History IdiotBall / AnimeAndManga

1st Jan '17 7:01:54 PM Gravityman
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** Yami Marik's victories over Mai and Yami Bakura were achieved thanks to their fatal misplays. Mai had the opportunity to defeat him with her Harpie Lady Sisters, but she decided to tribute them to summon Ra... which she couldn't control and it remained in its Sphere Mode until Yami Marik unleashed it and defeated her. While Yami Bakura could control Ra, Ra had 0 ATK, but 3450 DEF and is very hard to defeat since it is also immune to most effects. Despite this, Yami Bakura tributed his StoneWall for his Dark Ruler Ha Des, forgetting that he "traded" his Spell Card ''Monster Reborn'' during the duel, which gave Yami Marik the opportunity to get Ra back. Then again, Yami Bakura assumed that it wouldn't be a problem, since Ra's default attack power is dependent on the attack power of the monsters tributed to summon it, meaning that its attack power would be 0 if it were special summoned. [[spoiler:Too bad only Yami Marik knew of Ra's secret ability that allows the player to convert their Life Points into Ra's Attack Points.]]

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** Yami Marik's victories over Mai and Yami Bakura were achieved thanks to their fatal misplays. Mai had the opportunity to defeat him with her Harpie Lady Sisters, but she decided to tribute them to summon Ra... which she couldn't control and it remained in its Sphere Mode until Yami Marik unleashed it and defeated her. While Yami Bakura could control Ra, Ra had 0 ATK, but 3450 DEF and is very hard to defeat since it is also immune to most effects. Despite this, Yami Bakura tributed his StoneWall for his Dark Ruler Ha Des, forgetting that he "traded" his Spell Card ''Monster Reborn'' during the duel, which gave Yami Marik the opportunity to get Ra back. Then again, Yami Bakura assumed that it wouldn't be a problem, since Ra's default attack power is dependent on the attack power of the monsters tributed to summon it, meaning that its attack power would be 0 if it were special summoned. [[spoiler:Too bad only Yami Marik knew of Ra's secret ability that allows the player to convert their Life Points into Ra's Attack Points.]]]] On one hand, to be fair to the two of them, Ra's highly mysterious nature means neither of them actually knew how the card worked until it was too late, but even then it ''still'' counts, since trying to use a card you know nothing about when you have a much simpler method of victory in hand seems like a totally unnecessary gamble, especially for Yami Bakura, who should've realized there was more to Ra than met the eye.



* In Chapter 79 of ''Manga/SoulEater'', Tezca Tlipoca, known to be Shibusen's best tracker, walks blindly into Noah's base, not taking any apparent precautions for the event of traps. Sure enough, he gets hit with a powerful attack from underground.
** Chapter 82: Guess what? [[spoiler: He's not dead. He had someone else go and die instead of him. No idiot ball on Tlipoca. Until he uses a gopher mask as a disguise anyway.]]
24th Dec '16 8:45:42 AM MitchellProductions
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** Actually, who's to say his opponents haven't had similar adventures? Back in Kanto, Ash mentioned it took roughly a year for him to come back to Viridian City, meaning it takes him around a year to complete each journey, give or take a month or so. That would only make Ash around 14-15? There are still people far older and more experienced than him and his handful of years.
*** Best Wishes! spoofs this theory by defying all non-relativistic laws of time: Ash is still ten. Even though based on earlier dialogue AT LEAST one year must have passed.
14th Nov '16 10:57:00 AM KashimaKitty
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** [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Puella Magi Madoka Magica: Rebellion]] reveals that Homura made a big one in the finale of the main series, [[spoiler: telling Kyubey about Madoka and her wish allowed him to kick-start the plot of the movie.]]
2nd Nov '16 5:44:14 AM troper101
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** In the beginning of the second season, Yugi, who was on the way to school with Anzu, was naive enough to lend the fortune teller his Millenium Puzzle in order to get his fortune told, and he would have ended up [[spoiler:dying in a warehouse fire]] if it weren't for Jonouchi and Honda.
*** This scenario was very different in the manga, though.

