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* Snape's desire to look into Harry's eyes is... suggestive, as [[http://slinkers.deviantart.com/gallery/217757?offset=24#/d13laoi this comic]] so geniously illustrates.

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* Snape's desire to look into Harry's eyes is... suggestive, as [[http://slinkers.deviantart.com/gallery/217757?offset=24#/d13laoi this comic]] so geniously illustrates.illustrates.
** [[spoiler: Probably because Harry inherited those eyes from Lily, the only person Snape truly loved.]]
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**** And now Grindlewald is being played by the same [[EstrogenBrigadeBait extremely pretty]] actor who played Anthony in ''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet''. And he apparently ships Grindeldore.

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**** And now Grindlewald is being played by the same [[EstrogenBrigadeBait [[MrFanservice extremely pretty]] actor who played Anthony in ''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet''. And he apparently ships Grindeldore.

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*** This troper would like to point out that JK explicitly states that Sirius and JAMES shared the closest friendship of the group. Make of that what you will.
**** "Close" is not synonymous with "romantic". Sirius can be James's best friend and Remus's lover, even though the lover is of the same sex as the friend. What's irritating is that this problem never comes up if the love interest is of the opposite sex -- no one says that Ron can't be in love with Hermione if his best friend is Harry. And is there something that makes it impossible for a gay/bi man to have a male, platonic best friend? Because lots of ''straight'' characters have platonic best friends of the ''opposite'' sex, [[UnfortunateImplications so....what?]] AllGaysArePromiscuous?
**** OK, so who's to say ''Remus'' isn't Sirius' platonic male friend? I mean, since neither ship is canon.
*** Of course, the [[FantasticRacism Fantastic Prejudice]] that Remus is faced against is pretty similar to the kind of thing a gay man might face..."Parents don't want someone like me teaching their children", anyone? Sure, J.K. made him canonically straight, but you don't need to be gay to be a metaphor for gay people (see any given issue of ''{{ComicBook/X-Men}}'').
**** The metaphor doesn't hold up too well once you realize that Lupin quite nearly killed or injured several of his students because he forgot to take his potion, unless you want to draw parallels to chemical castration.
***** In this scenario, wouldn't Wolfsbane Potion be analogous to chemical castration?
***** '''[[http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/04/04/Prof_Lupin_Gay_in_Prisoner_of_Azkaban/ Ahem.]]'''
**** "J.K. made him canonically straight"? Because [[SarcasmMode surely]], there are NoBisexuals and his marrying a woman means there's ''no way'' he could have had feelings for a man before. IfItsYouItsOkay couldn't possibly apply to either of them regardless of his sexuality.

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*** **** In the fifth Harry Potter book, Sirius and Lupin have a HeldGaze moment.
--> Lupin's eyes were fixed on Sirius.
--> *39 lines later*
--> "Personally.", said Lupin quietly, looking away from Sirius at last.
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This troper would like to point out that JK explicitly states that Sirius and JAMES shared the closest friendship of the group. Make of that what you will.
**** "Close" is not synonymous with "romantic". Sirius can be James's best friend and Remus's lover, even though the lover is of the same sex as the friend. What's irritating is that this problem never comes up if the love interest is of the opposite sex -- no one says that Ron can't be in love with Hermione if his best friend is Harry. And is there something that makes it impossible for a gay/bi man to have a male, platonic best friend? Because lots of ''straight'' characters have platonic best friends of the ''opposite'' sex, [[UnfortunateImplications so....what?]] AllGaysArePromiscuous?
**** OK, so who's to say ''Remus'' isn't Sirius' platonic male friend? I mean, since neither ship is canon.
*** Of course, the [[FantasticRacism Fantastic Prejudice]] that Remus is faced against is pretty similar to the kind of thing a gay man might face..."Parents don't want someone like me teaching their children", anyone? Sure, J.K. made him canonically straight, but you don't need to be gay to be a metaphor for gay people (see any given issue of ''{{ComicBook/X-Men}}'').
**** The metaphor doesn't hold up too well once you realize that Lupin quite nearly killed or injured several of his students because he forgot to take his potion, unless you want to draw parallels to chemical castration.
***** In this scenario, wouldn't Wolfsbane Potion be analogous to chemical castration?
***** '''[[http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/04/04/Prof_Lupin_Gay_in_Prisoner_of_Azkaban/ Ahem.]]'''
**** "J.K. made him canonically straight"? Because [[SarcasmMode surely]], there are NoBisexuals and his marrying a woman means there's ''no way'' he could have had feelings for a man before. IfItsYouItsOkay couldn't possibly apply to either of them regardless of his sexuality.
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**** You have to note though, that Lupin only got with Tonks ''after'' Sirus died.
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*** Harry asking Ron to go away with him before the wedding in TDH part one.
*** And later on, Ron pulling a shirtless Harry from the lake before their Crowing Moment of Heartwarming.



