History HeelFaceRevolvingDoor / LiveActionTV

10th May '17 7:59:09 PM Linda58
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** He's topped however by Sark, who describes himself as having "flexible loyalties" and in the finale outright states he doesn't care who's side he's on, as long as its the winning side.
10th May '17 7:55:25 PM Linda58
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** As it turns out [[spoiler:the good guy's she's taking volkoff off from the inside]]

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** As it turns out [[spoiler:the good guy's side, she's taking volkoff off Volkoff down from the inside]]



** [[spoiler: Regina]] enters the revolving door in Season 2, desperately trying anything to win back [[spoiler: her surrogate son]]. Howewer, as of the Season 4 finale, she is undeniably a hero now.

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** [[spoiler: Regina]] enters the revolving door in Season 2, desperately trying anything to win back [[spoiler: her surrogate son]].son]] only to constantly be met with obstacles and [[ReformedButRejected scorn]]. In the Season 2 finale, she firmly commits to the Heroes side, but spends a good portion of Season 3 as the TokenEvilTeammate and TheFriendNobodyLikes. Howewer, as of the Season 4 finale, she is undeniably a hero now.
18th Mar '17 3:52:04 AM Liamdurf
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** In Season 9, Gadreel's allegiance is all over the place. He starts out as a guardian in Heaven, then he lets Lucifer inside the Garden of Eden and is punished for his crime. After his unexpected release he tries to atone by [[spoiler:helping Dean save Sam]], only to be convinced by the conniving Metatron to join his new army. He joins the Winchesters again, but [[spoiler:the vengeful Dean is [[HeelFaceDoorSlam having none of it]]. Gadreel eventually helps Castiel infiltrate Heaven but fails and commits suicide in a final act of atonement.]]

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** In Season 9, Gadreel's allegiance is all over the place. He starts out as a guardian in Heaven, then he lets Lucifer inside the Garden of Eden and is punished for his crime. After his unexpected release he tries to atone by [[spoiler:helping Dean save Sam]], only to be convinced by the conniving Metatron to join his new army. He joins the Winchesters again, but [[spoiler:the vengeful Dean is [[HeelFaceDoorSlam having none of it]]. Gadreel eventually helps Castiel infiltrate Heaven but fails and commits suicide suicide, by creating an explosion that will break open the walls to Castiel's prison cell, in a final act of atonement.]]
1st Jan '17 6:45:45 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/AmericanGothic'': [[FemmeFatale Selena Coombs]] certainly seems to be riding one of these, or perhaps a seesaw. Aside from the moments when we see the weakening of her evil resolve and the good heart shining through (particularly the episode "Potato Boy"), the last several episodes of the series involve her repeatedly switching sides. It's hard to tell exactly who she's lying to at any given moment--Buck, Dr. Peele, or Caleb.

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* ''Series/AmericanGothic'': ''Series/AmericanGothic1995'': [[FemmeFatale Selena Coombs]] certainly seems to be riding one of these, or perhaps a seesaw. Aside from the moments when we see the weakening of her evil resolve and the good heart shining through (particularly the episode "Potato Boy"), the last several episodes of the series involve her repeatedly switching sides. It's hard to tell exactly who she's lying to at any given moment--Buck, Dr. Peele, or Caleb.
4th Jun '16 2:26:22 AM RobTan
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** The two main villains of the series- Gul Dukat and Kai Winn both started out as smug, power-hungry backstabbers, and then went through a series of character arcs which gradually made them more sympathetic until they were AntiVillains and almost good guys in their own right, and then both immediately turned 180 and became even more evil and vile than before, ending up as devil-worshipping cultists. Winn eventually [[spoiler:experienced RedemptionEqualsDeath]], but Dukat [[spoiler:became TheAntichrist]]. One of the writers said that, expecially in Dukat's case, this was intended to make them better villains, showing that they had the capacity to be good, decent people- they just consciously chose not to be.

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** The two main villains of the series- Gul Dukat and Kai Winn both started out as smug, power-hungry backstabbers, and then went through a series of character arcs which gradually made them more sympathetic until they were AntiVillains and almost good guys in their own right, and then both immediately turned 180 and became even more evil and vile than before, ending up as devil-worshipping cultists. Winn eventually [[spoiler:experienced RedemptionEqualsDeath]], but Dukat [[spoiler:became TheAntichrist]]. One of the writers said that, expecially especially in Dukat's case, this was intended to make them better villains, showing that they had the capacity to be good, decent people- they just consciously chose not to be.
10th May '16 8:57:31 PM leelea
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** Nathan Petrelli also fits this trope, as he is also constantly shifting sides. In Volume 4, [[spoiler:he went from being the BigBad before shifting back to the good side again.]] On one hand, Nathan cares deeply about his family and does his best to protect them, particularly his brother Peter and daughter Claire, but his methods and ambitions often alienate them, as Nathan [[WellIntentionedExtremist believes he is doing what's "best" in his view]] ... until he sees the light, becomes the TheAtoner once again, and does another HeelFaceTurn (frequently prompted by Peter and/or Claire).

