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Among the Numbers Club members, Cathy's dueling skills are second only to Yuma. She sure picked a lousy time to sit out.

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Among the Numbers Club members, Cathy's dueling skills are second only to Yuma. She sure picked a lousy time to sit out.out.

[[WMG: What did IV do to Rio?]]
Since Rio was DeadAllAlong and in fact a Barian Empress in disguise, what did IV actually do to her? Surely fire alone couldn't do that to a Barian.
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* Aside from it being a series about the duels, why do they need to? Is it to prove to the Numbers that they're worth of obtaining it? Or is it to weaken the holder so they can take it from them?

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* Aside from it being a series about the duels, why do they need to? Is it to prove to the Numbers that they're worth of obtaining it? Or is it to weaken the holder so they can take it from them?them?
** All magic is governed by duels. Sure, numbers can be stolen by pickpocketing, but that's difficult to do.

[[WMG: During the Barian Assimilation Arc, TheCavalry shows up to confront the Barians, while Yuma and Kite are out of action, but why is Bronk dueling but Cathy isn't?]]
Among the Numbers Club members, Cathy's dueling skills are second only to Yuma. She sure picked a lousy time to sit out.
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* What's the point of having the Gazers? No, I get it. You need them to see them duels, but why include them in the anime? Aside from the animation department getting paid to do the "suit up" montage, there just seems to be no point and it just makes it more confusing for the audience. What was wrong with just using holograms? I mean unless they had an episode where Yuma loses his gazer and just imagines it all happening in his head in order to focus, or to reveal that the Numbers can be seen without them, I don't see a point to them.

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* What's the point of having the Gazers? No, I get it. You need them to see them duels, but why include them in the anime? Aside from the animation department getting paid to do the "suit up" montage, there just seems to be no point and it just makes it more confusing for the audience. What was wrong with just using holograms? I mean unless they had an episode where Yuma loses his gazer and just imagines it all happening in his head in order to focus, or to reveal that the Numbers can be seen without them, I don't see a point to them.them.

[[WMG: Why the hell do they need to duel in order to obtain the Numbers?]]
* Aside from it being a series about the duels, why do they need to? Is it to prove to the Numbers that they're worth of obtaining it? Or is it to weaken the holder so they can take it from them?
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[[WMG: Duel Gazers/D-Gazers: What's the point?]]

* What's the point of having the Gazers? No, I get it. You need them to see them duels, but why include them in the anime? Aside from the animation department getting paid to do the "suit up" montage, there just seems to be no point and it just makes it more confusing for the audience. What was wrong with just using holograms? I mean unless they had an episode where Yuma loses his gazer and just imagines it all happening in his head in order to focus, or to reveal that the Numbers can be seen without them, I don't see a point to them.

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* Also, I don't remember if this actually happened, but according to the wiki, apparently the anime lore of 104 says that after milling the card, you have to shuffle the opponent's Deck - so it's possible the effect can't be activated if the opponent only has one card left, because after the mill there would be nothing to shuffle? I don't know if that's how it would work but if not, yeah, check the above answer

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* Also, I don't remember if this actually happened, but according to the wiki, apparently the anime lore of 104 says that after milling the card, you have to shuffle the opponent's Deck - so it's possible the effect can't be activated if the opponent only has one card left, because after the mill there would be nothing to shuffle? I don't know if that's how it would work but if not, not,
yeah, check the above answeranswer

[[WMG: Yuma's plan in episode 14]]

* What did Yuma think would happen? Yuma's plan was to use Mirror Mail to try to increase Utopia's attack points and destroy Galaxy-Eyes (who was super powered up), but all Kite would need to do is banish Galaxy-Eyes and Utopia, bring them back, and true while their attack points would return to normal, that would just make Kite tear Yuma apart piece by painful piece. Even if Kite's didn't get Photon Cerebrus, he still could've won.
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* Too busy being a troll. Team Unicorn got shamed into dueling normally by Yusuke with a WorthyOpponent speech, he was screwing with their heads. Basically the same thing here but in reverse. Vector was too busy fucking with Yuma's head to consider the easiest path to victory, and too confident that Yuma would have no possible way of winning (winning a duel with the last card in your deck after the rest has been milled is Yami / Yugi level PlotArmor)

