History HoYay / StarTrek

* The movies take all this up to eleven. The "Sickbay Scene" from ''[[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture The Motion Picture]]'' used to be pictured on Wiki/TheOtherWiki's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_fiction Slash fiction page]]. (As well as the main HoYay page here.)

* ''[[https://bit.ly/3eHNBk9 Shatner: Where No Man]]'' was a book of interviews with Shatner by two slash fans ([[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Sondra_Marshak Sondra Marshak]] and [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Myrna_Culbreath Myrna Culbreath]][[note]]who denied up and down that they were into slash, but worked with well-known slasher [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Carol_Frisbie Carol Frisbie]] on this book and others, and [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Price_of_the_Phoenix wrote]] [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Fate_of_the_Phoenix the first]] professionally published (by Bantam) [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Prometheus_Design original]] ''Star Trek'' [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Triangle novels]] loaded with what we now call "subtext", which previous generations would refer to as innuendo[[/note]]. Somewhere in this book, Shatner has read a Marshak-Culbreath manuscript in which Kirk is sexually dominated by a stronger female and said he thought it was in keeping with Kirk's character, even if he were angry about the situation, to be "paying something off, sacrificing himself for Spock, or the world, or something" -- and called Kirk/Spock an undying love.[[note]]"Undying love, loyalty, what they would give up for each other, their lives, careers, all of that."[[/note]] The ladies also maneuvered Roddenberry into using the words "deep love" in stating that Kirk and Spock complete each other. Nimoy, while stating that he did ''not'' see them as incomplete without each other, explained that Spock's greatest need is an environment where he can make himself as useful as possible ([[https://archive.org/details/fave_may68_spock_davyjones/1968-05%20fave%20-%20spock_teenageoutcast_01.jpg he reasoned early on that Spock's motivation was to be useful rather than popular]]) and he can work for an "initiator" -- Kirk or whoever -- who creates projects he can be useful in. With characteristic reserve, he concluded that he didn't know what caused ''Star Trek'' fans' sexual preoccupations, but "what you saw is what we did".

* ''[[https://bit.ly/3eHNBk9 Shatner: Where No Man]]'' was a book of interviews with Shatner by two slash fans ([[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Sondra_Marshak Sondra Marshak]] and [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Myrna_Culbreath Myrna Culbreath]][[note]]who denied up and down that they were into slash, but worked with well-known slasher [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Carol_Frisbie Carol Frisbie]] on this book and others, and [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Price_of_the_Phoenix wrote]] [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Fate_of_the_Phoenix the first]] professionally published (by Bantam) [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Prometheus_Design original]] ''Star Trek'' [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Triangle novels]] loaded with what we now call "subtext"[[/note]]. Somewhere in this book, Shatner notes that Kirk would let himself get tortured sexually if it meant protecting Spock and called Kirk/Spock an undying love. The ladies also maneuvered Roddenberry into using the words "deep love" in stating that Kirk and Spock complete each other, and Nimoy finished out with characteristic reserve that he didn't know what caused ''Star Trek'' fans' sexual preoccupations, but "what you saw is what we did".

* ''[[https://bit.ly/3eHNBk9 Shatner: Where No Man]]'' was a book of interviews with Shatner by two slash fans ([[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Sondra_Marshak Sondra Marshak]] and [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Myrna_Culbreath Myrna Culbreath]][[note]]who denied up and down that they were into slash, but worked with well-known slasher [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Carol_Frisbie Carol Frisbie]] on this book and others, and [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Price_of_the_Phoenix wrote]] [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Fate_of_the_Phoenix the first]] professionally published]] [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Prometheus_Design original]] ''Star Trek'' [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Triangle novels]] loaded with what we now call "subtext"[[/note]] which includes Shatner noting that Kirk would let himself get tortured sexually if it meant protecting Spock and called Kirk/Spock an undying love, Roddenberry saying that Kirk and Spock complete each other, and Nimoy finishing out with characteristic reserve, "what you saw is what we did".

** And Kirk/Ben Finney. When Kirk describes his relationship to Finney, he pauses as if he's got a secret. Ben Finney holds an eternal grudge against Kirk, yet still names his daughter after Kirk. In fact, Finney's daughter only realizes that he's gone insane by reading his letters detailing his obsession with Kirk. Exactly what the letters contained was left ambiguous. Same for the episode "Shore Leave", with Kirk and Finnegan.

* ''[[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_New_Voyages Star Trek: The New Voyages]]'', the first professionally published book of fan fiction, credits the fanfic community with helping to save the show after it was cancelled in season two. Slash is not mentioned, but editors Sondra Marshak and Myrna Culbreath were devoted slashers who simply kept their preoccupation to coy little hints and "hurt-comfort" situations. Some of the stories verge on Kirk/Spock, including (in volume two) "Surprise!", a screwball comedy [[https://catboy-doofenshmirtz.tumblr.com/post/643095177752395776 partly written by Nichelle Nichols]] [[https://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-New-Voyages/dp/0553279335 where Spock wants to give Kirk a birthday spanking]].

