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* Poor Basch from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' is hated so much as TheKingslayer (who's also allegedly responsible for Dalmasca's occupation) that two of your other party members attack him physically on sight. Most people also believe he's been executed for his crime, as a result of a DeathFakedForYou.

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* ** Poor Basch from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' is hated so much as TheKingslayer (who's also allegedly responsible for Dalmasca's occupation) that two of your other party members attack him physically on sight. Most people also believe he's been executed for his crime, as a result of a DeathFakedForYou.
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* Poor Basch from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' is hated so much as TheKingslayer (who's also allegedly responsible for Dalmasca's occupation) that two of your other party members attack him physically on sight. Most people also believe he's been executed for his crime, as a result of a DeathFakedForYou.
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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'': [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome This happens inevitably with the faction you don't choose to side with]]. Granted, while the royal siblings don't hold too many hard feelings against Corrin once the war is over, the rest of the common populace isn't that forgiving:

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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'': [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome This happens inevitably with the faction you don't choose to side with]].with. Granted, while the royal siblings don't hold too many hard feelings against Corrin once the war is over, the rest of the common populace isn't that forgiving:
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* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsFromZero'': A more literal case than most, as part of the issue is the press downplaying the actions of the SSS. The police have a bad reputation in Crossbell because of {{Corrupt Politician}}s holding them back. Meanwhile, the Bracer's Guild is much more well regarded, which led to the creation of the SSS to compete with the Bracers. While Lloyd and the SSS are treated well by the people they talk to, the police and legislature are another matter.
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* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsFromZero'': A more literal case than most, as part of the issue is the press downplaying the protagonist's SSS. The police have a bad reputation in Crossbell because of CorruptPolitician types holding them back. Meanwhile, the Bracer's Guild are much more well regarded, which led to the creation of the SSS to compete with the Bracers. Generally speaking, Lloyd and the SSS are treated well by people they talk to not in the government, just OvershadowedByAwesome. But the police and legislature is another matter.

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* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsFromZero'': A more literal case than most, as part of the issue is the press downplaying the protagonist's actions of the SSS. The police have a bad reputation in Crossbell because of CorruptPolitician types {{Corrupt Politician}}s holding them back. Meanwhile, the Bracer's Guild are is much more well regarded, which led to the creation of the SSS to compete with the Bracers. Generally speaking, While Lloyd and the SSS are treated well by the people they talk to not in the government, just OvershadowedByAwesome. But to, the police and legislature is are another matter.
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** In ''Birthright'', Corrin is reviled in Nohr for their betrayal even as he sided with Hoshido to dethrone King Garon. [[spoiler:This has eased up somewhat come the end of the route, where King Leo and Camilla seek to help clear up any misconceptions about the Hoshidans.]]
** Corrin is hit with this the hardest in ''Conquest'', where [[spoiler:their decision to side with conquerors to protect their family gets him utter indignation in Hoshido, to the point that upon returning to Shirasagi, Hoshido's capital, you're greeted with the Hoshidan populace jeering you as a traitor. It's only the end of the route that Queen Hinoka makes abundantly clear that while she and Sakura forgive Corrin for their efforts to salvage the situation and will work to clear up any remaining hatred, the process won't be easy and it isn't safe for Corrin to visit Hoshido so hotly fresh after the war.]]
** Seemingly played straight in ''Revelation'' where ''both'' sides hate you for not picking one, but is [[SubvertedTrope slowly subverted]] as you painstakingly work to save both sides from the conflict. [[CrazyEnoughToWork It works; you unify both sides against the true enemy of Valla by the end of it.]]

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** *** In ''Birthright'', Corrin is reviled in Nohr for their betrayal even as he sided with Hoshido to dethrone King Garon. [[spoiler:This has eased up somewhat come the end of the route, where King Leo and Camilla seek to help clear up any misconceptions about the Hoshidans.]]
** *** Corrin is hit with this the hardest in ''Conquest'', where [[spoiler:their decision to side with conquerors to protect their family gets him utter indignation in Hoshido, to the point that upon returning to Shirasagi, Hoshido's capital, you're greeted with the Hoshidan populace jeering you as a traitor. It's only the end of the route that Queen Hinoka makes abundantly clear that while she and Sakura forgive Corrin for their efforts to salvage the situation and will work to clear up any remaining hatred, the process won't be easy and it isn't safe for Corrin to visit Hoshido so hotly fresh after the war.]]
** *** Seemingly played straight in ''Revelation'' where ''both'' sides hate you for not picking one, but is [[SubvertedTrope slowly subverted]] as you painstakingly work to save both sides from the conflict. [[CrazyEnoughToWork It works; you unify both sides against the true enemy of Valla by the end of it.]]

