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23rd Apr '16 3:26:54 AM ghost151
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**It's implied she just liked to record her puppet shows. She heard her mother coming and she was supposed to be sick in bed, so she quickly put things away and hadn't enough time to turn the camera off before Mom barged in. The real question to be asked is how did she acquire that tape after dying? Even if she knew its contents would implicate her mother in her death after being made aware of it with Cole's help (since she knew the tape existed before her death), it doesn't really follow that she could just produce the tape as a real world object to Cole upon requesting the help her.


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** It's a concept among ghost hunters called EVP (electronic voice phenomenon). Supposedly, the voices/energies of the dead can be recorded at extremely low volumes by electronic equipment, but it gets garbled into the static/white noise present in the recording (or may even BE the static, with innumerable overlapping voices creating nothing but noise). It's largely dismissed as a form of pareidolia (attribution of humanity to an inanimate or nonliving thing, the "seeing faces" mental illusion) or false positive in pattern recognition. Or in others words, finding what you want to be there. Compared to "real" examples present by paranormal enthusiasts, the Spanish speaker is remarkably discernible and clear. A somewhat goofy example of it was used in the film White Noise where it was a sort of conduit between the world of the living and the world of the dead.
28th Jan '16 6:59:19 AM FF32
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** That was her mother? I thought she was an EvilStepmother.

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** That was her mother? I thought she was an EvilStepmother.WickedStepmother.
27th Jan '16 2:30:05 PM fearlessnikki
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** The film doesn't say anything either way. But they did choose an actress who looked quite similar to Mischa Barton - shoulder-length blonde hair, angular jaw - so it's likely Shyamalan intended her to be the biological mother.
** The script refers to her as 'Mrs Collins' and 'the girl's mother', so yes she is the biological mother.


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** It depends on how she was poisoning Kyra. Take ''Literature/FlowersInTheAttic'' where characters are poisoned over a few months by arsenic being added to their food. Perhaps she was giving her enough poison to make her feel poorly, but not enough to raise the doctors' suspicions. As said above, she was said to have been getting better before she died - and the mother gave her a bigger dose of poison.
4th Nov '15 9:29:37 AM R1ck
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** By being a quiet person with a lot on their minds. This troper spent most of her high school lunches being ignored in silence and is probably not dead.
*** [[TomatoInTheMirror You sure?]]
**** [[WeirdnessCensor Is who sure?]] (This troper agrees with the one below, to a degree, and Bruce Willis was only fully manifest for things that wouldn't have killed his weirdness censor, and was just metaphorically and absentmindedly kicking a can around the street to pass the time.)
**** I was merely questioning if the troper I was replying to was sure about the "probably isn't dead" thing. Perhaps a Troper in life is left a Troper in death, and is unaware of death because existence as a ghost is filled entirely with surfing this web page rather then interacting with humans. Of course, the question is if that's [[TVTropesWillEnhanceYourLife heaven]] or [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife hell.]]
**** I was kidding. That was what the link to WeirdnessCensor was suppposed to indicate. You See Dead People. ByTheEyesOfTheBlind may have been better, but I didn't think of it. My apologies for any confusion. In addition to the opinion above and below that Bruce Willis' ghost stopped paying attention to existence most of the time, just wandering around without thinking, it's also possible, nay probable that he would have figured it out before, and blanked it out, like a lot of ghosts do in other movies. Probably what the hanged ghosts were doing almost constantly. "I've been hanging here a while, when am I going to finally die? Hey, that kid in the weird clothing walked through my leg! I must already be dead! Nooooooo! Noooo! Nooo... Ah, well, whatever." Three hours later: "Hey, I've been hanging here a long time..." You've got to remember, he wasn't dating and most of his patients stopped seeing him a while back.

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** By being a quiet person with a lot on their minds. This troper spent most of her high school lunches being ignored in silence and is probably not dead.
*** [[TomatoInTheMirror You sure?]]
**** [[WeirdnessCensor Is who sure?]] (This troper agrees with the one below, to a degree, and Bruce Willis was only fully manifest for things that wouldn't have killed his weirdness censor, and was just metaphorically and absentmindedly kicking a can around the street to pass the time.)
**** I was merely questioning if the troper I was replying to was sure about the "probably isn't dead" thing. Perhaps a Troper in life is left a Troper in death, and is unaware of death because existence as a ghost is filled entirely with surfing this web page rather then interacting with humans. Of course, the question is if that's [[TVTropesWillEnhanceYourLife heaven]] or [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife hell.]]
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I was kidding. That was what the link to WeirdnessCensor was suppposed to indicate. You See Dead People. ByTheEyesOfTheBlind may have been better, but I didn't think of it. My apologies for any confusion. In addition to the opinion above and below that Bruce Willis' ghost stopped paying attention to existence most of the time, just wandering around without thinking, it's also possible, nay probable that he would have figured it out before, and blanked it out, like a lot of ghosts do in other movies. Probably what the hanged ghosts were doing almost constantly. "I've been hanging here a while, when am I going to finally die? Hey, that kid in the weird clothing walked through my leg! I must already be dead! Nooooooo! Noooo! Nooo... Ah, well, whatever." Three hours later: "Hey, I've been hanging here a long time..." You've got to remember, he wasn't dating and most of his patients stopped seeing him a while back.
11th Sep '15 9:18:44 PM anonexistentuser
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** A poster (the very poster on the [[Film/TheSixthSense Film]] page, for that matter) lists "Touch, Taste, Hear, Smell, See, '''Fear'''" (emphasis mine). Fear may not be a "sense" by the traditional or literal definition of the word, but it certainly fits the movie. Plus, [=ESP=] ''is'' traditionally called "the (or 'a') sixth sense".



