History HoYay / StarTrek

11th Jun '18 8:34:19 PM SweetFirefly
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**"[[BedmateReveal Morning]], [[Funny/StarTrekTheNextGeneration darling."]]
11th Jun '18 2:46:38 PM smasll_lordvoice
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* Hoshi and Rajiin from the episode of the same name. It is basically impossible to see [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qYXtYq5K5k this scene]] between them as anything ''other'' than lesbian flirtation.
4th Jun '18 12:56:26 AM CaptEquinox
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** Along with ''Star Trek'' FanFic overall, SlashFic completely changed not only ''Star Trek'' fandom, but media fandom as a whole. Slash changed the way viewers (especially young female viewers) consume media. Numerous girls found it [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Girls_who_are_boys_who_like_boys_to_be_girls... personally empowering]] in allowing them to explore their own orientations. Today's fan writers who take it for granted that the two male leads of any series should (or must) be portrayed as having romance may be unaware that [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Slash_Controversies slash was once extremely controversial]].[[note]]See Henry Jenkins' book ''[[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Textual_Poachers:_Television_Fans_and_Participatory_Culture Textual Poachers]]'' for a look at just how influential Trek slash has been over the decades.[[/note]]

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** Along with ''Star Trek'' FanFic overall, SlashFic completely changed not only ''Star Trek'' fandom, but media fandom as a whole. Slash changed the way viewers (especially young female viewers) consume media. Numerous girls found it [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Girls_who_are_boys_who_like_boys_to_be_girls... [[https://bit.ly/2J9UmdY personally empowering]] in allowing many ways including making them feel free to explore their own orientations. Today's fan writers who take it for granted that the two male leads of any series should (or must) be portrayed as having romance may be unaware that [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Slash_Controversies slash was once extremely controversial]].[[note]]See Henry Jenkins' book ''[[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Textual_Poachers:_Television_Fans_and_Participatory_Culture Textual Poachers]]'' for a look at just how influential Trek slash has been over the decades.[[/note]]
4th Jun '18 12:54:52 AM CaptEquinox
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* Jim Kirk and Spock from ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''. They are now the first "couple" listed in Time Magazine's "Most influential People Who've Never Lived". ''First '''Couple'''''.

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* Jim Kirk and Spock from ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries''. They are now the first "couple" listed in Time Magazine's "Most influential Influential People Who've Never Lived". ''First '''Couple'''''.



** Along with ''Star Trek'' FanFic overall, SlashFic completely changed not only ''Star Trek'' fandom, but media fandom as a whole. Slash changed the way viewers (especially young female viewers) consume media. Numerous girls found it [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Girls_who_are_boys_who_like_boys_to_be_girls... personally empowering]] in allowing them to explore their own orientations. Today's fan writers who take it for granted that the two male leads of any series should (or must) be portrayed as having romance may be unaware that [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Slash_Controversies slash was once extremely controversial]].[[note]]See Henry Jenkins' book ''[[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Textual_Poachers:_Television_Fans_and_Participatory_Culture Textual Poachers]]'' for a look at just how influential Trek slash has been over the decades.[[/note]]



* In Journey to Babel, we meet Spock's parents and learn that Vulcans kiss by touching the tips of their index and middle fingers together. This knowledge [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar changes the way you view certain scenes.]]

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* In Journey "Journey to Babel, Babel", we meet Spock's parents parents. Amanda and learn that Vulcans kiss by touching Sarek touch the tips of their index and middle fingers together. This knowledge together several times. As they do this in public, three times in front of Kirk and others, this gesture is more likely to be Vulcan hand-holding, but slash fans like to assume this is how Vulcans kiss, which may [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar changes change the way you view certain scenes.]]



