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** It might be the fact that with Anne Bronte's work there is more realism than her sisters did and so Gilbert comes off as a safe replacement to Arthur Huntington.
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I know, I know, DeathOfTheAuthor, but I would like to know if Anne meant for Gilbert's behavior to come across as reprehensible as Helen apparently finds it. In their meeting at Staningley, Gilbert's acting the way Helen taught him to act and basing his actions on her instructions from their last meeting. If Gilbert burst in eager to ask for Helen's hand and expecting a "Yes," I hardly think she would have been flattered and not told him he was being too proud and presumptuous (just like Walter Hargrave). Yet, she accuses Gilbert of pride for doing the opposite. Pride is when, like [[PrideAndPrejudice Mr. Darcy]], you hesitate to ask a girl to marry you because you don't think she's good enough for you but eventually ask with no doubt of a "Yes." Gilbert hesitates to ask Helen to marry him because he doesn't think ''he's'' good enough for ''her''. Did Anne have any of this in mind, or am I seeing things that aren't emant to be there? Is Anne deliberately contrasting Gilbert's restraint and humility with the violent professions of passion made by Mr. Huntingdon and Mr. Hargrave, or does Anne condemn him as much as Helen does?
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I know, I know, DeathOfTheAuthor, but I would like to know if Anne meant for Gilbert's behavior to come across as reprehensible as Helen apparently finds it. In their meeting at Staningley, Gilbert's acting the way Helen taught him to act and basing his actions on her instructions from their last meeting. If Gilbert burst in eager to ask for Helen's hand and expecting a "Yes," I hardly think she would have been flattered and not told him he was being too proud and presumptuous (just like Walter Hargrave). Yet, she accuses Gilbert of pride for doing the opposite. Pride is when, like [[PrideAndPrejudice [[Literature/PrideAndPrejudice Mr. Darcy]], you hesitate to ask a girl to marry you because you don't think she's good enough for you but eventually ask with no doubt of a "Yes." Gilbert hesitates to ask Helen to marry him because he doesn't think ''he's'' good enough for ''her''. Did Anne have any of this in mind, or am I seeing things that aren't emant to be there? Is Anne deliberately contrasting Gilbert's restraint and humility with the violent professions of passion made by Mr. Huntingdon and Mr. Hargrave, or does Anne condemn him as much as Helen does?
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Why do fangirls swoon over [[Literature/JaneEyre Edward Rochester]] and the cruel villain [[Literature/WutheringHeights Heathcliff]] via DracoInLeatherPants but unjustly condemn Gilbert Markham as a JerkAss via RonTheDeathEater?
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Why do fangirls swoon over [[Literature/JaneEyre Edward Rochester]] and the cruel villain [[Literature/WutheringHeights Heathcliff]] via DracoInLeatherPants but unjustly condemn Gilbert Markham as a JerkAss via RonTheDeathEater?RonTheDeathEater?
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Why do fangirls swoon over [[JaneEyre Edward Rochester]] and the cruel villain [[WutheringHeights [[Literature/WutheringHeights Heathcliff]] via DracoInLeatherPants but unjustly condemn Gilbert Markham as a JerkAss via RonTheDeathEater?
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You know, if you want to be sexist, at least try to be smart about it, rather than blatantly generalizing.
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Why do fangirls swoon over [[JaneEyre Edward Rochester]] and the cruel villain [[WutheringHeights Heathcliff]] via DracoInLeatherPants but unjustly condemn Gilbert Markham as a JerkAss via RonTheDeathEater? Where is the logic? Way to confirm SherlockHolmes' assessment of women: "Woman's heart and mind are insoluble puzzles to the male. Murder might be condoned or explained, and yet some smaller offence might rankle."
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Why do fangirls swoon over [[JaneEyre Edward Rochester]] and the cruel villain [[WutheringHeights Heathcliff]] via DracoInLeatherPants but unjustly condemn Gilbert Markham as a JerkAss via RonTheDeathEater? Where is the logic? Way to confirm SherlockHolmes' assessment of women: "Woman's heart and mind are insoluble puzzles to the male. Murder might be condoned or explained, and yet some smaller offence might rankle."
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I know, I know, DeathOfTheAuthor, but I would like to know if Anne meant for Gilbert's behavior to come across as reprehensible as Helen apparently finds it. In their meeting at Staningley, Gilbert's acting the way Helen taught him to act and basing his actions on her instructions from their last meeting. If Gilbert burst in eager to ask for Helen's hand and expecting a "Yes," I hardly think she would have been flattered and not told him he was being too proud and presumptuous (just like Walter Hargrave). Yet, she accuses Gilbert of pride for doing the opposite. Pride is when, like [[PrideAndPrejudice Mr. Darcy]], you hesitate to ask a girl to marry you because you don't think she's good enough for you but eventually ask with no doubt of a "Yes." Gilbert hesitates to ask Helen to marry him because he doesn't think ''he's'' good enough for ''her''. Did Anne have any of this in mind, or am I seeing things that aren't emant to be there? Is Anne deliberately contrasting Gilbert's restraint and humility with the violent professions of passion made by Mr. Huntingdon and Mr. Hargrave, or does Anne condemn him as much as Helen does?