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* ''VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar'': During chapter 2, it's revealed that Sigurd's family have become implicated in an attack on the king, staining his reputation and causing him to be viewed as a ambitious warmongerer who would do anything for power. Of course, while these rumours are going around, Sigurd is in the process of fighting a ''very'' [[NotQuiteTheRightThing ill-advised war attempting to liberate a friend from being a political prisoner]], so the bad publicity isn't entirely without merit...

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''VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar'': During chapter 2, it's revealed that Sigurd's family have become implicated in an attack on the king, staining his reputation and causing him to be viewed as a ambitious warmongerer who would do anything for power. Of course, while these rumours are going around, Sigurd is in the process of fighting a ''very'' [[NotQuiteTheRightThing ill-advised war attempting to liberate a friend from being a political prisoner]], so the bad publicity isn't entirely without merit...merit...
** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'': [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome This happens inevitably with the faction you don't choose to side with]]. Granted, while the royal siblings don't hold too many hard feelings against Corrin once the war is over, the rest of the common populace isn't that forgiving:
** In ''Birthright'', Corrin is reviled in Nohr for their betrayal even as he sided with Hoshido to dethrone King Garon. [[spoiler:This has eased up somewhat come the end of the route, where King Leo and Camilla seek to help clear up any misconceptions about the Hoshidans.]]
** Corrin is hit with this the hardest in ''Conquest'', where [[spoiler:their decision to side with conquerors to protect their family gets him utter indignation in Hoshido, to the point that upon returning to Shirasagi, Hoshido's capital, you're greeted with the Hoshidan populace jeering you as a traitor. It's only the end of the route that Queen Hinoka makes abundantly clear that while she and Sakura forgive Corrin for their efforts to salvage the situation and will work to clear up any remaining hatred, the process won't be easy and it isn't safe for Corrin to visit Hoshido so hotly fresh after the war.]]
** Seemingly played straight in ''Revelation'' where ''both'' sides hate you for not picking one, but is [[SubvertedTrope slowly subverted]] as you painstakingly work to save both sides from the conflict. [[CrazyEnoughToWork It works; you unify both sides against the true enemy of Valla by the end of it.]]
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* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfHeroesTrailsFromZero'': A more literal case than most, as part of the issue is the press downplaying the protagonist's SSS. The police have a bad reputation in Crossbell because of CorruptPolitician types holding them back. Meanwhile, the Bracer's Guild are much more well regarded, which led to the creation of the SSS to compete with the Bracers. Generally speaking, Lloyd and the SSS are treated well by people they talk to not in the government, just OvershadowedByAwesome. But the police and legislature is another matter.

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* In the first ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquer'' at least, GDI. Nod's Greg Burdett, a respected journalist, would help them fabricate news stories about GDI slaughtering villages and burning down orphanages. Nod's mainline troops would also regularly partake in a little bit of the random slaughter, usually so they could make it look like GDI did it. This was also the entire point of the last couple of missions of Nod's campaign, in which you were [[spoiler: working to hijack the GDI Ion Cannon to destroy a landmark (your choice), framing GDI for the attack]].
** In the GDI campaign, this is played with. It ''looks'' like Nod's media campaign has brought UNGDI to the brink of being disavowed by the Security Council, with funding being suspended while investigations are made... and then, when Nod launches a major offensive, it is revealed that it was a trick by the GDI leadership, taking advantage of Nod's media edge to bait the Brotherhood into striking before properly building up its strength. You still have bad publicity, but it wasn't ''so'' bad as it looked to you or Kane.

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* In the first ''VideoGame/CommandAndConquer'' at least, GDI. Nod's Greg Burdett, a respected journalist, would help them fabricate news stories about GDI slaughtering villages and burning down orphanages. Nod's mainline troops would also regularly partake in a little bit of the random slaughter, usually so they could make it look like GDI did it. This was also the entire point of the last couple of missions of Nod's campaign, in which you were [[spoiler: working to hijack the GDI Ion Cannon to destroy a landmark (your choice), framing GDI for the attack]].
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attack]]. Meanwhile, in the GDI campaign, this is played with. It ''looks'' like Nod's media campaign has brought UNGDI to the brink of being disavowed by the Security Council, with funding being suspended while investigations are made... and then, when Nod launches a major offensive, it is revealed that it was a trick by the GDI leadership, taking advantage of Nod's media edge to bait the Brotherhood into striking before properly building up its strength. You still have bad publicity, but it wasn't ''so'' bad as it looked to you or Kane.