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** Nathan Petrelli also fits this trope, as he is also constantly shifting sides. In Volume 4, [[spoiler:he went from being the BigBad before shifting back to the good side again.]] On one hand, Nathan cares deeply about his family and does his best to protect them, particularly his brother Peter and daughter Claire, but his methods and ambitions often alienate them, as Nathan [[WellIntentionedExtremist believes he is doing what's "best" in his view]] ...ambitions]] often alienate them ... until he sees the light, becomes the TheAtoner once again, and does another HeelFaceTurn (frequently prompted by Peter and/or Claire).
10th May '16 8:54:48 PM leelea
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** HRG fits this trope as well. He is constantly shifting, so we are never entirely sure which side he is on save his own. We know his agenda is to protect his family, particularly Claire, which would put him on the good guys' side, but the methods he uses have alienated his family. HRG also finds himself unable to satisfy himself with settled, stable life, stating, "There are only so many crossword puzzles I can do," which provides another motivation.

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** HRG fits this trope as well. He is constantly shifting, so we are never entirely sure which side he is on save his own. We know his agenda is to protect his family, particularly Claire, which would put him on the good guys' side, but the methods he uses have alienated his family. HRG also finds himself unable to satisfy himself with a settled, stable life, stating, "There are only so many crossword puzzles I can do," which provides another motivation.
10th May '16 8:39:55 PM leelea
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** HRG fits this trope as well. He is constantly shifting, so we are never entirely sure which side he is on save his own. We know his agenda is to protect his family, particularly Claire, which would put him on the good guys' side, but the methods he uses have alienated his family.
** Nathan Petrelli also fits this trope, even better than HRG. In Volume 4 [[spoiler:He went from BigBad to [[strike: good guy]] slightly less of a bastard guy.]]

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** HRG fits this trope as well. He is constantly shifting, so we are never entirely sure which side he is on save his own. We know his agenda is to protect his family, particularly Claire, which would put him on the good guys' side, but the methods he uses have alienated his family.
family. HRG also finds himself unable to satisfy himself with settled, stable life, stating, "There are only so many crossword puzzles I can do," which provides another motivation.
** Nathan Petrelli also fits this trope, even better than HRG. as he is also constantly shifting sides. In Volume 4 [[spoiler:He 4, [[spoiler:he went from being the BigBad before shifting back to [[strike: the good guy]] slightly less of side again.]] On one hand, Nathan cares deeply about his family and does his best to protect them, particularly his brother Peter and daughter Claire, but his methods and ambitions often alienate them, as Nathan [[WellIntentionedExtremist believes he is doing what's "best" in his view]] ... until he sees the light, becomes the TheAtoner once again, and does another HeelFaceTurn (frequently prompted by Peter and/or Claire).
** Angela Petrelli. She loves her family, sure, but she's got
a bastard guy.]]good poker face. Like Nathan and HRG, she can also be a WellIntentionedExtremist.
16th Mar '16 3:06:22 PM RobTan
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** The two main villains of the series- Gul Dukat and Kai Winn both started out as smug, power-hungry backstabbers, and then went through a series of character arcs which gradually made them more sympathetic until they were AntiVillains and almost good guys in their own right, and then both immediately turned 180 and became even more evil and vile than before, ending up as devil-worshipping cultists. Winn eventually [[spoiler:experienced RedemptionEqualsDeath]], but Dukat [spoiler:became TheAntichrist]]. One of the writers said that, expecially in Dukat's case, this was intended to make them better villains, showing that they had the capacity to be good, decent people- they just consciously chose not to be.

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** The two main villains of the series- Gul Dukat and Kai Winn both started out as smug, power-hungry backstabbers, and then went through a series of character arcs which gradually made them more sympathetic until they were AntiVillains and almost good guys in their own right, and then both immediately turned 180 and became even more evil and vile than before, ending up as devil-worshipping cultists. Winn eventually [[spoiler:experienced RedemptionEqualsDeath]], but Dukat [spoiler:became [[spoiler:became TheAntichrist]]. One of the writers said that, expecially in Dukat's case, this was intended to make them better villains, showing that they had the capacity to be good, decent people- they just consciously chose not to be.
16th Mar '16 10:12:56 AM RobTan
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** The two main villains of the series- Gul Dukat and Kai Winn both started out as smug, power-hungry backstabbers, and then went through a series of character arcs which gradually made them more sympathetic until they were AntiVillains and almost good guys in their own right, and then both immediately turned 180 and became even more evil and vile than before, ending up as devil-worshipping cultists. Winn eventually [[spoiler:experienced RedemptionEqualsDeath]], but Dukat [spoiler:became TheAntichrist]]. One of the writers said that, expecially in Dukat's case, this was intended to make them better villains, showing that they had the capacity to be good, decent people- they just consciously chose not to be.
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