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I know, I know, DeathOfTheAuthor, but I would like to know if Anne meant for Gilbert's behavior to come across as reprehensible as Helen apparently finds it. In their meeting at Staningley, Gilbert's acting the way Helen taught him to act and basing his actions on her instructions from their last meeting. If Gilbert burst in eager to ask for Helen's hand and expecting a "Yes," I hardly think she would have been flattered and not told him he was being too proud and presumptuous (just like Walter Hargrave). Yet, she accuses Gilbert of pride for doing the opposite. Pride is when, like [[PrideAndPrejudice Mr. Darcy]], you hesitate to ask a girl to marry you because you don't think she's good enough for you but eventually ask with no doubt of a "Yes." Gilbert hesitates to ask Helen to marry him because he doesn't think ''he's'' good enough for ''her''. Did Anne have any of this in mind, or am I seeing things that aren't emant to be there? Is Anne deliberately contrasting Gilbert's restraint and humility with the violent professions of passion made by Mr. Huntingdon and Mr. Hargrave, or does Anne condemn him as much as Helen does?does?
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Why do fangirls swoon over [[JaneEyre Edward Rochester]] and the cruel villain [[WutheringHeights Heathcliff]] via DracoInLeatherPants but unjustly condemn Gilbert Markham as a JerkAss via RonTheDeathEater? Where is the logic? Way to confirm SherlockHolmes' assessment of women: "Woman's heart and mind are insoluble puzzles to the male. Murder might be condoned or explained, and yet some smaller offence might rankle."
[[WMG: The DoubleStandard regarding The Bronte sisters' heroes and AllGirlsWantBadBoys]]
Why do fangirls swoon over [[JaneEyre Edward Rochester]] and the cruel villain [[WutheringHeights Heathcliff]] via DracoInLeatherPants but unjustly condemn Gilbert Markham as a JerkAss via RonTheDeathEater? Where is the logic? Way to confirm SherlockHolmes' assessment of women: "Woman's heart and mind are insoluble puzzles to the male. Murder might be condoned or explained, and yet some smaller offence might rankle."
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I know, I know, DeathOfTheAuthor, but I would like to know if Anne meant for Gilbert's behavior to come across as reprehensible as Helen apparently finds it. In their meeting at Staningley, Gilbert's acting the way Helen taught him to act and basing his actions on her instructions from their last meeting. If Gilbert burst in eager to ask for Helen's hand and expecting a "Yes," I hardly think she would have been flattered and not told him he was being too proud and presumptuous (just like Walter Hargrave). Yet, she accuses Gilbert of pride for doing the opposite. Pride is when, like [[PrideAndPrejudice Mr. Darcy]], you hesitate to ask a girl to marry you because you don't think she's good enough for you but eventually ask with no doubt of a "Yes." Gilbert hesitates to ask Helen to marry him because he doesn't think ''he's'' good enough for ''her''. Did Anne have any of thsi in mind? Is she deliberately contrasting Gilbert's restraint and humility with the violent professions of passion made by Mr. Huntingdon and Mr. Hargrave, or does Anne condemn him as much as Helen does?
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I know, I know, DeathOfTheAuthor, but I would like to know if Anne meant for Gilbert's behavior to come across as reprehensible as Helen apparently finds it. In their meeting at Staningley, Gilbert's acting the way Helen taught him to act and basing his actions on her instructions from their last meeting. If Gilbert burst in eager to ask for Helen's hand and expecting a "Yes," I hardly think she would have been flattered and not told him he was being too proud and presumptuous (just like Walter Hargrave). Yet, she accuses Gilbert of pride for doing the opposite. Pride is when, like [[PrideAndPrejudice Mr. Darcy]], you hesitate to ask a girl to marry you because you don't think she's good enough for you but eventually ask with no doubt of a "Yes." Gilbert hesitates to ask Helen to marry him because he doesn't think ''he's'' good enough for ''her''. Did Anne have any of thsi this in mind? mind, or am I seeing things that aren't emant to be there? Is she Anne deliberately contrasting Gilbert's restraint and humility with the violent professions of passion made by Mr. Huntingdon and Mr. Hargrave, or does Anne condemn him as much as Helen does?
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