History Headscratchers / Victorious

** He's lying to try and save face and keep people interested in watching SamAndCat. The fact is they unexpectedly cancelled the show. Dan would have believed they were going to give him at least one more half-season. Instead Nick decided to just can all their ongoing shows, Victorious is very expensive to produce but it wasn't making enough ratings or profits. They decided they'd rather just cancel their expensive show with about 10 regular cast members, and instead just take the two most popular actresses in the tween demographic (ie Ariana and Jennette) and move their characters to the new ''SamAndCat'' show. Since Dan is running SamAndCat he doesn't want people to get angry at Nick, himself, Ariana or Jennette which might cause them to boycott or not bother watching the channel or the new show.

* Because she's a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, and is really hot, and is probably hooking up with all of them (besides Andre and Robbie). I mean, Beck is canon.. But you can just tell her and Cat have something more and then there's her and tori's love-hate.. But more on this in WMG / FetishFuel / GettingCrapPastTheRadar

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* They clearly have no respect for him. In one episode where they were re-enacting TheWizardOfOz, Beck flat out told Cat to punch him for no reason (claiming it was part of the show). Come to think of it, how is this even allowed without suspension? I swear, it's like as the show progresses, [[DesignatedHero I find myself hating these characters more than the intentional Scrappy]]. It's amazing Robbie hasn't started a school massacre by now.

** Because they are young and stupid. Look at how TheWiggles got started. The kids aren't old enough to look past the potential of their group because they are worried about the 'rep' being ruined by it. A popular self-owned children's group like they were could have made them all rich enough to retire before they turned 25.

[[WMG: Did the Vega sisters and Cat become {{Badass}}es?]]

** It's TheyJustDidntCare applied to continuity.

** That's exactly what bugs me. From the "episodes where he is clearly the villain of the piece," I figured his character in the play in "Tori the Zombie," but in that case we're on a [[MeanCharacterNiceActor completely different subject]]. From what I've seen, he's just as irritating as [[FamilyMatters Steve Urkel]] at worst.

*** Correction: no one gets arrested, unless you're [[DrakeAndJosh Josh]].

* Helen showing up creates a paradox within shows. Drake and Josh appears as a fictional show within iCarly and Victorious whereas Helen, Craig, Erik and even Josh Nichols are real persons in the latter 2 shows.
** Series/DrakeAndJosh isn't a fictional show. It's covered at Series/NickVerse, but in short, DrakeAndJosh, iCarly, Victorious and Zoey 101 all share the same universe and are all real people.
*** Actually, they aren't in the same universe. There's an episode in iCarly in which Carly wishes she was more dubious, more of a trickster. Anyway, in that episode, a depressed Carly is shown watching Drake and Josh, a scene in which Megan (also played my Miranda Cosgrove) has just played a prank on Drake and Josh. After which she says "Why can't I be more like that little girl?" So yeah, Drake and Josh is in a different universe from iCarly, Victorious and Zoey 101.
** Even if that's true, it's still a paradox: In "Who Did It To Trina?" Cat recounts the plot of an episode of DrakeAndJosh, which all of the other characters recognize as such, but in the episode immediately before that, no one notices how Helen strongly resembles a character from a show they are all obviously fans of.

*** The only explanation that really seems to avoid the paradox is to say that DrakeAndJosh exists as a show in Victorious, but that Helen was never a character on it in this storyline.

*** Yeah, Victorious and iCarly are clearly in the same universe, and at the end of Helen's first episode she mentions Crazy Steve. Who was played by the same actor who plays Spencer on iCarly. To say the least, that confused this tropette. Not to mention that Miranda Cosgrove was a main character in both iCarly and Dark and Josh...

**** It´s more about her NobleDemon / BlueAndOrangeMorality behavior. When she met Tori she perceived her as a treat so Jade attacked Tori, first with the coffe and latter with the fake injury. After Tori reffused to Rat Jade out the latter felt that she had given a DisproportionateRetribution and considered herself in debt with the first.
In other episodes is more Jade's stubbornness and fear to show weakness wath prevent her to openly accept Tori as her friend, after all most of the time Jade doesn't have anything bad to say about Tori other than "i don't like her, i'm not hr friend" and in Victori-yes she preffers hang out at the Vegas' home than going to watch a car race with her boyfriend.