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* Too busy being a troll. Team Unicorn got shamed into dueling normally by Yusuke with a WorthyOpponent speech, he was screwing with their heads. Basically the same thing here but in reverse. Vector was too busy fucking with Yuma's head to consider the easiest path to victory, and too confident that Yuma would have no possible way of winning (winning a duel with the last card in your deck after the rest has been milled is Yami / Yugi level PlotArmor)PlotArmor)

*Also, I don't remember if this actually happened, but according to the wiki, apparently the anime lore of 104 says that after milling the card, you have to shuffle the opponent's Deck - so it's possible the effect can't be activated if the opponent only has one card left, because after the mill there would be nothing to shuffle? I don't know if that's how it would work but if not, yeah, check the above answer

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In Episode 98, Vector has Yuma on the ropes, as he's left with only 100 life points and 1 card in his whole deck. Now, Number 104: Masquerade Magician - Shining's effect allows Vector to send that one card in Yuma's deck to the graveyard, making it so that when Yuma's turn comes, he will immediately lose due to nto being able to draw any cards. So, why the hell does he choose to Rank-up his Number instead, allowing Yuma to use the next turn to win? I could kinda sorta accept it when it happened in 5D's with Team Unicorn because of the whole "having a face-to-face, direct duel" BS, but... Vector? Is he simply victim of a bad case of PlotInducedStupidity?

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In Episode 98, Vector has Yuma on the ropes, as he's left with only 100 life points and 1 card in his whole deck. Now, Number 104: Masquerade Magician - Shining's effect allows Vector to send that one card in Yuma's deck to the graveyard, making it so that when Yuma's turn comes, he will immediately lose due to nto being able unable to draw any cards. So, why the hell does he choose to Rank-up his Number instead, allowing Yuma to use the next turn to win? I could kinda sorta accept it when it happened in 5D's with Team Unicorn because of the whole "having a face-to-face, direct duel" BS, but... Vector? Is he simply victim of a bad case of PlotInducedStupidity?PlotInducedStupidity?

* Too busy being a troll. Team Unicorn got shamed into dueling normally by Yusuke with a WorthyOpponent speech, he was screwing with their heads. Basically the same thing here but in reverse. Vector was too busy fucking with Yuma's head to consider the easiest path to victory, and too confident that Yuma would have no possible way of winning (winning a duel with the last card in your deck after the rest has been milled is Yami / Yugi level PlotArmor)
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* [[spoiler: Nothing really. Don 1000 is the personification of the chaos Astral World rejected, so being pure chaos, his only goal should be eliminating order.]]

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* [[spoiler: *[[spoiler: Nothing really. Don 1000 is the personification of the chaos Astral World rejected, so being pure chaos, his only goal should be eliminating order.]]
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* [[spoiler: Nothing really. Don 1000 is the personification of the chaos Astral World rejected, so being pure chaos, his only goal should be eliminating order.]]

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* [[spoiler: *[[spoiler: Nothing really. Don 1000 is the personification of the chaos Astral World rejected, so being pure chaos, his only goal should be eliminating order.]]
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* [[spoiler: Nothing really. Don 1000 is the personification of the chaos Astral World rejected, so being pure chaos, his only goal should be eliminating order.]]

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* [[spoiler: *[[spoiler: Nothing really. Don 1000 is the personification of the chaos Astral World rejected, so being pure chaos, his only goal should be eliminating order.]]

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** The Barian are not involved in the world-merging situation. They are just hunting Numbers for the Numeron Code. [[spoiler: None of them that they only needed 46, 62 and 107 for that.]]




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*[[spoiler: Nothing really. Don 1000 is the personification of the chaos Astral World rejected, so being pure chaos, his only goal should be eliminating order.]]
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In Episode 98, Vector has Yuma on the ropes, as he's left with only 100 life points and 1 card in his whole deck. Now, Number 107: Masquerade Magician - Shining's effect allows Vector to send that one card in Yuma's deck to the graveyard, making it so that when Yuma's turn comes, he will immediately lose due to nto being able to draw any cards. So, why the hell does he choose to Rank-up his Number instead, allowing Yuma to use the next turn to win? I could kinda sorta accept it when it happened in 5D's with Team Unicorn because of the whole "having a face-to-face, direct duel" BS, but... Vector? Is he simply victim of a bad case of PlotInducedStupidity?