*** The DLC ''Trespasser'' takes place two years after the BigBad was defeated and there has been an increasing backlash against the Inquisition (and the Inquisitor themselves), which many believe is power-hungry and on the verge of invading nearby countries. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that it's revealed the organization had been infiltrated by various spies and was falling to corruption after all, although this wasn't known to its leaders or critics at the time.
*** Dalish elves believe Fen'Harel is the god of deception who was responsible for locking away their other gods and dooming their civilization. In truth, Fen'Harel was leading a rebellion against the other gods, who had become slave-owning tyrants, and ended up locking them away to keep them from destroying the world. It is true, however, that he was responsible for their empire crumbling.

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*** The DLC ''Trespasser'' takes place two years after the BigBad was defeated and there has been an increasing backlash against the Inquisition (and the Inquisitor themselves), which many believe is power-hungry and on the verge of invading nearby countries. [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] in that it's revealed the organization had been infiltrated by various spies and was falling to corruption after all, although this wasn't known to its leaders or critics at the time.
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time. Additionally, Dalish elves believe Fen'Harel is the god of deception who was responsible for locking away their other gods and dooming their civilization. In truth, Fen'Harel was leading a rebellion against the other gods, who had become slave-owning tyrants, and ended up locking them away to keep them from destroying the world. It is true, however, that he was responsible for their empire crumbling.



* Entirely possible in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas''. Because your karma (how good or evil you are) is factored separately from your reputation (how much people like you) it's very, very possible to end the game with the highest karma possible, and ''every single faction hating your guts.''
** Although, because of the game, it's actually very hard to end with high karma and everybody hating you, and you must actively peruse this as a goal because you must do a lot to up your karma, and most karma upping quests are related with one faction are another.
*** If somebody is going through the trouble to be hated by everybody but still be a picture of justice overall, that might be more suspicious than anything else, that or every single person around them is just insane.

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* Entirely possible in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas''. Because your karma (how good or evil you are) is factored separately from your reputation (how much people like you) it's very, very possible to end the game with the highest karma possible, and ''every single faction hating your guts.''
** Although, because of the game, it's actually very hard to end with high karma and everybody hating you, and you must actively peruse this as a goal because you must do a lot to up your karma, and most karma upping quests are related with one faction are another.
*** If somebody is going through the trouble to be hated by everybody but still be a picture of justice overall, that might be more suspicious than anything else, that or every single person around them is just insane.
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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', Ragna the Bloodege is very much hated by the world, to the point where half of the cast are trying to kill him. This is justified though because, JerkWithAHeartOfGold he may be, he is also a wanted terrorist who has gone around destroying government facilities and cutting down any soldiers that stand in his way. There's also the little fact that he has a legendary ArtifactOfDoom that everybody and their mother wants to take from him.
** [[HighlyVisibleNinja Bang Shishigami]] is another example. He tries very hard to be a Shonen action hero and is motivated purely to restore his fallen homeland. He even shows mercy to his enemies. However, because of his LargeHam and HotBlooded attitude, he's mostly seen as a crazy old man by most of the cast. Although, there are a few people who do respect him.

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* In ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'':
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Ragna the Bloodege is very much hated by the world, to the point where half of the cast are trying to kill him. This is justified though because, JerkWithAHeartOfGold he may be, he is also a wanted terrorist who has gone around destroying government facilities and cutting down any soldiers that stand in his way. There's also the little fact that he has a legendary ArtifactOfDoom that everybody and their mother wants to take from him.
** [[HighlyVisibleNinja Bang Shishigami]] is another example. He tries very hard to be a Shonen action hero and is motivated purely to restore his fallen homeland. He even shows mercy to his enemies. However, because of his LargeHam and HotBlooded attitude, he's mostly seen as a crazy old man by most of the cast. Although, there are a few people who do respect him.



** And comes ''VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', that lets you see the events between the two previous games from Handsome Jack's perspective. There you learn important things: [[spoiler: Jack wasn't the worst boss Hyperion ever knew, far from that; his first motives were rather understandable, to open a Vault for riches and to save all the inhabitants on Elpis from certain death by KillSat. While he had already committed various highly questionable actions by that point (including turning his daughter into his personal supercomputer) it wasn't until Moxxi, Roland and Lilith attempted to assassinate him and his Vault Hunters that he truly became the lunatic from the second game and that they were pretty much responsible for the events of ''2''.]]

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** And comes Come ''VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', that lets you see the events between the two previous games from Handsome Jack's perspective. There you learn important things: [[spoiler: Jack wasn't the worst boss Hyperion ever knew, far from that; his first motives were rather understandable, to open a Vault for riches and to save all the inhabitants on Elpis from certain death by KillSat. While he had already committed various highly questionable actions by that point (including turning his daughter into his personal supercomputer) it wasn't until Moxxi, Roland and Lilith attempted to assassinate him and his Vault Hunters that he truly became the lunatic from the second game and that they were pretty much responsible for the events of ''2''.]]

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