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** In the beginning of the anime's second season, Yugi, who was on the way to school with Anzu, was naive enough to lend the fortune teller his Millenium Puzzle in order to get his fortune told, and he would have ended up [[spoiler:dying in a warehouse fire]] if it weren't for Jonouchi and Honda.
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Honda. This scenario was very is different in from the manga, though.where the Puzzle was taken from him during the Dungeon Dice Monsters arc.
29th Oct '16 3:52:37 PM nombretomado
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* In HajimeNoIppo, Kobashi, a physically weak boxer, uses a boxing style that goes for a win via points and exhausting his opponent instead of going for a knockout. However, during the last round of his match against Ippo, Kobashi, having a two point lead and an opponent too exhausted to catch him (meaning that all he has to do to win is dance around until time runs out), suddenly decides to try to go for a knockout against an opponent known for [=KOing=] all of his opponents. This idea ends about how you'd expect it to. This is made even worse by the fact that Kobashi had apparently put a great deal of research into Ippo's fighting style before the match. Kobashi even lampshades it after he wakes up.

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* In HajimeNoIppo, ''Manga/HajimeNoIppo'', Kobashi, a physically weak boxer, uses a boxing style that goes for a win via points and exhausting his opponent instead of going for a knockout. However, during the last round of his match against Ippo, Kobashi, having a two point lead and an opponent too exhausted to catch him (meaning that all he has to do to win is dance around until time runs out), suddenly decides to try to go for a knockout against an opponent known for [=KOing=] all of his opponents. This idea ends about how you'd expect it to. This is made even worse by the fact that Kobashi had apparently put a great deal of research into Ippo's fighting style before the match. Kobashi even lampshades it after he wakes up.
16th Oct '16 8:42:41 AM Evilkitten3
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* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', [[spoiler:Team Natsu (Plus Wendy and even [[OnlySaneMan Carla and Lily]]) [[AttackAttackAttack charging into]] [[HeroKiller Hades']] ship while exhausted and with the knowledge that Hades defeated [[BigGood Makarov.]] They didn't even need to since Hades [[OrcusOnHisThrone wasn't going anywhere]] and his objective (Zeref) was elsewhere. Grabbing Zeref (Gray even knew where he was) and leaving would have been infinitely more intelligent and was never even considered.]] This is more an example of HonorBeforeReason. Perhaps Natsu wouldn't have considered running with Zeref under any circumstances, but he'd be the only one of that group. No, Grimoire Heart had kicked in their door, basically invaded their home and trying to kill them all off, on top of successfully destroying the island. It wasn't that they were unable to consider tactics, it was that they were ''pissed.''

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* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', [[spoiler:Team Natsu (Plus Wendy and even (plus [[OnlySaneMan Carla and Lily]]) [[AttackAttackAttack charging into]] [[HeroKiller Hades']] ship while exhausted and with the knowledge that Hades defeated [[BigGood Makarov.]] They didn't even need to since Hades [[OrcusOnHisThrone wasn't going anywhere]] and his objective (Zeref) was elsewhere. Grabbing Zeref (Gray even knew where he was) and leaving would have been infinitely more intelligent and was never even considered.]] This is more an example of HonorBeforeReason. Perhaps Natsu wouldn't have considered running with Zeref under any circumstances, but he'd be the only one of that group. No, Grimoire Heart had kicked in their door, basically invaded their home and trying to kill them all off, on top of successfully destroying the island. It wasn't that they were unable to consider tactics, it was that they were ''pissed.''
15th Oct '16 11:08:37 AM MsChibi
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** Matt attempts to talk his way out of a confrontation with several of Takada's bodyguards, all of them armed. In doing so, he decides to be a wiseguy and crack some racist dick jokes...and then says YouWouldntShootMe. Guess what happens.
14th Oct '16 1:30:03 PM NNinja
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* Suzaku and Lelouch from ''Anime/CodeGeass'' strike a deal, wherein Lelouch has Zero's crimes absolved in return for exile from Japan, as well as his bringing one million people to participate in the Special Administrative Region which Suzaku supports. Then, in typical Lelouch fashion, he [[spoiler:has the million people [[IAmSpartacus dress as Zero]], meaning they get exiled too.]] The entire plan hinges upon Suzaku being LawfulStupid and obeying their deal to the letter (though in fairness to Suzaku, it relied equally on his honest desire to avert a potential riot/massacre).