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In Episode 98, Vector has Yuma on the ropes, as he's left with only 100 life points and 1 card in his whole deck. Now, Number 107: 104: Masquerade Magician - Shining's effect allows Vector to send that one card in Yuma's deck to the graveyard, making it so that when Yuma's turn comes, he will immediately lose due to nto being able to draw any cards. So, why the hell does he choose to Rank-up his Number instead, allowing Yuma to use the next turn to win? I could kinda sorta accept it when it happened in 5D's with Team Unicorn because of the whole "having a face-to-face, direct duel" BS, but... Vector? Is he simply victim of a bad case of PlotInducedStupidity?
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[[WMG: Vector is an idiot]]

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[[WMG: Vector is an idiot]]
Vector, [[WhyDontYaJustShootHim Why Don't Ya Just Finish Him?]]]]
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[[spoiler:So Don Thousand has fused the Barian World with Earth and has the ability to rewrite reality at will...So why doesn't he just erase Yuma, destroy Astral, and make Nasch become one with him? Why duel these two when he can make what he wants happen. Furthermore, once he destroys the Astral World, what are his plans afterwards?]]

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[[spoiler:So Don Thousand has fused the Barian World with Earth and has the ability to rewrite reality at will...So why doesn't he just erase Yuma, destroy Astral, and make Nasch become one with him? Why duel these two when he can make what he wants happen. Furthermore, once he destroys the Astral World, what are his plans afterwards?]]afterwards?]]

[[WMG: Vector is an idiot]]

In Episode 98, Vector has Yuma on the ropes, as he's left with only 100 life points and 1 card in his whole deck. Now, Number 107: Masquerade Magician - Shining's effect allows Vector to send that one card in Yuma's deck to the graveyard, making it so that when Yuma's turn comes, he will immediately lose due to nto being able to draw any cards. So, why the hell does he choose to Rank-up his Number instead, allowing Yuma to use the next turn to win? I could kinda sorta accept it when it happened in 5D's with Team Unicorn because of the whole "having a face-to-face, direct duel" BS, but... Vector? Is he simply victim of a bad case of PlotInducedStupidity?
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* This is speculation on my part, but Kiraku was more well-known in human history than the other Emperor. It might have been insurance on Thousand's part to prevent Girag from figuring it out too quickly.

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* This is speculation on my part, but Kiraku was more well-known in human history than the other Emperor. It might have been insurance on Thousand's part to prevent Girag from figuring it out too quickly.quickly.

[[WMG: Don Thousand's Goals]]

[[spoiler:So Don Thousand has fused the Barian World with Earth and has the ability to rewrite reality at will...So why doesn't he just erase Yuma, destroy Astral, and make Nasch become one with him? Why duel these two when he can make what he wants happen. Furthermore, once he destroys the Astral World, what are his plans afterwards?]]
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Ok so it seems all the Barian emperors had the same names as humans as they do as Barians... except Girag who was named Kiraku Souhachi, what the hell is up with that?! One would assume they would all have completely different names from their human ones because you know they are now alternate dimensional beings! It wouldn't be that bad if all of them kept their human names, but having one who was given a new name by Don Thousand is strange to say the least.

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Ok so it seems all the Barian emperors had the same names as humans as they do as Barians... except Girag who was named Kiraku Souhachi, what the hell is up with that?! One would assume they would all have completely different names from their human ones because you know they are now alternate dimensional beings! It wouldn't be that bad if all of them kept their human names, but having one who was given a new name by Don Thousand is strange to say the least.least.
* This is speculation on my part, but Kiraku was more well-known in human history than the other Emperor. It might have been insurance on Thousand's part to prevent Girag from figuring it out too quickly.
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Ok so it seems all the barian emperors had the same names as humans as they do as barians... except Girag who was named Kiraku Souichi, what the hell is up with that?!