**** It´s more about her NobleDemon / BlueAndOrangeMorality behavior. When she met Tori she perceived her as a treat so Jade attacked Tori, first with the coffe and later with the fake injury. After Tori reffused to Rat Jade out the latter felt that she had given a DisproportionateRetribution and considered herself in debt with the first.

**** It´s more about her NobleDemon / BlueAndOrangeMorality. When she met Tori she perceived her as a treat so Jade attackett Tori, first with the coffe and later with the fake injury. After Tori reffused to Rat Jade out the latter felt that she had given a DisproportionateRetribution thougth and considered herself in debt with the first.
In other episodes is more Jade's stubbornness and fear to show weakness wath prevent her to openly accept Tori as her friend, after all most of the time Jade doesn't have anything bad about Tori and in Victori-yes she preffers hang out at the Vegas' home than going to watch a car race with her boyfriend.

** He Seems like a nerdier, more annoying version of [[{{iCarly}} Freddie Benson.]] If Freddie can be a regular {{Woobie}}, why not Robbie?

** DrakeAndJosh isn't a fictional show. It's covered at TheNickVerse, but in short, DrakeAndJosh, iCarly, Victorious and Zoey 101 all share the same universe and are all real people.

** Jade was pretty much being passive-aggressive the entire time and I'm surprised that Sikowitz didn't ki k her out the second she came in.

Why is it that Jade gets praised for the [[MoralEventHorizon horrible things she does]], but when Robbie throws a few insults, he deserves all the abuse he gets? Jade has done far worse things, and yet people love her. [[AbuseIsOkayWhenItsFemaleOnMale Is it because]] [[DoubleStandard Robbie was born with a penis]]?

[[WMG: Is Tori really a sweet innocent NiceGirl or a BitchInSheep'sClothing ? ]]
First off she has kissed boys who are in a relationship like Beck ((Jade's)) and Cat's ((sweet [[Woobie]] Cat)) boyfriend that Tori apparently dated in the past. Another thing is that people still treat her the same sweet girl. Also, the boys never seem to do anything but kiss back as their girl gets hurt. When the tables are turned, she gets PO'ed, has some plan to humiliate the guy and people seem to help her with the plan. Also she can be a bystander to the abuse [[ButtMonkey Trina and Robbie]] gets. Heck, it seems like she wouldn't want anything to do with them. Maybe Jade is right, Tori's not the sweetheart person people make her be and could regally be a VillianProtagonist .

** It's implied that a lot of the characters are either gay, bi or pansexual, though depending on each viewer's personal interpretation as none are Wearing A Sign confirming they have homosexual attraction. Tori is as close to a canon bisexual heroine as we're likely to see on Nickelodeon for the time being (but she's still in the AmbiguouslyBi category), considering the subjects of some of her love songs, massive amounts of Les Yay and her almost-canon crush on Jade, and Cat, Robbie, Jade, Sinjin and Burf all have enough moments to suggest they have same-sex attraction, but nothing confirmed. Cat's "Uncle and Uncle" and Perez Hilton guest-staring are the only gay characters that can be considered canon, but even that was through WordOfGod and prior knowledge of the guest star, respectively, and none of them Hollywood Arts students. I guess perhaps there aren't any campy gay stereotypes that are sometimes associated with musical theater, but it's highly unlikely a performing arts school (in Hollywood of all places) would not have any gay-friendly students. I think it shows that while Nickelodeon is fine having heavily implied gay or bisexual characters, it's not willing to take the risk of possibly alienating more conservative parents and having an explicitly canon Gay Character or romance.

*** I still find it odd that ''no one'' knew about the rather popular show until the very next episode when it was filmed in the exact same state.

** It seems subtly implied that she's less afraid Tori is going to make a move and more so that Beck is the one with the hidden crush, which is one of the reasons she may constantly lash out at Tori (not to mention her own possible confused feelings for Tori, but that's for the YMMV category) and try to anger her enough to leave the clique. Given if that is her worst fear her reaction post-"Tori Goes Platinum" is a bit of a headscratcher, considering she seems to brush off Beck's [[spolier: almost kiss with Tori, which he initiated]] and so willingly [[spoiler: gets back together with him]] despite that "What If?" scenario and forever-unanswered feelings for Tori (and considering if it indeed did happen he would ruin his relationship with Jade forever and possibly cause a fissure within the group) no questions asked. Hmmmm...