*** Draco's initial interest in Harry, their bickering {{like an old married couple}} throughout the series, and Draco's reluctance to confirm Harry's identity at Malfoy Manor.
*** "Malfoy was screaming and holding Harry so tightly it hurt." This is why every {{yaoi fangirl}} has page 634 of The Deathly Hallows dog-eared.



* [[ThoseTwoGuys Dean and Seamus]] are seen dancing together(as in classic ballroom dance, rather... close)in the fourth movie.

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* [[ThoseTwoGuys Dean and Seamus]] are seen dancing together(as in classic ballroom dance, rather... close)in the fourth movie.movie.
** Fred and George can be seen dancing together as well, but then, the two clearly bathe in {{twincest}}.
* Voldemort and Draco's bizare hug in The Deathly Hallows Part Two.
* Snape's desire to look into Harry's eyes is... suggestive, as [[http://slinkers.deviantart.com/gallery/217757?offset=24#/d13laoi this comic]] so geniously illustrates.
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*****In this scenario, wouldn't Wolfsbane Potion be analogous to chemical castration?
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***Not to mention Dudley asking Harry, "Who's Cedric, your boyfriend?" in Order of the Phoenix. Which Harry doesn't actually deny. And it comes after Harry asking Dudley, "What do you mean, I'm not brave in bed?"
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**** And now Grindlewald is being played by the same [[EstrogenBrigadeBait extremely pretty]] actor who played Anthony in ''SweeneyTodd''. And he apparently ships Grindeldore.

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**** And now Grindlewald is being played by the same [[EstrogenBrigadeBait extremely pretty]] actor who played Anthony in ''SweeneyTodd''.''Film/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet''. And he apparently ships Grindeldore.
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* Barty Crouch Jr. definitely seems to idolise Voldemort ''[[{{Understatement}} a bit too much]]''. It's taken to the extreme in the film adaptation of Goblet of Fire when he actually wipes blood off Harry's arm saying that his blood now runs within the Dark Lord, before [[{{Squick}} licking it off his finger]].

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* Barty Crouch Jr. definitely seems to idolise Voldemort ''[[{{Understatement}} a bit ''bit'' too much]]''.much. It's taken to the extreme in the film adaptation of Goblet of Fire when he actually wipes blood off Harry's arm saying that his blood now runs within the Dark Lord, before [[{{Squick}} licking it off his finger]].
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**** And the fact that Harry's boycrush is, by extention, on [[spoiler:Snape]].
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* Barty Crouch Jr. definitely seems to idolise Voldemort ''[[{{Understatement}} a bit too much]]''. It's taken to the extreme in the film adaptation of Goblet of Fire when he actually wipes blood off Harry's arm saying that his blood now runs within the Dark Lord, before [[{{Squick}} licking it off his finger]].

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* Barty Crouch Jr. definitely seems to idolise Voldemort ''[[{{Understatement}} a bit too much]]''. It's taken to the extreme in the film adaptation of Goblet of Fire when he actually wipes blood off Harry's arm saying that his blood now runs within the Dark Lord, before [[{{Squick}} licking it off his finger]].finger]].
* [[ThoseTwoGuys Dean and Seamus]] are seen dancing together(as in classic ballroom dance, rather... close)in the fourth movie.
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**** "J.K. made him canonically straight"? Because [[SarcasmMode surely]], there are NoBisexuals and his marrying a woman means there's ''no way'' he could have had feelings for a man before. IfItsYouItsOkay couldn't possibly apply to either of them regardless of his sexuality.
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*** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fH7SUuiUF8 The Soup]] completely backs you up on this.