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Ok so it seems all the barian Barian emperors had the same names as humans as they do as barians... Barians... except Girag who was named Kiraku Souichi, Souhachi, what the hell is up with that?!that?! One would assume they would all have completely different names from their human ones because you know they are now alternate dimensional beings! It wouldn't be that bad if all of them kept their human names, but having one who was given a new name by Don Thousand is strange to say the least.

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* So..... forcibly coverting the people of the Earth into energy beings and having them live in a world ruled by the ones who caused this to happen is a good thing? I mean the Barians don't seem like terrible rulers.(Not that we've seen them rule over any subjects) But still they were never given a choice. I understand this is happening due to Don Thousand, but instead of finding the problem and the solution they're hunting down Number holders.
** [[spoiler: Nasch's people still revere him even as part of Barian World and we haven't seen any sign that people are unsatisfied with their life in Barian's World, unlike Astral World. The problem was always that Astral and Barian World's goals have always been each others destruction ever since Astral World expelled Barian World. To them the only solution is the annihilation of the other and there was no other solution to the problem. Plus one of the people have ever had a choice when it come to becoming one with Barian World. They simply died and went there. The big difference now is that Barian World itself is doing it.]]

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* So..... forcibly coverting converting the people of the Earth into energy beings and having them live in a world ruled by the ones who caused this to happen is a good thing? I mean the Barians don't seem like terrible rulers.(Not that we've seen them rule over any subjects) But still they were never given a choice. I understand this is happening due to Don Thousand, but instead of finding the problem and the solution they're hunting down Number holders.
** [[spoiler: Nasch's people still revere him even as part of Barian World and we haven't seen any sign that people are unsatisfied with their life in Barian's World, unlike Astral World. The problem was always that Astral and Barian World's goals have always been each others destruction ever since Astral World expelled Barian World. To them the only solution is the annihilation of the other and there was no other solution to the problem. Plus one of the people have ever had a choice when it come to becoming one with Barian World. They simply died and went there. The big difference now is that Barian World itself is doing it.]]]]

[[WMG: Girag's name]]

Ok so it seems all the barian emperors had the same names as humans as they do as barians... except Girag who was named Kiraku Souichi, what the hell is up with that?!

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** It's later clarified that Numbers seem to merge with the souls of those they possess.



** It's actually quite possible he was there to witness the monster's destruction. He's not seen when Leviathan Dragon is first summoned, but given that they were released at the same time, it seems logical that Astral was there.



* This might actually be simulated by the AR. Note that while the blasting always happens, damage is shown quite clearly.



* Let's look at this and cover it.
** When he used it against Kite, it isn't even clear that he's creating a new card to Kite and Kite's already struggling to deal with the fact that Yuma has fused with Astral.
** Against III, they wanted him to win (Yuma and III) to get back to the real world and prevent their descent to the Barian World.
** Against Tron, they were witnessed by a massive group of people who woudn't believe that they fused, let alone created new cards. And even if Tron did try to call him out, it wouldn't have helped seeing as both Faker and Heartland were in charge over the duel, and wanted him to lose.
** Less justification against the Barian-possessed Faker, except possibly for the fact that Faker would have called the Duel off anyway had he not been possessed.
** Against Alito, the guy didn't mind given that he ''wanted'' to fight Yuma at their full strength.
** The uses of ZEXAL II are covered pretty clearly on YMMV, so we don't need to go into detail.
** Against Heartland, it was very neccessary due to the unfair rigging Heartland had done before the duel.
*** And finally, it's less likely that this will be called-out now that the Barians can do so too, with the Barian's Chaos Draw.




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**** Probably not, given that the Barians do the same thing.
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* So..... forcibly coverting the people of the Earth into energy beings and having them live in a world ruled by the ones who caused this to happen is a good thing? I mean the Barians don't seem like terrible rulers.(Not that we've seen them rule over any subjects) But still they were never given a choice. I understand this is happening due to Don Thousand, but instead of finding the problem and the solution they're hunting down Number holders.

