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** Fixed in Generations: You can adjust each length of life stage separately.

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* Yes, there are {{Game Mod}}s for this too, but [[Tropers/SlvstrChung this troper]] is annoyed that ''TS3'' does not support more than 5 Traits out of the box. Seriously, EA, what kind of personality-deficient buffs work at ''your'' office that you can describe them with only five adjectives? I don't know ''anyone'' who can be accurately captured with less than seven. The traits system itself was a major step in the right direction (as opposed to the silly points system of the second game), but you didn't take it far enough.

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***What gets me is that my sim was on the computer and his sister walks in and begins to freak out, saying that he was cheating on his boyfriend. Sure, she was an excitable sim, but still.
* Yes, there are {{Game Mod}}s for this too, but [[Tropers/SlvstrChung this troper]] is annoyed that ''TS3'' does not support more than 5 Traits out of the box. Seriously, EA, what kind of personality-deficient buffs work at ''your'' office that you can describe them with only five adjectives? I don't know ''anyone'' who can be accurately captured with less than seven. The traits system itself was a major step in the right direction (as opposed to the silly points system of the second game), but you didn't take it far enough.
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*** They're the equivalent of bubble blowers that [[AluminiumChristmasTrees kids play with in real life.]]
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* Curfew. It can be really unsettling at times. A teenager can be sitting outside his house, on the sidewalk doing homework, and the police will get you. But you can be inside the pool all night, with no problem.
** This could achually be used as evidence that The Sims takes place in a dystopia. I mean really, a teenager should be able to go out past 11 PM if they have permission or something.

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* Curfew. It can be really unsettling at times. A teenager can be sitting outside his house, on the sidewalk doing homework, and the police will get you. But you can be inside the pool all night, with no problem.
** This could achually be used as evidence that The Sims takes place in a dystopia. I mean really, a teenager should be able to go out past 11 PM if they have permission or something.
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** It's still makes no sense in certain situations, such as the one described.

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** It's still makes no sense in certain situations, such as the one described. described.
** It depends on what's being done. For example, if a Sim cheats on their partner by having sex with another sim, the Sim being cheated on will immediately know if they are anywhere on the lot. But with socials like flirting and kissing, the Sim being cheated on must be in the room to know (children should be kept out to, as the Sim being cheated on can know from them). Also, if the 2nd lover leaves the Sim a bouquet of flowers and the Sim who was cheated on reads it, they will also know.
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* Curfew. It can be really unsettling at times. A teenager can be sitting outside his house, on the sidewalk doing homework, and the police will get you. But you can be inside the pool all night, with no problem.

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* Curfew. It can be really unsettling at times. A teenager can be sitting outside his house, on the sidewalk doing homework, and the police will get you. But you can be inside the pool all night, with no problem.problem.
** This could achually be used as evidence that The Sims takes place in a dystopia. I mean really, a teenager should be able to go out past 11 PM if they have permission or something.
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* What's with the design changes between the ages? Most of the time their hair and clothing don't look anything like you'd expect.

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* What's with the design changes between the ages? Most of the time their hair and clothing don't look anything like you'd expect.expect.
* Curfew. It can be really unsettling at times. A teenager can be sitting outside his house, on the sidewalk doing homework, and the police will get you. But you can be inside the pool all night, with no problem.

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* What's with the way the Sims act in 3? They reach UncannyValley a lot, especially Mortimer. Is he mentally sane, or just weird?

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* What's with the way the Sims act in 3? They reach UncannyValley a lot, especially Mortimer. Is he mentally sane, or just weird?weird?
* What's with the design changes between the ages? Most of the time their hair and clothing don't look anything like you'd expect.
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* The length of the Child life stage in ''The Sims 3''. Beyond just children being cute, it's actually a pretty significant life stage, as it provides a good opportunity to practice skills that will be more useful in the Teen and Young Adult stages, as well as having a fair number of unique options -- even more once Generations comes out. The problem being that on any lifespan setting other than "Epic", it's so short as to render this effectively meaningless.