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* Suzaku and Lelouch from ''Anime/CodeGeass'' strike a deal, wherein Lelouch has Zero's crimes absolved in return for exile from Japan, as well as his bringing one million people to participate in the Special Administrative Region which Suzaku supports. Then, in typical Lelouch fashion, he [[spoiler:has the million people [[IAmSpartacus dress as Zero]], meaning they get exiled too.]] The entire plan hinges upon Suzaku being LawfulStupid and obeying their deal to the letter (though in fairness to Suzaku, it relied equally on his honest desire to avert a potential riot/massacre).''Anime/CodeGeass'':



** Suzaku's entire plot throughout the series is driven by his seeming to have swallowed a single-issue-focused one of these; he apparently got the notion somewhere that a foreign-born soldier has the potential to change a corrupt system from within in a highly racist ''hereditary absolute monarchy'', a kind of system where, historically, even high-ranking highborn ''nobles'' have little influence on actual major policy decisions of the kind Suzaku wants to change. Has the boy never taken a civics course?
14th Oct '16 1:17:06 PM NNinja
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** During the Land of Waves arc, Sasuke was having a hard time inside Haku's Hall of Mirrors. All that Naruto had to do to was to attack the Hall of Mirrors from the outside. Instead, he chooses to go inside the Hall of Mirrors, and complicating the situation further.



** Subverted when Naruto goes on a "training mission" with fellow Jinchuriki, Killer Bee. The mission is actually a ploy to keep Naruto away from the BigBad, who needs to sacrifice Naruto to complete his plan. Kabuto launches an attack on the island where Naruto is, but Naruto mistakes the explosions for... shifting seas?



** Subverted when Sakura discovers that Sasuke's going to abandon Konoha, so rather than report this to the proper village authorities, or find Naruto or some of their friends to back her up, she goes to him, alone, and pledges her love for him, hoping to change his mind. She is 13 years old, but she is also a trained shinobi, and Sasuke was practically moseying out of the village.



** Karin is in love with Sasuke, even during his MoralEventHorizon. After he [[spoiler:stabs her in the chest]] and asks a passerby to execute her, she returns to him, pissed off, but almost instantly forgives him for it. This would be passable insanity if she weren't already established as reasonably intelligent and focused enough to be a prison warden. [[LoveMakesYouCrazy She's so lovesick it blinds her.]]
9th Sep '16 6:20:29 AM BrendanRizzo
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** Dr. Gero, [[MadScientist lead robotics scientist]] of the Red Ribbon Army, shuts 16 and 17 down and locks them in stasis because their eternal energy supplies make them too powerful to be trusted not to turn against him. Then when he rebuilds himself into a cyborg like them, he uses the older inferior energy absorption design... in case he turns against himself?

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** Dr. Gero, [[MadScientist lead robotics scientist]] of the Red Ribbon Army, shuts 16 17 and 17 18 down and locks them in stasis because their eternal energy supplies make them too powerful to be trusted not to turn against him. Then when he rebuilds himself into a cyborg like them, he uses the older inferior energy absorption design... in case he turns against himself?



* [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyouko]] got more of an Optimism Ball that worked ''too'' well. She believes [[WeaselMascot Kyuubey]] that [[spoiler: Sayaka could be turned back from a witch, despite the fact that Kyuubey admitted to setting up the whole thing]]. She doesn't ask Homura, who has known about the whole system from the start, if he's [[YouDidntAsk withholding information]]. Finally, she brings Madoka (who is completely defenseless) to the fight, while Kyouko herself has a dimmed Soul Gem from overuse of magic. [[spoiler: It ends with a SuicideAttack, per Kyuubey's BatmanGambit.]]

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* [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyouko]] ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'': Kyoko got more of an Optimism Ball that worked ''too'' well. She believes [[WeaselMascot Kyuubey]] that [[spoiler: Sayaka could be turned back from a witch, despite the fact that Kyuubey admitted to setting up the whole thing]]. She doesn't ask Homura, who has known about the whole system from the start, if he's [[YouDidntAsk withholding information]]. Finally, she brings Madoka (who is completely defenseless) to the fight, while Kyouko herself has a dimmed Soul Gem from overuse of magic. [[spoiler: It ends with a SuicideAttack, per Kyuubey's BatmanGambit.]]
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