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* So..... forcibly coverting the people of the Earth into energy beings and having them live in a world ruled by the ones who caused this to happen is a good thing? I mean the Barians don't seem like terrible rulers.(Not that we've seen them rule over any subjects) But still they were never given a choice. I understand this is happening due to Don Thousand, but instead of finding the problem and the solution they're hunting down Number holders.holders.
** [[spoiler: Nasch's people still revere him even as part of Barian World and we haven't seen any sign that people are unsatisfied with their life in Barian's World, unlike Astral World. The problem was always that Astral and Barian World's goals have always been each others destruction ever since Astral World expelled Barian World. To them the only solution is the annihilation of the other and there was no other solution to the problem. Plus one of the people have ever had a choice when it come to becoming one with Barian World. They simply died and went there. The big difference now is that Barian World itself is doing it.]]
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* They aren't disappearing. They become red/pink sparkles of light and head into the sky, which is the same thing that happened to [[spoiler:Nasch's people. So they are going to live on as part of Barian's World, just as Nasch's people do]]. Also, even with these actions they aren't going to lose their AntiVillain status because most of them are sympathetic and some people are rooting for them even now. Except Vector for [[CardCarryingVillain obvious]] [[TokenEvilTeammate reasons]].

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* They aren't disappearing. They become red/pink sparkles of light and head into the sky, which is the same thing that happened to [[spoiler:Nasch's people. So they are going to live on as part of Barian's World, just as Nasch's people do]]. Also, even with these actions they aren't going to lose their AntiVillain status because most of them are sympathetic and some people are rooting for them even now. Except Vector for [[CardCarryingVillain obvious]] [[TokenEvilTeammate reasons]].reasons]].
* So..... forcibly coverting the people of the Earth into energy beings and having them live in a world ruled by the ones who caused this to happen is a good thing? I mean the Barians don't seem like terrible rulers.(Not that we've seen them rule over any subjects) But still they were never given a choice. I understand this is happening due to Don Thousand, but instead of finding the problem and the solution they're hunting down Number holders.
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* They aren't disappearing. They become red/pink sparkles of light and head into the sky, which is the same thing that happened to Nasch's people. So they are going to live on as part of Barian's World, just as Nasch's people do. Also, even with these actions they aren't going to lose their AntiVillain status because most of them are sympathetic and some people are rooting for them even now. Except Vector for [[CardCarryingVillain obvious]] [[TokenEvilTeammate reasons]].

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* They aren't disappearing. They become red/pink sparkles of light and head into the sky, which is the same thing that happened to Nasch's [[spoiler:Nasch's people. So they are going to live on as part of Barian's World, just as Nasch's people do.do]]. Also, even with these actions they aren't going to lose their AntiVillain status because most of them are sympathetic and some people are rooting for them even now. Except Vector for [[CardCarryingVillain obvious]] [[TokenEvilTeammate reasons]].
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Okay so with the return of [[spoiler:Nasch (aka Barian Shark).]] I understand that the Barians are now going to take an active role in protecting their world from being destroyed. But a few things strike me as odd. First how does Earth factor into this? I mean Don Thousand wanted to merge the Barian world and Earth so that he could gain the energy to destroy the Astral world but the Emperors don't exactly know of his involvement yet. (Save for Vector of course) So what is their aim in all this? Do they have some way to utilize that same energy? Second, I know that they wish to save their world but they pretty much lose any sort of AntiVillain status they had when they begin their assault on Earth. It's pretty much implied that everyone that disappears as this goes on is dead. So what? Are they sacrificing Earth to finally win the war?

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Okay so with the return of [[spoiler:Nasch (aka Barian Shark).]] I understand that the Barians are now going to take an active role in protecting their world from being destroyed. But a few things strike me as odd. First how does Earth factor into this? I mean Don Thousand wanted to merge the Barian world and Earth so that he could gain the energy to destroy the Astral world but the Emperors don't exactly know of his involvement yet. (Save for Vector of course) So what is their aim in all this? Do they have some way to utilize that same energy? Second, I know that they wish to save their world but they pretty much lose any sort of AntiVillain status they had when they begin their assault on Earth. It's pretty much implied that everyone that disappears as this goes on is dead. So what? Are they sacrificing Earth to finally win the war?war?
* They aren't disappearing. They become red/pink sparkles of light and head into the sky, which is the same thing that happened to Nasch's people. So they are going to live on as part of Barian's World, just as Nasch's people do. Also, even with these actions they aren't going to lose their AntiVillain status because most of them are sympathetic and some people are rooting for them even now. Except Vector for [[CardCarryingVillain obvious]] [[TokenEvilTeammate reasons]].
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** It's possible this is due to the method used, since every time someone lost their soul in DM, it was via magical means like the Orichalcos, whereas Kaito's Photon Hand is some kind of advanced technology (probably from the Barian World). So the discrepancy could be down to the difference in methods.

