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18th Jun '16 8:09:30 AM MJC
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* TheFlash2014:
** Eobard Thawne (in the guise of Professor Wells) gets upset when Barry changes the timeline (even though he only changes the events of one day and does it to save the city) and gives him a stern talking to about the dangers of time travel. This is coming from a man who traveled back over a hundred years in the past to kill TheFlash as a child because of a petty grudge (and settled on killing his mother when the attempt failed) and killed various other people afterwards (including the original Wells) in his attempt to get back to the future.
18th Jun '16 3:33:36 AM Silverblade2
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* ''Series/{{Arrow}}'': A recurring element of Oliver Queen's character. He criticizes Thea for her partying despite having done the same thing himself, and she at least has the excuse of acting out after the apparent death of her father and brother, while he was just young, rich, and stupid. His attempt to tell Helena what she's doing is wrong fails utterly because they're ''both'' murderous vigilantes, and he was actually going to kill the same man she killed for the same reason (In Season 2 after adopting ThouShaltNotKill he tries again with a little more success, as he actually has a leg to stand on that time). He's furious at Moira for [[spoiler: not telling him about Thea's real father]], but not only is he keeping much more dangerous secrets from his family, but he doesn't tell [[spoiler: Thea]] either, even though she arguably has a much greater right to know than he does.

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A recurring element of Oliver Queen's character. He criticizes Thea for her partying despite having done the same thing himself, and she at least has the excuse of acting out after the apparent death of her father and brother, while he was just young, rich, and stupid. His attempt to tell Helena what she's doing is wrong fails utterly because they're ''both'' murderous vigilantes, and he was actually going to kill the same man she killed for the same reason (In Season 2 after adopting ThouShaltNotKill he tries again with a little more success, as he actually has a leg to stand on that time). He's furious at Moira for [[spoiler: not telling him about Thea's real father]], but not only is he keeping much more dangerous secrets from his family, but he doesn't tell [[spoiler: Thea]] either, even though she arguably has a much greater right to know than he does.


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** In season 4, Felicity gets angry at Oliver then breaks up with him because he hid his illegitimate son from her despite herself keeping secrets from him before including at the beginning of the season when she was still assisting Team Arrow.
12th Jun '16 9:01:58 PM DoctorNemesis
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** Both Britta Perry and Shirley Bennett are the two more self-righteous members of the study group, Britta because she's the liberal SoapboxSadie GranolaGirl and Shirley because she's the [[GlurgeAddict saccharine sweet]] HolierThanThou [[TheFundamentalist born-again Christian]]. While both are ultimately likeable and sympathetic people regardless, over the course of the series it's made quite clear that there's often a gulf between their perceptions of themselves and who they really are, and that both tend to use their respective beliefs more as a way of feeling superior over others than any other reason.

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** Both Britta Perry and Shirley Bennett are the two more self-righteous members of the study group, Britta because she's the liberal leftist SoapboxSadie GranolaGirl and Shirley because she's the [[GlurgeAddict saccharine sweet]] HolierThanThou [[TheFundamentalist born-again Christian]]. While both are ultimately likeable and sympathetic people regardless, over the course of the series it's made quite clear that there's often a gulf between their perceptions of themselves and who they really are, and that both tend to use their respective beliefs more as a way of feeling superior over others than any other reason.
9th Jun '16 1:41:04 PM ShorinBJ
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** Blaine makes a big deal of having a sexy performances for Regionals (to the point of forcing Kurt to make sexy faces in the mirror) in Season 2's episode "Sexy", yet in "Hold onto Sixteen" he slut shames Sam for suggesting that they do the same thing

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** Blaine makes a big deal of having a sexy performances for Regionals (to the point of forcing Kurt to make sexy faces in the mirror) in Season 2's episode "Sexy", yet in "Hold onto Sixteen" he slut shames Sam for suggesting that they do the same thingthing.



** Troi gets called out on her hypocritical attitude regarding use of betazoid empathy during the third season episode The Price by her love interest of the week, Ral. When she complains to him about his use of empathic abilities to gain an advantage at the negotiation table, he flatly points out that people have done such things for thousands of years without anyone calling foul while he simply happens to be slightly better at it. He then goes on to [[WhatTheHellHero point out the real hypocrisy as he sees it]]: Troi uses her empathic abilities every bit as much to aid her 'client:' the crew, the captain and Starfleet, often at the expense of whatever opponent they're dealing with at the moment. As Ral states, the difference between them is that when Troi manipulates and spies on the opposition without their knowledge or consent, people very well might die rather than simply fail to acquire some property. Troi's arguments are supported however, by the implication that Ral is ''directly'' influencing his opposition during the negotiations, and using his empathy to manipulate them into dropping out of the race entirely.