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* The length of the Child life stage in ''The Sims 3''. Beyond just children being cute, it's actually a pretty significant life stage, as it provides a good opportunity to practice skills that will be more useful in the Teen and Young Adult stages, as well as having a fair number of unique options -- even more once Generations comes out. The problem being that on any lifespan setting other than "Epic", it's so short as to render this effectively meaningless.meaningless.
** I also find it too short. Especially since childhood is the cutest and most fun stage for me.
* What's with the way the Sims act in 3? They reach UncannyValley a lot, especially Mortimer. Is he mentally sane, or just weird?

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** Unless the sim achtually watchs them whilst they do it/flirt/kiss, they don't realize they are being cheated on.

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** Unless the sim achtually watchs Sim actually watches them whilst they do it/flirt/kiss, they don't realize they are being cheated on.


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** It's still makes no sense in certain situations, such as the one described.
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** I seem to recall at least one interview where the dev team cited Quirks in {{GURPS}} for one of the things that inspired the trait system; it's likely an artifact of that (Which, in turn, is likely an artifact of the fact that GURPS is notoriously pentaphilic)

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** I seem to recall at least one interview where the dev team cited Quirks in {{GURPS}} for one of the things that inspired the trait system; it's likely an artifact of that (Which, in turn, is likely an artifact of the fact that GURPS is notoriously pentaphilic)pentaphilic)
* The length of the Child life stage in ''The Sims 3''. Beyond just children being cute, it's actually a pretty significant life stage, as it provides a good opportunity to practice skills that will be more useful in the Teen and Young Adult stages, as well as having a fair number of unique options -- even more once Generations comes out. The problem being that on any lifespan setting other than "Epic", it's so short as to render this effectively meaningless.
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* The [[FanDumb whiny fans]]. The ones who want pets and seasons and ponies and glittery rainbows. And also want them all with ABSOLUTELY NO SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS AND FOR FREE OR ELSE I'M NEVER BUYING A SIMS GAME AGAIN OK MAYBE A STUFF PACK.
* This, ''so, so much''. Also, the fans that previously whined that Sims wasn't realistic enough, then complain that The Sims 3 is too advanced. Ugh.
** There's a pretty big difference between "realistic" and "advanced," either of which can be applied to multiple types of elements in the game (graphics, style, personalities, reactions to social situations, etc). Further, it's not hypocritical unless ''the exact same Simmers'' are making both complaints (assuming each one is as equivalent as you presume): the amorphous horde on a forum making one statement is not necessarily the same amorphous horde making a different one. Coincidentally, this distinction (or rather, the frequent lack thereof) is my own fandom-based IJBM.
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*** Not completely true(at least not in TS2). If one Sim is on a date with another and the cuckolded Sim sees them - even if the cheater is all alone and not doing anything out of the ordinary! - they immediately know they're being cheated on.
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** Unless the sim achtually watchs them whilst they do it/flirt/kiss, they don't realize they are being cheated on.
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* Yes, there are {{Game Mod}}s for this too, but [[Tropers/SlvstrChung this troper]] is annoyed that ''TS3'' does not support more than 5 Traits out of the box. Seriously, EA, what kind of personality-deficient buffs work at ''your'' office that you can describe them with only five adjectives? I don't know ''anyone'' who can be accurately captured with less than seven. The traits system itself was a major step in the right direction (as opposed to the silly points system of the second game), but you didn't take it far enough.