* ''[[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Shatner:_Where_No_Man... Shatner: Where No Man]]'' was a book that Shatner did with two slash fans ([[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Sondra_Marshak Sondra Marshak]] and [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Myrna_Culbreath Myrna Culbreath]][[note]]who denied up and down that they were into slash, but worked with well-known slasher [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Carol_Frisbie Carol Frisbie]] on this book and others, and [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Price_of_the_Phoenix wrote]] [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Fate_of_the_Phoenix the first]] professionally published]] [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Prometheus_Design original]] ''Star Trek'' [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Triangle novels]] loaded with what we now call "subtext"[[/note]] which includes Shatner noting that Kirk would let himself get tortured sexually if it meant protecting Spock and called Kirk/Spock an undying love, Roddenberry saying that Kirk and Spock complete each other, and Nimoy finishing out with characteristic reserve, "what you saw is what we did".

* The official New Voyages book has a lot of outright appreciation for the slash and fanfic communities, as they helped save the show after it was cancelled in season two. Also it has actual fanfic, nearly all verging on Kirk/Spock, including [[https://catboy-doofenshmirtz.tumblr.com/post/643095177752395776 one written by Nichelle Nichols]] [[https://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-New-Voyages/dp/0553279335 where Spock wants to give Kirk a birthday spanking]].

* “Where No Man” was a book that Shatner did with two slash fans, which includes that Shatner noting that Kirk would let himself get tortured sexually if it meant protecting Spock and called Kirk/Spock an undying love, Roddenberry saying that Kirk and Spock complete each other, and Nimoy finishing out with “what you saw is what we did”.

* The movies take all this UpToEleven. The "Sickbay Scene" from ''[[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture The Motion Picture]]'' used to be pictured on Wiki/TheOtherWiki's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_fiction Slash fiction page]]. (As well as the main HoYay page here.)

* Okay, I'm not usually one to see homosexual innuendo in everything, but in "[[Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS4E5Revulsion Revulsion]]", some of the clean-up hologram's dialogue makes it sound like he's outright ''in love'' with the Doctor. He even suggests they run away together!

** There is also a few intense scenes between Seven and Raffi, including intertwined fingers, that could be interpreted as flirtatious or romantic. (As of Season 2, it's canon.)

** There is also a few intense scenes between Seven and Raffi, including intertwined fingers, that could be interpreted as flirtatious or romantic.

** Roddenberry attempted to mitigate the effect of this and gently dissuade K/S fans by adding an in-character footnote from Kirk which reads like a mix of evasion and HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday. A line-by-line dissection can be found [[http://www.alternateuniverses.com/judygran/footnote.txt here]].

** Then there's gem from "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E29OperationAnnihilate}} Operation: Annihilate!]]":

** In "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS1E22SkinOfEvil}} Skin of Evil]]", Yar ''dies'' trying to rescue Troi from a hostile alien...

* Some of Lore's interactions with Data came off as rather... [[TwinCest suggestive to me]]. In the "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS6E24S7E1Descent}} Descent]]" two-parter especially, where Lore gets Data addicted to his emotions and uses that to manipulate him to his side, taking a rather perverse pleasure in it all the while. Lore actually seems to have a bit of a preoccupation with getting Data to work with him, despite the fact that he could have been rid of the other android a long time ago with as many times as he's incapacitated him.

** The way they touch each other in the opening scene of "[[{{Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS5E18TheFight}} The Fight]]" makes it almost impossible to watch the rest of the episode with your slash goggles off.
** In the fourth season TwoPartEpisode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS4E8YearOfHell}} Year of Hell]]", Chakotay and Paris are taken captive aboard the Krenim time ship for months. In discussing their situation, Paris somewhat sheepishly admits that he has been spending time with handsome Krenim crewmember Obrist. The look on his face as he says it is peculiar, especially since Chakotay has also been hanging around with the ship's tyrannical commander Annorax, so it is not as if there is anything off about associating with their captors. Why be embarrassed? Obrist, for his part, seems very taken with Paris and ultimately does everything he can to help him. It becomes apparent in the end that Obrist did not need Paris or Chakotay to help him mutiny and disable the time ship, he is able to do it entirely on his own. But his actions seem as much motivated by a desire to help Paris as to finally stop Annorax, and he makes a point to beam Chakotay and Paris to safety before lowering the time ship's defenses exposing it to attack.
* Some of Barclay's interactions with the holo-Voyager in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS6E10Pathfinder}} Pathfinder]]" verge on this, from Harry Kim fetching him drinks and asking Barclay to [[InnocentInnuendo "go easy on me tonight"]] (at velocity) to Admiral Paris' observation that "I understand you've been spending time with a holographic re-creation of my son."