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** Troi gets called out on her hypocritical attitude regarding use of betazoid Betazoid empathy during the third season episode The Price by her love interest of the week, Ral. When she complains to him about his use of empathic abilities to gain an advantage at the negotiation table, he flatly points out that people have done such things for thousands of years without anyone calling foul while he simply happens to be slightly better at it. He then goes on to [[WhatTheHellHero point out the real hypocrisy as he sees it]]: Troi uses her empathic abilities every bit as much to aid her 'client:' the crew, the captain and Starfleet, often at the expense of whatever opponent they're dealing with at the moment. As Ral states, the difference between them is that when Troi manipulates and spies on the opposition without their knowledge or consent, people very well might die rather than simply fail to acquire some property. Troi's arguments are supported however, by the implication that Ral is ''directly'' influencing his opposition during the negotiations, and using his empathy to manipulate them into dropping out of the race entirely.



*** Though one cultist ''did'' take the pill anyway even after Dukat's lies had been exposed. Dukat claimed that the Pah-Wraith's had told him to take a fake pill and get everyone else to kill themselves, and the cultist in question decided to believe him, even if he didn't seem to like it. It should be noted, also, that this might not be hypocrisy at all- the Pah-Wraiths are essentially the LegionsOfHell, [[VillainWithGoodPublicity posing to the cult]] as [[SatanIsGood misblamed fallen angels]] when in actually they are {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s- it is strongly implied that they really ''did' order him that which would mean he isn't actually a hypocrite (in this particular instance, at least).

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*** Though one cultist ''did'' take the pill anyway even after Dukat's lies had been exposed. Dukat claimed that the Pah-Wraith's Pah-Wraiths had told him to take a fake pill and get everyone else to kill themselves, and the cultist in question decided to believe him, even if he didn't seem to like it. It should be noted, also, that this might not be hypocrisy at all- the Pah-Wraiths are essentially the LegionsOfHell, [[VillainWithGoodPublicity posing to the cult]] as [[SatanIsGood misblamed fallen angels]] when in actually they are {{Omnicidal Maniac}}s- it is strongly implied that they really ''did' order him that which would mean he isn't actually a hypocrite (in this particular instance, at least).



* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'': Captain Archer is prone to excessive Hypocrisy, to the point where many viewers saw him as being written as a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality.

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* ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'': Captain Archer is prone to excessive Hypocrisy, hypocrisy, to the point where many viewers saw him as being written as a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality.



** In "The Breach", Phlox points out that Denobulan Medical Ethics prevent him from treating someone who does not want to be treated and that he ''must'' respect his patients wishes, even if they lead to their death. Which makes his actions in "Dear Doctor" even more shocking in retrospect, since the Valakians most certainly ''did'' want to be treated!

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** In "The Breach", Phlox points out that Denobulan Medical Ethics prevent him from treating someone who does not want to be treated and that he ''must'' respect his patients patients' wishes, even if they lead to their death. Which makes his actions in "Dear Doctor" even more shocking in retrospect, since the Valakians most certainly ''did'' want to be treated!



** In Season 5, family is a major theme with the Winchester brothers choosing family over God, good, evil and everything else contrary to brothers [[ArchangelMichael Michael]] and [[{{Satan}} Lucifer]] who want to duke it out to determine who controls the Earth. Proving the importance of family was what God was going for the whole time. Never mind God's blatant favoritism of Lucifer, later humanity, and abandonment of his own "children" the angels are the source of most of the problems throughout the latter half of the series. Michael is forced to choose between his brother Lucifer and father God. Lucifer values his siblings the angels, but is disgusted with his Father favoring humans. God himself is often said by the main characters to just be another deadbeat father with a list of excuses.
** There's also the case of Adam, the Winchester's half brother, who fell into the void with Michael, Lucifer, and Sam. Sam's soulless body was quickly retrieved, and Dean made a deal with Death to save their souls, who offered him the choice of saving either Sam or Adam from the infinite torments of the frustrated Michael and Lucifer. He picked Sam, and then apparently [[PutOnABusToHell neither of them thought about Adam ever again.]] Way to focus on family there.
** Near the end of season 6, Dean finds out that [[spoiler: Castiel has been working with Crowley]], and promptly chews him out for it. Even though Dean did the same thing the previous season. And one of the first things he does in season 7 is [[spoiler: call Crowley for help in taking down Cas.]]
* ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'': Elena tries to convince Anna and Jeremy to stop seeing each other by arguing that she can't age or have children and so their relationship can't have a future ([[spoiler: Anna's a ghost,]] so there are other arguments she could have made, but those are the ones she went with). She then immediately returns to work on getting her eternally 17 vampire boyfriend back. To make things worse, Elena explicitly doesn't want to become a vampire, while Jeremy has previously been open to it, making the immortality issue ''more'' of an issue for her.