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* Yes, there are {{Game Mod}}s for this too, but [[Tropers/SlvstrChung this troper]] is annoyed that ''TS3'' does not support more than 5 Traits out of the box. Seriously, EA, what kind of personality-deficient buffs work at ''your'' office that you can describe them with only five adjectives? I don't know ''anyone'' who can be accurately captured with less than seven. The traits system itself was a major step in the right direction (as opposed to the silly points system of the second game), but you didn't take it far enough.enough.
** I seem to recall at least one interview where the dev team cited Quirks in {{GURPS}} for one of the things that inspired the trait system; it's likely an artifact of that (Which, in turn, is likely an artifact of the fact that GURPS is notoriously pentaphilic)
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* Why don't Sims react to certain events? For example, I had a married lesbian couple in one game. One of them had an affair with her wifes brother, and got pregnant by him. ''The wife never questioned it''. Huh? Does she think girls just randomly get pregnant or that her wife got an AI?

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* Why don't Sims react to certain events? For example, I had a married lesbian couple in one game. One of them had an affair with her wifes brother, and got pregnant by him. ''The wife never questioned it''. Huh? Does she think girls just randomly get pregnant or that her wife got an AI?AI?
* Yes, there are {{Game Mod}}s for this too, but [[Tropers/SlvstrChung this troper]] is annoyed that ''TS3'' does not support more than 5 Traits out of the box. Seriously, EA, what kind of personality-deficient buffs work at ''your'' office that you can describe them with only five adjectives? I don't know ''anyone'' who can be accurately captured with less than seven. The traits system itself was a major step in the right direction (as opposed to the silly points system of the second game), but you didn't take it far enough.
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** There's a pretty big difference between "realistic" and "advanced," either of which can be applied to multiple types of elements in the game (graphics, style, personalities, reactions to social situations, etc). Further, it's not hypocritical unless ''the exact same Simmers'' are making both complaints (assuming each one is as equivalent as you presume): the amorphous horde on a forum making one statement is not necessarily the same amorphous horde making a different one. Coincidentally, this distinction (or rather, the frequent lack thereof) is my own fandom-based IJBM.
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** They're probably more like candy cigarettes
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* This, ''so, so much''. Also, the fans that previously whined that Sims wasn't realistic enough, then complain that The Sims 3 is too advanced. Ugh.

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* This, ''so, so much''. Also, the fans that previously whined that Sims wasn't realistic enough, then complain that The Sims 3 is too advanced. Ugh.Ugh.
* Why don't Sims react to certain events? For example, I had a married lesbian couple in one game. One of them had an affair with her wifes brother, and got pregnant by him. ''The wife never questioned it''. Huh? Does she think girls just randomly get pregnant or that her wife got an AI?
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** That was just a case of shameless product placement. The patch included that wish because the next expansion included Hot Tubs. "Want to satisfy your sim's wish? Buy the new expansion!". What bugs Me, is that with the expansion installed, my sims have yet to wish for a hot tub, when previous to having the expansion, they kept wanting that damn hot tub every day.

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* ''How the hell'' do you get a hot tub?
** Its in the "Plumbing" section in the buy mode.
** Really? I can't find it in TheSims3...
*** You need Late Night or Outdoor Life.
**** Ah. Okay. Thank you. My Just Bugs Me is now changed to the fact that Sims ask for hot tubs in games where ''hot tubs do not exist''.

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* ''How the hell'' do you get a hot tub?
** Its in the "Plumbing" section in the buy mode.
** Really? I can't find it in TheSims3...
*** You need Late Night or Outdoor Life.
**** Ah. Okay. Thank you. My Just Bugs Me is now changed to the fact that
Sims ask for want hot tubs in games a game where ''hot tubs do not exist''.exist''. Maybe it's a bizarre variant of IWantMyJetpack...

