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5th May '17 8:22:57 PM lorgskyegon
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** My guess would be that Balthazar considers being a bad liar to be a sign of being a good person.
15th Apr '17 5:55:38 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* Does Dave being a bad liar hold any actual significance in the film? Balthazar states at one point that "it's a good sign", but it never comes up in any meaningful way.
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22nd Dec '16 8:09:46 AM Morgenthaler
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** What makes this worse is, apparently she ''was'' intended to have a larger role. The Making Of shows her (as well as Balthazar and Dave) holding off Morgana's fire attack, and the novelization includes this as well. The latter also has her understand what Dave is trying to do, agreeing that using the lingering power of Morgana's circle could just be the only way to save Balthazar. If memory serves she even instructs him a bit. As it is though, it all starts to sound like a really big DoubleStandard since all the women in the movie are ineffectual or evil. Here's hoping if they do get to make the sequel, we get to see Veronica do real magic, as well as be BadAss. I'd love to see her help take on Chernabog.

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** What makes this worse is, apparently she ''was'' intended to have a larger role. The Making Of shows her (as well as Balthazar and Dave) holding off Morgana's fire attack, and the novelization includes this as well. The latter also has her understand what Dave is trying to do, agreeing that using the lingering power of Morgana's circle could just be the only way to save Balthazar. If memory serves she even instructs him a bit. As it is though, it all starts to sound like a really big DoubleStandard since all the women in the movie are ineffectual or evil. Here's hoping if they do get to make the sequel, we get to see Veronica do real magic, as well as be BadAss.badass. I'd love to see her help take on Chernabog.
22nd Oct '16 11:43:00 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* They didn't include the original Dukas Sorcerer's Apprentice piece in its entirety. [[TheyJustDidntCare Not even in the credits where it would make the most sense]]. They barely had snippets of it in the film. '''WHAT THE #$@$#@?!!!!!'''

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* They didn't include the original Dukas Sorcerer's Apprentice piece in its entirety. [[TheyJustDidntCare Not even in the credits where it would make the most sense]].sense. They barely had snippets of it in the film. '''WHAT THE #$@$#@?!!!!!'''
7th May '16 10:21:32 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** Let's not forget that Veronica was, according to Balthazar, the one who "[[IJustWantToBeNormal always just wanted to be normal]]", just like Dave. While they could've done more to have her convey this side of herself when she actually appears onscreen, in my opinion, it still would've been weird if they'd brought it up not only to not mention it later, but have her completely go against it by using magic to fight with no reservations.
2nd Jan '16 8:55:39 AM CaptHayfever
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*** If the Troper before you is correct & the first spell only allows movement within sight of the trapping mirror, then Horvath couldn't leave the room to find another reflective surface elsewhere.
5th Apr '15 3:16:37 PM Ingonyama
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** She does apparently participate briefly in the shield against Morgana's spell with Dave and Balthazar (freeze-frame on the DVD is your friend), but otherwise she doesn't do anything to help, just crouches over Balthazar and cradles him. She doesn't even do anything to try and help Dave resuscitate him. Yes, the movie was all about the ChosenOne coming into his powers, and he was prophesied as [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou The Only One Allowed To Defeat Her]], but surely she could have helped ''somehow. At the very least having housed Morgana in her for centuries she might have learned some powerful spells or perhaps even a weakness she could have told Dave.

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** She does apparently participate briefly in the shield against Morgana's spell with Dave and Balthazar (freeze-frame on the DVD is your friend), but otherwise she doesn't do anything to help, just crouches over Balthazar and cradles him. She doesn't even do anything to try and help Dave resuscitate him. Yes, the movie was all about the ChosenOne coming into his powers, and he was prophesied as [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou The Only One Allowed To Defeat Her]], but surely she could have helped ''somehow.''somehow''. At the very least having housed Morgana in her for centuries she might have learned some powerful spells or perhaps even a weakness she could have told Dave.
4th Dec '14 10:23:46 AM bookwormgal
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*** Uh, that IS the point. Yes, AWizardDidIt is a trope, but in a universe with SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic, AWizardDidIt is no more acceptable than "A scientist did it" would be in a hard sci fi movie. Once you decide you're going to explain magic and not just HandWave it then yes, you ''do'' need to explain how it works. Basically you're saying you think magic should never be explained. That's a valid view, but trying to explain it, whether through MagicAIsMagicA, SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic, or some other way of explaining the rules of FunctionalMagic, is equally valid.



*** Uh, that IS the point. Yes, AWizardDidIt is a trope, but in a universe with SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic, AWizardDidIt is no more acceptable than "A scientist did it" would be in a hard sci fi movie. Once you decide you're going to explain magic and not just HandWave it then yes, you ''do'' need to explain how it works. Basically you're saying you think magic should never be explained. That's a valid view, but trying to explain it, whether through MagicAIsMagicA, SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic, or some other way of explaining the rules of FunctionalMagic, is equally valid.

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*** Uh, that IS the point. Yes, AWizardDidIt is a trope, but in a universe with SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic, AWizardDidIt is no more acceptable than "A scientist did it" would be in a hard sci fi movie. Once you decide you're going to explain magic and not just HandWave it then yes, you ''do'' need to explain how it works. Basically you're saying you think magic should never be explained. That's a valid view, but trying to explain it, whether through MagicAIsMagicA, SufficientlyAnalyzedMagic, or some other way of explaining the rules of FunctionalMagic, is equally valid.
3rd Dec '14 1:19:18 PM bookwormgal
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[[folder:No supervision for giant makeshift speakers?]]


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** Thatís just what we see him doing with it for the big romantic moment. He expressly says that he was doing some kind of research and the whole plasma speaker thing was something he had never noticed or thought about until he listened to her radio show.
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*** Make sure to start out by shouting "[[Film/MenInBlack Hey! Old guys!]]"
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** Maybe he just likes the crazy man hairstyle?
*** Um, he was busy with training Dave, dealing with Horvath and Co, planning for foiling Morgana, and catching up on research on the fusion spell? He was a teeny bit busy and had other things on his mind. Hair care does take second place to saving the world...
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** Could be that the spell specifies he needs a second mirrored surface, different than the one he was stuck in. Else it wouldn't be much of trap, would it?
*** It was a different spell. The First is described as a "Mirror Trap" while the second is "Mirror universe". WMG: The first spell allows only movement within where the mirror can "see", while the second is a different spell, easier to cast while on the run, that creates a mirror universe.


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** Not much of an issue story-wise, honestly, and adding the towers in digitally, while possible, was probably considered a bad idea for obvious reasons.
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** [[FridgeHorror Or maybe ]] he recorded her show so he can just listen to her voice [[StalkerWithACrush all night]].
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[[folder: Rules for Magic, Part 1]]


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3rd Dec '14 1:03:23 PM bookwormgal
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** So because he's old, he's not allowed to take offense at the comment?
** I thought he was just messing with Dave there. He's certainly shown himself to be snarky enough for it.
** Old people don't really like to be told they're old. Just ask one.
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