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*** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fH7SUuiUF8 com/watch?v=iprlDliJFvY The Soup]] completely backs you up on this.
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*** One example: towards the beginning of the film version of ''Order of the Phoenix'', in the first scene in 12 Grimmauld Place, there's a shot where Sirius just so happens to be sitting in front of a map, which Lupin just so happens to be reading over the top of Sirius's head. The result is a little like spooning. Also, it's been said that in an early draft of the same book, Rowling had them giving Harry one Christmas present between the pair of them, which is traditionally almost only done by couples, even though in their case it's also just a practical way for a wanted criminal and a man with very little money to handle shopping for presents.
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*** That's not counting Ron sounding ''jealous''

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*** That's not counting Ron sounding ''jealous''''jealous''
* Barty Crouch Jr. definitely seems to idolise Voldemort ''[[{{Understatement}} a bit too much]]''. It's taken to the extreme in the film adaptation of Goblet of Fire when he actually wipes blood off Harry's arm saying that his blood now runs within the Dark Lord, before [[{{Squick}} licking it off his finger]].
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** Combine this with the GoF example above and it's safe to say that the Malay translators are either bad at their job or fangirls trying to get crap past the radar.

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** Combine this with the GoF GOF example above and it's safe to say that the Malay translators are either bad at their job or fangirls trying to get crap past the radar.

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*** It was even more explicit in the Malaysian translation of Goblet of Fire, where the contestants have to rescue the thing they ''love'' the most. This troper did a DoubleTake when she read the line, and was very disappointed when she read the English version.

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*** It was even more explicit in the Malaysian Malay translation of Goblet of Fire, where the it was translated as "the contestants have to rescue the thing they ''love'' the most.most". This troper did a DoubleTake when she read the line, and was very disappointed when she read the English version.


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** Combine this with the GoF example above and it's safe to say that the Malay translators are either bad at their job or fangirls trying to get crap past the radar.
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***** '''[[http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/04/04/Prof_Lupin_Gay_in_Prisoner_of_Azkaban/ Ahem.]]'''
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---> '''Ron:''' Yeah you do. You read a chapter everyday before you go to bed - all you do is read that bloody book!

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---> '''Ron:''' Yeah you do. You read a chapter everyday before you go to bed - all you do is read that bloody book!book!
*** That's not counting Ron sounding ''jealous''
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****OK, so who's to say ''Remus'' isn't Sirius' platonic male friend? I mean, since neither ship is canon.
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* Harry's massive boycrush on the titular Prince in HBP.

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* Harry's massive boycrush on the titular Prince in HBP.HBP.
---> '''Hermione:''' For weeks you carry around this book - practically ''sleep'' with it.
---> '''Harry:''' I do not sleep with it!
---> '''Ron:''' Yeah you do. You read a chapter everyday before you go to bed - all you do is read that bloody book!
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** Ron even said he wanted Viktor to sleep in his room. "We could offer him a space a space in our dormitory, Harry ... I wouldn't mind giving him my bed, I could kip on a camp-bed."
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**** It's worth noting that Harry has thought of Tom Riddle as handsome seven times. Dumbledore, [[spoiler: who's gay]], only referred to Riddle as handsome once.



* In the chapter The Unbreakable Vow in HBP, the Malay version states that Harry is surprised to hear Draco talking rudely to Professor Snape, who is usually 'dihormatinya malah disayangi', which literally translates to 'respected, even ''loved'' by him'. Ahahaha...

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* In the chapter The Unbreakable Vow in HBP, the Malay version states that Harry is surprised to hear Draco talking rudely to Professor Snape, who is usually 'dihormatinya malah disayangi', which literally translates to 'respected, even ''loved'' by him'. Ahahaha...Ahahaha...
* Colin Creevey's fanboy crush on Harry.
* Harry's massive boycrush on the titular Prince in HBP.