* Okay, I'm not usually one to see homosexual innuendo in everything, but in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS4E5Revulsion}} Revulsion]]", some of the clean-up hologram's dialogue makes it sound like he's outright ''in love'' with the Doctor. He even suggests they run away together!
* And then there's this bizarre line of dialogue from the season four episode "[[{{Recap/StarTrekVoyagerS4E4Nemesis}} Nemesis]]":

* And of course there is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCC0OaU8ndA the infamous backrub scene]]. And the episode "[[Recap/StarTrekS2E1AmokTime Amok Time]]" (see image). [[RhetoricalQuestionBlunder Pon farr anyone?]]

* Kirk and Khan have a little bit of FoeYay happening.

* Data's FoeYay with Kivas Fajo in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E22TheMostToys}} The Most Toys]]". At one point, Fajo throws acid on Data so that he'll change into the clothes he's laid out for him, and then goes on to say that he wouldn't mind if Data just went around naked.

--> "[[FoeYay My]] [[TheMaster dear]] [[Series/DoctorWho Doctor]]..."

* There's also a lot of FoeYay between Odo and Quark. Particularly in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS05E09TheAscent}} The Ascent]]" and in "[[{{Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS07E25E26WhatYouLeaveBehind}} What You Leave Behind]]".

* Also, there's the Borg Queen's FoeYay with Seven. "You were always my favorite, Seven" (while caressing her cheek).

* The movies take all this UpToEleven. The "Sickbay Scene" from ''[[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture The Motion Picture]]'' is actually pictured on Wiki/TheOtherWiki's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_fiction Slash fiction page]]. (As well as the main HoYay page here.)

** Kirk and Spock resume fighting, and things get . . . well. . . suggestive (see the page image). Then Spock gets pulls a strap around Kirk’s throat and uses it to choke him. The moment Kirk stops moving, Spock seems to come out of a daze. He stands up—his eyes wide—and stumbles back in horror.

--->'''Spock''' On your earth the salmon, they must return to that one stream where they were born to spawn, or die in trying...the ancient drives are too strong, eventually they catch up with us, we are driven by forces we cannot control to return home and take a wife, or die."

** In what must be his second or third appearance, Shran admits that he has been unable to ''sleep through the night'' thinking about how much he... ''"owes"'' Archer. He crosses into an incredibly dangerous part of space specifically to aid him, and while probably under orders to do so, he doesn't complain about it the way he complains about nearly ''everything else.'' His description of a recent romantic conquest (to Archer, no less) seems very "HaveIMentionedImHeterosexualToday?"

* Bashir and O'Brien in ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' ("I like you just a little bit more") are a very popular ship with many moments in canon that shippers are quick to bring up.
** O'Brien told Bashir he wishes Keiko was "more like a man", his LastSecondWordSwap for "more like you."
---> '''O'Brien:''' See, you understand! Now why can't she see that? Why can't she be more like y- uh...
--->'''Bashir:''' More like...?
--->'''O'Brien:''' Err, um, a man, more like a man.
*** "People either love you or hate you...I mean, I hated you when we first met, and now I ... don't. And that's from the heart! I really do... [[CannotSpitItOut not hate you anymore.]]"
*** In "[[{{Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS07E23ExtremeMeasures}} Extreme Measures]]", we have a line where Bashir tries to convince O'Brien that he likes him more than his wife, states that he likes him better than his girlfriend Ezri, and starts pouting when O'Brien won't admit that he loves him. It should also be noted that in the final episode there are a bunch of montages showing some character's fondest memories on the station. Every. Single. One of O'Brien's memories feature Julian. Not one contains his wife. Also the episode where O'Brien nearly committed suicide, it was Julian talking him out of it and his wife...wasn’t.
*** EveryoneCanSeeIt - even Molly, who's convinced that moving to Earth is a lie because Julian's not coming with.

** The actors have also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tq8zaSObWU LITERALLY acted out out fan-fic together]], not once, but [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M44QMKWMxuQ&list=PLL6Y6m9C-4ulaz0BIRw4Kf4ebSEWVzaT5 twice]]!

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** The actors have also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tq8zaSObWU LITERALY acted out out fan-fic together]] not once but ][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M44QMKWMxuQ&list=PLL6Y6m9C-4ulaz0BIRw4Kf4ebSEWVzaT5 twice]]!

** The actors have also [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tq8zaSObWU LITERALY acted out out fan-fic together] not once but [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M44QMKWMxuQ&list=PLL6Y6m9C-4ulaz0BIRw4Kf4ebSEWVzaT5 twice]!