** But something goes wrong. The priestess mind melds with Spock to find the problem, and she sees something. We don't know what it is, but she pulls away and says:

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** But something goes wrong.Spock pushes her hand aside as she's about to give him the official medallion. The priestess mind melds with Spock to find the problem, and she sees something. We don't know what it is, but she pulls away and says:



* ''[[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan The Wrath of Khan]]'' isn't exactly short on the Ho Yay either, considering that during Spock's death scene Kirk and Spock could be seen to be ''Vulcan kissing'' [[note]]Technically it isn't. Spock gives a Vulcan salute and Kirk, unable to part his fingers properly, just puts his hand up to the glass. The actual Vulcan kiss is the two-fingered embrace Spock's parents do in "Journey to Babel".[[/note]] through the damn glass. Prior to this, it took Scotty, Bones, ''and'' a third crewman to keep Kirk from going in there to get Spock out...

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* ''[[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan The Wrath of Khan]]'' isn't exactly short on the Ho Yay either, considering that during Spock's death scene Kirk and Spock could be seen to be ''Vulcan kissing'' [[note]]Technically it isn't. Spock gives a Vulcan salute and Kirk, unable to part his fingers properly, just puts his hand up to the glass. The actual Vulcan kiss is A more intimate gesture would be the two-fingered embrace "embrace" Spock's parents do. We never see Spock do in "Journey to Babel".this with Kirk.[[/note]] through the damn glass. Prior to this, it took Scotty, Bones, ''and'' a third crewman to keep Kirk from going in there to get Spock out...
29th Apr '18 8:55:54 AM costanton11
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---> '''Dr. [=McCoy=]''' You see, I feel sorrier for you than I do for him because you'll never know the things that love can drive a man to. [[StarTrekTheMotionPicture The ecstasies,]] [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan the miseries,]] [[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock the broken rules, the desperate chances,]] the glorious failures, [[Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome the glorious victories.]] All of [[{{Irony}} these things you'll never know simply because the word love isn't written into your book.]]

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---> '''Dr. [=McCoy=]''' You see, I feel sorrier for you than I do for him because you'll never know the things that love can drive a man to. [[StarTrekTheMotionPicture [[Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture The ecstasies,]] [[Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan the miseries,]] [[Film/StarTrekIIITheSearchForSpock the broken rules, the desperate chances,]] the glorious failures, [[Film/StarTrekIVTheVoyageHome the glorious victories.]] All of [[{{Irony}} these things you'll never know simply because the word love isn't written into your book.]]



* At the beginning of StarTrekTheMotionPicture, Spock has gone to Vulcan to undergo Kolinahr, a Vulcan ritual to purge all emotion.

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* At the beginning of StarTrekTheMotionPicture, ''Film/StarTrekTheMotionPicture'', Spock has gone to Vulcan to undergo Kolinahr, a Vulcan ritual to purge all emotion.
8th Apr '18 4:55:40 PM CaptEquinox
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--->'''Spock''': [[SayMyName . . . Jim . . . your name . . . is Jim.]]

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--->'''Spock''': [[SayMyName . . . Jim . . . My father says that you have been my friend. You came back for me. Why would you do this?
--->'''Kirk.''' Because the needs of the one outweighed the needs of the many.
--->'''Spock.''' ''(starting to remember)'' I have been, and always shall be,
your name . . .friend.
--->'''Kirk.''' Yes, Spock.
--->'''Spock.''' Ship, out of danger?
--->'''Kirk.''' You saved the ship, Spock, you saved us all. Don't you remember?
--->'''Spock.''' ''(and that's when it clicks.)'' Jim. [[SayMyName Your name...
is Jim.]] ]]
25th Mar '18 9:06:30 PM CaptEquinox
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*** In 2016, D.C. Fontana angrily denied that gay subtext had been deliberately written into "Amok Time". She denounced these speculations as "nonsense". She is one of the closest sources we have to WordOfGod now that Gene's dead. Of course, since people believe what they want to believe, slash fans will just say "well, that's what she ''says''," and continue to call her a "K/S Fangirl" for her involvement as story editor on what they consider "obvious" episodes.