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** It's possible this is due to the method used, since every time someone lost their soul in DM, it was via magical means like the Orichalcos, whereas Kaito's Photon Hand is some kind of advanced technology (probably from the Barian World). So the discrepancy could be down to the difference in methods.methods.

[[WMG: The Barian Emperors' new Goal?]]
Okay so with the return of [[spoiler:Nasch (aka Barian Shark).]] I understand that the Barians are now going to take an active role in protecting their world from being destroyed. But a few things strike me as odd. First how does Earth factor into this? I mean Don Thousand wanted to merge the Barian world and Earth so that he could gain the energy to destroy the Astral world but the Emperors don't exactly know of his involvement yet. (Save for Vector of course) So what is their aim in all this? Do they have some way to utilize that same energy? Second, I know that they wish to save their world but they pretty much lose any sort of AntiVillain status they had when they begin their assault on Earth. It's pretty much implied that everyone that disappears as this goes on is dead. So what? Are they sacrificing Earth to finally win the war?
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**** Effect timings in the game can be somewhat tricky at times. [[http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/gameplay/fasteffects_timing.html The official site has a page dedicated to explaining timings.]] On top of that, specific effects may have particular times they can be activated, such as during the attack declaration but before the damage calculation. Chaining effects complicates matters as well, as the effects in the chain may prevent other effects from activating due to them not being part of the chain. [[labelnote:Classic Example]] Take Axe of Despair, for example. It has an effect that can only activate when a monster equipped with it is destroyed. If said monster is destroyed in the middle of a chain, the player will not be able to activate Axe of Despair's effect because the timing was missed.[[/labelnote]]
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*** But the rules of the game allow for effects that change attack/defense values even after the initial Battle Step has already passed, meaning he could have activated it during the Damage Step.
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** Might have been due to the timing. I mean 96's trap may have pushed him though the "attack declaration" part of the battle since the card forced Hope Ray to attack his newly summoned monster and into damage calculation which would've meant the time to activate its effect would've passed.
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In the original Yu-Gi-Oh, when a person's soul get taken (Either by Pegasus or the Seal of Orichalcos), they enter a persistent vegetative state. However, when their soul gets taken in this series (By the Photon Hand), they instead rapidly age. (And I don't recall anyone losing their soul in either GX or 5D's; there they just died).

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In the original Yu-Gi-Oh, when a person's soul get taken (Either by Pegasus or the Seal of Orichalcos), they enter a persistent vegetative state. However, when their soul gets taken in this series (By the Photon Hand), they instead rapidly age. (And I don't recall anyone losing their soul in either GX or 5D's; there they just died).died).
** It's possible this is due to the method used, since every time someone lost their soul in DM, it was via magical means like the Orichalcos, whereas Kaito's Photon Hand is some kind of advanced technology (probably from the Barian World). So the discrepancy could be down to the difference in methods.
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*** I guess so. I was hoping that Astral's MismatchedEyes would play into it but I think that's hoping for a little too much.

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*** I guess so. I was hoping that Astral's MismatchedEyes heterochromia would play into it but I think that's hoping for a little too much.
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* During 102, why didn't Black Mist activate the other effect of Black Storm, allowing it to essentially steal Utopia Ray's attack power when it was forced to attack?

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* During 102, why didn't Black Mist activate the other effect of Black Storm, allowing it to essentially steal Utopia Ray's attack power when it was forced to attack?attack?

[[WMG: Negative effects of losing soul inconsistent with rest of metaseries?]]
In the original Yu-Gi-Oh, when a person's soul get taken (Either by Pegasus or the Seal of Orichalcos), they enter a persistent vegetative state. However, when their soul gets taken in this series (By the Photon Hand), they instead rapidly age. (And I don't recall anyone losing their soul in either GX or 5D's; there they just died).

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