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*** Of course, the [[FantasticRacism Fantastic Prejudice]] that Remus is faced against is pretty similar to the kind of thing a gay man might face..."Parents don't want someone like me teaching their children", anyone? Sure, J.K. made him canonically straight, but you don't need to be gay to be a metaphor for gay people (see any given issue of ''{{ComicBook/X-Men}}''). ****The metaphor doesn't hold up too well once you realize that Lupin quite nearly killed or injured several of his students because he forgot to take his potion, unless you want to draw parallels to chemical castration.

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*** Of course, the [[FantasticRacism Fantastic Prejudice]] that Remus is faced against is pretty similar to the kind of thing a gay man might face..."Parents don't want someone like me teaching their children", anyone? Sure, J.K. made him canonically straight, but you don't need to be gay to be a metaphor for gay people (see any given issue of ''{{ComicBook/X-Men}}''). ''{{ComicBook/X-Men}}'').
****The metaphor doesn't hold up too well once you realize that Lupin quite nearly killed or injured several of his students because he forgot to take his potion, unless you want to draw parallels to chemical castration.

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** Don't forget the considerable amount of FoeYay between Harry and Draco, especially in the [[HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince sixth book]]. For this, read the FoeYay page.

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** Don't forget the considerable amount of FoeYay between Harry and Draco, especially in the [[HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince sixth book]]. For this, read the FoeYay page.page.
***And Harry/Snape.



*** "Close" is not synonymous with "romantic". Sirius can be James's best friend and Remus's lover, even though the lover is of the same sex as the friend. What's irritating is that this problem never comes up if the love interest is of the opposite sex -- no one says that Ron can't be in love with Hermione if his best friend is Harry. And is there something that makes it impossible for a gay/bi man to have a male, platonic best friend? Because lots of ''straight'' characters have platonic best friends of the ''opposite'' sex, [[UnfortunateImplications so....what?]] AllGaysArePromiscuous?
*** Of course, the [[FantasticRacism Fantastic Prejudice]] that Remus is faced against is pretty similar to the kind of thing a gay man might face..."Parents don't want someone like me teaching their children", anyone? Sure, J.K. made him canonically straight, but you don't need to be gay to be a metaphor for gay people (see any given issue of ''{{ComicBook/X-Men}}''). The metaphor doesn't hold up too well once you realize that Lupin quite nearly killed or injured several of his students because he forgot to take his potion, unless you want to draw parallels to chemical castration.
*** Even Snape read their relationship in ''HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'':
--->Listen to you two, quarrelling ''[[LikeAnOldMarriedCouple like an old, married couple]]''.
*** It's worth pointing out that that was strictly a movie line - but it does go to show that the Ho Yay was obvious to more than just overeager fangirls. (And yes, there were R/S shippers around before the third movie came out. Just not as many of them.)

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*** **** "Close" is not synonymous with "romantic". Sirius can be James's best friend and Remus's lover, even though the lover is of the same sex as the friend. What's irritating is that this problem never comes up if the love interest is of the opposite sex -- no one says that Ron can't be in love with Hermione if his best friend is Harry. And is there something that makes it impossible for a gay/bi man to have a male, platonic best friend? Because lots of ''straight'' characters have platonic best friends of the ''opposite'' sex, [[UnfortunateImplications so....what?]] AllGaysArePromiscuous?
*** Of course, the [[FantasticRacism Fantastic Prejudice]] that Remus is faced against is pretty similar to the kind of thing a gay man might face..."Parents don't want someone like me teaching their children", anyone? Sure, J.K. made him canonically straight, but you don't need to be gay to be a metaphor for gay people (see any given issue of ''{{ComicBook/X-Men}}''). The ****The metaphor doesn't hold up too well once you realize that Lupin quite nearly killed or injured several of his students because he forgot to take his potion, unless you want to draw parallels to chemical castration.
*** Even Snape read their relationship in ''HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'':
--->Listen to you two, quarrelling ''[[LikeAnOldMarriedCouple like an old, married couple]]''.
*** It's worth pointing out that that was strictly a movie line - but it does go to show that the Ho Yay was obvious to more than just overeager fangirls. (And yes, there were R/S shippers around before the third movie came out. Just not as many of them.)
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** And now Grindlewald is being played by the same [[EstrogenBrigadeBait extremely pretty]] actor who played Anthony in ''SweeneyTodd''. And he apparently ships Grindeldore.

