be the only one of that group. No, Grimoire Heart had kicked in their door, basically invaded their home and trying to kill them all off, on top of successfully destroying the island. It wasn't that they were unable to consider tactics, it was that they were ''pissed.''

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* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', [[spoiler:Team Natsu (Plus Wendy and even (plus [[OnlySaneMan Carla and Lily]]) [[AttackAttackAttack charging into]] [[HeroKiller Hades']] ship while exhausted and with the knowledge that Hades defeated [[BigGood Makarov.]] They didn't even need to since Hades [[OrcusOnHisThrone wasn't going anywhere]] and his objective (Zeref) was elsewhere. Grabbing Zeref (Gray even knew where he was) and leaving would have been infinitely more intelligent and was never even considered.]] This is more an example of HonorBeforeReason. Perhaps Natsu wouldn't have considered running with Zeref under any circumstances, but he'd be the only one of that group. No, Grimoire Heart had kicked in their door, basically invaded their home and trying to kill them all off, on top of successfully destroying the island. It wasn't that they were unable to consider tactics, it was that they were ''pissed.''
15th Oct '16 11:08:37 AM MsChibi
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** Matt attempts to talk his way out of a confrontation with several of Takada's bodyguards, all of them armed. In doing so, he decides to be a wiseguy and crack some racist dick jokes...and then says YouWouldntShootMe. Guess what happens.
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