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*** In 2016, D.[[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Amok_Time#D.C. _Fontana_on_Canon_Slash D.C. Fontana angrily denied that gay subtext subtext]] had been deliberately written into "Amok Time". She denounced these speculations as "nonsense". She is one of the closest sources we have to WordOfGod now that Gene's dead. Of course, since people believe what they want to believe, slash fans will just say "well, that's what she ''says''," and continue to call her a "K/S Fangirl" for her involvement as story editor on what they consider "obvious" episodes.
7th Feb '18 1:12:25 PM zanyzana
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* The ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Next Generation]]'' episode "Suddenly Human" saw the Enterprise rescue a group of aliens, one of whom turns out to be a human teenager who had been raised in the aliens' culture. He wants to go back to the aliens, but Picard wants him to return to his human family and tries to bond with him to convince him to do so. They play racquetball together (in unitards that show off Picard's excellent-for-his-age body), which makes the boy break down crying as he remembers the attack that killed his human parents. Picard ''holds him and strokes his hair''. The boy ''feels conflicted and goes over to Picard's bedside (he was staying in Picard's room at that point)'' and stabs him. This makes Picard realize [[StayWithTheAliens he belongs with the aliens]], and the boy goes, ''but not before doing the touching-foreheads thing that indicates affection in his culture with Picard''. There was so much HoYay it was just dizzying.
** It doesn't help that the kid is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Allen_%28actor%29 Chad Allen]].
** That interpretation is just this side of squick, unless you're an Ancient Greek.
** This is getting to be "There are no parental-figure or respected mentor relationships in the future. Affection without sexual intent is a thing of the past." Paging Dr. Freud...
25th Jan '18 6:03:23 PM Mullon
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* "The Devil in the Dark", Kirk and Spock argue about killing the Horta, Spock doesn't approve of the idea because he believes it is the only Horta left. But when Kirk tells Spock over communicator that the Horta is in the room with him Spock insists Kirk kill it immediately.
29th Dec '17 1:39:41 PM CaptEquinox
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** Kirk/Spock is in fact [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Slash#History_of_the_Term where the term "slash" comes from]] and one of the most famous examples of SlashFic. They didn't really start the whole thing -- Holmes and Watson have been slashed for decades, and Dr. Fredric Wertham confirmed he'd interviewed gay men who took it for granted that [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce and Dick]] were intended as a gay couple. Such stories were likely written about [[Series/TheManFromUncle Napoleon and Ilya]] and [[Series/TheWildWildWest Artemus & James]], among others. But they were clandestine -- what's known as "drawerfic", at best mailed privately to a handful of friends. Kirk/Spock slash stories were the first to be circulated among fans in actual fanzines. They were taking a huge risk by doing so, since homosexuality in fiction was considered pornographic in most states even if nothing explicit happened, and using the U.S. Mail to distribute pornography is still a federal crime.

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** Kirk/Spock is in fact [[https://fanlore.org/wiki/Slash#History_of_the_Term where the term "slash" comes from]] and one of the most famous examples of SlashFic. They didn't really start the whole thing -- Holmes and Watson have been slashed for decades, and Dr. Fredric Wertham confirmed he'd interviewed gay men who took it for granted that [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce and Dick]] were intended as a gay couple. Creator/RobertCrumb's brother Charles used to create gay fantasy illustrations based on ''Film/TreasureIsland1950''. Such stories were likely written about [[Series/TheManFromUncle Napoleon and Ilya]] and [[Series/TheWildWildWest Artemus & James]], among others. But they were clandestine -- what's known as "drawerfic", at best mailed privately to a handful of friends. Kirk/Spock slash stories were the first to be circulated among fans in actual fanzines. They were taking a huge risk by doing so, since homosexuality in fiction was considered pornographic in most states even if nothing explicit happened, and using the U.S. Mail to distribute pornography is still a federal crime.
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