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** **** And now Grindlewald is being played by the same [[EstrogenBrigadeBait extremely pretty]] actor who played Anthony in ''SweeneyTodd''. And he apparently ships Grindeldore.



** Black later tells James he was watching ''Snape'' during the exam (presumably ignoring his erstwhile fangirls at the same time.) Perhaps there were other reasons James thought Black might want to see Snape lose his undies...
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** Black later tells James he was watching ''Snape'' during throughout the exam (presumably ignoring his erstwhile fangirls at the same time.) Perhaps there were other reasons James thought Black might want to see Snape lose his undies...
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*** Only because J.K. Rowling ''laid'' it out for us.
--->Lupin let go of Black and turned to her. She had raised herself off the floor and was pointing at Lupin, wild-eyed.
--->"You! You!"
--->"Hermione!"
--->"You and him!"
--->"Hermione, calm down!"
--->"I didn't tell anyone!" Hermione shrieked. "I've been covering up for you!"
--->"Hermione, listen to me, please!" Lupin shouted. "I can explain!"



*** Hey, they had that great reunion scene in the shack, lived together for a bit, acted as co-godparents. On top of all that, they were totally free of (known to the readers) romantic ties until one of them died. It's not hard to see why they're a huge, if totally fanon, ship. One could also draw parallels with James and Lily: best buds Sirius and James go off with their respective partners whose animal personas they match (stag/doe, wolf/dog).
*** It can't be helped since Sirius is the [[{{Seme}} black-haired, tall, dark, handsome extrovert]], while Remus is the [[{{Uke}} cute, too-effeminate-for-his-own-good bookworm]]. [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls It's the supreme, perfect slash couple that every girl dreams about]].



** It's also worth mentioning that Harry himself has a lot of StupidSexyFlanders moments when Bill Weasley is around, and when watching Tom Riddle in the Pensieve. And at least one moment with Cedric Diggory...and he pretty much can't refer to Sirius's teenage self without dropping the word "handsome" and I'm fairly certain pretty much anyone that recalled Sirius from the past (excluding Snape, of course) mentioned his good looks.
* Snape/Lucius seems to be fairly popular in some circles. It makes some kind of sense [[spoiler: even if Rowling made sure to disappoint all of these shippers by making it clear that Snape only ever loved Lily]]: Lucius is rich, powerful, good-looking, and commands a lot of respect, and someone like Snape would admire that.
** There's even a line about Snape being Lucius' lapdog. You also don't have to be in love with someone in order to have relations, IfYouKnowWhatIMean.
* Sirius/James can be seen in the memory that Harry's dropped into in 5th book. Sirius looks like he could care less about the girls who are interested in him, and James, despite obviously being the ring leader of their group, goes out of his way to entertain Sirius. Sure, bullying poor Severus was a favorite past time of theirs, but had they really been like brothers, James could've just as easily said "you're always bored" or "put a sock in it" like a normal sibling, especially if he just wanted to lay there and play with the Snitch. And Sirius, while the reason James started the bullying in the first place, only personally gets involved when James gets a cut on his cheek. Had they just been friends, like they were with Remus and Peter, Sirius probably would've either helped James bully Snape earlier on or would've stayed out of it aside from laughing, like Peter did.