*** Some of this isn't necessarily WMG; Malcolm's profile of Cole notes that he was "referred autumn 1998", so it's possible that he was supposed to start therapy with Malcolm before the good doc got busy with his not-being-alive-ness.



* How did the voice of the spanish-speaking ghost get recorded on the tape that Malcolm had of his appointment with Vincent? If ghosts can't be seen or heard by anyone with the exception of those with powers like Cole and Vincent, it doesn't make sense that their voices could be recorded, or at the very least, only those with powers should be able to hear the voice on the recording. If ghosts can be recorded, they surely would have been discovered by the general public given how they are everywhere and many of them are quite loud; you'd think plenty of people would have caught them in audio recordings over the years (or even possibly video - if their voices could be recorded, why not their bodies?). This seemed to me to be a very major plot hole, is there any explanation?

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* How did the voice of the spanish-speaking Spanish-speaking ghost get recorded on the tape that Malcolm had of his appointment with Vincent? If ghosts can't be seen or heard by anyone with the exception of those with powers like Cole and Vincent, it doesn't make sense that their voices could be recorded, or at the very least, only those with powers should be able to hear the voice on the recording. If ghosts can be recorded, they surely would have been discovered by the general public given how they are everywhere and many of them are quite loud; you'd think plenty of people would have caught them in audio recordings over the years (or even possibly video - if their voices could be recorded, why not their bodies?). This seemed to me to be a very major plot hole, is there any explanation?
14th Aug '15 7:07:08 AM Talia_T
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* Didn't Cole's teacher mention that Philadelphia (their city) is one of the oldest parts of America, and most buildings have had previous uses? Like the schoolhouse. People may have died in Their apartment before it became a home.
13th Jun '15 8:22:43 PM Lukas17
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** We only hear of the seven doctors from two people attending the funeral, not from the mom or dad. It might have been a lie she said earlier on that spread. For all we know she had never taken Kyra to the doctor or was counting school nurses and other medical staff who wouldn't be able to run those kind of tests as "doctors".


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** Alternatively, all those ghosts needed closure from a specific person while Crowe needed closure from helping a child with a similar problem to his former patient and it didn't matter who that child was.
12th May '15 2:41:45 AM jwm
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** The same way the other ghosts go decades or centuries and still not know. They don't feel time passing like the living.


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** In general, the ghosts seem to see Cole as someone from their life based on whatever trauma is keeping them a ghost. It happens that what Crowe needs for closure is to help a child suffering like Vincent was. In other words, he was the only ghost that actually saw and interacted with Cole as what he was and tried to actually have a conversation.
12th May '15 2:20:57 AM jwm
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** He always knew. It is established that he saw the gunshot wound all along just like he sees all the ghosts in their dead state. He pointedly looks at it several times.
5th Apr '15 4:35:21 PM Automne
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** Keep in mind that by the time Malcolm's giving Vincent's tapes another listen, Cole's told him about being able to see the dead. Malcolm is now specifically listening for ''something'' and has turned up the volume beyond his normal listening volume. Once he hears a tiny something out of the ordinary, he turns the volume all the way up and finally hears the Spanish ghost that scares Vincent. There's also the fact that Lynn must have looked at photos of Cole numerous times and yet, never noticed the little Tinkerbell-ish light that represents a ghost in each and every one of them (right at which Cole is looking) until that point in the film where her son's issues are coming to a head. So ghosts are being recorded, but in such a subtle way that the average person just doesn't notice until they're looking for it or if they do notice it, it's explained away. More like, "Oh, they must have screwed up developing the pictures at the One Hour Photo," (because this was 1999 before everybody and their mom had a DSLR) or "Must be some extra noise or voices that accidentally got recorded or something." Something before people leap to "Must be ghosts."

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** Keep in mind that by the time Malcolm's giving Vincent's tapes another listen, Cole's told him about being able to see the dead. Malcolm is now specifically listening for ''something'' and has turned up the volume up beyond his normal listening volume.level. Once he hears a tiny something out of the ordinary, he turns the volume all the way up and finally hears the Spanish ghost that scares Vincent. There's also the fact that Lynn must have looked at photos of Cole numerous times and yet, never noticed the little Tinkerbell-ish light that represents a ghost in each and every one of them (right at which Cole is looking) until that point in the film where her son's issues are coming to a head. So ghosts are being recorded, but in such a subtle way that the average person just doesn't notice until they're looking for it or if it. If they do notice it, it's explained away. More like, "Oh, they must have screwed up developing the pictures at the One Hour Photo," (because this was 1999 before everybody and their mom had a DSLR) or "Must be some extra noise or voices that accidentally got recorded or something." Something before people leap to "Must be ghosts."
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