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* The Romance aspiration in the Sims 2 can be really unrealistic at times. They will want to bed as many Sims as possible...but go nuts if any of their bed buddies hooks up with someone else, even if the Sim in question was cheating on a spouse/lover to be with ''them''! Yes, I understand people are hypocrites in real life, but there needs to be some sort of Open Relationship or Friends with Benefits option.m

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* The Romance aspiration in the Sims 2 can be really unrealistic at times. They will want to bed as many Sims as possible...but go nuts if any of their bed buddies hooks up with someone else, even if the Sim in question was cheating on a spouse/lover to be with ''them''! Yes, I understand people are hypocrites in real life, but there needs to be some sort of Open Relationship or Friends with Benefits option.moption.
** There's a [[http://www.simbology.com/smf/index.php?topic=19.0 mod for that.]]
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* The [[FanDumb whiny fans]]. The ones who want pets and seasons and ponies and glittery rainbows. And also want them all with ABSOLUTELY NO SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS AND FOR FREE OR ELSE I'M NEVER BUYING A SIMS GAME AGAIN OK MAYBE A STUFF PACK.

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* The [[FanDumb whiny fans]]. The ones who want pets and seasons and ponies and glittery rainbows. And also want them all with ABSOLUTELY NO SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS AND FOR FREE OR ELSE I'M NEVER BUYING A SIMS GAME AGAIN OK MAYBE A STUFF PACK.PACK.
* This, ''so, so much''. Also, the fans that previously whined that Sims wasn't realistic enough, then complain that The Sims 3 is too advanced. Ugh.
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**** Ah. Okay. Thank you. My Just Bugs Me is now changed to the fact that Sims ask for hot tubs in games where ''hot tubs do not exist''.
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* The [[FanDumb whiny fans]]. The ones who want pets and seasons and ponies and glittery rainbows. And also want them all with ABSOLUTELY NO BUGS OR ELSE I'M NEVER BUYING A SIMS GAME AGAIN OK MAYBE A STUFF PACK.

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* The [[FanDumb whiny fans]]. The ones who want pets and seasons and ponies and glittery rainbows. And also want them all with ABSOLUTELY NO BUGS SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS AND FOR FREE OR ELSE I'M NEVER BUYING A SIMS GAME AGAIN OK MAYBE A STUFF PACK.
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** Really? I can't find it in TheSims3...

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** Really? I can't find it in TheSims3...TheSims3...
*** You need Late Night or Outdoor Life.
* The [[FanDumb whiny fans]]. The ones who want pets and seasons and ponies and glittery rainbows. And also want them all with ABSOLUTELY NO BUGS OR ELSE I'M NEVER BUYING A SIMS GAME AGAIN OK MAYBE A STUFF PACK.
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** Its in the "Plumbing" section in the buy mode.

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** Its in the "Plumbing" section in the buy mode.mode.
** Really? I can't find it in TheSims3...
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* ''How the hell'' do you get a hot tub?

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* ''How the hell'' do you get a hot tub?tub?
** Its in the "Plumbing" section in the buy mode.

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* The Romance aspiration in the Sims 2 can be really unrealistic at times. They will want to bed as many Sims as possible...but go nuts if any of their bed buddies hooks up with someone else, even if the Sim in question was cheating on a spouse/lover to be with ''them''! Yes, I understand people are hypocrites in real life, but there needs to be some sort of Open Relationship or Friends with Benefits option.

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* The Romance aspiration in the Sims 2 can be really unrealistic at times. They will want to bed as many Sims as possible...but go nuts if any of their bed buddies hooks up with someone else, even if the Sim in question was cheating on a spouse/lover to be with ''them''! Yes, I understand people are hypocrites in real life, but there needs to be some sort of Open Relationship or Friends with Benefits option.m
* ''How the hell'' do you get a hot tub?
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* So if bubble blowers are the equivalent of bongs in the Sims world, does that make those bubble wands the children play with the Sim equivalent of joints?

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* So if bubble blowers are the equivalent of bongs in the Sims world, does that make those bubble wands the children play with the Sim equivalent of joints?joints?
* The Romance aspiration in the Sims 2 can be really unrealistic at times. They will want to bed as many Sims as possible...but go nuts if any of their bed buddies hooks up with someone else, even if the Sim in question was cheating on a spouse/lover to be with ''them''! Yes, I understand people are hypocrites in real life, but there needs to be some sort of Open Relationship or Friends with Benefits option.

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