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** It's also worth mentioning that Harry himself has a lot of StupidSexyFlanders moments when Bill Weasley is around, and when watching Tom Riddle in the Pensieve. And at least one moment with Cedric Diggory...and he pretty much can't refer to Sirius's teenage self without dropping the word "handsome" and I'm fairly certain pretty much anyone that recalled Sirius from the past (excluding Snape, of course) mentioned his good looks.
* Snape/Lucius seems to be fairly popular in some circles. It makes some kind of sense [[spoiler: even if Rowling made sure to disappoint all of these shippers by making it clear that Snape only ever loved Lily]]: Lucius is rich, powerful, good-looking, and commands a lot of respect, and someone like Snape would admire that.
** There's even a line about Snape being Lucius' lapdog. You also don't have to be in love with someone in order to have relations, IfYouKnowWhatIMean.
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* Sirius/James can be seen in Snape's Worst Memory in the memory that Harry's dropped into in 5th book. Sirius looks like he could couldn't care less about the girls who are interested in him, and James, despite obviously being the ring leader of their group, goes out of his way to entertain Sirius. Sure, bullying poor Severus was a favorite past time of theirs, but had they really been like brothers, Sirius.
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James could've just as easily said "you're always bored" or "put a sock in it" like a normal sibling, especially if he just wanted to lay was watching ''Snape'' during the exam (presumably ignoring his erstwhile fangirls at the same time.) Perhaps there and play with the Snitch. And Sirius, while the reason were other reasons James started thought Black might want to see Snape lose his undies...
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*** "Close" is not synonymous with "romantic". A person can be someone's best friend and someone else's lover, even if the lover is of the same sex as the friend.

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*** "Close" is not synonymous with "romantic". A person Sirius can be someone's James's best friend and someone else's Remus's lover, even if though the lover is of the same sex as the friend.friend. What's irritating is that this problem never comes up if the love interest is of the opposite sex -- no one says that Ron can't be in love with Hermione if his best friend is Harry. And is there something that makes it impossible for a gay/bi man to have a male, platonic best friend? Because lots of ''straight'' characters have platonic best friends of the ''opposite'' sex, [[UnfortunateImplications so....what?]] AllGaysArePromiscuous?
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* This troper cannot be the only one who noticed a bit of one-sided Ho Yay between Ron and Viktor Krum. When Krum first showed up at Hogwarts, Ron gets jealous that Malfoy gets to speak to him before Ron can.

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* This troper cannot be the only one who noticed a bit of one-sided Ho Yay between Ron and Viktor Krum. When Krum first showed up at Hogwarts, Ron gets jealous that Malfoy gets to speak to him before Ron can.can.
* In the chapter The Unbreakable Vow in HBP, the Malay version states that Harry is surprised to hear Draco talking rudely to Professor Snape, who is usually 'dihormatinya malah disayangi', which literally translates to 'respected, even ''loved'' by him'. Ahahaha...
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*Sirius/James can be seen in the memory that Harry's dropped into in 5th book. Sirius looks like he could care less about the girls who are interested in him, and James, despite obviously being the ring leader of their group, goes out of his way to entertain Sirius. Sure, bullying poor Severus was a favorite past time of theirs, but had they really been like brothers, James could've just as easily said "you're always bored" or "put a sock in it" like a normal sibling, especially if he just wanted to lay there and play with the Snitch. And Sirius, while the reason James started the bullying in the first place, only personally gets involved when James gets a cut on his cheek. Had they just been friends, like they were with Remus and Peter, Sirius probably would've either helped James bully Snape earlier on or would've stayed out of it aside from laughing, like Peter did.

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*Sirius/James can be seen in the memory that Harry's dropped into in 5th book. Sirius looks like he could care less about the girls who are interested in him, and James, despite obviously being the ring leader of their group, goes out of his way to entertain Sirius. Sure, bullying poor Severus was a favorite past time of theirs, but had they really been like brothers, James could've just as easily said "you're always bored" or "put a sock in it" like a normal sibling, especially if he just wanted to lay there and play with the Snitch. And Sirius, while the reason James started the bullying in the first place, only personally gets involved when James gets a cut on his cheek. Had they just been friends, like they were with Remus and Peter, Sirius probably would've either helped James bully Snape earlier on or would've stayed out of it aside from laughing, like Peter did.did.
*This troper cannot be the only one who noticed a bit of one-sided Ho Yay between Ron and Viktor Krum. When Krum first showed up at Hogwarts, Ron gets jealous that Malfoy gets to speak to him before Ron can.

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