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** In Season 5, family is a major theme with the Winchester brothers choosing family over God, good, evil and everything else contrary to brothers [[ArchangelMichael Michael]] and [[{{Satan}} Lucifer]] Lucifer]], who want to duke it out to determine who controls the Earth. Proving the importance of family was what God was going for the whole time. Never mind God's blatant favoritism of Lucifer, later humanity, and abandonment of his own "children" the angels are the source of most of the problems throughout the latter half of the series. Michael is forced to choose between his brother Lucifer and father God. Lucifer values his siblings the angels, siblings, but is disgusted with his Father father favoring humans. God himself is often said by the main characters to just be another deadbeat father with a list of excuses.
** There's also the case of Adam, the Winchester's Winchesters' half brother, who fell into the void with Michael, Lucifer, and Sam. Sam's soulless body was quickly retrieved, and Dean made a deal with Death to save their souls, who offered him the choice of saving either Sam or Adam from the infinite torments of the frustrated Michael and Lucifer. He picked Sam, and then apparently [[PutOnABusToHell neither of them thought about Adam ever again.]] Way to focus on family there.
** Near the end of season 6, Dean finds out that [[spoiler: Castiel [[spoiler:Castiel has been working with Crowley]], and promptly chews him out for it. Even though Dean did the same thing the previous season. And one of the first things he does in season 7 is [[spoiler: call [[spoiler:call Crowley for help in taking down Cas.]]
* ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'': Elena tries to convince Anna and Jeremy to stop seeing each other by arguing that she can't age or have children and so their relationship can't have a future ([[spoiler: Anna's ([[spoiler:Anna's a ghost,]] so there are other arguments she could have made, but those are the ones she went with). She then immediately returns to work on getting her eternally 17 vampire boyfriend back. To make things worse, Elena explicitly doesn't want to become a vampire, while Jeremy has previously been open to it, making the immortality issue ''more'' of an issue for her.
9th Jun '16 1:22:57 PM ShorinBJ
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** Janet Green calls out pretty much everyone for refusing to give her a second chance without regard for the fact that many of them had done some pretty terrible things themselves.
4th Jun '16 2:32:27 AM RobTan
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** Also, the Vulcan motto is "Infinite diversity in Infinite Combinations", just so long as you think and behave exactly according to the rules that one man wrote thousands of years ago, and don't pollute our gene pool with any half-breed children.

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** Also, the Vulcan motto is "Infinite diversity Diversity in Infinite Combinations", just so long as you think and behave exactly according to the rules that one man wrote thousands of years ago, and don't pollute our gene pool with any half-breed children.
9th May '16 10:02:17 AM RobTan
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** Also, the Vulcan motto is"Infinite diversity in Infinite Combinations", just so long as you think and behave exactly according to the rules that one man wrote thousands of years ago, and don't pollute our gene pool with any half-breed children.

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** Also, the Vulcan motto is"Infinite is "Infinite diversity in Infinite Combinations", just so long as you think and behave exactly according to the rules that one man wrote thousands of years ago, and don't pollute our gene pool with any half-breed children.
9th May '16 5:45:25 AM RobTan
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9th May '16 5:45:24 AM RobTan
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** Also, the Vulcan motto is"Infinite diversity in Infinite Combinations", just so long as you think and behave exactly according to the rules that one man wrote thousands of years ago, and don't pllute our gene pool with any half-breed children.

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** Also, the Vulcan motto is"Infinite diversity in Infinite Combinations", just so long as you think and behave exactly according to the rules that one man wrote thousands of years ago, and don't pllute pollute our gene pool with any half-breed children.
9th May '16 5:45:22 AM RobTan
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** Also, the Vulcan motto is"Infinite diversity in Infinite Combinations", just so long as you think and behave exactly according to the rules that one man wrote thousands of years ago, and don't pllute our gene pool with any half-breed children.
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